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biker-cat-links-624x425Welcome to all our new exiles. For your joy and easy access, here’s a spanking-new Open Thread for discussing the morning’s news. For all those folks just arrived: We’re light on comment moderation, dissenting opinions are welcome, We Says Bad Words, sometimes. The only real rule is: Don’t an ass to your fellow commenters. If you disagree, say so and move on. On the other hand, if something is egregiously stupid or false (we’re likely to get some DNC trolls in here sooner or later), report it and we’ll give it the once-over.

If you want to post things, maybe even to the front page, sign up here, and let me know.

Otherwise, have fun!

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  • QueenSpiffy

    First πŸ™‚

  • And speaking of cats: My tom, Petey, who’s 16 pounds of pure muscle, and has beat-down the biggest cats on the block is shit-scared of “squirt,” the neighbor’s tiny, 3 pound girl cat!

    • QueenSpiffy

      Female cats tend to bully male cats.

      • RTIII

        The males know what they need to do to get a little pussy! :-O

        • QueenSpiffy

          :)) You are so bad.

      • It’s just hilarious though, to watch the panic in Pete’s face, when Squirt starts to harass him. He runs for the door to come inside from the porch.

        • The monster, hizzelf:

          • QueenSpiffy

            Awe fluffy πŸ™‚

          • MsPythia

            Beautiful cat!

        • QueenSpiffy

          The cat is really named Squirt?

  • MsPythia

    Second!

    • I’ve set you up so you can add diaries now. You should also see a couple new entries on the right-hand “Members” side-bar!

      • MsPythia

        I’ll look…

        • Mostly just a link to a “staff” forum, where you can ask questions, seek advice, etc. without having to make it public in DISQUS threads. πŸ™‚

          • MsPythia

            Cool — I don’t really know how to add diaries, but it’s an interesting idea. I wouldn’t mind writing some stuff…

          • Well, there’s some turtorials in the “Home β€Ί Forums β€Ί Questions and Help β€Ί Creating Your Posts” topic in the “staff” forums, but if you’re familiar with any of the “rich” text-editors on the web, then you can just click on the “user dashboard” link, then choose “posts->add new” from the left-hand menu! Then just type away. if you want any further help, with topics, images, etc, just let me know in the “staff” forums. πŸ˜€

          • MsPythia

            Okay — I just copied and pasted that and sent it to myself as an email — this way when I want to write a diary, I won’t have to pester you for that info. πŸ˜‰

          • No worries. Remember, it doesn’t have to be some full-blown New York Times expose, just a link and your thoughts. Lord knows most of my own posts are going to have trouble topping a paragraph. LOL.

          • MsPythia

            πŸ˜€ Don’t worry — I don’t feel pressure to become a NYT reporter. Besides the NYT has become a joke!

  • RTIII

    fifth! πŸ™‚

    • MsPythia

      πŸ˜€ A fifth of what? You drinking this early?

      • RTIII

        I’ll save it for later – at this hour I’m drinking wonderful New Orleanian Coffee!

        • MsPythia

          I need a new cup of tea. I let mine get cold. I love good coffee but don’t drink it much because it can mess with my stomach.

          • RTIII

            You need to be drinking MY kind of coffee – doesn’t have the acid that causes that stomach queasiness. I’ll try and remember to bring some when we get together for a cooking-fest! πŸ˜€

          • MsPythia

            Sounds good! I do buy good coffee though. Usually Peets or there’s this other little place right around the corner from me that sells good small batch roasted coffee that I get sometimes. It’s just that as I get older, even the good stuff can mess me up for some reason.

          • RTIII

            That some reason is the acid.

            Normal coffee is mildly acidic, some stronger than others. This is the fundamental reason that coffee goes stale in the pot and why a great pot in the AM is crappy in the afternoon… My coffee has a neutral PH and doesn’t go stale and doesn’t upset stomachs! πŸ™‚

          • RTIII

            That works! πŸ™‚

  • 17

    ..

    • MsPythia

      Good morning! It’s a new day, and I feel good! πŸ˜€

  • cathyx

    Thank you Unka for having a safe place for us.

    • MsPythia

      Yes. So appreciated. It’s messed up to be lied to.

      • cathyx

        And to be abused by. Can’t wait ’til Edwin wakes up.

        • MsPythia

          I do hope he comes here!

          • 17

            He was here firsdt thing this morning before he went to bed. He’ll be here.

          • MsPythia

            So glad to know that. I’m glad that Noti is here too! I hope that Nancy can invite Blue (Nevin) here as well, and anyone else from TBR that wants to come over here!

          • 17

            With exceptions, of course.

          • MsPythia

            πŸ˜‰

          • Nancy

            hey 17!

          • 17

            Hey back!

          • cathyx

            Don’t you dare post a link at TBR though, lol. That’s against the TOS. There shall be no competition to the banned room.

          • Competing ideas and places for them should always be welcome. Of course here, we just welcome them into the fold as diarists. πŸ˜€

          • cathyx

            Good idea, and MsP will be a great addition.

          • RTIII

            Thanks…

            …I’m kinda knew to WordPress, but signed up at your suggestion… How can I initiate articles? … “diaries!” ?

          • Just go to your “user dashboard” and on the left there’s a “post” menu item, just select “add new” and edit away. When you’re done typing, just select an appropriate Category (and maybe upload a featured image) and click “submit for review”. I’ll approve everything right away, assuming there’s no glaring problems.

            Here’s a Getting Started article, for the WordPress editor!

          • RTIII

            I think maybe something’s wrong: I was allowed to create a draft, but I don’t see how to post it… Hmmm… Will take another look.

            And read that wp beginner page you sent me to! πŸ™‚

          • It may be because I’ve got everyone set, by default, to let me review all posts first. After one or two posts, when new posters have the hang of it, I’ll just let you guys publish your own posts. Just have to depend on folks not auto-promoting things.

            “Promoting” to the front page, under my modified WP theme means selecting the “promoted” category. Only posts with that category appear on the front page. Otherwise diaries are accessed from a soon-to-be-finished “authors page. Right now, though, anyone who writes a post is likely to see it on the front page, but I’m planning for a glorious future that may never come to pass, one where we have dozens of diarists competing for front-page attention. LOL.

          • RTIII

            Great, TY… I presume I can edit / add stuff at any time?

            I want to put something up now, then add to it later.

          • Yeah, whenever you’re ready for it to be “published” just submit it and it will show up for me and I’ll approve it to the front page. You can always go back and update it later. (just be sure to mark the updates!)

          • RTIII

            “Mark the updates?”

            You mean like:

            “New: What do we think about Jill’s VP choice?”

            I tend to hate that kind of thing! πŸ™‚

          • Well, if it’s on a different topic, just make a new post! There’s no limit to the number of posts you can make.

          • RTIII

            I was more thinking of adding lists and / or images and links.

          • RTIII

            Just submitted my first one! πŸ™‚

          • RTIII

            OH, I think I got it now! πŸ™‚

          • 17

            It was an inside joke, Unka. πŸ˜‰

          • 17

            LMAO

          • Nancy

            done πŸ˜‰

          • RTIII

            I guarantee he’ll find this place – only a question of when exactly, and it won’t be long because I know he’ll ask.

          • 17

            He already knows.

          • RTIII

            Saw that.

    • You’re most welcome! Thanks for coming by!

  • Nancy

    morning!
    and once again the refugees have a place to post…jeeze, I feel like a person that moves around constantly seeking their home!
    thanks for the welcome Unka!

    • cathyx

      No more dividing us up like was happening at TBR. We can all comment together here now. Yay.

      • MsPythia

        Yes, this makes me really happy — and I’d love to chat with others who were exiled. I miss talking to MVT a lot, and I’d noticed he never came to TBR after a while.

        • cathyx

          He didn’t like how others were treated.

          • MsPythia

            I didn’t either. I had to hold my tongue a lot. What they did to Edwin is what made me realize that I just couldn’t do that any longer.

      • Nancy

        what a mess…
        this was a link that was just given to me.
        “Authoritarianism is a very interesting phenomenon. Its adherents don’t necessarily want to “tell you what to do” – as long as, if they disagree with you, someone else in power will tell you what to do.”
        hence the fake moderation.
        that really is the last straw for me…
        this is from Disqus info page re moderation:
        “As Disqus doesn’t moderate user-created channels, nor do we know the ins-and-outs of each community, only the moderators of a channel can provide reasons for moderation actions within that community.”

        • cathyx

          Ha, yes, that’s what i’ve been saying, disqus doesn’t want to be in the business of moderating thousands of sites that use their service.

          • Nancy

            this is information that is readily available for anyone to check. why would you lie about something so easily able to out you as lying?

  • 17

    Large Amounts of US-Made Weapons Sent to Terrorists in Eastern Aleppo through Turkey

    VT readers will fail to be in the slightest little bit surprised at this revelation as we have been reporting on how Turkey and the US have been the major components of the arms pipeline supporting ISIS since day one.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/08/09/large-amounts-of-us-made-weapons-sent-to-terrorists-in-eastern-aleppo-through-turkey/

  • MsPythia

    Wow — I just read that there’s been a Delta Airline meltdown. It started in Atlanta that started out as a single failed switchgear and then snowballed into hundreds of cancelled and delayed flights for the airline. I know that Noti is flying today, so I’m hoping it’s not on Delta!

    • Nancy

      indeed-what a mess this will be for anyone travelling!

      • MsPythia

        Probably spill over to other airlines too… Jeeze, and he’s been having a rough time too what with his visit not being for a happy reason.

        • Nancy

          I know. he’s such a great guy…I hope he’s missing the mess and will be joining us soon!
          I love our guys!

          • MsPythia

            I love that guy too! We rock. πŸ™‚

          • Nancy

            so many good ones.

    • RTIII

      It actually started yesterday morning. I was listening about it on the radio yesterday afternoon and it had already been underway for some 7 hours or so.

      • MsPythia

        Damn. I hadn’t heard about that.

  • Nancy

    …and just as we expected: the Russians are everywhere. how low can the DNC go?
    apparently there is no bottom-

    • QueenSpiffy

      Lol oh so now the woman that they laughed at, is secretly a Russian Agent. Because Russians really care about a third party candidate?

      • Nancy

        their desperation is hitting a new low.
        of course they care about Jill Stein πŸ˜‰

        • QueenSpiffy

          πŸ˜‰ Remember if they chant anti vax long enough, they think she’ll go away.

          • Nancy

            they are in for a huge surprise…they are feeling threatened or they would be ignoring her.
            I love it!

          • QueenSpiffy

            First they ignore you.

            Then they laugh at you.

            Then they fight you.

            Then you win.

            Gandhi said that (spelling?)

          • Nancy

            he did…

          • QueenSpiffy

            yup

          • MsPythia

            And that’s a bunch of BS too.

          • QueenSpiffy

            yup

    • cathyx

      Hmm, where have we seen blaming an innocent third party for the problems someone is having recently?

    • MsPythia

      Did you read that Intercept article about how they’re redbaiting everyone, when it’s really Clinton who has the disturbing Russian connections?

      • Nancy

        typical-projection and deflection. jesus…so tired of this passive aggressive bullshit.

        • MsPythia

          The sad thing is that it probably works on a lot of very gullible people because they listen to mainstream media only.

          • Nancy

            that’s what they depend on…I need to remember that not everyone is like us!

          • MsPythia

            They do depend on that, but I also think that people are waking up, and realizing that they’re being lied to. It will just take time I guess…

          • Nancy

            I love liars-they are easily caught because they think people are stupid and will just believe them…
            big mistake thinking everyone is gullible!

      • Saw that. And, yeah, the Redbaiting is just about as low as you can go and, imho, a very dangerous path to go down.

        • cathyx

          Yes, I agree. Russia isn’t a weak country like all the rest that the US picks on.

          • And Putin has a big ego to defend.

          • Nancy

            they are really pushing for a blow up-too bad what the rest of the world thinks or wants.
            American arrogance at it’s finest…they will stop at nothing to get “crookedHillary” into the oval…grrrr

        • MsPythia

          As Greenwald pointed out it’s so RIGHTWING a tactic. That’s because Shillz and Billz are really rightwingers.

        • RTIII

          My new “diary” is ready! πŸ™‚

          • QueenSpiffy

            Dear Diary,

            Today I fixed an engine. It is shiny. My cat caught a mouse and thought he’d send it to Jill Stein’s campaign as a donation. Tonight, am going out for cocktails and continuing my plots for world domination.

            Sincerely, RTIII.

          • MsPythia

            Hahaha! I love RT!

          • 17

            LMAO. You forgot the part about getting screwed out of payment!

          • Nancy

            or shipping gone awry!

          • 17

            yup πŸ˜‰

          • QueenSpiffy

            That’s not till Friday.

          • QueenSpiffy

            you might want to edit that post. sorry wasn’t thinking.

          • RTIII

            That gets you a downvote.

          • QueenSpiffy

            πŸ™ I fixed it. Sorry.

          • And you’re published! (I added a featured image.)

          • RTIII

            YAY! Thanks!

            It’s a modest beginning, but I think what needed to be said.

          • “Every journey begins with a single step!” – Some Wizard guy, Not the Potter fellow, I think.

          • 17

            Neil Armstrong. πŸ˜‰

  • The_Fixer

    Hi everybody. After sending an E-Mail to 17, he was gracious enough to invite me here. Thanks to him and of course, Unkawillbur for conjuring up this site.

    I am very pleased to see the people with whom I have been trading comments here as well. I watched the whole thing go down last night in real time, but kept my mouth shut. I think we here can all figure out why that can be a good course of action. I am doubly sure of that after doing a lot of reading this morning.

    It’s just a giant shame. It was a great concept, but clearly there are issues there that I would rather not deal with. I’m here for the good time, and it was looking like that is going to be impossible at the other place.

    I am short of time right now, but look forward to spending some quality time here tonight. Thanks again, folks!

    • MsPythia

      So glad you’re here Fixer! Yeah, I think we all got tired of holding our tongues. I had to back Edwin up last night because I just couldn’t hold it back any longer.

      • The_Fixer

        Well, my first clue that something was amiss was not after she booted 17 – I was foolish enough to believe her – but after she went off on Cathyx. then a few other people got her attention. I stayed away a lot of times because I got tired of walking on eggshells. No way to “enjoy” one’s self.

        • MsPythia

          Yeah. I first had a problem when the attack came on Unka just because he wanted to start this blog, and that was considered a terrible thing to tell others about. I didn’t like feeling like I wasn’t ‘allowed’ to post anywhere else, and I hated how people I like enormously were being treated. We’re well out of it. All of us have already been put through the wringer during this insane primary!

          • The_Fixer

            That was another red flag. I remember that. Unkawillbur got raked over the coals for something quite innocuous.

            If you followed the meltdown last night, there was a thread about loyalty and how she built a community. Good grief, she yanked Edwin’s chain about that. But there is apparently something she does not realize: She did not make the community. She make a place that allowed the community to grow. You can’t make a community, it happens because there are people with common interests and viewpoints who come together.

            There’s a whole lot of problems in that nest…

          • cathyx

            Great point.

          • The_Fixer

            Thanks, Cathy. I nhever did get a chance to get acquainted with you, I had seen you around on some site (forget which) Before getting a chance to get acquainted, you got chased away. Good to see you’ve found company again πŸ™‚

          • MsPythia

            Some of us are exiles from Raw Story and Alternet, and a lot of you are exiles from C&L — I’m banned at all three!

          • Nancy

            you are a very naughty girl Ms.
            oh wait, so am I!
            πŸ˜‰

          • MsPythia

            Hahaha! We’re really not that horrible! I mean, lots of truly abusive dimbulbs are allowed to post to their hearts content just because they’re voting Shillz. But none of the people who were banned ever went out of our way to attack others. It’s just because we didn’t take kindly to eating Shillbot shit every day and because we’re progressives they felt they needed to silence our voices.

          • Nancy

            exactly:

          • MsPythia

            EXACTLY.

          • Nancy

            I came out of the womb like this!

          • MsPythia

            Yeah — hellraisers! πŸ˜€

          • The_Fixer

            I did not get banned anywhere – but could not hang at a place (C&L) where they did that to some people who had made great comments and did not do anything egregious, in my mind.

