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ace of spayeds“The Kitten Covers” is a great tumblr full of some of the most fantastic, kitteny album cover Photoshops. Check it out!

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  • RTIII

    First!

    • Nancy

      morning RT!

      • RTIII

        How’s the nanster?

  • RTIII

    Last night I had a lot of lucid dreams, many of which involved kittens! ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Mine were not so lucid, and involved giant spiders, black and yellow ones, 4 feet tall.

      • RTIII

        WOW! Hope you had a vorpal blade or Sting! ๐Ÿ™‚

        • I remember the spiders and not being scared, but that’s all. So, I’m guessing I had some kind of defense. LOL.

  • Nancy

    this is my new favourite guy right now-Ozzy Man Reviews.
    I usually just post the FB videos, but he’s also on youtube…
    makes me laugh every time-here’s his latest
    https://www.facebook.com/ozzymanreviews/videos/1117947814907751/

    • RTIII

      …Just letting you know my latest news: As I posted in the previous (then-current) thread an hour ago… …I got an email from the Deputy Campaign Manager for the Stein / Baraka campaign saying that I’m in the running for the position of Director of CA operations. She says that there were a many candidates who applied, many with awesome resumes, and I apparently made the first cut.

      I shouldn’t get either too excited about it because there were so many who applied, nor should I expect them to be very quick at culling through all the apps. After all, it took them since Saturday to get this far! … If I make the second cut, they’ll be calling me for an interview.

    • Rich H

      The Sky Slide outside one of L.A.’s tallest buildings.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9BUkTyInzo

      • Nancy

        so funny! thanks for this!
        “I hope this thing is like sex-real fast!”

      • notisaidthepig

        That was funny!

        • Rich H

          I wouldn’t do it. I’ve got a thing about heights too.

          • notisaidthepig

            Same here. No way, Jose!

  • Nancy

    morning!

  • The_Fixer

    We are so blessed to have not one, but two political parties that function as disinformation machines. Here’s from the Fox/Republican side:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/11/too-good-to-check-sean-hannitys-tale-of-a-trump-rescue/

    Hannity got busted on this one.

    • notisaidthepig

      All they do is lie.

      • The_Fixer

        But…But… They’re so good at it! (Not really, they seem to get caught at it a lot!)

  • towerofbabel

    Left of Eden, Shohanna, and Kristin are all at TBR. How can they be rescued? I don’t think I’ve been banned there. What should I do?

    • Nancy

      lol…Sho has an open profile I think.. I know someone said they had contacted her. the other two I am not sure how to get to them as their profiles are private. you could chance posting the link to here-and certainly get banned!
      morning!

      • Nevin

        Neb and Ricki are watching the thread like a hawk. Oculus posted to Smot a link to here and with 3 minutes it was gone.

      • 17

        I got 2 messages to Sho.

        • notisaidthepig

          Thanks!

    • MeanValueTheorem

      LoE comments on AN sometimes, you can holler at him there.
      I hope Shohanna and Cal, NR and Kreskin find their way here eventually.

      • notisaidthepig

        Hi, MVT! Missed you. So happy to see you here.

        • MeanValueTheorem

          Hey Cerdito! I saw your departure at the other place and was relieved to see you here. Though I didn’t comment for a while I did visit and people watch quite a bit. ๐Ÿ˜€

          • notisaidthepig

            Smdh about that other place. Happy to reconnect. Oink!

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Yeah. Real disappointed over here.
            Good to see you guys though ๐Ÿ˜€

    • RTIII

      If you’re posting here, and you are, as proven by others already, you’re likely banned there, even if you didn’t violate the terms of service.

      To find out WITHOUT posting there, up vote a specific comment, then refresh your browser. If the up-vote survives the refresh, you’re NOT banned, if the upvote goes away, you’re banned.

      …If you are NOT banned, please watch the thread there and when you see one of our friends who we are trying to attract here, please swoop in and post to them a link here – and then please TELL US you did so so that nobody else risks their banning for the same person… You’ll almost certainly be banned after doing that! We need to “keep our powder dry” for when we need it most! ๐Ÿ™‚

      • towerofbabel

        Thanx

  • The_Fixer

    Funny how some troglodytes still find it acceptable to insult someone by calling them gay:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/philippines-leader-calls-us-envoy-gay-prompting-summons-061705337.html

    It appears that the Philippines has their very own Drumpfo der Clown.

    • notisaidthepig

      Glad I don’t live there anymore!

  • notisaidthepig

    Good morning, everyone.

    • Nancy

      yes, it is!!
      morning.

      • notisaidthepig

        Hi, Nancy!

  • Rich H

    Excellent link. My favorite? Nilson Schmilson.

  • notisaidthepig

    Injecting Radical Politics into the Machinery: Ajamu Baraka

    http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Injecting-Radical-Politics-into-the-Machinery-Ajamu-Baraka-20160803-0023.html

    โ€œSince the U.S. is a colonial state with the reality of colonized peoples and various ethnic groups, the transformation of that society is going to require developing a program and approach to politics that is multi-national, multi-ethnic…and that has to be grounded in working class perspectives,โ€ Baraka said.

    • Brother Baraka, telling it like it is!

      • notisaidthepig

        Indeed.

    • notisaidthepig

      Human ingenuity is endless!

    • 17

      Hillarious!

  • And of the right!

    Hillary Clinton is the Dick Cheney of the left

    Both have been in politics forever. Cheney was White House chief of staff under Gerald Ford, and like Clinton, he has been in and around the White House in some capacity for more than 20 years. In those years, both have racked up their fair share of scandals. Both Cheney and Clinton are hawks, who got into the president’s head to push an ill-conceived foreign adventure in the Arab world.

  • I’d like to be able to say, “YAY! Bernie is still working for us!” But, the truth is, he’s just pursuing a personal vendetta, here, and is as much of a functionary of the Democratic party as he’s been since he chose to endorse the hard-Right turn the Democratic party has taken.

    Bernie bucks keep pouring in for Wasserman Schultz rival Canova

    Sandersโ€™ campaign told the Miami Herald on Wednesday that it has helped raise more than $637,000 since May 22, when the Vermont senator and former Democratic presidential candidate began asking supporters to chip in for Canova.

    • notisaidthepig

      Bernie is in the rear view mirror now.

  • MeanValueTheorem

    Obama to Reinforce the Militarized Police Occupation of Black America

    This was not simply a โ€œsurgeโ€ in militarization of the police; Obama escalated the war against Black and brown communities by several orders of magnitude. Based on these numbers, Obama is the biggest domestic war hawk in the history of the United States โ€“ bigger than Bush, Clinton and all his predecessors since the genesis of the Black mass incarceration regime in the late Sixties.

    Not satisfied with deporting more undocumented immigrant workers than any president before him, Obama has opted to break records in policing black and brown citizens as well.

    • It’s just revolting. Proving, yet again, that skin color is no final arbiter of a person’s capability to be a racist…

      • 17

        I’m not convinced it’s a “Black V White” thing. I still think it’s more a “Wealth v Poverty” thing.

        • MeanValueTheorem

          Those two things are inextricable in U.S. politics/economics.

          Capitalism requires that there be an underclass. When the system crashes unpredictably as it always does, the rich and powerful can always direct the resulting rage of the (majority of the) working/middle class toward the scapegoat and away from the business class responsible for such crashes. In the U.S. we have several underclasses.

          • 17

            You know it. Glad you’re back with us, MVT.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            good to be here 17. ๐Ÿ˜€

      • MeanValueTheorem

        People of color can exact actions that build upon white-supremacy. White-supremacy, or any other system of systemic oppression almost requires the assistance of people that are categorically oppressed. In the U.S. we devised the “talented-tenth” elitist culture that creates turncoats such as Obama.

        • Dosido3

          We were watching a PBS thing on JFK last night. There was a quote from MLK about how moderate whites are more interested in order instead of justice. It really caught my ear. Still true today.

    • Dosido3

      It’s shocking. This is akin to McCain’s betrayal of his natural affinity group, the vets.

      • MeanValueTheorem

        Given this pattern I expect HRC to oversee the repeal of reproductive rights.
        She’s already tapped a pro-life democrat for VP. She’s already stated that she is open to considering further restrictions on abortion. I wouldn’t be surprised if her SCOTUS picks fuck us over a la Casey v. Planned Parenthood of PA times ten.

        We’ll see.

        • Dosido3

          Don’t. I. Know. It. That comment would earn you the wrath of a dozen Hilbots anywhere else. I know because I have the scars to show for it.

          And hi! Really missed you. I figured you found a different thriving community to hang out and comment in.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            If I said those words at RS, C&L, DK, MJ et al you wouldn’t be reading these words right now. They’d send the only hit squad to my place and finish me off. lol.

            Missed you too. I couldn’t replace this pack of painted dogs if I tried. The liberal blogosphere is a parody of itself like never before.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Mean <3

        • RTIII

          …If she did that, it would TRULY put to shame all the idiots who are now saying that THE reason to vote for the bitch is because of the Supreme Court. . . And, frankly, that is the most common reason people give with deeply held conviction. Just screw them in the ass with a broom-handle and no Vaseline!

          • notisaidthepig

            Yikes! And….yep.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            A lot of crow is on the menu for the next 4-8 years.

          • notisaidthepig

            I somehow think they will continue to spin, spin, spin like fucking tops saying stuff like the Repubs are impossible to work with blah, blah, blah. Believe you me, $hillary wants TWO terms and she’s going to get them.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            I think you’re right. I’m hoping millennials are like my mother was when pops kept coming up with excuses and saying sorry.

            “You always have a story, always have an excuse, always break your promises. Estoy desilusionada contigo. Sorry this. Sorry that. You know what you are? A Sorry Motherfucker and you can take your sorry ass the fuck outa my life. No me interesa tus excusas baratas. Sacuda!”
            -Mom Dukes

  • RTIII

    One of the many things I have to do today is make at least one, at most two, small metal plates with a specific, not quite rectangular shape with a few holes drilled in it. These plates let me mount the most recent version of an Asus monitor to my six monitor computer display setup.

    What happened was that one of my six monitors died and the new replacement monitor has a slightly different mounting arrangement. Out of the 6 monitors, only two remain the old, original mounting style, which is why I say “at most two”! …Making two at a time is not much more trouble than making one, and then I’ll be ready when the last one goes!

    For the curious, here’s the full display setup, in operation.

    http://TodaysMarch.org/images/RT_6_monitors_1.jpg

    • Interesting! I’m actually in the early stage of needing to do something similar myself: I’m building a (wooden) frame for a bike-trailer for camping, and am going to need to put together some metal fork ends, droputs, likely to attach the bicycle times I’m planning on using.

      • RTIII

        I’m a good engineer, let me know if I can help with design or something. I’m particularly good at making light-weight, elegant designs that are durable, inexpensive and relatively easy to construct.

        • I may do that. I know the tires themselves will support 220lbs, so with the right mounts, I should be golden for some serious Hobo’ing, if I choose (have a support-leg design in mind, for when the trailer isn’t under tow, to use it as a camper with both my weight and the tow-weight on it.)

          Looking at something like this, but a bit more sturdy…

          https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/83/1d/8b/831d8bab3ac42c89e54284e212f75df0.jpg

          • RTIII

            The most light-weight solution would involve a metal frame. If you do it out of wood, it’ll be too heavy and bulky or it will be flimsy and not durable. BUT, wood and metal can be blended for an even better design because wood has attributes metal doesn’t and the two can complement each other; use metal at the stress points and to transmit forces longer distances with light weight and durability.