            I also used to frequent Americablog, but found that the site owner was in the tank for Hillary and being rather disingenuous in his interpretation of news items, etc. I respect his work on behalf of my community, the gay community, but the tenor of the site and the way he crafted his stories drove me away. Too bad, there are some decent people there.

            But that’s all in the past. Time to have some fun around the people who have been so nice to me and to meet some other like-minded souls.

          • cathyx

            Thank you fixer, same here. I would lurk later and read your comments there. Nice that we can share space again.

          • Nancy

            the community left. she didn’t make us or break us.
            we cannot be owned and controlled. so silly to even attempt that.

          • MsPythia

            Yes to all of the above. That’s it in a nutshell.

    • Nancy

      wonderful to see you!

      • The_Fixer

        Right back atcha, Nancy!

        • Nancy

          happy again seeing people here-we had a great thing going…it was because of the posters and the available outlet in which to post! lovely to find a new place!

          • 17

            I see what’s happening right now, Nancy. Don’t back down. He’s conning you.

            Edited to add: Not the Fixer. I mean the other.

          • Nancy

            lol, he thinks he is…walking away is the win. I have clients that are just like that-they love to use words and think they can suck anyone into their web. not me!

    • QueenSpiffy

      Fixer πŸ˜€

      • The_Fixer

        Oh, My Queen, how I have missed you πŸ™‚ <3

        • QueenSpiffy

          <3

          • The_Fixer

            I trust our pig friend will be here when he is done with his travels? I hope so. I think what drove him away was seeing Edwin’s screen caps of the grilling he got.

          • QueenSpiffy

            Yes πŸ™‚

          • The_Fixer

            Ah, very cool!

          • QueenSpiffy

            yup

    • RTIII

      Good comment, welcome.

      Please email who you can and tell them about this place…

      • The_Fixer

        Thanks. I will discreetly get the word out when I can.

    • 17

      Glad you made it. You are welcome.

  • RTIII
  • dayanmao

    Finally. I made it back. I had to reload my old system and lost everything a few weeks ago. Whew. I’m glad to say hello again.

    • QueenSpiffy

      Hey, Day.

      • dayanmao

        Hi QueenSpiffy, it’s good to be back.

    • Nancy

      hello!
      glad to see you again!

      • dayanmao

        Hi Nancy. Good to see you.

        • Nancy

          been a long time!
          πŸ˜‰

    • cathyx

      Hi. Long time no see. Good to see you again!

      • dayanmao

        Hi cathyx. I trust you’re well. It’s getting harder and harder to find places that haven’t gone off the deep end.

        • cathyx

          Tell me about it.

    • MsPythia

      Hi Day! So good to see you again!

      • dayanmao

        Hi MsPythia. What a trip on TBR. I stopped posting months ago but watched it all unfold.

        Amazing. Fortunately, this place has always been welcoming.

        • MsPythia

          I noticed when you stopped showing up there. And then MVT, and others. Cathy I knew had been banned earlier for no discernible reason. The latest person I noticed wasn’t coming around was Smokey. I hope someone can tell him to come over here!

          • dayanmao

            I will the next time I see him. He posts once in a while on Alternet. Speaking of which, what an absolute dump it’s become. It’s one half step behind RS.

          • MsPythia

            That’s because Roxanne and her minion mods rules the roost at both.

  • MsPythia

    Wow — just saw a link to this on twitter:

    WikiLeaks Offers $20K Reward for Information in Murder of DNC Staffer

    http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/WikiLeaks-Offers-20K-Reward-for-Information-in-Murder-of-DNC-Staffer-Seth-Rich-389622801.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_DCBrand

    • Nancy

      the Russians did it.
      pay up!

      • MsPythia

        LOL! Spilled my tea.

        • Nancy

          *passes cloth*

  • 17

    If anyone’s interested…Spiffy’s over at the dump getting the third degree from the Ruling Duo about why the place imploded last night. And they’re feeding her as much bullshit as they think they can get away with.

    • dayanmao

      Now it’s more like the burned room.

      • Nancy

        lol.

    • Nancy

      they are accepting no responsibility for what happened. it’s mind blowing…it’s crazy…he’s trying to get her to agree with him and make this whole thing about moderation-their right to moderate, while totally ignoring that the bgger issue here is that none of us liked how edwin was treated by them in their chat room.

      • 17

        None of us liked being followed to other sites and reprimanded for what or where we posted that wasn’t under her control. THAT’s what we didn’t like.

        • Nancy

          there were many things that never needed to happen 17. too bad they did.

        • RTIII

          that too

    • MsPythia

      I can’t look.

      • Nancy

        it is stomach churning.

        • MsPythia

          It’s very upsetting. I honestly don’t see the need for this drama!

          • Nancy

            unbelievable what has happened and what is still being said there.

          • MsPythia

            Sigh. I guess I’ll have to go look at some point. But I’m in a good mood at the moment, so I’ll save that for tomorrow.

          • Nancy

            wise. I am moving toward closing the tab and never looking back. there is only blame and justification for their actions.
            not very mature.

          • MsPythia

            I don’t hate either of them. But I also don’t understand what the hell they think they’re doing. There was only about 20 people who posted there! And they’re driving everyone away over nothing — it just seems like some folks HAVE to look for a nemesis around every corner. For pity’s sake, it’s just not right.

          • RTIII

            The problem there was that one of them appears to be bipolar or something like that, and both have strong authoritarian streaks. And both are too thin-skinned to be blog operators.

          • MsPythia

            And now many of you are telling me they weren’t being honest with people either. That’s not how people treat friends.

          • RTIII

            Agreed. I think it’s pretty clear that there was lying to the whole group regarding the moderator. . . First they said she was there “from day one” (I think the expression was), then later it becomes no, the moderator can’t come from the community to moderate well. Also, the moderator’s account creation date and comment history didn’t bear out the “day one” timeline.

            Further, the whole moderation thing was just a crock. The only people who NEEDED moderation were Ricki and the new moderator!

            When Neb asks Spiffy about what happens if we’re gone for a few days and someone says smack, you know, frankly, the place would run itself BETTER without any moderation!

          • MsPythia

            You think like me — anarchists at heart. What did they think was going happen without moderation? That it would turn into Animal Farm or something? We all got along just fine until they started pushing people around — and that’s why we left. We were banned because we’re progressives, so there was no need for constant moderation.

          • RTIII

            Here’s the lie repeated again:

            “Nope, Garza was here when we created the blog.”

            Um, simple account creation time puts that one to flames.

          • MsPythia

            Yeah, telling transparent lies to people who are supposed to be your friends is not an endearing quality.

          • 17

            And treating those friends like they’re too stupid to know they’re being lied to.

          • MsPythia

            That too.

          • Nancy

            they said they had no control over Edwin and that he threatened to leave if they told him to stop:

            “You’re not a victim, Edwin. So please don’t play that fiddle. You are responsible and accountable for your actions, just as Neb and I are. It has been virtually impossible for us to address your attack comments, when you threatened that if you were told to stop posting them that you were out of here.”

            and then say this:
            “What this is about is an individual believing he had the right to treat OUR blog as a vehicle for perpetuating his personal vendettas.
            Basically, having been told on several occasions to stop, they chose to be an asshole and when pressed, we were eventually assholes right back. The time for kid gloves was long gone and we didn’t appreciate the disrespect shown to either of us by continually ignoring our requests.”

            jesus-which is it?
            so many lies and they are up for all to see.

          • MsPythia

            I’d like to know what’s the big fucking problem with our discussing or even attacking the people that banned us for no valid reason? The reason that Edwin has been that angry about what happened is obviously because he was lied about, and mentally abused. So fuck these people. Why would Ricki and Neb feel they needed to protect Karoli, or ShellyP, or Roxanne and her minions? It doesn’t make any sense.

          • Nancy

            no, it doesn’t. I am not sure how this couldn’t be fixed with a simple-please don’t vent here anymore.
            we were all scarred by what happened. this was why we were all there. it was the place to vent and rant about the injustices that were going on. that’s why there was that community.

          • MsPythia

            I totally understand why Edwin was that upset. It was because he’d been a part of that community for a very long time — and he had also given the blog a big bunch of money when they were starting out. He felt an emotional investment in that place. The same was true for me with Raw Story. My husband and I regularly gave them money, but when Roxanne decided she wanted to silence me and people I looked forward to reading comments from everyday, she didn’t think twice about eliminating our voices. The fact is, if it wasn’t for a regular readership who generously gave them money in the beginning, their blog would have been nothing.

          • Nancy

            exactly-what has happened to so many of you is really beyond what some of us have experienced. it is devastating when you have worked to ensure their success and been with them through the lean times.

          • MsPythia

            From what I’ve gathered, Edwin was very generous about donating — way more than I was. And he had been posting there from the beginning.

          • 17

            correct.

          • Nancy

            yes…it was a real gut punch for him.

          • RTIII

            Unless you know the people personally, why would you donate money to an internet blog place?

          • MsPythia

            Because they asked people to donate to keep it going — and people did that, including me. Back at the start, Raw wasn’t just a news aggregator, they had really good reporters who were investigating things and writing stories there in the beginning. It went downhill after a few years, but I stayed around because of the community of people. That initial seed money is how Roxanne was able to keep that place going long enough to attract advertisers who wanted to pay her.

          • 17

            They are lying. It isn’t about Karoli, or Roxanne, or any of that shit. It’s about control.
            Edwin went to Plum Street Chili and saw what Rickin did to Plum Dumpling in the Book Room on July 3rd. Then he saw my link to the Woodshed, and saw what I had posted in there about her stalking my wife. Then he knew she was all about stalking and controlling people, and it all came together for him. Once Ricki saw his posts at Plum’s, she knew she had to discredit him and make him out as a liar. THAT’s why she started riding him. Then when Nebdem sent that threatening letter to Plum, and Plum told them to go fuck themselves, they panicked, because suddenly EVERYONE was finding out what Ricki is all about.

          • MsPythia

            So much drama. It’s so unnecessary. Doesn’t the world have enough in it that sucks already?

          • 17

            When I first met Ricki at C&L, someone sent me an anonymous email telling me to run like hell as fast and as far away from her as I could. I will heed any warnings like that in the future.

          • dayanmao

            That group, including Susie M. are the worst of the worst, let’s not forget John A.

          • RTIII

            Hmmm….

            …I just went to double check my account creation data to confirm it was correct. It turns out that there has definitely been some funny business going on!

            Disqus claims that that account is NOT private and has exactly ONE comment that’s 7 years old and does not provide account creation data for it… …So, WTF happened to the comment to ME?!

            Here’s the content of that comment:

            “This subject is closed — move on. Tired of your disruptive actions on this blog. Keep it up and your days will be numbered.”

            OK, so I have no idea about that. But it still doesn’t make sense that this Garza was supposed to be there “when we created the blog” yet nobody had ever seen their posts and there’s no way to know who is lurking on a web site! How would they even know Garza was there at any time, much less from the beginning?

            Still smells like a lie to me, but I can’t prove it.

          • 17

            Now Neb’s trying to say Garza was a Tumblr Mod. He’s so full of shit. Keep digging, Cleanup Man.

          • dayanmao

            It’s a sock puppet.

          • 17

            Yes. It’s Ricki.

          • 17

            Bipolar? I think that head’s got 6 or 8 sides to it.

          • Nancy

            there is no hate in me either.
            it is very sad.

          • dayanmao

            It’s not fun watching a meltdown, but I’d pay good money to watch Hillary melt down in a debate.

          • MsPythia

            Me too! That would be so sweet! πŸ™‚

          • cathyx

            That’s the only thing that would be better viewing than this.

    • dayanmao

      They’re not smart enough to pull a mea culpa, say it won’t happen again, and move on. This is where people really mess up. It’s always easier to admit a mistake and move on.

      • Nancy

        yup. they are their own worst enemy and responsible for this demise.

        • 17

          And is there anyone who has a doubt about who created that dump? I swear she has to hammer that home in every comment.

          • dayanmao

            Why, who was it? LOL!

          • Nancy

            the irony is yes, you created the forum…we created the community. there will always be a forum-but not the community. we are the community.
            that alone speaks volumes.

          • 17

            Now she’s on a crucifiction kick. The poor little victim. How very unfortunate for her.

          • Nancy

            I see that. sickening.
            total victim stance.
            textbook.

      • Yeah, that’s my rule: If I fuck up, I just try to admit it, apologize and hope to move on from it.

        • Nancy

          good to know-that takes maturity. that’s what grown ups do.

          • Well, I try, ROFL.

          • Nancy

            that’s important in itself πŸ˜‰

        • MsPythia

          That’s how people who are nice, and who have normal sized egos behave. Everybody in the world fucks up, or says something tactless and hurtful without intending to at some point or another. All we can do is not be assholes, and learn how and when to apologize.

  • Nancy

    oh time for a laugh!!!!
    so funny:https://www.facebook.com/viralthread/videos/1028531927288649/
    it’s a FB video…

    • MsPythia

      Hahaha! Hilarious!

      • Nancy

        still laughing…

    • cathyx

      Hey spiffy, here’s your olympics you haven’t been watching. See what you miss?

      • Nancy

        ha! if only it could have this guy as the commentator-so many people would watch!

    • Hate the Olympics, love this!

      • Nancy

        it’s pretty real!

      • cathyx

        Unka, american olympic coverage just needs this guy to do the play by play. Then everyone would watch it.

        • MsPythia

          Yes! That would make me watch sporting events!

  • Annaleigh

    Hi everyone! Thank you to Unka for starting this blog, and thank you to 17 for inviting me! It’s good to have a place to go after what happened last night.

    • QueenSpiffy

      Anna πŸ™‚

      • Annaleigh

        Spiffy! <3

        • QueenSpiffy

          <3 me πŸ™‚

    • 17

      You are welcome here. I’m glad you made it πŸ˜‰

      • dayanmao

        I’m only half way through the 8th (on your link), what a trip. I’ve never had it happen to me, but someone sounds like,

        https://quasherthoughts.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/fatal-attraction1.jpg

        OMG!

        • 17

          What especially amazed me was how she could hold a completely rational conversation at one site while being a stark-raving mad-woman on another at the exact same time! And then turn either one off and on like a light switch.

          • RTIII

            My mom was like that. πŸ™

    • RTIII

      YAY!

      Please email those who you know or otherwise help us get the word out!

      • Annaleigh

        I shall do what I can. πŸ™‚

        • 17

          I have a particular pair of email addy’s you can avoid if you need them.

    • MsPythia

      Annaleigh! Glad you’re here! Yay.

      • Annaleigh

        Me too, thanks! πŸ™‚

        • MsPythia

          <3

    • Nancy

      nice to see you!

    • Nevin

      Does anyone know how to get a hold of Sohanna?

      • dayanmao

        Not me.

  • 17

    Ecuador warned to end Assange asylum by ex-foreign minister after DNC leak

    Ecuador is being urged to end its asylum of Wikileaks co-founder Julian Assange by one of its most prominent diplomats, following the recent leak of Democratic National Committee (DNC) emails.

    https://www.rt.com/news/355220-ecuador-warned-wikileaks-assange/

    • Annaleigh

      This reminds me…4 days without a tweet from Edward Snowden. I really hope he throws people at least a retweet or something soon because people are worried and Glenn Greenwald and Barton Gellman saying he’s ok isn’t quite enough. πŸ™

      • 17

        I saw your comment about that “Dead-Man Switch”. Time will tell.

        • Annaleigh

          Yep.

      • Nancy

        that is so frightening to think that they are that vulnerable.

    • RTIII

      I hope Ecuador has the balls to tell them to go pound sand.

      • 17

        They’ve been pretty good about it so far.

    • Nancy

      they would love to end him. god, there are so many people that are worried over what he has.

      • dayanmao

        The sooner he puts it out the better.

        • Nancy

          yup!

      • 17

        But curiously, Israel doesn’t seem to care.

        • Nancy

          lol, because he has nothing on them? or they have “the Russians” excuse going on as well…

          • dayanmao

            Apparently they own Hillary and know the fix is in already.

          • MsPythia

            I think so too. The 1% wants Hillary. It’s that simple.

          • RTIII

            They know she can be bought.

            Everyone should watch this video:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM

          • MsPythia

            Watched that already — but I’m glad you’re sharing that link! Everybody should see it.

          • Nancy

            yes, of course. she is getting in-come hell, death or high water.

          • Nevin

            Hi dayanmao.

          • dayanmao

            Hey there Nevin, I’m having a blast reading 17’s chatzy account. It’s hilarious.

          • MsPythia

            I haven’t done that. Should I?

          • dayanmao

            I’m not sure. It’s screen shots of dialogue between someone at TBR and himself. It’s nutty to say the least.

          • MsPythia

            I’m trying not to think the worst of both Ricki and Neb, and I don’t really want to read it if it’s just going to make me angry or upset. I just don’t want to be at their mercy if they’re going to keep doing what they’ve been doing.

          • RTIII

            I say there’s pretty much zero chance Ricki will ever change, and of the two of them, she’s not the stable, sensible one… So, so long as they’re a pair, why bother giving them another chance? It’s not like they provide any interesting content or anything!

          • MsPythia

            I know. I just try to avoid feeling angry about petty shit like this if I don’t have to because it wears down my batteries fast. I try to save my anger to direct it at the system so I feel I’ll have the energy to fight it.

          • RTIII

            I say we should all just forget about it and move on…

          • MsPythia

            Yes — and invite our friends from there over here if we can.

          • 17

            My wife disagrees.

          • dayanmao

            I’d suggest not reading it then.

          • MsPythia

            LOL — oh jeeze.

          • 17

            That’s myself and Ricki.

          • 17

            Absolutely you should. I can’t believe you haven’t already. It’s very important to me that you do. Please. Please do.
            http://us20.chatzy.com/24782158920657

          • MsPythia

            Okay — I’ll save the link to read later. πŸ™‚

          • 17

            You can download the pages from Dropbox and read them off-line at your leasure.

          • MsPythia

            Blue! Yay!!! πŸ˜€ I’m so happy you’re here!

          • Nevin

            Hi MsPythia. Good to see you. Does anyone know how to get a hold of Shohanna?

          • MsPythia

            Sorry, I don’t have her email, and I don’t think she’s ever been inside Spiffy’s chatroom. Maybe someone else has it? I love Shohanna — she needs to be here.

          • Nevin

            I think she saw what happened last night.

          • MsPythia

            I was only able to get the link to here because of Spiffy’s chat room. Edwin and Noti and Nancy, Cathy, Linda and I were all talking there last night after the bomb dropped. I was so glad that Nancy had your email so you could come here too.

          • Nevin

            Nancy’s email was acting up last night. Didn’t get her messages until this morning. I knew there was something that happened the other night, but didn’t know what it was. Neb and I have been friends for years. I left TBR the first time because of comments being deleted. Neb asked me to come back so I did and all seemed fine. What happened last night was a complete surprise to me.

          • MsPythia

            To me too — but there were already enough things I’d seen that disturbed me there — and I’d noticed that a lot of people who were there in the beginning stopped coming around. i guess they were either banned, or asked not to come there, or just got fed up. Anyway, when I found out that they’d been grilling Edwin like that, and were threatening to ban him and also what he said about them communicating with Roxanne (Raw Story — and whether that’s true or not) I just hit my bullshit limit.
            I saw that you had too — and that’s why I’m so glad Nancy could reach you.

          • 17

            Glad ya made it, Nevin.

          • Nevin

            Hi 17.

          • 17

            Nothing on them? Really? You understand we’re talking about that tiny sliver of a country in the Middle East that leads the United States government around by the nose, right? Nothing?

          • Nancy

            not a thing.
            *eye roll*

  • RTIII

    …I just got an email from my congresswoman, Barbara Lee. She asked my opinion of what the most important thing might be for Congress to work on. Not only did her polling thing not work for me, my issue isn’t on her list!…

    SO… Yes, I called! My issue: Securing the vote.

    I had a nice chat with the guy about and to my surprise he liked what I said enough that he wants me to write up something that the Congresswoman can use to
    introduce a bill in congress about it!

    YAY! … Tomorrow AM over coffee, I’m going to write up my ideas.

  • RTIII

    From Jill Stein’s campaign a few minutes ago:

    ______

    The establishment Democrats and Republicans are doing all they can to keep Jill off the ballot in the states of Connecticut and New Hampshire – and it’s costing us an outrageous amount of money.

    Our volunteer petitioners have been working for 4 months in those states, out in the hot sun, pounding the pavement trying to get the signatures we need so Jill can be on the ballot. To make it worse, in both these states, archaic election laws require us to deliver the signatures to individual towns and counties.

    In CT, we have to hand deliver the petitions to 169 individual town clerks for validation. In NH, our volunteers will be driving throughout the state today and tomorrow to make sure the signatures get submitted and certified.

    But in spite of hour after hour of hard work, in both states we still haven’t been able to collect enough signatures to make sure Jill is on the ballot.

    So now, we’ve pulled out all the stops and hired paid petitioners as well as petitioning companies. And that’s why I’m writing you today. We need your help right now to cover the mounting costs.

    Will you donate at least $60 today and help sponsor petitioners like these for 4 full hours in Connecticut as well as New Hampshire so they can urgently gather signatures for Jill today?

    https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/video_donation_page?e=b97d4574915569f9cf75e09e393a048f&utm_source=jillstein&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ba_ct_nh_b&n=2

    ______

    I’ve already given all I can… Anybody else can help?

    • MsPythia

      I’ll kick them a few bucks.

  • RTIII

    More emails uncovering more Clinton BS: now it’s showing Clinton Foundation Donors calling in favors from the State Department:

    http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/new-emails-appear-to-show-clinton-foundation-donors-called-in-favors-to-state-department/

    Hillary’s favorite game: Pay to Play

    • MsPythia

      She should be in jail already.

      • notisaidthepig

        If only!

  • Edwin

    Hello, all. Good morning. Hurray, all (or a lot anyway) our friends are here.

    Greetings, Unka and thank you for welcoming us in.

    • MsPythia

      Edwin is in the house!!! <3

      • Edwin

        Hi, MsP.

        It looks like a lot of ifaces are here. We don’t have to wander the wilderness alone. πŸ™‚

        • MsPythia

          We’re so lucky that Unka set up his blog!

          • dayanmao

            Crooners and Linguists was set up after the fiasco at hacksandliars. It was a great, but short lived place, just too much for one person to handle.

            I like the ideas Unka has set up here.

          • MsPythia

            Me too — and we can even share diaries here. It always irked me at TBR that they wanted zero input on the writing.

          • Edwin

            I saw your comment at TBR. I see 3 people are responding. Never change, Rich.

          • dayanmao

            That’s what my wife tells me.

          • Edwin

            Where’s IP these days? Haven’t seen him anywhere.

          • dayanmao

            Working hard. I just saw him Sunday. I’d hate to have his schedule. I think he’s had enough BS from various places like C&L (banned of course), Alternet and RS (banned), then he immediately got fed up with TBR. I think it was the first time they removed comments – I think then he said “enough”.

            That was within the first week I think. It didn’t take long.

          • Edwin

            I don’t blame him. The internet scene gets worse by the day. It is the PTB fracturing us because they know we communicate truth online. They’re throwing big money into disrupting and fracturing us.

            Many of used used to be common allies and now we are at each others’ throats. I think most of the blogs are enjoying superPAC cash and promises of rewards/prizes. (I think they told KK she can be the new minister of truth if Clinton wins.) We’ll see when December rolls around how well that strategy worked

          • notisaidthepig

            I have a feeling you’re right. They want to control the Internet. All of it.

        • towerofbabel

          The locusts have landed.

    • 17

      Glad ya made it through your night.

      • Edwin

        I am made of snakes and snails and puppy dog tails, and sugar and spice, too. I am a Renaissance man. πŸ™‚

        (not to be fucked with)

        • notisaidthepig

          Like your new avatar, Edwin. WTF is it?

          • Edwin

            I just find stuff and save it. I spent a day looking at art so it is probably a detail from some work.

          • notisaidthepig

            You’re so cultured!

          • Edwin

            πŸ™‚

            world’s biggest library at your fingertips. I also love to travel by internet

          • notisaidthepig

            Yep.

          • Edwin

            I love it because the real libraries here are full of Korean books.

          • Edwin

            The transmogrification of Edwin.

          • notisaidthepig

            Big word alert!

          • Edwin

            It’s not often one gets to use big words like that and they are true and fitting.

          • towerofbabel

            That’s a young David Byrne in a pointed hat.

          • notisaidthepig

            Ha!

  • notisaidthepig

    Hi, everyone. Nice to see a new thread.

    • MsPythia

      <3 Piggie! How was your flight?

      • notisaidthepig

        Hi, MsP. The flight was uneventful. Thank you, Lord Buddha! That’s all I ask. I’m a bit tired. Happy to be home but sad to have left my mom in that nursing home. Sigh. Ah, Life.

        • MsPythia

          <3 I was worried you be stuck in a mess at the airport after I read a story today about a Delta airlines meltdown.

          • notisaidthepig

            Oh, yeah. My sister told me about that. I was flying American. Dodged a bullet there, methinks.

    • Nevin

      Hi Noti.

      • notisaidthepig

        Hi, Nevin. I’m so sorry about yesterday and not answering you. I wanted to but once I said goodbye I really didn’t want to post again. Hope you understand. Good to see you!

        • Nevin

          No problems Noti. The whole thing last night took me by surprise.

          • notisaidthepig

            It was like a wildfire. Whoosh! All gone.

          • Nevin

            I don’t see TBR surviving after last night and this morning.

          • notisaidthepig

            Sadly, me neither. Ricki and Neb were very decent to me. I have to say that. But I can’t abide the mistreatment of others and won’t be a silent party to it.

          • Nevin

            Neb and I have been friends for years. I haven’t emailed him and he hasn’t me. I will have to email him eventually.

          • notisaidthepig

            After it was all over, Neb sent me a very short but kind email. I really appreciate that. I responded in kind and I was sincere.

          • Edwin

            I’m sorry about that. Neb seems like a really decent guy. (I have screen grabs to prove it.) Unfortunately he’s tied his wagon to a crazy person.

          • Nevin

            We finally exchanged emails. The friendship ended about 15 minutes ago.

          • Edwin

            πŸ™ so sad (or maybe not from where you stand)

          • Edwin

            I don’t either. (unless it goes Hillbot)

  • dayanmao

    18 comments on the other place. Half by one poster.

    • Nancy

      lol, you went there.

      • dayanmao

        You know, I shouldn’t bad mouth so and so because she was always nice to me (really). But what took place last night was totally uncalled for.

        • Nancy

          they lied about Edwin. that’s not cool to me.
          they treated him poorly-he has the screen shots to verify it. that’s also not cool.

          • dayanmao

            When I got into it (seems like years ago now) with K at hacksandliars, Edwin was about the only one who defended me. I haven’t forgotten it.

            To see the BS last night was just mind boggling.

          • Nancy

            I was shocked…it was even worse this morning when the clean up/damage control crew arrived. the spin and deflection were plain as day. it’s all over the thread…

      • MsPythia

        Did they put up a new thread yet?

        • Nevin

          After only 712 comments on the other thread. I guess I will never be Queen now.

          • MsPythia

            You are a Queen! You always have been!

          • notisaidthepig

            Don’t despair! Who knows what the future might bring???

          • Edwin

            So sad, πŸ™

          • Nevin

            I know. I really tried hard to be Queen. πŸ˜‰

          • Edwin

            I will think of you as Queen. (honest)

        • towerofbabel

          Each comment constitutes a thread and you get a crown per post.

      • dayanmao

        I have a feeling it’ll be a while before they give out their 3000 comment crown.

        • MsPythia

          And I won’t be supplying it! πŸ˜€

          • Nancy

            or robes and treats! that was a very fun part of that site.

          • Nevin

            Now MsPythia can have a break.

          • Nancy

            good point-I do think she loved it though!

          • MsPythia

            πŸ™‚ I didn’t mind.

          • MsPythia

            We can still do it — maybe not with as much fervor…

          • Nancy

            yes, mind you they do think they own that one.

          • MsPythia

            It would more fun if random anyway.

          • RTIII

            Yes, if some random comment down-thread OR one intentionally trying were equally valid “recipients” of victory! πŸ™‚

          • RTIII

            We will do it correctly! πŸ™‚

            You did realize, yes? that if there was a non-numbered comment that was in fact the thousandth one, they’d ignore it and move on to the next one numbered whatever thousand…

            What the hell point is THAT?! Celebrating NOT the thousandth one?! Just cuckoo

          • Nancy

            I didn’t mind how it was done…

          • notisaidthepig

            I thought that was okay. And I thought it was funny how that really got under your skin. Oink!

          • 17

            Just no.

          • notisaidthepig

            We can’t bring that contest here. It’s tainted like everything else associated with them now.

          • Edwin

            Yeah. No!

          • Edwin

            I won’t be competing. Ha!!

        • Nancy

          answer Neb with that fact that you will have to wait a long time for the 1000th comment crown.

          • RTIII

            At 24 posts in 4 hours, that’ll take em 166 and 2/3 hours, or about 6.94 days to get to the 1000th comment!

            2 weeks ago it would have taken about 4 hours.

          • Nancy

            such a vast change in a very short time.

          • notisaidthepig

            24 hours ago the shit hadn’t started to fly yet. unreal.

          • Nancy

            nope…who would have thought…

          • Rich H

            Shoulda happened to C&L. I guess as long as you take DNC money they’ll keep flooding your site with CTR trolls.

          • Edwin

            Have you looked in there recently?? Moron central.

          • Rich H

            Some ahole flooded the Open Thread with about thirty or 40 anti-Trump gifs. Just one after another, after another.

            But you know, the site teams like “it’s cool”.

          • Edwin

            really sad

          • Rich H

            I know you don’t want to click it, but “I’m John A, and I approve this message”.

            http://crooksandliars.com/2016/08/open-thread-tim-kaines-theme-song-230

          • Edwin

            I go in there to look. I like to see what bullshit they’re slinging each day. Karoli outdid herself a few times recently. Shelly p was back too. C&L has never responded to my well-thought-out emails either.

        • Nancy

          there is a reply from the mod-just in case you might want to know.

    • Nevin

      What was your comment over there?

      • dayanmao

        An error. I had my links mixed up and deleted it right away.

        • Nancy

          lmao…hilarious!!! what an oops!

          • dayanmao

            Actually it was what I posted above. Making fun of someone for only having 18 comments – yikes. It was up for half a second.

          • Nancy

            I saw it…it was there!

          • dayanmao

            LOL! Whoops!

          • Nancy

            still laughing.

          • Edwin

            This?

            dayanmao

            β€’

            2 hours ago

            18 comments on TBR, half from one poster the rest from Ricki (though I didn’t exactly double check – 18 comments and all).

          • Rich H

            That’s it. I posted it, went to check my tabs, saw my error, and deleted it. It couldn’t have been up for more than 2 or three seconds tops.

            Apparently it’s caused some nastiness. I haven’t checked.

          • Edwin

            A bit. Nevin rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Edwin

            I must have gone there at the right second. I haven’t refreshed the page so I still see it.

        • Nevin

          Neb replied to you.

          • dayanmao

            Don’t care. I left months ago for various reasons – and that post was just a mistake.

          • Edwin

            You rock. Love your short power-packed comment.

          • Nevin

            Thanks Edwin.

        • cathyx

          Not before Neb asked what your point was.

          • MsPythia

            I feel bad that Oculus is sticking with them.

          • notisaidthepig

            We all make choices. I hope it works out for him.

          • MsPythia

            He’ll become the new target before long…

          • notisaidthepig

            Sigh.

          • RTIII

            Or he’ll get board.

          • MsPythia

            Yes — he’s a newshound that one though. I think he enjoys sharing stuff.

          • towerofbabel

            Live and let Live.

          • Dosido3

            He might be as confused as I am/was. Perhaps he doesn’t want to get knee deep in the hoopla. (I don’t). Like I said, I just want to discuss politics with fun people. I’m getting weary of drama and gossip. No offense to anyone. I like community. That’s why I don’t comment in the wide open spaces like HuffPost or DK etc. it’s too much.

          • notisaidthepig

            I’m with you, Dosido. Hate drama! I just like everyone and enjoy posting political stuff and commenting.

    • Dosido3

      If you mean me, Well I was trying to contribute and give back what others have given me. Kind of a be the change you want to be sort of thing. I laughed when Queen Spiffy referenced Switzerland because I had been thinking that whenever I try to be Switzerland, I end up like Belgium. :/

      • dayanmao

        No, it wasn’t you.