          • Unfortunately, I simply don’t have the funds or welding expertise to use an extremely lightweight metal frame. I’m certainly going to reinforce the wood frame with metal at the stress points (as well as a doweling system), and the towing arm/attachments will be metal, but for cost and ease of assembly, it’s gotta be wood.

            I’m looking at, MAX $200 for everything, the frame and wheels (20″) as well. I can do that comfortably using 2x1s. I won’t use any framing for the top as dual layers of coroplast are incredibly strong, for my purposes and lightweight as all get out. Plus they’re free, right after elections. ๐Ÿ™‚

          • RTIII

            Don’t forget that the towing yoke MUST be able to rotate on the longitudinal axis. It’s also great, but not absolutely necessary, that it be able to pivot on the horizontal axis, such that the bike’s frame and the trailer can be at different orientations, left / right. …Perhaps I could fabricate this part for you, the whole towing yoke, no charge, but you cover shipping and send me the basic yoke part you want to start with or you cover the cost of my buying one locally. …I’d think a used but good condition front axle fork would be a great starting point…

            Also, some bike frames have anchors already forged, brazed / soldered, or welded in behind where the rear axle mounts, and some don’t. If you choose a tow-bike that has such an anchor already fabricated in, that’s an important good step in keeping costs down and durability up! In such case, I’d need the details of it to make sure the tow-yoke mounts in easily. … MY preferred design would “echo” the mounts, allowing additional accessories to be mounted, too, such as a rear basket…

          • Oh yeah, super familiar with the needs of a yoke. Been shopping trailers for likea year. Already have a nice, homemade rubber/spring based mechanism, but have $30 assigned in my budget to buy one of these:

            https://www.amazon.com/Sunlite-Trailer-Hitch-Only-Complete/dp/B00B136ZCM/

          • RTIII

            That design won’t work for you – or won’t last: it won’t bear the “tongue weight” that your trailer will place on it – presuming your first image is the design you want. Your design will need to provide load-bearing forces to the rear tire of the tow-bike. The load will depend on what you have in the trailer and how it’s loaded in, but it would be foolish to presume it would remain near zero. This load-bearing property is exactly why the yoke used in the image you first showed goes to BOTH sides of the tire – and that is a good design!

          • we’ll have to talk some more, apparently. ๐Ÿ˜€

          • Nancy

            what a cool system…love it!

    • The_Fixer

      If they were CRT monitors, you could probably get a nice tan from a setup like that!

    • 17

      Which one’s for porn?

      • The_Fixer

        Ha! Silly question – they’re All for porn!

        • RTIII

          I like to think of them as multi-purpose! ๐Ÿ˜‰

        • notisaidthepig

          That’s what I was going to say!

    • RTIII

      For those who are interested…

      …I designed and fabricated these stands and did so because firstly I couldn’t find any 6 monitor units to buy commercially, but also because what was available was priced in the insane category of pricing!

      These units are based on inexpensive, nominally 1″ galvanized water pipe (which is really more like 1 3/4″ in outside diameter). They’re threaded with normal 1″ pipe thread on one end. On that end they’re threaded into inexpensive metal plates designed to mount water pipe to a flat surface. These were < $5 each at the local hardware store, 3 required, one per pair. The vertical pipe was also cheap, maybe a little over a dollar a foot. Mine are just over 2' tall.

      The monitors attach to the water pipe via an also dirt-cheap, common hardware store galivanized "U-bolt". I don't recall the threaded shaft diameter but the nuts take a 1/2" wrench. I THINK they're nominally 2" u-bolts with the standard 3" depth. Again, these were on the order of $2 or thereabouts each – one per monitor.

      The u-bolts attachment to the monitors are the only parts that took some specialized work – welding – but the design is very simple. There's just a flat metal plate with holes for the u-bolts that's tall enough to support the bracket that comes with the monitors. To add to the strength, I made some fingers out of flat bar stock that I welded on at 90 degrees so that ALL of the screws that come with the original mounting stand have a place to go! NO threading required! Instead, the original screws go through my metal parts and into the original stand’s provided mounting points.

      Originally, that was it! The original mounting has a pivot up / down, so I didn’t have to add that. However, the new monitors have a different size mounting, so the easiest way to accommodate them were the plates that I talk about above – just flat plates!

      So, there you have it! Simple, cheap, easy to make! Total cost was probably less than $20 per monitor pair, or $60 in all. And, this setup gives you FULL adjustment capability – height, rotation, and tilt! Many of the store-bought solutions don’t do that, and they cost around $200 per monitor or thereabouts!

  • Dosido3

    If you need a laugh…
    https://youtu.be/DBKXG4LTaEE

    • Nancy

      isn’t he hilarious? man oh man, I am just in stitches!

      • notisaidthepig

        I didn’t need to see that gymnast’s leg twisted in the wrong way! Oink!

        • Nancy

          I know-I was on his site at youtube yesterday and saw it…it was awful!
          I knew to look away today!

        • Rich H

          I’ve had way too many injuries myself, I can’t ever watch that stuff.

          • Dosido3

            Watch the diving one…it’s funnier. I posted the Olympic one because it was more topical.

        • Dosido3

          You were warned!

          • Nancy

            like a train wreck-can’t look away!

          • notisaidthepig

            Was I? Missed it. Oink!

          • Dosido3

            You might like this one better. ROFLMAO. no one gets hurt.
            https://youtu.be/PbVb6y4HHT8

          • Nancy

            thanks for saving me the trouble…
            hysterical!

          • notisaidthepig

            Winner, winner, chicken dinner! That was hysterical.

          • Dosido3

            I believe I can fly!…..

          • notisaidthepig

            Been there. Done that.

          • Dosido3

            Haha! ๐Ÿ˜€

      • Dosido3

        Have you seen the diving one? Omg. My stomach hurt from laughing so hard!

        • Nancy

          posted it here yesterday…it’s so funny-I laughed all dam day!

    • Rich H

      Did you catch the Ukrainian gymnast’s protest? I can’t find a video or mention of it anywhere.

      • notisaidthepig

        Nooo…..

      • Dosido3

        Yeah. That’s the spirit…the ultimate “fuck you IOC. How do we know these bars won’t collapse as soon as we step on the mat?”

        • Rich H

          Odd, I had to find a link on business insider and not youtube, espn, or anywhere sports related.

  • notisaidthepig

    So interesting:

    Non-violent grass roots reform and Democracy
    http://zacherydtaylor.blogspot.com/2016/07/dnc-describe-wink-and-nod-method-for.html

  • notisaidthepig

    Just registered! Hope I get a ticket. And, of course, I will report back.

    https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/763782782728359937

    • notisaidthepig

      That was fast! Yay!!!!

      • Nancy

        got one?

        • notisaidthepig

          Yes.

          • Nancy

            oh nice!!! our “man on the ground!!”

          • notisaidthepig

            I want a picture with Stein!

          • Nancy

            I bet she’d love that…

          • notisaidthepig

            Everyone should take a picture with me. Oink!

          • Nancy

            such a modest pig-I love that about you!!!
            but yes, you are correct!

          • IMPOed

            ;>)

          • Nancy

            hey!!! hello there!

          • IMPOed

            Hi Nancy!!
            So this is where all my friends went to!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            DUCKIE! *Tacklehugs*

          • IMPOed

            SPIFFYEEE!!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            :3

          • IMPOed

            Working?

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Not yet. should be hearing back from a couple places I interviewed at soon though.

          • IMPOed

            Is this your new home, I will bookmark if it is.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yup

          • IMPOed

            I’m “working” so I will be in and out… ;>)

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            lol naughty duckie.

          • IMPOed

            ;>D

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            ๐Ÿ˜‰

          • Nancy

            we took a wee detour but her we are. I have been banned for all the major sites so it was impossible to get in touch with people. so great to see you here…missed your bright, happy AV!

          • IMPOed

            Whoa, you must have gone “all out” LOL.. ;>)

          • Nancy
          • SpiffyTheValiant

            you’ve been waiting to pull that one out agian lol

          • Nancy

            one of my faves!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            <3

          • MsPythia

            Hi Duckie! ๐Ÿ™‚

          • IMPOed

            Quack.. ;>D

          • MsPythia

            ๐Ÿ˜€ Glad you’re here!

          • IMPOed

            Thank you! Hope you all have been well?

          • MsPythia

            I’m doing great — and I do think we’re all liking it here in Unka’s Blog very much! Hope you’ve been doing well too?

          • IMPOed

            I am thank you!

          • MsPythia

            Glad to hear! It’s been a long time since I saw your lovely glowing avatar!

          • IMPOed

            Likewise, were you banned all over too?

          • MsPythia

            Yes — RS, Alternet, C&L — and probably unknown others — wherever the Roxanne net can be thrown, I’m sure.

          • lindajoyous

            Hi IMPoed, good to see you! ๐Ÿ™‚

          • IMPOed

            Linda!! Another pleasure!
            How are you?

          • lindajoyous

            Doing good, my son is getting married this saturday! It will be his second marriage! ๐Ÿ™‚

          • 17

            Didn’t learn anything the first time?

          • lindajoyous

            I hope so 17, hope this marriage works out for my son!

          • IMPOed

            Ahh Lindajoyous!! ;>D

          • lindajoyous

            ๐Ÿ™‚

        • notisaidthepig

          Oh, god. What will I wear? Oink!

          • MsPythia

            Noti you’re so good looking you could buy old man’s clothes at Goodwill and make it look like a hipsters fashion statement. ๐Ÿ˜‰

          • notisaidthepig

            Ha, ha. You’re so sweet! (((a pig loves a compliment: oink!)))

          • Rich H

            I hear they’ll pick you if you dress like you’re going on Let’s Make a Deal.

  • notisaidthepig
  • notisaidthepig

    I love that Baraka has an earring. Very Shakespearean that (a la the Chandos portrait)

    • MsPythia

      He’s handsome.

      • notisaidthepig

        Smart and standing up for working people is DAMN sexy.

        • MsPythia

          Indeed. It’s the whole package.

  • notisaidthepig

    Is she EVEN capable of filling up a room?

    https://twitter.com/jcjohnson86/status/763790140921765888

    • MsPythia

      She stole the primary, and now can’t fill a room. Bernie won, and filled stadiums.

      • notisaidthepig

        smdh

      • Rich H

        Too bad he apparently didn’t want it.

        • notisaidthepig

          yep.

        • Dosido3

          Well…he loves his grandkids. Look what happened to poor Seth.

          • Rich H

            Wouldn’t surprise me at all.

          • MsPythia

            That’s a fair point. And the lawyer who served the DNC and Debs with papers at the end of July suddenly dropped dead in his apartment. The bodies are piling up it seems. You know, I used to think that sounded nuts, but now I’m not so sure…

          • Dosido3

            Absolutely chilling.

          • Rich H

            It’s totally normal. I have no enemies because they’ve all dropped dead. Isn’t it the same for everyone?

          • 17

            ..

          • Dosido3

            Of course…goes without saying.

          • MeanValueTheorem
          • Rich H

            Oh shit. Nice gandkids you’ve got there, it’d be a shame if something were to happen to them.

          • 17

            Hey, it worked for Bill on Lynch’s plane, didn’t it?

          • Nancy

            snakes on a plane

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Yeah.

            I can’t tell if she’s lording her once fertile womb over Sanders or just telling an old Jewish Man that he has no “real” family. Either way, she’s bound to have many firsts as our president, almost all will be cantankerous and cruel.

          • MsPythia

            Holy Shit. She is vile!

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Clinton is always one cup of Riesling away from showing the world her nasty side.

          • MsPythia

            I think it’s straight gin! ๐Ÿ™‚

          • MeanValueTheorem
          • The_Fixer

            Hillary: “Plymouth… It’s my Rock!”

          • MeanValueTheorem

            lol!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            <3

          • MeanValueTheorem

            <<<>>>

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            lol what’s that

          • MeanValueTheorem

            I think it’s a beating heart, not sure what your browser renders it as.
            OMG! What if the emotocon website I used is trying to ruin me with the Queen!!?!?!?1

            FML!!!!!!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            lols *cuddles the mean*

          • MeanValueTheorem

            “We didn’t land on Plymouth Rock! Rocks of ice landed in my Plymouth Gin! I told the fucking boy at the club that I take my Gin neat!”

          • The_Fixer

            Lol! And then she had him fired.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            She had him taken out back and buried in Bill’s most hated sand trap.

          • The_Fixer

            Yes, she had to do it with flair, and to send a message to any other uppity peons who dare make a mistake!

          • MeanValueTheorem

            She might bury the poor guy’s nuts on the golf course and sip her neat gin while the gofer K-Dog trained to eat meat gnaws away at his scrotum under ground. She’d do this in full view of the Club’s athletic facilities, sending a clear message to all those fuckers having pool membership, lest the get out of line.

          • MsPythia

            LOL! Hilarious!

          • The_Fixer

            Is that before or after she put a penny on his chest?

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Not sure I get that reference?
            Is that from a movie?

            I’ve been to funerals where they put silver dollars on the eyes.

          • The_Fixer

            It was used when the Mob wanted it to be known that they were behind a killing. It was a signal to others who may have thought about stepping out of line that they should watch their step.

            I thought it a natural thing, she’s part of a Mob-like system. Here’s a song about it, with lyrics (cause he sings it a bit fast):

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdALfXpYCLs

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Ahhh!

            Kinda like the end of that conversation that begins with a dead fish on your doorstep.

            LMAO! I don’t doubt it. I’m certain many examples were made of people after ’08 and motherfuckers fell in line this time around.

            Let’s see if that shit holds come November. She can’t ruin everyone’s careers…at least not before winning the presidency and passing the TPP.

          • The_Fixer

            Yeah, she’ll sure as hell try, though!

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Anyone who opposed her during this primary is already fucked. Royally. I expect the bloodbath to really commence after November. Even Trump is trying to lose to her.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Saw a yahoo headline, saying that trump said it’d be okay if he lost. he is trying his damnest to lose. only problem is hillary is reviled and people are dumb.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            She’s probably the hardest Democrat to lose against in history.
            I don’t think he wants the job. He’s never woken up before 12pm in his entire life.
            He has all the ambition of Caligula with severe erectile dysfunction.

            If the Republican party had a prayer left they’d can his ass and draft Kasich who’d destroy her in the General. Might be too late.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            What have you got against people who don’t wake up before noon ;P

          • MeanValueTheorem

            I. Am. Not. A. Morning. Person!

            But it’s always before noon somewhere. Ask Edwin!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            lol

          • MeanValueTheorem

            What happened?

          • Dosido3

            Seth (forget last name) was the DNC staffer who was killed in the street. It was called a robbery although nothing was taken from him. Assange claims Seth was the leaker (although I wonder how we can independently verify that).

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Wow.

        • MsPythia

          Yeah — pretty stupid to start a revolution if you’re not up for fighting all the way.

          • notisaidthepig

            Death threats against his family might be a mitigating reason. And, frankly, I’ll believe anything after what we’ve see already.

          • MsPythia

            Yes. I think so too.

          • Dosido3

            Well how would you feel if – after healing after losing to a young svelte gorgeous and cool black guy – you were now going to lose to an old grumpy white guy from one of the tiniest realms of our land. My own swelled head would explode of hormonal XX rageyness, so….

          • notisaidthepig

            Yep. $hillary wants it SO bad and there’s nothing short of a nuclear war that wipes us all out that will stop her from claiming the crown this time. We best get out of her way…..so we can trip her.

          • MsPythia

            She’s completely unlikable and phony to average people. It shows she’s been living in her bubble of sycophants too long that she expected everyone to fall in love, when we already rejected her once.

          • notisaidthepig

            Yep. And that’s not about to change. There’s just no going back to change the minds of more than 50% of voters on $hillary. She’s toxic.

          • Rich H

            Who knows what the real numbers were? Let’s face it, there’s only so many gender voters. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if she never received more than 30% of the vote (or less).

          • notisaidthepig

            That’s what I’m thinking. Bill won in ’92 with 43million and I think $hillary is going to top that. And by “top” I mean she is going to get even LESS than that. But she will claim victory. (See: Diebold)

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Just turned on the tv. She was scolding Trump for being afraid and mentioned some of our best Olympians. Saying if they were like Trump, they’d never come out of the lockerroom. Such pandering. People were lapping that shit up. Clapping like well trained seals.

          • Dosido3

            WTF wrote that shit?

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            huh?

          • Dosido3

            I was asking who HRC’s incompetent speechwriters were. really crappy analogies. actually nothing Hil can say would sound natural, so that’s a challenge right there. maybe I shouldn’t be so harsh.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            ohh

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Agreed.

            I don’t know about you but Clinton ooozes the kind of person you meet in front of a hotel and instead of saying “Hi” back at you she points to her luggage, says her room number, and walks away.

          • MsPythia

            Her voice is like broken glass scraping a chalkboard to me! Can’t even listen to her shouting at this point.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yup

          • MeanValueTheorem

            LOL!

          • RTIII

            Maybe he wasn’t prepared for the threats. Maybe he never figured our system was THAT corrupt. This is why it takes someone with no family to take certain jobs – like starting a revolution from inside an organization; harder to threaten.

          • Rich H

            I’m not sure he and Hillary thought he’d get that far.

          • MsPythia

            I don’t think he’s a sheep dog, although I’m aware others do since he’s chosen to endorse her. But for me the DNC link proved that they hated Bernie, and wanted to do anything they could to stop the movement that built up as a result of his campaign. Unfortunately for them, it was never him, it’s US.

          • Dosido3

            Yeah. And it’s not the moderators – love ya Unkawilbur – it’s the commentariat who make a blog great! :0. No wait, that came out wrong this blog is actually pretty cool and well constructed so there’s that too! Yuck, I don’t like how my foot is tasting today.

          • MsPythia

            ๐Ÿ˜€ Unka’s a good writer though! RT put up a great post too, have you seen it?

          • Dosido3

            yes and I believe RT’s is the first one I read. good job!

    • Rich H

      No! I was told it was because she likes to keep it on a personal level so she can listen to voters concerns. ROFL!

      • notisaidthepig

        Ha!

      • Dosido3

        Hahahaha. Really? Did David Brock tell you that? Because that is some pro level bullshit.

        • Rich H

          gcsc or gscshm or something like that, on Alternet. And yes, she’s full Brock all the way. The first time I had a go round with her was on a Ghostbusters thread (of all places) where she posted she was 10 years old when her father took the family to watch The Battle of the Bulge and she was upset (apparently enough to remember it 50 years later) that there were no women in the movie.

          It’s like, why did my parents bring me to see The Sound of Music and why is that damned woman singing all the time!

          • Dosido3

            i kind of get it. Why were there no Zulus in Battle of the Bulge? Burns me up.

      • The_Fixer

        I suppose it’s easy to keep it personal when you only have a dozen people on hand to hear you speak.

  • notisaidthepig
    • MsPythia

      I hope he has his own security detail there.

      • MsPythia

        Btw, has anyone heard from Snowden?

        • notisaidthepig

          Good question. No, but I think no news is good news where he is concerned. We would hear something FAST from Greenwald, methinks, if something went awry.

          • MsPythia

            Very worrisome that he’s not tweeting. He always tweets. I wonder if he’s in the hospital…

          • notisaidthepig

            I don’t follow Snowden. Is there a reason why he would be in the hospital?

          • MsPythia

            I don’t know why — but people do get sick… I just hope it’s not worse news.

          • notisaidthepig

            Same here. I think Snowden is a hero. Want him pardoned and back in the U.S.

          • Rich H

            I want him pardoned and as far away from here as possible for his own safety.

          • MsPythia

            Yeah, he’d probably meet with some sort of “unfortunate accident” if he came back.

          • MsPythia

            I think he’s a hero too! I also loved what Jill said about him — she’s out and proud in her defense of all the whistleblowers.

          • Nancy

            she said she’d pardon him and put him in her cabinet!

          • MsPythia

            I know — it would be nice to think of Snowden looking out for us. Clearly Obama and Clinton don’t know what internet security means.

          • Nancy

            they want to control it all

          • Rich H

            Exactly. I’m afraid of what will happen to our access to information once the Queen is installed.

          • Nancy

            it is frightening…they will no doubt try and shut it down.

          • MsPythia

            Hackers will always find a way around whatever they try to do though. Most of us would suffer, but you just know that some people would find a workaround.

          • Nancy

            that is what’s fuelling their need to enact law that will punish them with their lives.

          • MsPythia

            I totally agree. Assange said yesterday that Hillary requests daily updates about him — and that she always has. I wasn’t surprised to hear that. I’m sure she’d love to see him killed.

          • Nancy

            imagine what a threat he is to her-this is why i don’t trust the latest meeting with the Sweeds.
            nothing is going to b good about this.

          • MsPythia

            I know — and paired with the fact that Snowden is missing is kind of terrifying.

          • Nancy

            yup…the timing is too coincidental-as well as Chelsea Manning being in solitary for a “suicide attempt.”

          • Rich H

            Killed, drawn and quartered, more likely.

          • MsPythia

            His head on a pike will be kept inside a curio cabinet at her home in Chappaqua, NY as a trophy.

          • Rich H

            Except we’re not all hackers. Once hackers got their information they’d need a means to disperse it.

          • MsPythia

            Yeah — and I’m not sure they would want to.

          • MsPythia

            But not great at knowing how to do that — all they know is that they can’t let actual experts in on what they’re doing. Only people in their loyalty bubble are allowed in, but obviously not that savvy when it comes to top level security. Same with the DNC. Debbie hired that firm to do her bidding, but then it got out that they kept dropping the fire wall (likely intentionally) and then it all went to shit for them.

          • Rich H

            It all went to shit, but nothing happened and the Queen was installed.

          • MsPythia

            Yup — because luckily for them, they’d already bought off the media.

          • smkngman3

            No tweets since the fifth.

          • Nancy

            that’s not good.

          • MsPythia

            Hi Smokey! Yeah, that’s a long time.

          • smkngman3

            He never tweeted daily but this is strange.

          • Nancy

            especially given the last tweet he did put out.

          • MsPythia

            He tweeted at least once every few days as I remember. (I follow him on Twitter.) It’s very scary that it’s been that long, and that last tweet with all the numbers seemed to point to nothing good. I’m not sure where Greenwald got his info that all is well, but maybe he’s not saying anything more in order to protect him? I wish we’d hear something soon.

    • Dosido3

      I think this is more bullshit. TPTB are resurrecting the accusations to discredit him again given his current visibility.