        • Dosido3

          Ok. πŸ™‚

      • Edwin

        You did nothing wrong, and we like you. πŸ™‚

        • Dosido3

          Awwww. *blushes* thanks Edwin! πŸ™‚

  • MsPythia

    Does anyone have Sliverwitch’s email — I was so glad to speak to her again in TBR. I wonder if Spiffy has it…

    • Nancy

      ;-(
      not me…

      • MsPythia

        Me either. πŸ™

    • Nevin

      I could have sworn I recently saw her, within the last week or two, post at Alternet.

      • MsPythia

        I’m banned everywhere, so I can’t contact her.

        • Nevin

          I can still post at Alternet. I don’t think she post there often.

          • MsPythia

            If you can find an older post it might be better so you can invite her.

          • Nevin

            I’ve only see her post maybe 3 times at most. I wouldn’t know where to even start looking.

          • MsPythia

            Yeah — it’s hard when people have their settings set to private.

      • RTIII

        I definitely saw her post recently – but also can’t recall where… Most likely either Truth Dig or Mediaite.

        • Nevin

          I don’t go to those places so for me it would have been Alternet.

    • cathyx

      She said she’s not going to vote for Jill because she doesn’t like stuff that baraka said.

      • MsPythia

        Bummer.

        • cathyx

          And the quotes she linked to didn’t seem that bad to me.

          • MsPythia

            What did he say that bothered her? Do you remember?

          • cathyx

            I’ll see if i can find it

          • MsPythia

            Okay.

          • cathyx

            Actually, she has a comment on TBR right now about another comment he made.

          • MsPythia

            I really like and respect that guy.

          • towerofbabel

            DNC talking points. Thom Hartmann was spinning that stuff, deliberately missing the point so he could shill for hill.

          • Edwin

            That quote rocks. I am impressed.

          • towerofbabel

            He dared to criticize Beyonce’s performance for it’s superficiality.

          • Edwin

            Ha ha. I know very very little about her except she is a big pop star. From the coverage I see of her on the internet she is most definitely a corporate commodity.

      • notisaidthepig

        I’m sorry to hear that. Baraka offended a few with his statements. I’m focusing on Stein. No purity tests for me. There’s no perfect candidate after all.

        • towerofbabel

          What I read, and I haven’t seen everything, was true. Painfully true. Correct me if I missed something.

          • notisaidthepig

            No, I had no problem with what he said myself, especially about Beyonce. Edwin said something about that video of Cornel West talking to Chris Hedges about the black elite. Let me see if I can find it….Here it is! I haven’t seen it myself but plan to soon…

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcJqjgB4tyQ

          • Edwin

            This video rocks.

          • towerofbabel

            I loved that interview. The phony baloney activism of celebs should be criticized.

          • Edwin

            Hear hear!!!

      • towerofbabel

        She’s drinking the David Brock Kool-Aid.

        • cathyx

          But she won’t answer who she will vote for instead. It must be hillary.

  • Edwin

    For any of you who read R’s damage control and lies at TBR last night-this morning (I live in Asia) I have the screenshots to prove it’s all lies. I’m not sure unka wants me to post that stuff here, but I can.

    I took screenshots of a good deal of our chat (not all of it– my own incompetence) when they attacked me in the TBR chatzy room for 2 hours. (I mean who the fuck does that to a blog commenter????) Of course it all came back to I am working with 17 and Plum to destroy them.

    • Edwin

      PS they love me and I am a lying pos (have the screen grabs)

      • 17

        And I am a demented, vicious, sick little man with a hateful obsession.

        • Edwin

          I saw that. Did you see I posted a reply to that? (Maybe deleted now. If so I can paraphrase.)

          • 17

            I see everything you do, Edwin. You know that.

          • Edwin

            Isn’t it a teensy bit boring?

    • dayanmao

      Watch out Edwin, they’ll get you in Korean Civil Court.

      They’d be fun to read actually. I can’t say I’ve ever come across such incompetence. Nastiness, lies, distortions, CTR types? Sure, but not such a display of utter incompetence.

      • Edwin

        You now, it’s funny, but one time I was chatting a gay room and some guy got mad at me and said he knew US army intelligence people in South Korea who could really fuck me up. What happens to some people on the internet?

        • Nancy

          their parent drank too much while they were pregnant?

          • Edwin

            Hey! My Mom drank and smoked when she was pregnant with me and…. yeah, OK, Nevermind.

          • Nancy

            me too…I rest my case.
            we are fucking delinquents.

        • Nevin

          They are like my dog. She is tough and mean when she barks behind the door. Let someone in and she runs to the bedroom.

          • notisaidthepig

            LOL!

          • Rich H

            A long time ago one of our neighbors had a dog, a very friendly, shaggy, happy faced, sheepdog. He’d stick his head through the fence and smile, let his tongue hang out, wag his tail, as if to say “come on over and pet me, I really, really, really, want to play”.

            Then you’d go over and he’d still be smiling, he’d let you put your hand out, then, when it was close enough to bite, go total apeshit, barking, snarling and growling.

            He’d pull the same routine Every Day. I loved that dog.

          • Edwin

            Was the dog’s name Ricki?

          • Rich H

            No, but he was cute and Never Gave Up.

    • cathyx

      You better be careful or they will write another letter to plum threatening her to ban you or the internet lawyers will sue her.

    • 17

      I’ve got lotsa room in the woodshed for dropbox pages.

  • Edwin

    Also, when I was first directed here, to unka’s, I believe it was private, by invitation only. Is that true?

  • Rich H

    Whew, back to my old self.

    • MsPythia

      Hi Rich! πŸ˜€

      • Rich H

        Hi MsPythia. I missed my old avatar.

        • MsPythia

          πŸ˜€

    • notisaidthepig

      Well, hello there. It’s been a while.

      • Rich H

        Why yes, yes it has.

        • notisaidthepig

          And here we are. What a world!

    • Edwin

      Just like old times. πŸ™‚

  • Rich H

    Does anyone know how to stop someone from following you on disqus or do you just make your comments private?

    • notisaidthepig

      Go private. It helps.

    • MsPythia

      Mine are private, but I haven’t been keeping up with whether you can selectively block someone. They change stuff all the time.

    • cathyx

      Make them private. Rich, go look at TBR and the mod (Ricki) telling you off.

      • Rich H

        O.k. Good choice. I’m doing it now.

      • Nancy

        quite the “shaming” reply.

        • cathyx

          And he edited it so that it didn’t say anything, and that’s not good enough,

          • MsPythia

            Cuckoo.

        • notisaidthepig

          The tone is just horrid.

          • Edwin

            sounds like Hillary Clinton with a few drinks into her

          • notisaidthepig

            Yikes.

          • MsPythia

            LOL!

          • towerofbabel

            I don’t get it at all. I think we were supposed to be their masterpiece of a blog community. But they forgot the community part of their perfect community. It’s like Pygmalion and his statue. We were to be their GalatΓ©e.

          • notisaidthepig

            Love the classical allusion! And…yep.

        • Edwin

          My gawd. I guess they’re going the kamikaze route.

      • dayanmao

        Do I have to? I always say, if I want to converse with an ahole, all I have to do is talk with my neighbor.

        • cathyx

          It’s entertaining.

    • Edwin

      Go private, for sure. It’s not 2015 any longer.

    • Nevin

      Did you have another name at TBR?

      • dayanmao

        I had my original name for years, I kept it after being banned at hacks, used it at Alternet before getting banned there, then changed it. So TBR is a different name. It’s nice to be my old self again.

  • towerofbabel

    Where am I? Did I just die and join my dead relatives in heaven?

    • RTIII

      Hey Tower! πŸ™‚

    • MsPythia

      YAY! Tower is here! πŸ˜€

    • Dosido3

      I feel like that kid in Sixth Sense. Testing…testing…is this thing on? Are you guys going to cut my mike? I promise not to toss chairs….

      • MsPythia

        Hi! Dosido! Hahaha — we’re practically all here! πŸ˜€

        • Dosido3

          Weirrrrrdddd! I checked dayanmao’s comment and saw familiar names replying to him. Hope it’s OK that I stopped by unannounced. I’m feeling really confused.

          • MsPythia

            I’m totally glad you’re here. Hope it’s okay with Unka — we’ve kind of invaded him all in one day!

          • Dosido3

            Ok cool! I’ve missed Unka from that Hillary place. I had no idea there were other neighborhoods!

          • MsPythia

            This is Unka Willbur’s blog. πŸ˜€

          • Dosido3

            Right. And hi Unka! I sometimes have this dream where I am cruising through the neighborhood sneaking through people’s houses to get through to the next block without people seeing me. It feels like that.

          • MsPythia

            πŸ˜€ That sounds exciting!

          • Edwin

            after ignoring him for months

            sorry Unka– we are so bad

          • dayanmao

            So my error had an upside. Good.

          • Dosido3

            LOL. Yes!

        • towerofbabel

          Smokie is still AWOL.

          • MsPythia

            I know — I’m worried about that. Also worried about Smot.

          • Dosido3

            Oh! I’ve been wondering. I hope he is OK and just taking a break. But you never know.

          • Nevin

            I ran into him at Alternet yesterday

          • RTIII

            If somebody finds him, me and Spiffy have ways of getting to him without tipping off others… Just let one of us know! (No, we don’t have his email…)

          • MsPythia

            Find him RT! I’m really concerned. He used to post everyday, but I haven’t seen him for days now.

          • notisaidthepig

            Yeah, it’s worrying.

      • Nancy

        yeah!!!! hello!!!

        • Dosido3

          Hi!! I saw you this morning and then you were gone. I thought everyone was just stepping back from their keyboards…

          • Nancy

            no I was checking out the damage control-saw far too many lies and left. for good.
            really glad you found us!

          • Edwin

            I am banned, many left for good

            PS I go where Nancy goes

          • Dosido3

            Hi Edwin. You’re my Dennis the Menace. πŸ™‚

          • notisaidthepig

            Yep.

          • Dosido3

            Hi pig. I was so sad when you bowed out. Very happy to see you! Oink!

          • notisaidthepig

            Hi, Dosido! Yes, I’m still sad about what happened. I was treated very well by both Neb and Ricki. However, I can’t stand silent when others are mistreated. Glad to see you here. Oink! (((hugs)))

          • RTIII

            I’ve been wondering if I should exit in a similar manner.

            More likely, I’m going to wait for someone we know and love but can’t find any other way stumbles back on the place and I can swoop in and comment to find us – it’ll go in to their in box and even if they ban me or delete the comment, it’s too late! πŸ™‚

          • Nancy

            that’s why they locked down all the old threads RT so we couldn’t let people know where we are.

          • RTIII

            That REALLY sucks dick. X-(

          • Nancy

            they didn’t mind us doing it to fill up their site…funny how that works.

          • Aeragon

            Hello Nancy, I am an avenging sock angel, you may have noticed me at Plums. I am happy to see you all escaped the madness and have a new home. Use this quickly, I think they will watch you here, but this is the back door to the conversations at TBR. I can still see all old threads, maybe you can too using this link. I hope you find all your friends, good luck to all here. πŸ™‚ https://disqus.com/home/forums/thebannedroom3/

          • Nancy

            thank you but there is a little icon of a lock on the left of the threads. that means it’s not open for comments ;-(
            you are great for doing that though…thanks again!

          • Aeragon

            oh, I see. Although comments are closed, I thought you might be able to catch the open profiles to leave messages at other places. Some are still able to be followed, at least I hoped so for all of you. Again, good luck to all of you!

          • Nancy

            that’s a great idea-however the majority of us were private…I will check through them and make sure-again, thanks! that’s a help!

          • Aeragon

            πŸ™‚ goodnight

          • Nancy

            night…

          • Dosido3

            Wow. An Internet angel. You know the coolest people!

          • Nancy

            lol, right? I don’t know this one though…I checked the profiles and most of them are private. I remember we did that to keep the trolls away.

          • RTIII

            Just curious how you happened to join us?

          • 17

            Aeragon knows us and all this shit from Plum’s.

          • Aeragon

            Sorry, just seeing this. Nothing mysterious. Ricki has an incredibly long and ugly history on line. I am someone who has tangled with her in the past, and if you’ve been to Plums site to read the comments there, or to 17’s woodshed to read his drop box things, you will see some of my history with Ricki. A bunch of us keep her in our sights to try to minimize her damage, and make ourselves available to say to upcoming victims “No, you are not crazy, she really does stalk, harass, use socks, threaten, dox, and beat people up. All. The. Time.” I am not part of your group, and never went to TBR. Your group is just the latest to get a feel for who Ricki really is, I am part of an earlier group, now the 2 have joined forces, exchanged stories and compared notes. Congrats to all on your new home. πŸ™‚

          • notisaidthepig

            Oh, RT. This sounds like a good plan. Aren’t you worried about prying eyes with this comment????

          • RTIII

            Right now? Hmmm… Not really. If Neb or Ricki find this place, they’re going to have their blood boil and probably won’t have the cognitive wherewithall to pick through it carefully…

            BUT, maybe you’re right, I’ll edit it!

          • Edwin

            You should stay unbanned in case we want to get a message to someone. Then you could do a “suic1de” run, if you know what I mean.

          • Nancy

            lmao…

          • Edwin

            You know, any other blog would have banned my ass hours before I went in to make snide comments like— “Maybe we should move this crown thing to 600, just for today.” But they didn’t because Ricki wanted to argue with me.

          • Nancy

            exactly…there was the need to further gaslight you and make them look like they were the victims. it was disgusting…just like what KK did to you and us at C&L. play and lie and damage control and clean up.
            you were used for their needs.

          • notisaidthepig

            That’s how I see it as well.

          • Nancy

            I think it’s pretty obvious.

          • Dosido3

            Uh…maybe I should change my name to captain obvious. I guess things were deleted too quickly for me to catch up too. I did go looking in the book thread…

          • Edwin

            thrown under da bus πŸ™

          • Nancy

            yup.

          • Edwin

            Totally. Nothing slips past your keen eye.

          • Nancy

            I am a therapist-I am supposed to see through that behaviour…I watched and waited. it happened. people show us who they are-we need to believe them.

          • notisaidthepig

            So freaking true, Nancy.

          • Edwin

            Aha. I knew you weren’t just a pretty face.

          • Nancy

            ha! it’s been hard to keep it in perspective.

          • Edwin

            Ha ha

          • Nancy

            πŸ˜‰
            just saw this!

          • RTIII

            they royally pissed me off about 11 days ago or so, and I was just “stepping back from my keyboard” – until, that is, I saw what happened yesterday and then on-going this AM.

            Not only can I never support them again in any way, it kinda bothers me that ANY of us are still showing up there! But, of course, to each their own! … And so when I saw you still posting I was wondering how to give you the high-sign to find where we’d all gone! … Glad you’re here!

          • Dosido3

            Thanks RT. they have been nice to me. I have no idea. I just want to discuss politics with fun people.

          • Edwin

            That comment from (cough) “Garza” was very rude and snotty and very un-called for.

          • RTIII

            Thanks, Edwin. …I thought sockpuppets were officially NOT OK there! Hypocrites!

          • Edwin

            I didn’t see it until days later. I was investigating Garza’s comment history (some bullshit going on there) and was horrified to see it.

          • RTIII

            I tried to look into that today and only found ONE comment from 7 years ago. . . WTF? What about the comment TO ME?!

            They deleted all of it, I think.

          • Edwin

            They have been deleting a lot of things. The dust up with Plum in the book thread is gone. Erased from history.

            BTW that is what prompted my first grilling in TBR chatzy by those two– about 17 and Plum ………………..(and my part in their plot to destroy Ricki)

          • 17

            Someone alerted me to the Book Room Dustup convo at Plum’s. That’s like the first time I was able to openly promote the link to the Woodshed. Then when they sent her that letter, and she stuffed it in their asses…..I was so, so happy. I knew then that the end was near.

          • Edwin

            I still don’t know the whole story– the whole picture (nor do I really care). I am very confused, but get the general drift now. Because I quipped to you somewhere, “you should start your own blog,” (do you remember?) Ricki took that to be disloyalty and that I am one of your agents working to destroy her. Ditto that for Cathyx who also said hi in that thread.