    • Nancy

      I have such a crush on this man.

      • cathyx

        The ultimate badboy. (Sorry Edwin, he wins)

        • Nancy

          yup…he has it all!

  • notisaidthepig
    • RTIII

      YAY!

      • Dosido3

        Snort!

    • The_Fixer

      Wow, and that server did not have any kind of digital certificate. And the guy who set this up was making somewhere around $100K a year? Holy shit on a shingle, incompetence pays very, very well.

      • MsPythia

        Seriously! She was paying top dollar for total idiocy.

  • notisaidthepig
    • MsPythia

      That’s GREAT! Go campaign for Jill and Ajamu, Michael!

      • notisaidthepig

        He should.

        • MsPythia

          He would be good on the campaign trail!

          • Nevin

            I doubt he would vote for Hillary.

          • MsPythia

            Sounds like that, doesn’t it?

          • Nevin

            He’s stated in the past he couldn’t vote for someone that voted for the wars.

          • MsPythia

            Hi! You rang?

  • smkngman3

    “US drug agency declines to change marijuana’s strict drug designation”

    DEA will not remove drug from Schedule I list in decision that relied
    heavily on report saying marijuana has โ€˜no currently accepted medical
    use in treatmentโ€™

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/11/marijuana-laws-dangerous-drug-designation-us-government

    • The_Fixer

      Keeping it Schedule 1 is profitable for the Prison Industrial Complex. I am so tired of crookedness in this government.

      • smkngman3

        Obama is a prick and tool for Big Pharma.

        • The_Fixer

          You get no argument from me on that!

    • cathyx

      Big Pharma will never allow that.

    • MsPythia

      Mmmmhmmm! Don’t you just love these giant stinky piles of “Hope and Change?”

      • MeanValueTheorem

        Such BOLD progress no?

        • MsPythia

          Third Way Neoliberal Democrat Bait and Switch. But, but Obamacare!

  • smkngman3

    The brain washing continues!

    “U.S. House Democratic leader blames Russians for ‘electronic Watergate'”

    U.S. House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi on Thursday said the recent cyber attack on Democratic politicians was “broad” and that Russians were clearly behind the breach, adding that the damage was still being investigated.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-democrats-pelosi-idUSKCN10M1K7

    • cathyx

      I think the US should go to war with Russia. Just think how much a huge war will boost the economy.

      • MsPythia

        LOL! Hi Cathy!

        • cathyx

          And it will be a big team building exercise too. USA! USA!

          • The_Fixer

            Lol! You’re on fire today, Cathy!

          • MsPythia

            Calls for a little Oscar!

      • Nancy

        all those jobs!!!

      • Rich H

        If only Hillary voters are eligible for the draft.

        • Nancy

          or their children weren’t provided with unending deferments.

      • I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s just what Hillary wants. After all, the Oligarchs/Plutocrats sincerely believe there are too many Little People around for the “economy of the future” and that human population needs to be reduced drastically.

        • MsPythia

          Rather than deal with Global Climate Change, it’s just more efficient to kill off more people so they’ll be less fighting for the resources like food and water.

          • Nancy

            pays better too.

        • cathyx

          If we stay away from nuclear bombs, we could drag out the war for years. Just like we’re doing in the middle east. Just think of all the arms we will go through. Ka-ching!

          • Nancy

            and legs and faces and lives…

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Proxy Wars have been a favorite population control method of global superpowers since WWII.

          • cathyx

            Lower the population, but not by too much. They still need us to wash their cars, mow their lawns, and cook their food. But most importantly, pay our taxes so the government can give it to them.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Keep them grateful for what little humanity they have left after ravaging their nation with internecine war. Remove all consideration of land reform, worker rights, etc.

            That civil war in Colombia alone kept the cost of cocaine down tremendously for half a century.

          • Edwin

            I think that’s why they abandoned neutron bombs. Not because they looked craven and immoral, but because the longer the war goes on the more money there is to be made.

        • Edwin

          War is the biggest, surest money-maker for the 0.1%. It also gives gubbermint critters 100% power and authority to do anything. Last time they ended Habeas corpus in America (a big huge fucking deal) and barely anyone said Boo.

      • RTIII

        China’s economy!

      • MeanValueTheorem

        Oooh ooooh oooh! Can I get the job where we fish dead bodies out of the radioactive ocean!?
        Or the one where we burn Prague down to a crater!?

        I love Prague.

        • towerofbabel

          Could we put a magnetic shield over Prague? I love Prague too.

    • MsPythia

      Ugh. They seem to think if they keep screaming “The Russians, The Russians!!!” that we’ll forget about the fact that they stole the fucking primary, and are corrupt as can be.

      • smkngman3

        That is their intent, with the medias assist.

      • Nevin

        Question? Find me somewhere further down so we can edit our comments.

        • MsPythia

          Another thread?

          • Nevin

            Anywhere. I am emailing with Nancy. I’m sure you know what the subject is.

          • Nancy

            let’s go and flip it

          • Nancy

            flip it?

          • MsPythia

            Okay.

    • MeanValueTheorem

      Like the Vatican blaming the Dalai Lama for exposing their conspiracy to silence molested kids.

      The U.S., among other nations, have been meddling in the affairs of other governments since forever. Whatever Russia’s reasons, if they were responsible, and that’s a BIG IF, it won’t change the fact that the Democrats are running as thoroughly corrupt an operation as any, if not more.

    • RTIII

      At EVERY turn we need to point out: Nobody is disputing the CONTENT of the emails, so why don’t we focus on that?!

      • smkngman3

        No need to read them.

        They came from te Russians and they can’t be trusted!

        Look over there…………….

        • kreskin

          Exactly.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            “We are at war with Eurasia, we have ALWAYS been at war with Eurasia.”

          • smkngman3

            The old playground routine.

            Distract a kid while someone yanks down his pants.

    • kreskin

      Playing the American public like a G.D. fiddle.

      • MeanValueTheorem

        AYE!!!!!!!!!
        Look what the hyenas dragged in!
        Good to see you!

        • kreskin

          Oculus told me you guys were over here . Had no idea what had happened.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Yeah me neither until a day after the shit hit the turd fan.

            I knew about this place back when someone chewed Unka out for reasons I cannot understand.
            I’m glad most everyone’s here.

          • kreskin

            I remember that .

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Yeah it was shocking. I got the third degree for saying “Whoa”

          • Edwin

            Fucking nightmare. Those two are sick-twisted-fucks. We found out just i time.

      • lindajoyous

        Hi Kreskin. good to see you!

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          hey guys ๐Ÿ™‚

          • lindajoyous

            Hey Spiffy!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            <3

          • lindajoyous

            ๐Ÿ™‚

        • kreskin

          Good to see you , Linda. : )

      • 17

        Glad we got ya, Kreskin. Blame Edwin for everything.

        • Nancy

          lol, did you see that?!
          unbelievable. but, not surprising.

      • towerofbabel

        Kreskin! You live!

        • kreskin

          yep , still above ground.

      • Nancy

        hello! nice to see you!

        • kreskin

          Hi , Nancy !

      • Nevin

        If you read through this http://thebannedroom.tumblr.com/post/148632099167/announcement you will understand what happened at TBR.

  • smkngman3

    “Crude oil causes heart and skull deformities in haddock”

    Even brief exposures of the eggs of Atlantic haddock to low concentrations of dispersed crude oil can cause severe and usually deadly deformities in developing fish, an international research team has found.

    The findings indicate that oil spills at high latitudes could have serious impacts on some of the world’s most important fisheries, including those for haddock, cod and pollock.

    http://phys.org/news/2016-08-crude-oil-heart-skull-deformities.html

    • Rich H

      So I guess it’s a tossup, die from heat, starvation, or thirst.

    • towerofbabel

      If you’ve seen one haddock you’ve seen them all. Who needs food anyway?

  • smkngman3

    NO WE CAN’T!

    “Scotland just produced enough wind energy to power it for an entire day”

    Strong winds combined with low demand on a sunny summer Sunday help Scotland reach โ€˜significant milestoneโ€™ on path towards ditching fossil fuels entirely
    http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/scotland-wind-energy-renewable-power-electricity-wwf-scotland-a7183006.html

  • smkngman3

    “Ukraine Masses Troops on Crimea Border”

    Ukrainian residents are reporting that their nationโ€™s military is massing troops and heavy military equipment along the border with the Crimean Peninsula today, following reports from Russian
    officials of an attempted infiltration of the peninsula, which the Russians identified as a Ukrainian government incursion, and attempted terrorist plot. A Russian soldier and a member of the FSB security service were reported slain in that weekend incident.

    Details of the weekend incident are still emerging, but Russian officials reported gunfire, and having captured several of the plotters,who they suspect of being with Ukrainian intelligence, who were aiming to set up a spy network to attack infrastructure in the peninsula.

    Ukrainian military spokesman Andriy Lysenko confirmed the buildup, amid claims of Russian helicopters spotted inside Crimean territory. He added that Ukrainians โ€œshould understand that at any minuteโ€ a large-scale war with Russia could begin.

    http://theantimedia.org/ukraine-masses-troops-crimea-border/

    • kreskin

      Fucking idiots .

      • smkngman3

        Try RT.com.

        They were offline for a time yesterday and I’m getting “server not found”.

        • kreskin

          ???? I was there earlier , no problems. No problem now .

          • smkngman3

            Got it now but I tried earlier and got.

            Server not found

            Firefox canโ€™t find the server at http://www.rt.com.

  • smkngman3
    • Nancy

      …don’t be ridiculous-

  • MeanValueTheorem

    Wow just took a peep over at the old haunt and it seems OV got the boot for posting about this place. It isn’t a free world apparently. Talk about a strategy for failure. Can you imagine how fast places like DK would go under if they began to police where their regulars go on the goddamned web.

    Bananas.

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      If you post here, it’s an automatic ban as soon as they find out.

      • MeanValueTheorem

        Recipe for reducing your site to you and a mod having a public circle-jerk.

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          yup

      • towerofbabel

        So they have a list? And they are checking it twice.

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          something like that.

        • Nancy

          we are all naughty!

      • s k

        Is that why they named it the banned room?

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          lol i guess so.

    • Nancy

      it’s a purity thing

      • MeanValueTheorem

        Apparently.

        I feel like Groucho Marx on quaaludes: “I don’t wanna be in a club that wouldn’t have my member.”

        • Nancy

          try mushrooms…you’d get great visuals too!

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Oh I have. I lost all fear of death and made an e-Harmony profile.
            It’s what happens after the shrooms wear off.

          • Nancy

            lol, well aren’t you adventurous-I just hung out in a blues club and danced-a lot. for hours. and then went back the next Saturday!

          • MeanValueTheorem

            What I like about shrooms is that in the unlikely case you have a bad trip, just eat some pizza.

            MVT’s shroom rules:

            1) Hide all lighters and matches before doing them.
            2) Don’t climb trees, no matter how good those cookies the elves are baking in the tree smell.
            3) Steer clear of Strip malls
            4) Have ice-cream on hand
            5) NEVER Eat Brenda’s Shrooms without ASKING FIRST! She has a scary Halloween mask and she’ll get back to the dorm early and make sure you have waking nightmares for weeks.