            Yes, she was stalking us!!!!!!!!!!!!! Imagine that.

          • Edwin

            Guess who this is.

          • cathyx

            Only if other people do it.

      • RTIII

        HEY! Dosido! Glad to see you here! I was thinking how we might send you a smoke signal!

        How’d you find this place?

        • Dosido3

          Out of some weird curious impulse, I checked on dayanmao’s name and saw familiar names commenting with him. I lucked out because I think he just went private? So I just clicked on the board name. Voila! Lafayette, I am here!

          • RTIII

            Perfect! We’re all lucky! πŸ™‚

          • Edwin

            They have closed off all the old threads so we can’t get messages to the others: Taleisin, Stupid Git, etc.

          • MsPythia

            That’s some sick shit.

          • notisaidthepig

            Very revealing though, isn’t it?

          • MsPythia

            They think the people who post there BELONG to them. Next they’ll be doing loyalty oaths.

          • Edwin

            They know how they got us.

            I think they might be overlooking that many of us are very fucking clever.

          • towerofbabel

            That’s what I did.

          • Dosido3

            Great minds! πŸ™‚

    • notisaidthepig

      Yep.

      • towerofbabel

        Great to see everyone’s happy avatars!

        • MsPythia

          We’ve got a new home — same fam.

    • Edwin

      Tower. πŸ™‚

    • Nancy

      oh so glad you are here!!!!

    • Nancy

      sorry to be so short with you this morning-was not able to really get into anything in my replies!

      • towerofbabel

        I didn’t notice. Thanks for that though.

        • Nancy

          ahh good to hear. I value posting with you and hoped I wasn’t too abrupt and cryptic!

  • notisaidthepig

    This is coming up in about 20 minutes maybe….for those that have tvs and watch Fox (((shudders))):

    https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/763095484105945088

  • Nevin

    Hey Fixer. Come out, come out, where ever you are.

    • MsPythia

      He was here this morning! πŸ™‚

      • Nevin

        Good.

    • RTIII

      Yeah, he said he’ll be back. If you look down thread far enough, you’ll find his comment…

      • Nevin

        Thanks RT.

  • notisaidthepig
    • MsPythia

      A girl? That’s so stupid.

      • notisaidthepig

        The only have the two tactics:

        1. She’s a woman.
        2. She’s not Trump.

        Jeez.

        • MsPythia

          Indeed.

        • dayanmao

          After being badgered by a Hillary CTR troll this morning this is, in part, what I replied with. His response? Just to attack some more.

          “BTW, with the 200+ negative Trump articles the MSM runs every day, will
          they have enough fodder to make it to election day? Will they
          eventually run out? Will they ever have to discuss Hillary’s record?
          Will she ever hold a press conference? Will she release her
          transcripts?”

          • notisaidthepig

            Excellent response. With the M$M FULLY backing her, $hillary is still in the dumps. She’s the worst candidate. Maybe ever. Funny how the press never mentions that she simply won’t talk to them.

    • Nevin

      I said it when this twitter shit began, but she is just lowering herself.

      • notisaidthepig

        I can’t say I have any respect left for her. A total sellout.

        • dayanmao

          So totally true. I have no respect for her whatsoever.

          • notisaidthepig

            I read something somewhere the other day about Stein running against Warren in 2020. Forget the implausibility of this as $hillary will not be satisfied with a single term. She will steal a second election. It would be fun to see Stein and the Greens run against Warren; I pray the GP does well now and it will change the dynamics for 2020 considerably. (I love politics!)

        • Edwin

          a d-bag

    • Edwin

      two thumbs down – pathetic

    • QueenSpiffy

      A girl?! HILLARY IS OVER SIXTY FUCKING YEARS OLD!

      That is sexist right there. Calling a 60+ year old woman, a girl.

      • Nancy

        that term is also used to bring this down to a lower level of maturity-like he’s a little boy that’s afraid of a girl. it’s actually damming to him.

        • QueenSpiffy

          No, actually it just makes Warren look pathetic.

          What does she think she’s still on the playground?

          • Nancy

            I disagree…but we can do that! it’s a term from when we were children. it’s about being afraid of a girl and she puts him back in that place by using it.

          • QueenSpiffy

            Maybe it’s just a generational thing.

          • Nancy

            it totally is. we all said it and taunted boys with it.

          • QueenSpiffy

            lol i see. we used to do that until like middle school xD

          • Nancy

            that’s my point-she’s telling him he’s nothing more than a little boy-not a man and certainly not presidential material.

          • QueenSpiffy

            It just sounds so incredibly sexist, no matter which lens I’m viewing it from.

            No different than Obama being called a boy.

          • Nancy

            I get it…it is. it’s also demeaning but to Trump.

          • QueenSpiffy

            Yeah Warren had me fooled.

            To think I once would have had trouble deciding between her and Bernie.

        • QueenSpiffy

          My fury is at Warren, never the nancyness πŸ™‚

          • Nancy

            oh I know…she has greatly disappointed me as well.

          • QueenSpiffy

            T_T yep.

      • Edwin

        My aged father says stiff like, “She’s a nice little girl.”

        • QueenSpiffy

          lol

          • Edwin

            He’s 87 now so we just let it go.

          • QueenSpiffy

            Ah well at a certain point, you kinda have to lol.

          • Nancy

            I’m hoping the same thing happens for me when I hit 60!!
            that would be great to be indulged and given these passes!

  • MsPythia

    Well kids, I’ve got to go — see you tomorrow! (((Hugs))) to you all!

    • Nancy

      hugs back Ms.

    • RTIII

      Me too, I really hvae to get some work done!

    • Edwin

      Ciao ciao. I’m so happy we all have a place to find each other!! See you tomorrow. πŸ™‚

    • notisaidthepig

      Take care, MsP! Oink!

  • notisaidthepig

    Is anyone surprised by this? I’m heartened by it actually. DWS must be in deep trouble. Hope she gets kicked to the curb by Canova.

    Clinton lends a hand to embattled Debbie Wasserman Schultz
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/clinton-lends-a-hand-to-embattled-debbie-wasserman-schultz/article/2598980

    • Dosido3

      HRC announced she would be doing some heavy lifting in Florida when she hired DWS. You know…she really wants to help the down ticket races! πŸ˜›

    • Rich H

      I don’t believe the voting results will be any more legitimate for her seat than it was for Hillary. Somehow, DWS is supposedly polling about 7 of 8% higher than Cavanaugh – as if I believe that one too. One good thing is Cavanaugh has filed a lawsuit against DWS and the DNC.

      Good luck to him, he’s going to need it.

      • notisaidthepig

        I think DWS will steal it as well. There’s ABSOLUTELY no trust in the electoral process after what we witnessed in the primary contests. None.

        • Rich H

          Yeah, this election ripped off the band aid that covered our already corrupt election process. We all knew it was bad, but to this extent?

          I’m still voting, but I’m fully aware my vote will count for whichever candidate they want it to count for.

          • notisaidthepig

            Yep.

        • Rich H

          Hey look – Rich H and dayanmao both up voted you. I’m going to have to get the hang of two accounts or just give one up.

          • notisaidthepig

            I don’t mind. Oink!

          • Annaleigh

            Found the voter fraud! πŸ˜›

    • towerofbabel

      They’ll rig that one for sure.

  • notisaidthepig
  • notisaidthepig

    ICYMI: This is one of those Brock smears that the M$M has picked up. There’s no truth to it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnKQJVhIRlk

    • Rich H

      Every day. A thousand times a day. The CTR types are just falling all over themselves with this one.

      • notisaidthepig

        There’s not much to pin on Stein so they have to make shit up. The usual. Fortunately for them, the M$M is only too happy to pass along the misinformation. Luckily for us, there are few still listening to the M$M. Far too many still but less every day.

        • Rich H

          Here’s the response from JKX (probably my favorite poster on A) to a Stein anti-science troll. I just copied because he did all the work on the links.

          JonathanK X (((dagobarbz)))

          β€’a day ago

          “I am anti-Stein because I am…pro science.”
          OH GAWD!!!!

          The anti-vax and anti-science memes CTR is floating against Dr. Jill Stein have already been thoroughly debunked:

          http://www.snopes.com/is-green

          YOU WANT ANTI-SCIENCE???

          Here’s your own lying corrupt war queen HRH HRC with a straight out full blown wing nut anti-vax quote of her own:

          “I am committed to make investments to find the causes of autism,
          including possible environmental causes like vaccines…We don’t know
          what, if any, kind of link there is between vaccines and autism – but we
          should find out.”

          MAKE NO MISTAKE – THIS ANTI VAX QUOTE IS NOT FROM DR JILL STEIN. IT IS FROM HILLARY RODHAM NIXON!

          http://www.ageofautism.com/200

          Hillary Clinton’s Anti-vax Smear Campaign Against Green Party Candidate Dr. Jill Stein

          https://youtu.be/cJNLRB-hhZU

          Green Candidate Jill Stein Isn’t Anti-Vaccine

          https://youtu.be/jNG3gDTPYjc

          EXCLUSIVE: Hijacked By Pro-Vaccine Troll Dr. David Gorski, Wikipedia Circulates Deceitful Entry On VAXXED Documentary

          http://www.mediafactwatch.com/

          David Gorski’s Financial Pharma Ties: What He Didn’t Tell You

          http://www.ageofautism.com/201

          Clear Proof David Gorski Is Dishonest And A Liar

          https://childhealthsafety.word

          Pro-vaccine shill Dr. David Gorski, linked to cancer fraudster, in cahoots with pharma to develop lucrative autism drug

          http://www.naturalnews.com/053

          David Gorski aka ORAC “Garbage doctor with his nose up in the air”

          http://www.stemcellpioneers.co

          HuffPo censors VAXXED documentary article and blocks writer account after
          discredited science troll David Gorski hijacks Wikipedia to trash the
          film

          http://crazzfiles.com/huffpo-c

          Hillary Clinton’s Anti-vax Smear Campaign Against Green Party Candidate Dr. Jill Stein

          https://youtu.be/cJNLRB-hhZU

          Dr. Jill Stein Responds to Anti-Vax Smears

          https://youtu.be/WiQWhJj-3yQ

          And the CTR wi-fi mud slinging against Dr. Stein ignores that the danger of
          background rf radiation and other types of electromagnetic waves Is a
          real issue:

          Parents For Safe Technology

          “Around the world, countries are taking strong action to reduce wireless radiation on children.

          In addition the policies listed below, countries like Switzerland, Italy,
          France, Austria, Luxembourg, Bulgaria, Poland, Hungary, Israel, Russia
          and China have set RF exposure limits 100 to 10,000 times less than the
          USA. They recognize that there can be non-thermal biological effects
          from wireless radiation.”

          http://www.parentsforsafetechn

          Scores of Scientists Raise Alarm About the Long-Term Health Effects of Cellphones

          http://www.motherjones.com/env

          “Based on peer-reviewed, published research, we have serious concerns
          regarding the ubiquitous and increasing exposure to EMF generated by
          electric and wireless devices,” reads the letter, whose signatories have
          collectively published more than 2,000 peer-reviewed papers on the
          subject. “The various agencies setting safety standards have failed to
          impose sufficient guidelines to protect the general public, particularly
          children who are more vulnerable to the effects of EMF.”

          And we’re on to your tactics: the anti-vax and anti-science memes are just
          more CTR propaganda designed to both smear Dr. Jill Stein and misdirect
          the focus away from real issues like election fraud, perpetual war,
          corporate hegemony and poverty that HRC/DNC/CTR don’t want brought up.

        • QueenSpiffy

          She gets more traction out of an anti vax lie than clean energy by 2030. Because vaccines are more important than having a fucking planet.

          • notisaidthepig

            As usual, you are calling the bullshit out. Love it.

          • QueenSpiffy

            I preach to the choir… ;/

    • QueenSpiffy

      Okay Hillary supporters.

      Ahem I have the follow message to this anti vax “argument.”

      I’m a 26 year old white woman from a swing state. (Supposedly a demographic Hillary would want to win.)

      1) Jill is not anti vax.

      2) Even if she was, I do NOT care. The ONLY way I would care, is if you can show me proof that she said some version of the following. “I would ban the use of vaccines.” Baring that, no fucks given.

      3) You are concerned about public health? Oh reallyyyy, what about those 100k dead Iraqis and millions of refugees that your girl over there, who SUCKED at being Sec of State, helped to create? Was it all her fault? No. But she was a HORRIBLE Sec of State and perhaps you will remember this one.

      From the American President, edited slightly.

      “If you want a character fight, you better stick with ME, because Jill Stein is way out of your league.”

      And one more thing.

      About the fact that Hillary is a woman and Donald Trump is soooo scary.

      https://media.giphy.com/media/hYJMvSpmgkt2M/giphy.gif

      • notisaidthepig

        Bravo!

        • QueenSpiffy

          yep yep.

          • notisaidthepig

            That’s one of my favorite memes/gifs you use.

          • QueenSpiffy

            Oh yes, one of my favorites to. i find the watercolors style of animation beautiful. and she looks so regal while she’s doing it.

      • Dosido3

        I would add if they care about this then they should also care about single payer HC. But that’s if one is caring too much about “pet causes”

        • QueenSpiffy

          No, its not a pet cause. It’s just ObamaCare was harrdddddd. πŸ™

          • Dosido3

            I was referencing Bill Mahers stupid put down your pet causes and vote Hillary because Trump is too scary logic.

          • QueenSpiffy

            oh yeah that to.

          • Dosido3

            Great comment though. Way to beat back the bullshit!

          • QueenSpiffy

            ty πŸ™‚

  • notisaidthepig
    • QueenSpiffy

      Oh nothing terrifies them more than the thought of that happening again. The Democrats and Republicans go BOOM, the second a third party (any third party) gets a solid footing.

      • notisaidthepig

        It’s just facts. They can’t stand that.

        • QueenSpiffy

          40% + of people are Independents. If they wanted, they could take this.

          • notisaidthepig

            I like how Stein keeps saying if all the people with student debt support her, then she wins the election. That’s the 43million number she uses. She’s right. And remember it’s more than just the students. There are parents who co-signed the loans and all that. The number is actually higher. It could, theoretically, happen.

          • QueenSpiffy

            Yeah. dont’ see it happening, but maybe a miracle will occur.

  • notisaidthepig

    Clinton Abandons Sanders Progressives to Court the Establishment
    Trump’s unpopularity has given Hillary a pass to revert back to her centrist ways

    http://observer.com/2016/08/clinton-abandons-sanders-progressives-to-court-the-establishment/#.V6peq_xIOXM.twitter

    • Edwin

      I did not see that coming. Did you?

      • notisaidthepig

        Who me? Silly pig that I am? So surprised!

  • QueenSpiffy

    This makes me laugh. Apparently we are still supposed to be outraged that Trump threatened violence. Got this email.

    Just when it seems that Donald Trump could not say anything more appalling than calling for a wall along our border with Mexico, proposing a ban on Muslims, or disparaging the parents of a fallen American military hero, he has gone shockingly further.

    Today in North Carolina, Trump suggested that the β€œSecond Amendment people” stop Hillary Clinton from picking Supreme Court justices.

    THINK ABOUT IT: The GOP’s presidential nominee has just called for gun violence to settle differences of opinion.

    Since he already has Secret Service agents protecting him, what must his protection detail be thinking?

    Commit to vote to stop Trump

    Trump is dangerous only because he was by far the most popular candidate among 17 Republicans. He emerged from decades of GOP race-baiting, xenophobia, and hate. He is extreme, but not an anomaly.

    And while a few prominent Republicans have pointedly said that they cannot vote for Trump, the great majority continue to endorse him.

    Only the GOP can reject him, because Trump = GOP.

    Tell Reince Priebus, the chair of the Republican National Committee, that
    until the GOP repudiates Trump and his literally treasonous approach to
    politics, you’re holding the entire party responsible.

    On Election Day, only the American voting public can stop him.

    Until then, commit to vote against Trump.

    This is no election to sit out. Join us.

    Thanks,

    Heather Hargreaves

    Vice President, National Program

    NextGen Climate

    • QueenSpiffy
    • notisaidthepig

      Ugh. $hillary socks and puppets. Fearmongering like there’s no tomorrow. My response: fuck you.

      • QueenSpiffy

        A climate group said this. aye a ye.

        • notisaidthepig

          What?! Unreal.

          • QueenSpiffy

            Read signature at the bottom. It says, NextGen Climate. It’s a climate group.

          • notisaidthepig

            Must. use. reading. glasses.

          • QueenSpiffy

            Yes. You. Must.

          • Edwin

            I frigging love this and use it all day every day. You can’t be a good sleuth without one. Dead easy to install and use. Magnifies to 10X. I don’t know how I ever lived without it.

            http://magnifier.sourceforge.net/

          • notisaidthepig

            I have it! You shared a while back. Oink!

          • Edwin

            I luv it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Rich H

      You know who I’m holding responsible for all this? The DNC, the Clintons and DWS. F*ck ’em. Let them reap what they sow.

      • QueenSpiffy

        indeed

    • Annaleigh

      How soon they forget what Hillary said in 2008…

  • notisaidthepig
    • QueenSpiffy

      Greenwald sounds familiar. good on him.

      • Dosido3

        QS he’s a high profile columnist who published the Snowden leaks. He’s with the Intercept.

        • QueenSpiffy

          ohhh

        • Nancy

          speaking of Snowden…any word on him? or from him?

          • QueenSpiffy

            I expect we’ll get a reply from Snow the same day a certain someone tells me who they are going to vote for.

          • Nancy

            lol…I am worried about him. no contact since Friday? a very ominous text in code…not good.

          • QueenSpiffy

            Frankly, I hate to say it. But I’m surprised he’s lived this long.

          • Nancy

            right?!

          • QueenSpiffy

            yea

          • Dosido3

            Not that I know of…

          • Nancy

            thanks, I should really go and look it up…

          • Annaleigh

            Still no new tweets… πŸ™

        • Edwin

          And they hate his effing guts at C&L because NB drama and lies. Go figure, eh??!!

          • Dosido3

            I never understood that. The first time I discovered GG was when I found his book What Would A Patriot Do? I had been looking for a Rule of Law type who was speaking out. Speaking for me!

          • Edwin

            Nicole Belle psycho-drama

      • towerofbabel

        He’s a real journalist and that is high praise these days.

        • Edwin

          I have great respect for Greenwald.

          C&L’s deranged hatred of him is unfounded, it’s personal, not professional

          • towerofbabel

            Because he refuses to get in line. That’s why I love him and his friends.

          • cathyx

            Hilbots hate Greenwald.

          • 17

            Greetings, Human. I grock Spock.

          • Rich H

            Hillbots love hillbots and hate Everything else.

          • Edwin

            At C&L Nicole Belle hates him. She thinks she launched his career and he laughs that off as a pathetic vengeful joke. I exchanged emails with Glenn. He told me about it.

            Nicole did tell me she launched his career and if I didn’t watch it, she had the ban hammer.

          • Rich H

            What? Nicole “I got PTSD from reading a blog” Bell launched Greenwald’s career. ROFL!

          • Edwin

            Yup. Ask anyone over there. That’s why they call him Glenzilla.

          • Nancy

            why do people feel the need to make claims about things that aren’t true? taking credit for something they had no part of? ugh…such petty little people. I see it all over in all walks of life. it’s really irritating-regardless of the level it’s happening.

          • Edwin

            I hate it too.

            When I tell you guys I am a pathetic little whackjob, a low-life wiseacre, believe me.

          • Nancy

            lol, nice try.

          • towerofbabel

            Trying to keep the house-of-cards propped up.

          • Nancy

            exactly. when I see that in people-I am so turned off.

          • Rich H

            What was Karoli’s? She worked at CNN or something, what she doesn’t say was she was probably an unpaid intern while in school and her job was to get Wolf Blitzer coffee.

          • Edwin

            Oh, gosh. I uncovered a trove of stuff on her recently. She’s made a lot of enemies.

          • 17

            Yes you have. You’re very good at it where she’s concerned.

          • Rich H

            Let me know. I’m curious. I’d get a kick out of it.

          • Edwin

            Check this out. I didn’t go much beyond this. Got the picture. You could do some follow up, I’m sure.

            http://davefromqueens2.blogspot.kr/2012/12/aaron-walker-denied-and-new-team.html

          • towerofbabel

            A lot of the bots have rather sketchy resumes. Like the guy that does The Peoples View. He appears to be a complete fraud and opportunist.

          • Nancy

            the need for self inflation is so immature and tiresome. don’t they realize that things can be found out-threads can be read, info looked up?
            pathetic…I almost feel sorry for them.

          • Rich H

            Anyone that works for hacksandliars and claims to be a journalist is lying to begin with, so there’s that.

          • Nancy

            right! easy to spot that lie and the bullshit!

          • towerofbabel

            And she taught him everything he knows about journalism.

          • Rich H

            It’s a good thing I’m not drinking a glass of milk, because….

            Hilarious!

          • Edwin

            Yes. You know the story. True.

          • Edwin

            It’s very stressful being a (cough cough sneeze) “progressive” blogger these days. Nicole knows.

          • Edwin

            She recovered from her PTSD now and then to come into C&L and dish out spankings to people that upset her.

            Did you know Susie Madrak did the same one night after she had left for BNR. Came back in as “site team” one night and spanked a bunch of us.

            Amato is a putz.

          • Rich H

            Oh yeah, I noticed how she’d come back, spew some shit, then depart. Real class that one. As for J.A. when are they going to give him his b*lls back? More likely he never had any.

          • Edwin

            We saw everything. We know about those fuckers.

          • Edwin

            I don’t know if you saw the immediate aftermath of Purge#1 when Bede was making protestations to Amato to come to the table for discussion. I stuck my oar in and had quite a few words with the mods. It was middle of the night, your time. They were very nasty to me and deleted most of my comments.

            Any time I made valid points and held their feet to the fire they deleted my comments and often full sub-threads. They told me to back off or else. They were busy cleaning up the threads in damage control mode, all night long. I watched.

            It was very (cough) “progressive” (fart) of them.

          • cathyx

            That’s great Edwin. I’m a HUGE Greenwald fan.

          • Edwin

            One of the few voices out there I trust.

        • QueenSpiffy

          πŸ™‚

    • Edwin

      Ha ha.

    • Dosido3

      Awesome! I follow him on Twitter but missed this one. Thx.

      • QueenSpiffy

        Do πŸ˜€ You made it.

        • Dosido3

          Yeah! There I was…yak kin’ it up with the hosts, not noticing everyone headed out the door…I felt like I lost at musical chairs or something!

          • QueenSpiffy

            yeah.

          • Edwin

            πŸ™

            poor Chunga

          • Edwin

            Chunga has been camping and knows nothing about what went down.

            His profile is open if anyone can reach him.

            PS they’re soon the break the 100 comment mark. (Crowns for all?)

          • Nancy

            smart ass…love it
            I will try…

          • cathyx

            Edwin, i’m banned from TBR now too, I have joined the banned from the banned room club.

          • notisaidthepig

            Congratulations?

          • Edwin

            Cathyx, 17 and I are the worst people ever. We are conspirators.

          • cathyx

            Rah!

          • notisaidthepig

            You really should set your sights on $hillary and just bring her down with all the power you have.

          • Edwin

            long as you guys cheer me on, all the way

          • Nancy

            you got it!!!

          • notisaidthepig

            Go, Edwin, Go! Hurray!!!!

          • Edwin

            Woo hoo.

          • cathyx

            I know, right? I feel so proud. It’s been a long time coming. I haven’t commented there for a couple of months. Just like RS. They are so similar now.

          • Edwin

            You had a target on your back. This dust up is the excuse to purge. No different than Karoli and Roxanne

          • cathyx

            I don’t mind, TBR is in the same league at C&L, Rawstory, and Alternet. One doesn’t have freedom of speech at any of those sites and the mods are heavy handed. And to think that TBR was started to be a safe place from that type of thing. LOL.

          • notisaidthepig

            The irony is staggering.

          • Edwin

            It’s even worse because fakeness-lies-deceit.

          • Nancy

            he’s only posting on sites that I am banned at.

          • Edwin

            me too

          • Edwin

            Remember before this election and there was none of this shit???

          • towerofbabel

            Make a comment win a crown.

          • Edwin

            I’m banned.

            It seems they are stuck at 93 because no one is there.

  • notisaidthepig
    • Nancy

      ugh, that is so awful…they will lie and spin it and say it’s more Russian lies-but we all knew there is a reason he’s dead.
      so sad.

      • notisaidthepig

        I feel so awful for his family.

        • Nancy

          it’s gutting to see what happening.
          bastards.

          • notisaidthepig

            How can anyone think it’s a coincidence?

          • Nancy

            no one can…they are so brazen-they don’t even care about what they do and who knows.

          • Rich H

            My computer hasn’t worked right since I reloaded my old operating system, is that a story on the Washington staffer that was shot, killed and not robbed?

          • notisaidthepig

            Yes. Random, they said. No motive. Nothing taken. Very odd at the time. Maybe not so much now.

          • Rich H

            I posted a link the other day regarding all of the deaths associated with the Clintons. Of course I got called out (I’m not an entire Conspiracy Theorist), but the list of literally dozens of people who’ve met untimely, unlikely deaths around them is amazing.

            As for me, how many people do I/have I known that have died in car accidents, plane accidents, suicides, homicides, mysterious illnesses and/or poisoning? The grand total is 1.

            If it were normal for this level of “accidental” deaths, we’d all be short a dozen extended family members and friends.

          • 17

            That list is now at 48 dead.

          • Rich H

            People I know, especially ones I don’t like for various reasons, drop dead all the time. It’s quite the coincidence.

          • 17

            LMAO! I actually had some idiot tell me people were dying like that all around him too, as a defense for the Clinton list.

          • Annaleigh

            Wow. That’s just…desperate.

          • Annaleigh

            I was shocked to discover that even one double murder case that aired multiple times on Unsolved Mysteries and is still fairly popular to discuss amongst the mystery crowd is on the alleged body count. I would’ve never imagined that, what would the Clintons want with them, two teenage boys? But it is Arkansas and people believe they were in the wrong place at the wrong time: http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Don_Henry_and_Kevin_Ives

            Edit – I still can’t get over the haunted look in the train engineers’s eyes…it wasn’t his fault but he still blamed himself. Poor guy. πŸ™

      • Edwin

        or Russian assassins meddling in US affairs—>War!!!

        • Nancy

          of course…any lie will do.

          • Edwin

            This 2016 elections seems very unlike an election and more like a major power-grab orchestrated by the 0.01%.

            Not that they haven’t done it before, but this time they don’t care what the public thinks. And still these mindless Hillbots cheer on Hillary as Saviour.

          • Nancy

            that’s what’s so frightening-they are doing it, they know we know they are doing it and don’t care!
            brazen and bold and without checks and balances…where does this end?

          • towerofbabel

            That’s why this “election” is likely the last one.

          • Nancy

            so what do you think will happen next tower?

          • QueenSpiffy

            *looks around shiftily. drags Nancy off to the magical forest. casts spell.* That’s when we unleash our army of pixies on them all and storm the Bastille (Congress.) And we take back our country.

            http://66.media.tumblr.com/44037401271b66a3cae8ac94f1b89a24/tumblr_o0r8472Rfa1v14o9po1_1280.jpg

          • Nancy

            beautiful! if only πŸ˜‰

          • QueenSpiffy

            it is going to happen.

          • towerofbabel

            I think the pretend elections will continue but become more and more obviously fraudulent. This is their way to accomplish the neoliberal coup without a fight–like slow-boiling a frog.

          • Nancy

            sad…
            such a farce. it’s frightening to see this happening and to be so powerless to stop it.

            did you check to see if you can still post at the banned room? mass banning going on-not sure if you are part of it all.

    • Edwin

      Oh, my! This is bound to leave an odor.

      • 17

        Who wants to be the first to tell me to adjust my tin-foil hat?

        • QueenSpiffy

          Adjust it.

        • Edwin

          you need to buy the larger model πŸ™‚

        • notisaidthepig

          Not I. πŸ˜‰

          • QueenSpiffy

            Cause you knew i”d do it lol.

  • notisaidthepig
    • Dosido3

      I think they mean to reward for info about that? Doesn’t read very well, just saying. But yeah, very very strange.

      • QueenSpiffy

        Well Dosido, if you are anything like us…you’ll probably be banned there soon. Best get your last post in.

        • Dosido3

          Are you banned? O.o

          • QueenSpiffy

            yup. I am banned from the banned room.

          • Dosido3

            ..

          • QueenSpiffy

            So are about 4-5+ other people now. Some of whom didn’t even post anything for a few weeks.

          • Dosido3

            SMH

    • I saw that. And I immediately thought, “Is Assange straight-up trolling the Dems now?”

  • cathyx

    Ok, so now we have Banned From the Banned Room members accumulating. Congratulations to us all.

    17 started us off. Thank you 17. Edwin may have been next, i just checked and I am now a proud member, and so is RT. Anyone else claim this title and can join our little but growing group?

    • Edwin

      100th banee gets a prize …….(not the crown thing tho’)

    • QueenSpiffy

      Me. I guess that posting at another site is now grounds for being banned.

      • cathyx

        Welcome QueenSpiffy, it’s an honor, so be proud.

        • QueenSpiffy

          I was trying to salvage something. But I guess it’s guilt by association now. You can’t be in the club house, if you visit more than one.

          • 17

            Have you banned them from your Chatzy room yet?

          • QueenSpiffy

            No. But I assume that they wouldn’t come there after banning me.

          • cathyx

            Don’t bet on it.

          • QueenSpiffy

            They know I can see whoever enters the room lol.

          • 17

            They try to get into The Woodshed every day.

          • QueenSpiffy

            Well that’s because they hate you (no offense.)

          • 17

            No. Actually, it’s because they want to load the room up with crap to push my info out. They think I’m too stupid to rebuild the room every morning. They also want to know what new info I’ve come across, just like they were prying you to find out what you know when they were asking you why you thought the implosion happened. They wanted to know what you know, and they kept feeding you bullshit to see if you’d call them on it. They treated you like a damned idiot by lying to you, just baiting you to see if you really knew what the truth was. Notice you never got that from them?

          • QueenSpiffy

            it was a strange combination of O_O and >.<

      • Edwin

        Disloyal.

        • QueenSpiffy

          I guess so. Not one word. They’ve both always been so nice to me.

          • They were nice to me too, and I considered them friends (at least of the Internet sort.) Then I said the wrong thing, or at least in the wrong way and… BLAM!

            πŸ™

          • cathyx

            Were you actually banned Unka?

          • QueenSpiffy

            i think he was.

          • QueenSpiffy

            yeah. well I feel bad because they had a great thing and they are apparently casting aside a lot of friends because apparently the opinions of the mods at certain websites and a moderator with less than 100 comments, are far more important than us.

          • Edwin

            They were nice to me and I thought I had some new friends. Turns out, NOT.

        • Rebel Scum!

    • RTIII

      I’m VERY certain I never violated their Terms of Service – excepting of course, their claim that we can never “talk behind their backs” … the most ABSURD Term of Service ever conceived!

      • cathyx

        Breathing can violate those TOS, so yeah, we’ve all violated them.

    • Rich H

      I was one of the first posters here and I wasn’t banned, does that count?

      • cathyx

        Are you banned from the banned room? That’s what’s necessary to join THIS club.

        • Rich H

          No, I left voluntarily the day Unkawillbur was harassed and banned. I watched it all happen, and commented saying starting another blog (or something similar) was a good idea*, then “Bam!” he was banned. It was quick and they immediately removed his post (just a few seconds later). That was it for me. Then I was here till my computer malfunctioned.

          *TBR was unruly and hard to navigate. Starting threads once or twice a week to see how many comments you could get was an excuse to be lazy (no offense to anyone) – at least put one up a day even if it began “Good Morning”.

          Just my opinion.

          Oh, but I’m probably banned now.

          • cathyx

            Have you checked just now?

      • QueenSpiffy

        yup

  • QueenSpiffy

    Well I played the Hunger Games and I got fall. But it appears that I have been knifed in the back. I didn’t get a warning or anything.

    We are unable to post your comment because you have been blocked by The Banned Room. Find out more.

    So my friends, if you are posting here, just assume the odds are you are going to get banned. I have a couple friends who haven’t posted anything for weeks, that got banned today. It is a shame. I wanted to continue to visit both places because I have friends at both. This did not need to happen.