          • Nancy

            hahahaha…oh such fun! I used to get them ground up in chocolate and covered in beautiful foils. best chocolate I ever had. I’d get them mailed to me for gawd’s sake and then sell them and eat a whole bunch. amazing that I never got caught.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Here in the land of the free if you get caught with a brown containing a gram of weed you’re typically charged for the entire weight of the brownie. I was forced to eat my shrooms in apple sauce.

          • Nancy

            they weren’t very tasty on their own!
            not sure what would have happened. that was 30 years ago. times were different and at the amount I would get-I am certain it would have been a trafficking charge.

          • Edwin

            Many moons ago my friends went out to BC shroom picking for a month and came back with a huge honkin’ bag of the things. 4 of us shroomed out every day until they were gone

          • Nancy

            such fun…that’s where I got mine from too.

          • Edwin

            the good old days

          • Nancy

            yup…they were!

    • towerofbabel

      “This is my blog. Get out and take all of your friends with you!”

      OK.

      • Nancy

        lol, but she said she was responsible for creating the community as well. wow, that is telling in itself. where is the community you created now?
        bizarre.

        • towerofbabel

          I never was actually invited. I just stumbled in following someone, Edwin I think, to see what interesting places they visited.

          • kreskin

            same here

          • towerofbabel

            It would be smart to establish a safe information dissemination site so that we can always regroup if it happens again. (Not saying it will with UNKA and this site.)

          • OculusVeritas

            Good idea….I think some people are already doing that.

          • Nancy

            many of us have exchanged emails for that purpose. it’s helpful because so many of us are banned from so many sites that it really makes it difficult to get in touch!

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Tower, I finally get one of the dozens of reasons you chose this handle. A tower provides foresight.

          • towerofbabel

            Or just desperation–not wanting to drift aimlessly on the internets. .

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Despair is the mother of invention!

          • Left of Eden

            Me, too. Heard about the place from MVT.

          • OculusVeritas

            I thought I fell down the rabbit hole

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Hey, Left ๐Ÿ™‚

          • towerofbabel

            I think it’s LeftE.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            lol

          • towerofbabel

            LoE! I just asked about you this morning.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Awe man this make my day! Glad you arrived!

          • Left of Eden

            Lol! Great to be here. Where you been hiding? Not sure what happened over at the banned room, but man is it quiet. Something, I gather from here, about Edwin being banned?

          • kreskin

            Edwin was up to his usual . ( shakes his head )

            *S

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Yeah it seems Edwin was being taken out back and mauled by wolves in a Chatzee room for commenting on other sites.

            Too much of this:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUkE9qaVgmo

            Not enough of this:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgmELtHrn-0

          • smkngman3

            For me it was when “garza” deleted Notis post and claimed that RS was upset with some of the posts there.

            Then I stopped posting there and watched the implosion!

          • s k

            Hey smokey, it’s unreal

          • smkngman3

            It made for sad but entertaining reading.

          • 17

            Wasn’t sad at all. Gave me a woody.

          • smkngman3

            But you knew what was going on while I only knew there were unexplained missing posters.

          • 17

            I tried to tell everyone. No one would listen. They had to see it first-hand.

          • Edwin

            Fucking “Garza”. Fuck.

          • Nancy

            hey great to see you are here!

          • Left of Eden

            Hey, Nancy, great to be here – wherever here is!

          • Nancy

            it’s a good here. open, safe and not crazy.

          • Left of Eden

            Just glad to have made it onto the last life boat out of the banned room. Be back after the tuna melts.

          • Nancy

            enjoy!

          • kreskin

            greetings , comrade

          • Left of Eden

            Hey, lucky me! I followed your footsteps from the banned room to here. Hopefully, no one was left behind. Felt like I was in solitary confinement there. Did Edward make it? The one with the Melville avatar?

          • kreskin

            refugees of the blogosphere .

          • Edwin

            wandering the wilderness

          • kreskin

            Haven’t seen Edwin .

          • Left of Eden

            Sent him a link. Hopefully, he’ll get it before it’s deleted.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Oh he’s here.

          • Left of Eden

            EdgarHF?

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Oh no! I meant Edwin.
            God I’d love it if Edgar were here! I think I saw him at Motherjones last! There ant truthdig.

          • 17

            He’s been here since the blog was started.

          • Left of Eden

            I meant Edgar, of course. Still getting used to my new sleep schedule, apparently. It sure and the hell ain’t age – no way!

          • smkngman3

            EdgarHF?

          • Left of Eden

            Yes!

          • Edwin

            I’m all over the effing place. Have posted notes for you. Good to see you.

          • notisaidthepig

            Hi, Left. So good to see you here.

          • Left of Eden

            Hey, noti. Wow, it’s like a dream. I went to sleep in TBR and woke up here.

          • notisaidthepig

            It was crazy. Glad it’s behind us.

          • OculusVeritas

            Isn’t that what fishing trollers do?

          • towerofbabel

            You look for circling seagulls.

          • Nancy

            yes, one of his many cheerleaders were you?

      • MeanValueTheorem

        “All your web activity are mine!!!!!”

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        lol did she actually say that?

    • OculusVeritas

      a print screen will reveal all

      • MeanValueTheorem

        Honestly, I felt like you were the gold standard in diplomacy. You and Spiffy. But that doesn’t seem to be enough. I’m sorry.

        Glad to see you ๐Ÿ˜€

      • Nancy

        so looks like you are now banned too?

        • OculusVeritas

          If you go there, you can read exactly what happened.

          • Nancy

            I did, that’s why I commented.

          • 17

            They scrubbed all of Edwin’s comments.

          • s k

            They learned well from their mentors at C&L, RS and AN

          • Nancy

            hahahaha…no way! that’s always a good indicator of a coverup!

          • Edwin

            All? Every thread?

          • Nancy

            good you still have screen shots…of the chat room as well. read that last night-jesus.

          • Edwin

            I’m just wondering if there is a “master kill switch” to erase me or if they sat there and went through every thread deleting comments one by one.

          • Nancy

            I think it’s line by line.
            that might where they have been the last couple of days…guess it’s worth it though.

          • Edwin

            I guess they had nothing else to do. 15 comments in 36 hours isn’t really overloading one’s blog duties

          • Nancy

            oh my…

          • 17

            I wasn’t looking at every page…..just the war room. yours are gone.

          • MsPythia

            Did they scrub mine too? I commented to Edwin’s comment and said I was out.

          • 17

            I didn’t look for yours. Sorry.

          • Nancy

            you can look back in your profile and see if it’s removed. it will tell you.

          • MsPythia

            I don’t really care. I’m not going there.

          • Nancy

            ahh ok. mine are still up.

          • Edwin

            I wonder if they think that might upset me???? (Ha ha ha ha ha)

          • Nancy

            you aren’t banned-you are still able to post there.

          • OculusVeritas

            Someone assumed I was…..It seems that I can

          • Nancy

            that’s odd-usually anyone that is posting here isn’t able to there anymore and the fact that you posted the link here was also a real surprise that you weren’t gone.
            very strange.

          • OculusVeritas

            I don’t understand either.

          • Nancy

            her comment to you sure looked like it was the end of your time.
            or not-all part of the fun eh? the crazy games continue?

          • Edwin

            Now that you’ve commented here you’re sure to be banned there in 3, 2, 1. That’s what happened to everyone else. You won’t be, can’t be, any different because that’s how those 2 operate. Loyalty is a VERY BIG DEAL to Ricki. She’s told me about 50 times.

            Let us know when you get banned and we can do the happy dance together. :~>

          • OculusVeritas

            Yes…

          • Edwin

            Actually you can’t. Lotta stuff went down with site members in their private TBR chatzy room.

        • kreskin

          banned from the banned room

          • Nancy

            the irony.

          • Nancy

            actually I was wrong-he’s not.

          • Edwin

            Good morning, kreskin. What Ricki said about me is 100% LIE. I already posted the screen grabs (here at Unka’s) from my private interrogation in their chatzy room to prove it.

            It all has to do with Ricki being a sick-twisted-fuck and thinking 17 is out to destroy her. Cathyx and I are 17’s agents of destruction. (though today I might be #1 on her hit list, or tied with 17)

            Good to see you.

          • 17

            Can’t blame me. I was banned long ago. My 17 fingers leave no prints. But it turns out that Nebdem DID go after the posters at Plum’s, demanding proof of Ricki’s wrongdoing. Those folks told him to fuck himself again.

          • s k

            What a bad joke

          • Edwin

            Went after posters at Plum’s in the last 2 days?

            17, no one deserves this shit. All we want to do is comment about politics and other fun stuff with our friends– the end

          • 17

            This morning.

          • Edwin

            And yet they haven’t found time to reply to my email yet. (!!!)

          • MsPythia

            Exactly — this is crazytown.

          • Edwin

            Ricki can blame you for everything wrong on the internet and everything wrong with America, just give her a chance.

          • notisaidthepig

            There you are. Finally! Hi, Kreskin. Glad you found us.

          • MsPythia

            Hi Kreskin. How’s it going?

      • Edwin

        Hiya.

        • Nancy

          flip?

        • OculusVeritas

          Hi Edwin….Like your new hat.

          • Edwin

            Thanks. So what are your thoughts about what happened at TBR? We’ve all shared ours. I’d really like to know what you think.

            Are you banned there now?

          • OculusVeritas

            It’s better you look for yourself…so much gets muddled in the translation, if you know what I mean. ….you can look without signing in,

            Well, I posted again since krestin came by the room and posted……He’s not banned either from what I can see.

          • Nevin

            I have no idea what you mean. You don’t have an opinion what happened within the last few days? That’s odd.

          • OculusVeritas

            Are you a prosecutor? Am I on trial?

          • Nevin

            I can be if you want me to be one.

          • OculusVeritas

            I’m taking the 5th….

          • Edwin

            interesting

          • Edwin

            We’d just like to know. We’ve all shared our ideas. Is there any reason you don’t want to?

          • cathyx

            I don’t understand after seeing what went down at TBR that you can still be commenting there. Why would you want to still be a part of that site?

          • Edwin

            ???

            I just want to know what you think about how Ricki and Neb treated me. You know they made up a lot of lies about me, don’t you? What do you think about that?

            I have screen grabs to prove they lied and are lying now. Are you OK with that?

            I already posted the screen grabs and everyone has seen. I can post them for you too if you need to see proof.

          • OculusVeritas

            I have no opinion. I avoided all the confrontation….Figured it was none of my business…so I left the scene of the crime.,,,,,,and besides it’s not good to carry grudges…..hard on one’s health.

          • Nancy

            your opinion was stated when you posted this:

            “OculusVeritas Ricki โ€ข 2 days ago
            Looking forward to turning the page with Neb and Ricki.”

            no worries. I think we are pretty clear about where you stand.

          • OculusVeritas

            ok…if that’s what you believe…can’t change a set mind

          • Nancy

            your words are clearly speaking here.
            also, your lack of words.
            no worries Oculus. we know what they did to Edwin.

          • s k

            Yup, just move on

          • Edwin

            IC. So you’re OK with them stalking, trashing and banning other members of the community as long as you keep your nose out of it. You have no opinion on that.

          • Nancy

            I’d say backing them publicly on their blog indicate support.
            just my opinion.

          • MsPythia

            You have NO opinon? None? It’s none of your business they stalk and harass people? That they did what they did to Edwin. That they’re in communication with Roxanne Cooper and that they wished Edwin would shut up about Karoli because they’re probably in contact with her too? You know, the people that banned us, hence necessitating a website called The Banned Room?
            NO opinion at all?