    Oh well, in honor of our fallen tributes.

    • Edwin

      The great slaughter begins.

      • QueenSpiffy

        yup

        • Edwin

          It’s all 17’s fault.

          Cathyx and I are merely his minions. Still, I think she’ll retain an extra special hate-on for me.

          • QueenSpiffy

            Oh no doubt. You got a good chunk of a thread dedicated to you. i was apparently not worthy of a good bye.

          • Edwin

            Told you I wasn’t going to slink quietly away. Edwin exits with fireworks.

            Exhibit A: http://crooksandliars.com/2016/05/open-thread-smart-doggie

            Exhibit B: http://thebannedroom.tumblr.com/post/148632099167/announcement

          • QueenSpiffy

            lol yup

          • Nancy

            I am picturing the glitter cannon!

          • QueenSpiffy

            yep i posted it.

          • Nancy

            oh sorry-I need to refresh!

          • QueenSpiffy

            np

          • Rich H

            Oh you’re killing me, stop it, just stop it.

            “Karoli Kuns Site Team Edwin
            2 months ago

            in the posts I deleted, Edwin. You and your cheerleaders.”

            Reminiscent of when she’d post “prove it” knowing full well she’d already removed all evidence. Truly, she has got to be the worst. I’m amazed she wasn’t offered the job at TPV.

          • Nancy

            such a slimy way to treat people…ban ned me and they made all sorts of replies to my comment-had to have the last word.
            chicken-shits.

          • Edwin

            In her spare tome she goes over there to lick their bumholes clean.

          • Edwin

            Did you miss all of that? It was quite a to-do. Karoli deleted a lot of my posts so I look guilty-evil-rotten to passers-by.

          • Rich H

            But not to anyone who knows her game.

          • Edwin

            she be bitch

          • Edwin

            She also said she deleted a lot of posts which were NON-EXISTENT, I didn’t post, because I never attacked Shelly personally. See how she does that?

          • Rich H

            Wow, that Shelly lady, holy shit. If I posted what I thought about her utterly rude, classless, and mean spirited comments (which I would have), I’d have been banned immediately.

            J.A. can really just ESAD for giving someone like that a platform.

          • Edwin

            I sent him two emails about her and he has never responded.

          • Edwin

            Amato is a putz. I don’t really think he’s very bright.

          • Edwin

            Yup. Just chucked you overboard like some jetsam. You usefulness to them is over. That’s how these people operate.

          • cathyx

            We’re under 17’s spell, he is a demon.

          • 17

            Greetings, Human.

          • Edwin

            Take me to my leader.

          • 17

            remind me to get you my list of her socks for future reference.

          • Edwin

            egad– yikes

          • 17

            it’s up to 14 that I know of. Some of the folks at Plum’s have more to add to it.

          • Edwin

            Wow. That just is not normal.

            And, yet, I am the bad guy stalking people on the net. Pfffft

          • 17

            i figure each of the people in her head have their own three.

          • Edwin

            you should write a made-for-TV movie based on a true story

          • cathyx

            It’s a very long list.

          • 17

            14 and counting.

    • Rich H

      What could go wrong with a site that trolls it’s members, makes public “supposed” private conversations, stalks users over the web then headlines the next day with:

      Separating the Wheat from the Chaff.

      How thoroughly unprofessional. Maybe they’ll work their way up to a hundred comments a day.

      • QueenSpiffy

        meow

      • RTIII

        Part of me wants to email Nebdem and talk with him about how he / they fucked up, and part of me is kinda angry at him for being such a dumb fuck to screw up such a wonderful thing.

        • Rich H

          The best advice would be to leave it alone. What an utter disaster.

          • RTIII

            You’re right, of course.

          • cathyx

            I agree, he’s not very receptive to constructive criticism.

    • It’s like a Berserker blood-rage, I’ve seen it happen before. More and more people get perceived as an enemy, and the all of a sudden, The Cheese Stands Alone. It’s a pity.

      • QueenSpiffy

        :/ I really wanted to try to soothe things over.

        • RTIII

          Doomed from the start.

          That day when Ricki stormed through our Chatzy space like it was her own fucking house I knew right away we were headed to disaster – ALL of us. She can’t keep her emotions in check. . . She’s NOT rational.

          • QueenSpiffy

            i feel bad for them, because I believe they are good people. But they couldn’t let this 17 thing go, which led to the Edwin thing, which lead to BOOM.

          • Edwin

            Good people don’t do what they have done.

            All they had to do was say knock it off with the Karoli posts. I woulda said, “Will do boss.” That would have been the end of it.

            Instead look what they did.

          • QueenSpiffy

            They’ll be down to single digits, if they keep this up.

          • RTIII

            They are already!
            What, three other posters?

          • QueenSpiffy

            well not everyone has toddled in eyt.

          • Edwin

            Let’s put this “they are good people” thing to rest. No offense intended, just putting these here. We all feel that to an extent, but you guys weren’t in the chatzy.

            Ricki said this yesterday, about me:

            Basically, having been told on several occasions to stop,
            they chose to be an asshole and when pressed, we were eventually assholes right back.

            In this grab I remind them they told me it was OK to trash Karoli and C&L– see Neb’s response

          • QueenSpiffy

            ok

          • Edwin

            This is when Ricki said, “We love you Edwin.” Then I left the room and she said to NEB let’s ban him. Then Ricki says, “He’s a pos”…… and I came back in the room and saw. I don’t have the 10 or so lines before, but you’ll get the idea

          • Edwin

            one more

        • Dosido3

          I was reading along. You did super well. At least you said what I would have said…

          • QueenSpiffy

            I tried. RT says it was a valiant effort.

          • RTIII

            It WAS a valiant effort – I didn’t just _say_ that!

          • QueenSpiffy

            <3

        • Edwin

          I do not.

          • QueenSpiffy

            <3

        • Shohanna

          You couldn’t have, seriously, I have known about ricki’s bs from the start. I wondered why everyone was there, but I didn’t question as I had no clue how to make my own threads, or find anyone else. Bah I am ignorant and stupid. LOL

          I am so sorry!! *hugs**

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            *hugs the sho* πŸ™‚ it ok

          • Shohanna

            I am still sorry and ashamed. It won’t happen again, if I know someone is a known troll I amma say something. Maybe nicely but I will mention it.

      • Edwin

        Hey, Unka. Thanks for having us.

        • Its my pleasure to be able to read your always spot-on commentary and great links!

          • Edwin

            thx

    • Shohanna

      OMG SPIFFY!! I wondered where you disappeared to, no one would tell me!! /cry

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        lol that place is on lock down.

  • Nancy

    banned from The Banned Room!
    oh the irony!!!

    • cathyx

      Welcome Nancy, it was only a matter of time.

    • Nevin

      How do you know? My comment to the mod and Neb is still up.

      • cathyx

        upvote someones comment, then refresh. if it’s still there, then you’re not banned.

        • Nevin

          Thank you Cathy, but I don’t think that works. I’m banned from RS, but I can upvote people.

          • Nancy

            not if you refresh…the vote disappears
            you have to refresh to know for sure

          • Nevin

            Shit…

          • cathyx

            Let us know how it turns out.

          • Nevin

            I don’t have the energy to see if I am banned.

          • Edwin

            you can find out some other time

          • Rich H

            As noted, just upvote and refresh. I’ll do it. I’m sure as hell not posting anything.

          • Nevin

            OK, I’m banned. I sent Neb an email telling him what I thought of him banning people.

          • Nancy

            lmao…oh?

          • QueenSpiffy

            Did it involve many symbols?

          • Nevin

            As a friend I would have done just about anything for Neb and he threw it all away.

          • QueenSpiffy

            *hugs*

          • Nevin

            Thank you Spiffy.

          • QueenSpiffy

            yw

          • Nancy

            that is very sad.

          • Nevin

            πŸ™

          • Annaleigh

            πŸ™ *hugs if ok*

          • Nevin

            Thank you Annaleigh.

          • Edwin

            πŸ™

          • cathyx

            The good news is, you now can join our new banned from the banned room club.

          • Annaleigh

            I’m banned too. Oh the irony, I was never banned from C&L but I got banned from TBR, lol!

          • QueenSpiffy

            yup

          • Rich H

            That’s pretty incredible.

          • Annaleigh

            Yep.

          • cathyx

            Welcome to the BFTBR club.

          • Annaleigh

            I finally earned my banning stripes, and on my birthday of all days! πŸ˜›

          • notisaidthepig

            Oh, HB, Annaleigh!

          • Annaleigh

            Thanks Piggy!

          • cathyx

            Your birthday? Well, happy birthday to you. And ricki and neb gave you a present and didn’t even know it.

          • Annaleigh

            Thanks Cathy, yes the sure did.

          • Edwin
          • Annaleigh

            Thanks Edwin! <3 Love the color!

          • Nancy

            really? sorry to hear that. I think they are seeing who is posting here and just doing a massive cleanse.

          • Edwin

            Fuck ’em.

          • Annaleigh

            It’s ok, and yeah, the title of the video on their latest post says it all, separating the wheat from the chaff indeed.

          • Nancy

            I saw that…telling. oh well.
            happy birthday!

          • Annaleigh

            Thanks!

          • 17

            Damn!

          • notisaidthepig

            Hi, Annaleigh. I’m sorry you were banned. I don’t get it. But what the hell do I know about anything? Oink!

          • Annaleigh

            Don’t be sorry, Piggy, it’s never a bad thing when you’re no longer part of what obviously was a toxic situation.

          • Edwin

            Hi, Annaleigh.

          • Annaleigh

            Hi Edwin.

      • Nancy

        cathy just answered that.

        • Nevin

          And I answered Cathy.

          • Nancy

            lol, I know…I always find it funny when people answer questions to me, lol…

      • QueenSpiffy

        Try posting again.

  • The Evening Open-Thread is up, for your posting pleasure!

  • 17

    All this banning is what happens when they find out you’ve been hatching nefarious plots to overthrow the reign of the Ruling Duo with a demented, vicious, sick little man with a hateful obsession such as myself. You’re all welcome.

    • Does that make you the Bernie Sanders of commenters?!? πŸ˜›

      • RTIII

        Traditionally, that’s been me – my moniker LONG before he decided to run…

      • 17

        Satan.

    • Edwin

      You must be in heaven today. πŸ™‚

      Let it be known, from this point forward I don’t give a flying fuck what either of those 2 cretins thinks.

      • 17

        I gotta woody πŸ˜‰

        • Edwin

          No doubt. Long time coming.

      • notisaidthepig

        Preach it, brother!

  • Edwin

    TBR at 99

    who will hit 100?

    • Nancy

      none of your cheerleaders!

      • Edwin

        the suspense is killing me

        edit: they made it (100 woo hoo), but it was a comment down thread– a mystery

        • Nancy

          lol…I don’t think anyone is playing.

          • QueenSpiffy

            Poor Occulus ;/

          • Nevin

            I don’t know why you were banned. You told them you were Switzerland.

          • Dosido3

            Whenever someone tries to be Switzerland, it ends up being Belgium. Don’t ask me how I know.

          • QueenSpiffy

            So you’re saying I’m in charge of chocolate and waffles?

          • RTIII

            Crepes and the most wonderful Bier… πŸ˜€

          • QueenSpiffy

            cool :)(

          • 17

            Mmmm…choklit ice cream πŸ˜‰

          • QueenSpiffy

            lol

          • Dosido3

            And other peoples tanks…

          • Nancy

            I learned that one the hard way…it’s a fact.

          • QueenSpiffy

            Don’t know. No warning. I assume because I posted here.

          • RTIII

            If you read their reply, they basically said, “you can’t be Switzerland, you’re either for us or against us.”

            They’re about as intelligent as W.

          • Rich H

            I don’t know, he followed me and I went private shortly thereafter.

          • QueenSpiffy

            hmm

          • Rich H

            Exactly.

          • notisaidthepig

            Interesting…..

          • RTIII

            You mean he’s lost to us, I guess… Kinda sad. But I didn’t know him very well.

        • Nancy

          it just turned-Oculus was the 100th comment, but not for the crown

          • RTIII

            What, Neb stole it! :))

          • Nancy

            not much levity on that site tonight.

          • RTIII

            When I learned I was banned, I deleted the window and will NEVER go back for ANY reason.

            I didn’t violate the terms of service.

          • Nancy

            yes, I see where we will all do what we need to do with this one.

          • RTIII

            Kinda like losing a relative – we all mourn in our own ways, and should be left to morn in our own ways too! πŸ™‚

            GLAD you’re still around, Nancy. >:D<

          • Nancy

            exactly RT. thanks!

          • Nevin

            They lost the heart and soul of the blog. Ricki and Neb were barely there.

          • Rich H

            Maybe they’ll pull a dozen sock puppets each and go from there.

          • RTIII

            That’s what they’ll need to do to convince anyone to visit!

          • Nevin

            Well at least they won’t find someone to disagree with them.

          • Nancy

            too many good people left over the Plum issue. there was a large group and I don’t think it recovered from that.

          • Nevin

            I was not there for that.

          • Nancy

            I missed the actual event but when I did go bak after a few days of being away-it was awful to see so many gone.

          • RTIII

            For all Ricki and Nebs protestations about how it was all them, they had it exactly wrong; what made that place great were WE HERE, the commenters, the guests, the visitors, NOT the site owners!

            They learned NOTHING from the Huffintgon Post fiasco…

          • cathyx

            Exactly RT. Well said.

          • Nevin

            Ricki was insufferable last night and today.

          • Edwin

            Is Oculus in for the long haul?

          • Nancy

            he’s seeming to be really ok there.

    • RTIII

      Who gives a fuck?

      • Nancy

        lmao…

    • RTIII

      To match their former “crowning” rate, they’ll need to give crowns every 25 posts!

    • 17

      Garza

      • RTIII

        The sockpuppet wins!

  • RTIII

    As I was sharing over on the new page nobody has found yet…

    To all my beloved friends – who found it here and who I … WE … just lost on TBR, I say…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z26BvHOD_sg

    • towerofbabel

      That song make me verklempt. I’m that sentimental.

      • RTIII

        me 2

  • notisaidthepig

    The latest from The Humanist Report. Must say Bee is becoming insufferable with her $hillary support. Mike breaks it down pretty nicely.

    Comedian Samantha Bee Criticizes #BernieOrBust Protesters
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URvjJ8cqCAQ

    • QueenSpiffy

      I never really liked her. I thought she tried too hard on the Daily Show. I don’t think I should watch, because it’ll just pis me off.

      • towerofbabel

        Same here. Neve liked her that much.

        • QueenSpiffy

          Her voice kinda bugged me.

          • notisaidthepig

            I hear you on that one.

          • QueenSpiffy

            πŸ˜‰ I see what you did there.

      • notisaidthepig

        The best part of this video for me was getting confirmation that Mike is gay. He says as much. I’ve got dibs! He’s mine!

        • QueenSpiffy

          Damn lol.

        • Nevin

          Glad to see you have your priorities straight (no pun intended).

          • notisaidthepig

            Oh, c’mon, Nevin. Pun definitely intended. It’s funny. Oink!

          • Nancy

            lmao

        • Edwin

          I wasn’t wondering. πŸ™‚

          I used my gaydar gun
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0LvZ4JHo94

          • The_Fixer

            I think that’s something that I’ve wanted for a long time, it would make things so much easier πŸ™‚

            Hi, Edwin. I watched the implosion last night. It was horrifying, and as painful as it was for you, I think you wound up doing us a favor. I know you did for me, I was getting increasingly leery of the whole setup over there.

            Good to see you, sir. I salute your fighting spirit!

          • Dosido3

            Fixer! How you be?

          • The_Fixer

            Hey, Dosido! I be OK, just got home from work and having my nightly gruel while reading what the gang has to say.

            How are you doing?

          • Dosido3

            Hi Fixer! I am super confused by what went on in recent days. I noticed people leaving and I just figured they were busy or just preferred other sites. I’m really bothered by all the drama. I keep saying I just want to be informed and have discussions with fun people. I don’t need all the drama. Nobody does. And I don’t really see the point other than some people feel a need to silence other people which is unamerican. If we are observing TOS, then we have the right to our voice and our vote. That’s true for Trump people even! That’s why we have a first amendment! Not all speech is protected, but political speech sure as shit is!

          • The_Fixer

            Hey Dosido. You’re confused because you are thinking like a logical person. If you momentarily went a little crazy, it would all make sense.

            Drama? That’s why I stayed out of it. When you think about it, the writing’s been on the wall for a while now. It started with the smear and banning of 17, Cathyx got slammed for associating with him, then Unkawillbur got chased off because he had the audacity to offer to help and set up a proper blog with their involvement. Others left because although they were not banned, they didn’t like how 17 and others were being treated.

            Then the site owners set their sights on Edwin because he is outspoken they didn’t like that he was attacking Karoli Kuns. Odd, considering that they had all damned her in the past. After “Meltdown 2016”, they decided to ban anyone who commented here.

            Common thread? Control. They want control and to be thanked for it. I am not the first or only person to point this out.

            I am just grateful that we found a great place to land. While the big meltdown was happening, I was convinced that I’d never see any of the good people here ever again.

            As far as speech goes, well, they do have every right, no matter how foolish, to ban everyone. The first amendment only applies to the government. But it is horribly bad optics to ban people who were following the TOS, and of course, pisses people off.

            I hope that fills in a little background. I can tell you that everything that both 17 and Edwin say is backed up with evidence, and it is damning. That’s another reason that they want to try and silence anyone who agrees with and supports 17 and Edwin (along with the others who were unjustly chased away or banned).

            Good riddance to bad rubbish. I only hope that the few remaining people of good faith who are still going to the site don’t get raked over the coals like some of the people here did.

            And with that, I gotta get to work. Have a good day, see ya later!

          • Dosido3

            thanks, Fixer, and have a great day. I feel stupid for not seeing the mistreatment.

          • The_Fixer

            Just taking a little break at work, shhh, don’t tell the boss πŸ™‚

            Yeah, I feel stupid for not spotting it earlier. Of course, it’s painfully easy to see after the fact. But hey, we’re wiser now πŸ™‚

          • notisaidthepig

            Hi, Fixer. Glad you made it here.

          • The_Fixer

            I am glad you did as well. I was not commenting last weekend, just lurking, but knew you were going to be flying back home. Thought you might have missed out, but then I remembered that our Queen has a special hotline to her favorite pig and she would not let that happen πŸ˜‰

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad
          • The_Fixer

            Ha! That’s great!

          • Edwin

            Hi, Fixer. Thx.

          • The_Fixer

            You’re welcome. I am looking forward to us having an even better time here.

        • The_Fixer

          Ahem!

          Some of us here may want to wrestle you for him, ya know!

          Hi there, Noti, a pleasure to see you!

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Hey Fixer.

          • notisaidthepig

            I’ve been know to share…. Oink!

          • The_Fixer

            Oh good. I am not good at wrestling anyway!

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        I kinda liked her on TDS but this new one she’s gotten obnoxious.

        • QueenSpiffy

          well that’s cause she’s running her own gig now. heading to the new thread.

          • Edwin

            Hillbot-itis. And being a privileged rich white woman.

            There’s an article about her and her husband up in arms about integration at their kids’ school.

          • Nancy

            Canadian eh.
            how embarrassing.

          • Edwin

            I don’t ever feel that way (except about Celine Dion)

          • Nancy

            LMAO…
            Beiber, Nickelback

      • Annaleigh

        Me neither, or her husband.

    • Edwin

      I used to like her, but now I can’t watch (the witch) (sorry to real witches)

  • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

    So this is where everyone went.

    • Nevin

      Good to see you.

    • QueenSpiffy

      yup

    • notisaidthepig

      Hi, Daniel. Yep, almost everyone is here. Well, actually many are missing but we live in hope. Thanks again to Unka for welcoming us.

    • 17

      Welcome!

    • Nancy

      πŸ˜‰

    • Edwin

      Hiya, Daniel. So glad you are here. Happy Day.

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        Good seeing you as well your silver foxiness.

    • Dosido3

      Toad!

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        Hey you.

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        How are you doing?

        • Dosido3

          Confused. How are you?

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Just tired, long day at work. Nods about the confusion.

    • The_Fixer

      Hey, Daniel!

      I was wondering if you were in the loop and saw what happened last night. I did, it was ugly, and am glad that Unkawillbur is kind enough to extend his generosity to us.

      How ya doing?

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        Tired, nauseous the usual. Glad seeing you here though.

        • The_Fixer

          Well, consistency? Glad to see you here, too, sir. I didn’t see you at TBR last night, I presume you missed the implosion. I watched it, but did not participate. After doing some additional reading, I am glad that I didn’t involve myself.

          If you got some time, or the inclination, 17 has a chat spot with a lot of documentation on it. I was a little pissed that I was misled about him (17), always thought highly of him. After reading some of what he documented, perhaps it is best that it worked out the way it did. However, it is sad, and I feel terrible for Edwin, that abuse of him became the catalyst for change.

          But hey, better days are ahead!

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            I saw part of it, was hanging with Spiffy and Edwin. Though I got home late and then there’s my vertigo exercises which take a while and then tried to eat which ended badly. So that was my night.

          • The_Fixer

            Ah, well, watching it all unfold would not have helped. I was agog. Hope tonight is at least a little better for you. Nausea ain’t fun, though. We’ll keep your mind off of it. I’ll humbly request that our Queen Spiffy supply you with generous amounts of cat memes πŸ™‚

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            lol

            It is good too see you here.

          • The_Fixer

            Right back atcha, my friend.

    • Annaleigh

      Yay, you made it!

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        Heard you got banned, the nerve.

        • Annaleigh

          Yup.

          • The_Fixer

            Wow, I never expected that. But I never expected a lot of things that went on over there.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Annaleigh was a model poster, that is just ridiculous.

      • Dosido3

        Shit! When did everybody get banned FFS??!!!

        • cathyx

          Have you?

        • Annaleigh

          Today, from the looks of it. One big purge of TBR.

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        It’s your birthday?! Another August baby.

        • Edwin

          Do tell. Coming soon?

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            It’s this month, that’ll all I’ll say.

          • notisaidthepig

            Thanks for the reminder, Toad! πŸ˜‰

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Grumble grumble, now you and Nancy know the date.

          • Edwin

            I’m like that too, but I also don’t like if everyone forgets my birthday.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            People never care about mine so I just don’t tell.

          • Edwin

            πŸ™

            we will care

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Thanks, but it’s just a lifetime of it, so it doesn’t even come to mind.

          • Nancy

            awe…you have us now! we will all care!

          • Annaleigh

            We care. πŸ™

          • Nancy

            secret is safe with me!

          • Edwin

            another August baby??

          • Nancy

            no-September the 7th…
            60 (fucking) years old…60!!!!
            when in the hell did that happen?

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Still a babe though.

          • Nancy

            thanks Hon!

          • notisaidthepig

            Nice.

          • Nancy

            right? he know how to treat a girl!
            πŸ˜‰

          • cathyx

            I’m sorry Nancy, that’s gotta sting.

          • Nancy

            it’s amazing to leave my 50’s…I am seriously shocked about this.

          • cathyx

            I can imagine, i know i will be that way too. i don’t have much longer myself.

          • Nancy

            it’s such a surprise in some ways.

          • The_Fixer

            Oh, Nancy, I passed that mark 2 years ago, and yes, it is a sobering threshold to cross. But I decided that I was not gonna take it lying down. Or at least not lying down much 😐

            You get used to it, and get to appreciate that you’ve gotten smarter as a reward for having lived 60 years.

          • Nancy

            I have no idea what it will feel like-the 50’s were great…so far all I am seeing in the last few months is a great deal of loss and heading into more as the days go by.
            I will be interested to see how this pans out! thanks for the encouragement. I am happy that you are doing well.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Are you going to run out with a 20 year old? πŸ˜‰

          • Nancy

            lmao…oh if you only knew Daniel!

          • The_Fixer

            Yes, the loss is the tough thing. However, it makes me treasure those who are still around.

          • Nancy

            for me it’s not so much people-although my daughter will be going away-loss of other things…

          • The_Fixer

            It’s the progression of life. That fact doesn’t make it easier, but it’s the only way you can look at it because there’s not sense in wallowing in sorrow or trying to turn back time.

            Don’t worry, we’ll kiss it and make it better πŸ™‚ xoxo

            There. Feel better?

          • Nancy

            awe thanks…I will manage to get through it-I have managed much else in my life. like you say-given time…

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Hugs Nancy.

          • Nancy

            thanks Daniel!

          • Edwin

            Don’t you think I should know this stuff? How long has it been?

          • Nancy

            right?! (sigh)

          • Edwin

            Aha! I think you know. (remind us, m’kay?)

        • Annaleigh

          Yup! Happy birthday to you too! πŸ™‚

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Mine’s later this month.

  • notisaidthepig

    I’m on the evening thread as well…..I’m just saying!

    • The_Fixer

      Such a busy pig!

      • notisaidthepig

        Oink!

        • The_Fixer

          I knew that was coming πŸ™‚

  • The_Fixer

    Hey, does anyone have outside contact with Taliesen? I don’t have any means to contact him, but I kow he posts on other sites. If anyone knows where to find him, it would be very cool to have him here. Otherwise, we’ll have to send out a search party.

    • Nevin

      Sorry, no. I can still post at Alternet and will keep an eye out for him.

      • The_Fixer

        Hi, Blue. Yeah, I can, too, but never hung out there. Will make it a point to check there, though.

        How’s your night?

        • Nevin

          Night is better than last night. Glad to see you were here.

          • The_Fixer

            Glad to see you and everybody else who has made it. And doubly happy that we haven’t got the Anvil of Craziness hanging over our heads πŸ™‚

          • Annaleigh

            Yep, it’s a relief. After 17 let me know what was going on, I stayed there for everyone else while not treating Ricki or Nebdem badly or letting on that I knew there were problems. But there was a big fat elephant in the middle of the room. Glad that we’re all open and free now.

          • The_Fixer

            Yeah, I was very wary after a while, even when I was not fully aware of what was going on. I saw people get ripped on for no good reason, and it made me very cautious. I forget who it was, but she went off on somebody who she claimed was neglecting her blog partner by not answering his replies to their posts. Jeez, sometimes it’s tough to keep up with replies, especially when posts came as rapidly as they used to over there. I never get upset about such things, and was amazed that someone cold be so outright childish about something like that.

            Glad we moved to a place without egshells all over πŸ™‚

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            That was Cathy.

          • The_Fixer

            Cathyx or Cathy our freshly-60 babe?

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            CathyX.

          • The_Fixer

            Thought so. I did not hang on the same sites that she did, so didn’t know her and never really got a chance to do so as she popped in, got verbally assaulted, and then (wisely) left. I do remember a lot of people were pleased to see her, and I figured she was OK.

          • 17

            Here’s another interesting fact about the attack on Cathy by Ricki: it wasn’t about replies to Nebdem’s comments at all. Ricki attacked Cathy because Cathy and I were friends at Spiffy’s Chatzy room. It’s that simple. Everything you think you know about TBR is a lie. Ricki’s entire life is a lie. Read the chats in the Woodshed…Ricki’s hatred of Cathy because of her association with me is documented…in Ricki’s own words.

          • Nancy

            the depth of crazy in this situation is tragic.

          • 17

            My wife was afraid of her. She didn’t know what to expect.

          • Nancy

            right out of a movie.

          • The_Fixer

            I was particularly horrified that she harassed you by phone, and brought your wife into this. That’s demonic.

          • The_Fixer

            I am not a mental health professional, as you are, but I don’t think I need to be to know that there are some serious mental health problems there.

            And it is truly tragic, both for the people who have suffered because of her and for her. I can’t imagine what it’s like for her immediate family. My mother was a little too close to the edge, so I have an inkling of what that’s like. It’s not fun.

          • Nancy

            that’s why I couldn’t get into what as in 17’s collection. she’s a real person that I have spent a few hours with and it’s different than having a client. this is where I would go to get away from the job stress!
            sorry about your mom-it’s difficult for everyone when it’s so close.

          • The_Fixer

            Understand, some times you have to shut it off for your own well-being.

            Yeah, my mom’s been gone for more than 20 years, and I have put it all into perspective by now. She did the best she could under difficult circumstances and nothing can change the bad stuff, but you can’t drive yourself crazy over the unchangeable.

          • Nancy

            yes, that’s so true Fix. it’s all there for a reason and to not get too caught up in it all requires strength.
            mental health issues are so far reaching-we all seem to be impacted in varying degrees by it.

          • The_Fixer

            And how!

            I used to hang around a blog that primarily was centered around literature, but every year the regulars spilled their guts about the dreadful things they had grown up with. Things like alcoholic or addicted parents, abuse, neglect, you name it. It was horrifying to read. But it did teach me that a lot more people than you cold ever imagine are touched by mental illness, and there are a great many people who have had it worse than I ever did.

          • Nancy

            ahhh gotta love perspective eh?!
            does wonders for the soul…

            just sent NotReveen a post letting him know where we are-hopefully he’ll join us!

          • Annaleigh

            The situation kind of reminded me of back when I used to post on a message board for a favorite band of mine. Lead singer had dysfunctional messed up childhood, dealt with drug and alcohol addiction, so it would surprise no one that a lot people on the board had similarly messed up backgrounds (I’m one of them). There was a really nice guy on the board I talked to sometimes in instant messenger, but he was struggling with alcoholism. He eventually drifted away from the board because he could flip out when she was drinking…I remember one night in instant messenger I had to tell him I couldn’t talk right then because at the time I had a wireless battery powered mouse for desktop and it desperately needed to be charged (I got me a standard mouse after this incident, it was already annoying without this happening). But he’d been drinking, didn’t believe me, and so he went on a tear and I couldn’t respond since the battery had gone out. Later I had to tell him I was going to have distance myself because I’d had seen enough of that behavior from my dad (who also was an alcoholic).

            Eventually, and I was sad for him, he’d tried to get sober, was doing well, it got the attention of the lead singer, but when he relapsed he was embarrassed that he’d been so public about trying to get sober so he was around less and less. Sad, I hope he eventually got to a better place in life.

          • The_Fixer

            I didn’t get that far in my reading. Another great lie she told was that you were kicked out of Queen Spiffy’s chat room, I think she said that Spiffy was creeped out by you. I can see that it was a lie – you and Spiffy are both here. That wouldn’t be the case if what she said was true.

            Prolific with the lies, isn’t she?

          • 17

            I WAS banned from Spiffy’s Chatzy room. It was a mutual agreement with a twist. Ask me another time and I’ll explain it.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            o_O

          • The_Fixer

            OK. I have a feeling what that may have been about – probably done to appease her, or to protect Spiffy, or both.

    • notisaidthepig

      His name has come up but, I for one, have no way to get in touch with him. Hoping he finds his way here somehow….

    • Nancy

      I do…

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        yay

        • Nancy

          just FB message’d him…he’s not around at the moment but he’ll get it.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Crazy aussies and their time zones πŸ™‚

          • Nancy

            right? love him anyway!

          • The_Fixer

            Great! He’s a cool dude and I know he really liked hanging out with everybody. Thanks!

          • Nancy

            thanks for the reminder…I was meaning to post to him all day!

          • Annaleigh

            Note to self: send DM on Twitter to SmotPoker as soon as I get back to my room…

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Poor guy, hope he’s ok.

          • Annaleigh

            Me too.

          • Nancy

            good move!
            too are travelling again…did I see that last night?

  • Edwin

    at 103 comments

    some days there were that many comments when I got up to make a coffee and returned

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      I know.

      • Edwin

        I couldn’t read fast enough some days. Take a pee and there are 400 new comments.

  • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

    A recent extension of UK copyright for industrially manufactured artistic works represents “a direct assault on the 3D printing revolution,” says Pirate Party founder Rick Falkvinge. The UK government last month extended copyright for designs from 25 years to the life of the designer plus 70 years. In practice, this is likely to mean a copyright term of over 100 years for furniture and other designed objects.

    “Moving furniture design from a [design right] to copyright law means that people can and will indeed be prosecuted for manufacturing their own furniture using their own tools,” Falkvinge claims.

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/08/uk-copyright-extension-designed-objects-3d-printing/

  • Nancy
    • towerofbabel

      I was “Fucked on by Geo” our little hooligan who turns out to be a Bernie-Bro and was trashing the basement, throwing chairs and being an all around condescending purity troll.

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