          • OculusVeritas

            I never witnessed any of it. That’s my knowledge.

          • 17

            Have you been to the Woodshed?

          • MsPythia

            Just here to take notes for Ricki and Roxanne? None of what they do bothers you I see.

          • OculusVeritas

            Hardly…..I guess I made a mistake by posting a link to kreskin….Thought I would help get ppl here.

          • Nancy

            see that’s why people are concerned and wondering what’s up. I like you-we all do and yet, you are posting links to here, still able to post there when we were all banned for much less. it’s odd, we are not too trusting at the moment and this looks like a mole or spy? it’s a bit difficult for most of us to wrap our head around how anyone can support them after what went down.

          • MsPythia

            Maybe you did make a mistake if you have ZERO opinion about all of this.

          • Nevin

            Yet you were not banned from posting that link.

          • MsPythia

            Yeah, that’s surprising isn’t it?

          • Edwin

            After what they have done and how they have behaved I have trust issues. No offense, but anyone who has no opinion on the subject I will be very wary of.

          • 17

            Let them stalk Oculus awhile and see how the mind gets changed.

    • s k

      My last post there was-Divide and conquer, the Hilbots won again. Neb replied that it had nothing to do with Hilbots-LOL

      • MeanValueTheorem

        You’re right.

        Glad to see you SK ๐Ÿ˜€

        • s k

          Thanks, good to see you, it’s been a awhile

          • MeanValueTheorem

            too long

      • Edwin

        He’s right. It didn’t. It had to do with our hosts being sick-twisted deceitful fucks.

        • s k

          He is a closet Hilbot

          • notisaidthepig

            He thinks we have Hillary Derangement Syndrome:

          • Nancy

            that’s the public reason for it. also it’s all Edwin’s fault and he doesn’t want moderation.

          • 17

            It’s his personal reason as well. He’s talked about it at other sites. He thinks we’re fools who are voting for Trump by proxy if we choose Jill.

          • Nancy

            nice way to treat your posting community.
            how loyal of him.

          • Edwin

            What? This is all going down now?

          • 17

            No. He’s felt that way all along. To him, a vote for Jill is a vote for Trump.

            ETA: His account history is closed now. It was always open before the implosion.

          • s k

            He posted that Jill VP pick disqualifies her, that’s when I knew he was a closet Hilbot

          • Edwin

            I have ODS and HDS :~>

            and I never did get my damned unicorn!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • notisaidthepig

            Me neither! And I was promised TWO. Dammit.

          • MsPythia

            Just be patient — unicorns take time.

          • 17

            Eat more skittles.

          • notisaidthepig

            Oink!

          • MsPythia

            He didn’t “cull” shit. We all left, and now they’ve scrubbed everything. Now they can make up lies I guess.

          • Nancy

            wasn’t that funny…having to spin that fact too? jesus

          • MsPythia

            And now The Banned Room can become a place for Shillbots — who NO ONE EVER BANNED. It’s hilarious!

          • cathyx

            That’s not technically true. I got tracey marie banned from C&L. My proudest moment.

          • Nancy

            LMAO! we were all so grateful-until we were kicked out of there.

          • 17

            Nancy, Mrs. 17 just read the article you posted yesterday. Everything she read jumped out as something Shelley saw as it was happening in chats. She says Ricki scored 20 out of 20.

          • Nancy

            it is amazing how much that fits 17…I just got a reply today that used one of the tactics…rather than answer a question or defend themselves-it was spun back to me.

          • lindajoyous

            Good, I told her to leave me alone one day at C&L!

          • 17

            Linda, I see you can still post at TBR. Please hold onto that ability. We may need it.

          • lindajoyous

            Ok, rest assured after learning the whole story this will be my new home!

          • MsPythia

            Well done Cathy! Of course you know that Tracey is probably also Gunther, right? LOL! ๐Ÿ˜‰

          • Edwin

            Ha ha. It was you who pushed her over the edge. I followed her conversation at TPV right after she got banned. It was freakin’ hilarious (the thread)

            Well done, cathyx, well done!!!

          • cathyx

            I pointed out very loudly and clearly that she was violating their TOS with her name calling.

          • Edwin
          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Poor dog. ;/

          • 17

            My Bride-to-be!

          • Edwin

            I guess eh has offended and attacked just about everyone.

          • notisaidthepig

            Such a cute doggie!

          • notisaidthepig

            That poor doggie!

          • Edwin

            They can do whatever the fuck they like. I don’t give a rat’s ass. Just leave me the fuck alone.

          • MsPythia

            Yeah, same. None of this was necessary from our point of view, but now that I know that Roxanne and Karoli are in communication with Ricki and Neb (maybe from the beginning?) it might make sense from their standpoint: they wanted to corral the Bernie Bros and put us into a fishbowl where they could read what we wrote and fuck with us for shits and giggles.

          • Edwin

            I certainly hope Karoli enjoyed my posts. Ha-fucking-ha ha ha

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            ^ After bitching about Hillary with us since May, he posts that. Of course Neb was always a little easier on Hillary than Ricki was.

          • Edwin

            Ack ack.

            Ack ack!

            God those two are twisted fucking fuckers.

          • Edwin

            Neb?

          • notisaidthepig

            yes?

          • s k

            Yes

          • Edwin

            Really. Gosh. I am so naive.

          • s k

            Did he ever vote in those stupid polls that he posted? No. I think he was planning a purge for a while, when no one picked Hillary.

          • Edwin

            I think I need to find a new way to spend my time online. Maybe learn how to do needlepoint. That always amazed me. Some of the Korean embroidery is exquisite.

          • s k

            LOL! How’s the heat, any relief yet to tend to your garden?

          • Edwin

            Endless. Hot again today. Sometimes I have to turn off the fan because it’s blowing hot air– yup, that hot.

            The garden is taking a beating (out on the concrete) but still looks pretty.

    • Nancy

      apparently not-he just posted again…that’s sure odd. usually anyone that posted here was booted-even stranger that he can still post after putting up a link? really odd.

      • MeanValueTheorem

        hmmm…
        This read to my like a friendly FO:
        “Take care, Oculus. We’ve appreciated your posts here.”

        I gotta start knitting again.

        • Nancy

          and yet he posted after that so clearly he’s not banned.
          look at the up votes? lol

          • 17

            Big red flag.

          • Nancy

            very odd indeed.

          • notisaidthepig

            a reveal…some might say

          • Nancy

            yes. intentional?

          • notisaidthepig

            I feel like I’m in Cloud Cuckoo Land.

          • Nancy

            flip?

          • notisaidthepig

            omw

  • s k

    You can run, but you can’t hide……Hello everyone!

    I come bearing a gift….If you haven’t seen this video it’s quite good.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHD_bj5fXO0

    • Nancy

      nice to see you s k!

      • s k

        Hi Nancy! As John Lennon once wrote-strange days indeed.

        • Nancy

          and only getting stranger!

    • Nevin

      About time you arrived here.

      • s k

        Hi Blue! Like a ball in a pinball machine.

        Did you see in that video, where the Hilbots covered they faces with plastic sheets and had to look through a rectangular hole to block out the Bernie supporters at the convention?

        • Nevin

          Ha.

    • Edwin

      Glad you found us sk! Howdy.

      • s k

        I never thought you would get banned from TBR. I was shocked they were pissed that you posted screen shots about C&L

        • Edwin

          ??? Screen shots from C&L??

          It has everything to do with 17– Ricki is obsessed

    • Rich H

      Yikes, I just posted this above. Still, it’s excellent.

      • s k

        No worries, it is good. It’s the first time I have seen her.

    • notisaidthepig

      Thanks. I enjoyed that.

      • s k

        Another reason to vote Green in Sixteen

    • MsPythia

      Hi SK.

      • s k

        MsP, good to see you. Another nightmare to put behind us.

        • MsPythia

          Yes indeed. Just so stupid and crazy.

  • 17

    Hey gang! Please steer clear of these posters. They are all the same person, and we know who she is:

    Mockingbird
    Ricki_Urban
    Sophia
    Attorney
    Opal
    Octopussy
    ExGroupThinker
    Elton_John
    RickiLee
    Rick_Urban
    Jonah
    The Whale
    Mrsdf
    Garza
    Sara
    Flipper

    Of course there can be others, but we know the pattern now. If anyone can add to this list, please let me know.

    • Edwin

      Thx, 17… and good morning

      • 17

        Good morning to you, sir!

    • MsPythia

      Panem et Circensus had a long list of account names that the stalker troll in Raw Story went under too. I wish Panem was here.

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        Maybe we’ll get her.

      • 17

        Those are hers. Do you mean panem has more for her?

        • MsPythia

          I don’t know if it’s her or not — but knowing what I know now, I suppose it’s possible. Panem had been collecting the numerous account names of the troll who was stalking and harassing people (including me) all over in Raw Story and Alternet, and maybe elsewhere — had a very long list, but when she brought that topic up in TBR, Ricki told her to send the list to her so she could ban them from the room. It was very early on there.

  • Edwin

    kreskin

    2 hours ago

    WTH is goin on ? The newest comments are from 7 to 20 hours ago ?

    Ricki

    kreskin

    an hour ago

    Yes, we asked Edwin to stop posting his bs about KK and Co. … it
    was too much, day in and day out. Now we’re his new objects of hatred.
    Nice to see you, kreskin. I know that Neb will be sorry he missed you.
    Take care.

    • s k

      Hi Edwin!

      • notisaidthepig

        Hi, s k!

        • s k

          Long strange trip it’s been

      • Edwin

        Hi (if I haven’t said so already)

    • notisaidthepig

      Oh, I hope someone gets to rescue Kreskin!

      • Nevin

        He’s here.

        • notisaidthepig

          Oh, good. I just got here and saw this. Thanks, Nevin. And good day to you!

          • Nevin

            Just scroll down to about an hour earlier.

          • notisaidthepig

            Oink!

    • Nevin

      Edwin, I was The Shadow. I only made that one comment that you saw. I went to post at RS and was banned. Something fishy.

      • notisaidthepig

        Efforts are being coordinated. How interesting. Knowledge is power after all.

        • Nevin

          Ricki or Neb deleted my one comment that was a link to here. I was shocked this morning when I tried to post at RS and I was banned.

          • notisaidthepig

            Fuckers.

          • smkngman3

            ???

            You were still able to post at RS before being banned at TBR?

          • Nevin

            I used tor and created another name.

          • Nevin

            I never posted at RS with the name. I created The Shadow, posted the link to here on TBR and when I went to post at RS this morning I was banned. Kinda funny since I never posted on their site with that name. Tor mask my Ip address

          • smkngman3
          • We’ll just bring all of Disqus’ best commenters here and let the others ride the idiocy of Hillbots and Rebulicans right-wing idiots.

          • Edwin

            C&L is inhabited my complete fucking morons now. I don’t know how the few good ones that are left can stand it.

      • Edwin

        Hey, “Shadow”

    • EdgarHF

      K K is a public figure. Newsweek prints some of her articles for Christ’s sake. A public figure is fair game for criticism.

      • notisaidthepig

        There you are! I was wondering. Hi, Edgar. Very happy to see you here. Oink!

        • EdgarHF

          Hey noti, I read an insulting posted article there the other day and wrote them off. That was the third time I saw crazy over there so it was time to go.

          • notisaidthepig

            The whole thing took me by surprise. But I skedaddled as soon as I could. Not going back. I don’t do crazy. Well, not that kind of crazy. Oink!

          • MsPythia

            We all felt the same way — nice to see you here Edgar.

      • Rich H

        No friggin way. KK in newsweek?

        • EdgarHF

          Yep, may have been just an online article, but it was
          Newsweek. I’ll see if I can find it again. It should not be hard.

        • EdgarHF
          • Rich H

            Newsweek has No Standards at all? I have half a mind to email them. That’s such BS.

          • notisaidthepig

            That one article was from June 30, 2015. Nothing else. Didn’t read it but it was probably crap and they didn’t ask her for more. Hate Newsweek. Now I know they are worthless.

          • EdgarHF

            There is at least one other from this year. I’m just too lazy to do the search again:-)

          • notisaidthepig

            Yikes.

          • Edwin

            Ha ha. We believe you. No need to put yourself out to find Karoli spew.

          • Edwin

            I think some of that crowd for C&L has posts at HuffPo- maybe Amato.

            I think by being obedient stenographers for the DNC that gang is patiently waiting for loyalty rewards. The DNC will toss them a bone or two. They don’t mind fucking over their community to get their hands on some goodies.

        • Edwin
      • You guys can say Karoli Kuns, here, and John Aravosis, and John Amato and even Susie Madrak.

        Exiles don’t have to be afraid to name the villains! LOL

        • smkngman3

          Amanda Marcotte.

          • Edwin

            Oh, man…

        • 17

          Are you telling us the “Roving Moderators” won’t come and shut you down like they’re so notoriously known to do at other sites?

        • s k

          So this is not another exercise in the Stanford Prison Experiment?

          • Edwin

            LOL

          • s k

            Fuck, that’s what it felt like after reading that nonsense. It went down right after my last post that night, so I read it in the morning.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Well done.

        • Edwin

          Hurray for Unka!

        • 17

          Edited

        • 17

          For anyone wondering….it was my comment that’s been deleted….by myself.

      • Edwin

        Edgar!!! Mwah mwha mwha (kiss noises)

        • EdgarHF

          Hey Edwin

          • Edwin

            Glad to see you.

    • MsPythia

      What’s funny is that all of us are their objects of hatred. We just wanted to talk politics and share news stories with each other, and they wanted who-knows-what? Control? Corral us in one place so their buddies Rox and Karoli could have some laughs?

      • Edwin

        She flips everything and makes herself the victim

        We stalk her (Ha!!)
        She is the object of my hate (Ha!!)

  • notisaidthepig

    Help skew the results if you like:

    NBC Poll โ„ข : Vote For Your Presidenthttp://nbcpoll.com/nbc-poll-vote-future-president-2/

    Here are the results so far:

    • s k

      Hi noti

    • NOT NBC, just a click-bait data-scraping site. They don’t even bother to completely finish modifying their cheesy WordPress template (see here: http://nbcpoll.com/estimates), and they use a 3rd-party polling site.

      This is how you get viruses, do you want viruses? (J/K… Sort of)

      • notisaidthepig

        NO!

      • RTIII

        When it was having trouble loading I killed the window – those are usually EITHER super-badly-done corporate sites or virus sites (like there’s a difference?), so I opened it with a LINUX browser!

        AAAAAAAAAAAAAhahaha, let the bastards try and infect THAT! :))

        • I’ve got a ton of browser plugins I use for security and web development, so it all appears before me, plain as day, without actually planting any cookies, beacons, etc. on me.

          And, well, yeah, I use Linux as well. ๐Ÿ˜€

          • RTIII

            Yeah, I use Windows for my desk-top box, and Linux for damned near everything else! ๐Ÿ™‚

          • Edwin

            You guys are the computer whizzes, but I love my Avast. Been saving my ass for 8 years.

    • Annaleigh

      Speaking of polls, I had forgotten to mention I got to do another YouGov poll, and this time I got to say I’m voting for Jill Stein. It also had some ridiculous questions though, where you had choose between Trump or Hillary (no option to select both, neither, or someone else) as to which of the two you’d trust to babysit your kids, who you’d have a drink with, etc. Unfortunately I had to choose Hillary answering honestly on that one, because I wouldn’t want to be 50 feet from Donald, wouldn’t trust him with a houseplant, etc….

      • notisaidthepig

        Glad to hear who were able to give Stein a bit of help. I might have lied just to skew the results. I wouldn’t have felt the need to be truthful. Have they? You’re a nicer person than I am. Oink!

      • Edwin

        I heard if Hillary enters your house all your houseplants die ^.^

  • smkngman3

    “Cop Who Killed Librarian Seen on Video Forcing K9 to Maul Man for Missing Bicycle Lights”

    On Tuesday, a Punta Gorda cop shot and killed a 73-year-old librarian, who was a wife and mother. Wednesday night, the department identified the officer as Lee Coel.

    As the Free Thought Project has pointed out before, Coel had no business being a police officer. Earlier this year, he was captured on video forcing his K9 to maul an unarmed and surrendering man for riding his bicycle with no lights.

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/50198-2/

  • I just wanted to say “Welcome” to all the old faces I see from some of the best comment threads of the last few years., It’s great to see you all here in one place, and welcome, one and all!

    https://youtu.be/hAPWoUB5Zxw

    • notisaidthepig

      Thank YOU for welcoming us so warmly. It means a lot. Oink!

    • s k

      Thank You

    • smkngman3

      I was lookng at the Bing Crosby version earlier. Didn’t see this one.

    • Nancy

      hey is there an email for the site if we have any questions/requests/concerns…can we donate to this?

      • unkawillbur@yahoo.com

        I’ll drop it on a sidebar on the homepage as well!

        • Nancy

          awesome thanks!

        • Edwin

          Is this site private– need invitation? Or is it wide-open for anyone to come here?

          Just want to know as I’d like to get word to Veri and some others if I can.

          • Nope, wide open. The only reason you would need to register on the site is if you want to contribute articles.

          • Edwin

            So if I post your url at another site to invite someone that’s all good?

  • smkngman3

    “Nuclear espionage charge for China firm with one-third stake in UK’s Hinkley Point”

    The Chinese company with a major stake in the proposed Hinkley Point C nuclear power station has been charged by the US government over nuclear espionage, according to the US justice department.

    In a 17-page indictment, the US government said nuclear engineer Allen Ho, employed by the China General Nuclear Power Company, and the company itself had unlawfully conspired to develop nuclear material in China without US approval and โ€œwith the intent to secure anadvantage to the Peopleโ€™s Republic of Chinaโ€.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/aug/11/nuclear-espionage-charge-for-china-firm-with-one-third-stake-in-hinkley-point

  • Rich H

    Here’s a great little video. I’m not sure if this was ever there before, but if you’re curious, you can pick it up at the 5:30 mark.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHD_bj5fXO0

    • EdgarHF

      The internet age has revealed what lapdogs the MSM are, or is it the other way around?

      • Nancy

        well look who’s here-nice to see you Edgar!

        • EdgarHF

          Hey Nancy!

          • Nancy

            how did you find our new digs?

          • EdgarHF

            Left Of Eden sent me a message by secret decoder ring.

          • Nancy

            nice! it’s been difficult to gather everyone…lots of us are private and many of us can’t post anywhere! lol, what a bunch! glad you are both here!

          • Edwin

            hurray

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        Edgar ๐Ÿ™‚ Hai.

      • Edwin

        The internet is fast becoming as corrupt as the MSM– see Karolie Kuns

        (thanks Unka!!)

        • EdgarHF

          I would lay bets most open public discourse will be completely gagged by the next presidential cycle.

          • Edwin

            we’ll have to go back to sending notes tied to pigeons

    • Edwin

      —— “please verify your Windows Vista, you may be using a pirated copy”

      I’ve been getting that every day for about 8 years and I am running XP (which is most likely pirated or not licensed anyway). I just ignore it and everything runs fine.

  • s k

    Beyond a Protest Party: What Will It Take for the Green Party to Start Winning?
    http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/37191-beyond-a-protest-party-what-will-it-take-for-the-green-party-to-start-winning

    Stein has actually walked the walk. She showed up in 2012, for instance, and was arrested for resupplying my friends and allies occupying trees in East Texas during the blockade of the southern leg of the Keystone XL pipeline. She showed up again in my frontline community in Denton last year to see the impacts of urban fracking on the Barnett Shale and to speak with my neighbors about the state legislature’s overturn of their vote to ban fracking within city limits. Stein is a candidate who hasn’t written off solidly red states like mine, as many in the Democratic Party have, and she is one who has earnestly listened to our plight.

    • EdgarHF

      The time is now to start breaking down the two party monopoly.

      • s k

        It’s way past time.

    • notisaidthepig

      Excellent article. I’m not surprised to hear about the disarray with some the GP’s infrastructure. I’m hoping the influx of Bernie supporters and other disaffected voters will help to transform the Greens. There’s no way it WON’T happen actually.

      • s k

        They need damn money, that’s how the two corrupt parties keep other parties out. Just think what they could have done with the 1/4 billion Sanders raised.

        • notisaidthepig

          Sigh. I’m supporting the Greens financially as much as I can. Also, I’ve already contacted them about helping in some capacity here in NV. We’ll see. Did you hear I’m going to the Presidential Forum here in Vegas tomorrow? Stein, Bill Clinton and Gary Johnson will be there. I’m excited! Want to get a selfie with Stein. Oink!

          • Nancy

            you will have to share all the details with…can you do a running, live report, while there?

          • notisaidthepig

            Alas, I’m no Sane Progressive. Maybe I’ll try to film a little with my new smartfone. I really do want a picture with Stein!

          • Nancy

            yes…you could just keep posting to here while you are there-live blogging is great!

          • notisaidthepig

            I’m so new to my smartfone! It’s an idea…..

          • Nancy

            you can do it!!! if it’s too much to do both-no worries-this is a huge opportunity to enjoy it without multi-tasking and being stressed.
            did I tell you I was jealous!!!???

          • notisaidthepig

            Yeah, I’m not very practiced with that so it will take all my attention. But I have an idea. Let me post it at the top.

          • s k

            No I didn’t hear, that’s great.

  • smkngman3

    “Customers Could Pay $2.5 Billion for Nuclear Plants That Never Get Built”

    Utilities including Duke Energy Corp., Dominion Resources Inc. and NextEra Energy Inc. are being allowed by regulators to charge $1.7 billion for reactors that exist only on paper, according to company disclosures and regulatory filings. Duke and Dominion could seek approval to have ratepayers pony up at least another $839 million, the filings show.

    The practice comes as power-plant operators are increasingly turning to cheaper natural gas and carbon-free renewables as their fuels of choice. The growth of these alternatives is sparking a
    backlash from consumers and environmentalists who are challenging the need for more nuclear power in arguments that have spilled into courtrooms, regulatory proceedings and legislative agendas.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-08/customers-could-pay-2-5-billion-for-nukes-that-never-get-built

    • s k

      Sounds like Obama’s all of the above energy policy is screwing us again, like his “Clean Coal”

      • Rich H

        I think he’s only about 3% as bad as Hillary will turn out to be.

        • s k

          Hillary is more of a Hawk, but Obama is a corporate puppet also. just look at Monsanto’s Dark Act he just signed-90% of the people were against it.

          • Rich H

            I still think he’s small time compared to the Queen of Darkness.

          • Edwin

            Hillary is both, in spades, she just gets her hard-on face when she talks about wars and killing brown people.

  • smkngman3

    “Top Clinton aide at State Dept. helped Clinton Foundation: report”

    “โ€œCheryl volunteered her personal time to a charitable organization, as she has to other charities,โ€ Clinton campaign spokesman Brian Fallon said Thursday.

    โ€œCheryl paid for her travel to New York City personally, and it was crystal clear to all involved that this had nothing to do with her official duties. The idea that this poses a conflict of interest is absurd.โ€

    So Mills was doing “charity” work for Hillarys “charity? OK……….

    “Mills interviewed one executive from Pfizer and another from Wal-Mart, the report said.

    Both companies have been major donors to the Clinton Foundation, and are also partners with the Clinton Global Initiative.

    Mills now serves on the Clinton Foundationโ€™s board, and runs a development organization focused on African business.”

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/291188-top-hillary-state-aide-helped-clinton-foundation

    • Rich H

      I don’t know why it’s so hard to connect the dots with the Foundation. Be a despot, donate to the Foundation, get a billion dollar arms deal.

      She and Bill belong in prison.

      • notisaidthepig

        But….but…nothing wrong was done! /s

  • notisaidthepig

    How to Spot a Shill in Eight Easy Steps
    http://www.inquisitr.com/3398783/how-to-spot-a-shill-in-eight-easy-steps/

    “In an address to the Green party convention, Julian Assange warned Jill Stein voters that Hillaryโ€™s online paid shills will be relentless in their attacks in the coming weeks.”

    • Nancy

      he is so not safe…

      • notisaidthepig

        Nope.

        • Nancy

          I am suspect of the timing with Sweden’s meeting.

          • notisaidthepig

            Yeah, he’s been there a long time. Why meet now?

          • Nancy

            they have to know that even getting rid of him will not stop the leaks and release of them. he’s one guy…there is an army behind him.

          • notisaidthepig

            They think cutting the head will kill the body. They are wrong.

          • Nancy

            are they ever.

    • Edwin

      So far this has been them being nice.

  • EdgarHF

    Holy crap, everyone is here!

    • notisaidthepig

      Yep. Mass migration.

      • The_Fixer

        We’re more like refugees.

    • Left of Eden

      Woot-woot!

      • MsPythia

        Glad you made it here.

        • Left of Eden

          Thanks! And in one piece even!

      • Edwin

        Happy to see you.

        • Left of Eden

          Hey, Edwin. I wondered where everyone was congregating and now wonder has ceased.

      • The_Fixer

        Hey Left, good to see ya!

        • Left of Eden

          Likewise. I just swam of the bow of TBR and found myself here on dry land.

          • The_Fixer

            Glad that you did!

    • 17

      Welcome, Edgar!

    • MsPythia

      ๐Ÿ˜€

  • smkngman3

    “A reporter showed his frustration with a State Department spokeswoman onThursday as he grilled her with ethical questions about the Clinton Foundation.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFVhHTXNp8U

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/291181-frustrated-reporter-goes-off-on-state-dept-spokeswoman-am-i-not

    • Rich H

      I’ve seen her before. She really is lost.

      • smkngman3

        Lost? or doing her job?

        • Rich H

          She does a damn good job of playing lost. Her hair is always slightly unkempt and she seems slightly stoned half of the time. She’s just what they need, I guess.

    • Edwin

      what a fucking bullshit artist lying skank– she knows she’s lying, it’s her job๏ปฟ

      she bought an expensive jacket (which is all wrong for her) and now she thinks she’s a playa!!

  • smkngman3

    A Dem went there?

    “Dem accuses Trump of sabotaging own campaign”

    โ€œSo it’s clear when he sees poll numbers declining, he’s crying like a baby. And what you’re seeing is not a meltdown, but someone who’s trying to sabotage himself to clear the way for President Clinton.โ€

    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/291175-dem-accuses-trump-of-sabotaging-own-campaign

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      ^ took them long enough.

      • smkngman3

        He was just kicked off the Hillary / DNS Xmas card list.

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          lol and put onto the hit list probably.

    • Edwin

    • kreskin

      It’s pretty obvious now .

      • s k

        Hi kreskin, it sure is.

  • smkngman3
  • notisaidthepig

    Hi, everyone. In case you didn’t hear or read, I was able to score a ticket for tomorrow’s Presidential Election Forum here in Las Vegas being held at The Colosseum at Caesars Palace. I’m excited. I just saw info on Jill’s twitter feed and pounced. It happened rather quickly.

    At any rate, I have no idea but often they have audience members ask questions. Wouldn’t it be a hoot if I got to ask a question? This is where I need your help for my very active imagination. What should be the one question I ask?

    Here’s what I’m thinking: “The primary contests revealed that the integrity of the electoral process is suspect and showed the media colluding with the Clinton campaign. Why should voters bother to cast a ballot?” Or something like that.

    What do you think I should ask if given the opportunity?

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      Ask how we can help to lower the requirements to get into the debates or onto the ballots of states for third parties and/or if the Green Party is going to ramp up efforts to get some Greens in Congress and how we can help. (Or you could ask her where she got that green scarf, i likes it.)

    • RTIII

      You should have 2 or 3 ready, just in case someone else asks your question before you can!

      • RTIII

        meanwhile, I’ll think about it in the next few hours! ๐Ÿ™‚

        • notisaidthepig

          Will look forward to that. You’ve always got good ideas.

          • RTIII

            Thanks…

            At this point, probably can’t respond until what is for me early tomorrow AM! HOPE that’s not too late for you! ๐Ÿ™‚

      • notisaidthepig

        Good idea. Maybe I should have two or three innocuous ones (certainly they are prescreening them) and then ask a totally different question when I get the chance?

    • Nevin

      Is seating first come first serve?

      • notisaidthepig

        No idea, Nevin. I was told to show up an hour early.

        • Nevin

          I would show up earlier.

          • notisaidthepig

            Yeah, that’s what I’m going to do. It starts at 2 so I think I’ll head out around noon. It will only take me 10 minutes to get to Caesars Palace. Hopefully parking won’t be nightmarish.

          • Nevin

            You know everyone is going to want to be in the front.

          • notisaidthepig

            Yep.

          • MsPythia

            They should put Noti up front — he’s easy on the eyes.

          • notisaidthepig

            So sweet!

          • Nancy

            they will want him front and centre-for a few reasons, being easy on the eyes is one of them!

          • Nevin

            Are we going by shortest first?

          • Nancy

            lol, I was always at the end of that line when they did that one. where did you rank Blue?

          • Nevin

            I think I was in the middle

        • Edwin

          Ruh-roh

    • “What would you do to lessen the regulatory capture of such agencies as the FCC, FDA and FAA, and who would you appoint to oversee the re-invigoration of these regulatory agencies?”

      • MsPythia

        That’s a great question — I don’t think anyone has ever asked her that…

    • MsPythia

      Omg! That’s awesome! I think it’s great to ask her about the integrity (or lack thereof) of our voting process. You could also ask her what she thinks of easily hacked/rigged electronic voting machines and scanners — you might even ask her what she thinks of the fact that the media refuses to discuss this topic at all.

      • notisaidthepig

        Yeah, I want to sneak in something about the media’s complicity and take a jab at the Clintons with Bill sitting right there.

        • MsPythia

          That would be golden! ๐Ÿ™‚

        • Nevin

          You’re in trouble. Bill will wag his finger at you.

          • notisaidthepig

            I welcome their hatred!

          • The_Fixer

            If Bill Clinton ever wags his finger at me, he will draw back a bloody stump and I’ll spit it back at him.

        • Nancy

          such a shit disturber! awesome!

          • notisaidthepig

            Well, I am a member of this community. That’s what we do! Oink!

          • Nancy

            apparently very well, I might add!

        • Dosido3

          I would go right after Bill on free trade and wall street regulation. the fucker.

    • s k

      I would ask her if she agrees with former Democratic President Jimmy Carter, that the US is no longer a Democracy but an oligarchy with unlimited political bribery.

      • notisaidthepig

        That’s a good one. Don’t like the yes/no format but this is easily tweaked to make it more open-ended. Thanks!

        • s k

          Anything to make the Clinton’s look like criminals on the take.

          • Nancy

            wouldn’t it be great if noti was responsible for pushing wild Bill over the edge!!???
            it would be epic if it was from a question that he asked.
            why the fuck is Hillary not there? what’s she afraid of?

          • notisaidthepig

            They’ll cart me away and send me to Guantanamo. The homeland!

          • Dosido3

            maybe you should ask Bill a “fuck you” question like why are you undermining democracy?

          • notisaidthepig

            Shit. That’s a good one!

          • Nancy

            he’ll just spin it and deflect onto the Russians and how they are actually the ones doing that

          • s k

            It’s the big Red scare again, I feel like duck and covering under my desk again.

          • Nancy

            indeed s k, I am having flashbacks from my school days…

          • Nancy

            we will visit-no worries…

          • notisaidthepig

            I worry!

          • Nancy

            no kidding. we couldn’t get through the front door. you would be lonely.
            oh wait-that’s not what you are worried about is it?

    • Dosido3

      Nice! Given Unka’s OT above, I might ask about the TPP. It would leverage the average Joes anger with the current choices. Like do you think the TPP is fair or unfair to American citizens? or something.

    • The_Fixer

      Ask Jill Stein if she is willing to investigate the Clinton Foundation/State Department/DNC corruption.

      • notisaidthepig

        Oh, Fixer, that’s a great idea. How about something about how the DOJ has failed us???

        • MsPythia

          Yes!

        • RTIII

          I give this quadruple thumbs up! ๐Ÿ™‚

  • notisaidthepig

    Here’s Ajamu Baraka’s 70th Tweet:

    https://twitter.com/ajamubaraka/status/763824066314633216

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      I would have laughed if you posted his 69th tweet.

      • notisaidthepig

        My mind didn’t go there but yours obviously did. Oink!

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          oink!

  • notisaidthepig
  • 17

    Overheard recently in The Banned Room:

    “Hello?”…(Hello?)…(Hello?)…(Hello?)…(Hello?)

    “Is anyone home?”…(anyone home?)…(anyone home?)…(anyone home?)

    “Helloooo”…(Helloooo)…(Helloooo)…(Helloooo)

    “Is there an echo in here?”….(echo in here?)…(echo in here?)…(echo in here?)

    • notisaidthepig

      Did you hear the sound of the wheat or the chaff?

      • 17

        Nothing but crickets and the leaves falling off the trees.

        • Edwin

          Can your neighbours hear you celebrating?

      • MsPythia

        Chaff. Definitely. The Wheat is all here.

      • Edwin

        I think the wheat did get separated from the chaff. How prophetic.

    • Nevin

      That’s pretty sad. Going from a vibrant community to nothing all within a day or two.

      • Nancy

      • 17

        A day or 2? No, instantly.

    • Blue Basilisk

      I came back after a week away to check in on everyone only to find that everyone had cleared out while I was gone! I tried looking back through the old comment threads and I honestly have no idea wtf happened. Glad I was able to find you all again though! ๐Ÿ™‚

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        You want a summary? Am good at summaries.

        • Blue Basilisk

          If you don’t mind! All I’ve really been able to determine is that something went down between Edwin and Ricki.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Well it’s a really long story. But summary is as follows.

            Apparently the mods at RS and CrooksAndLiars were in communication with Neb and Ricki at TBR.

            They bitched about Edwin bitching.

            Ricki seemed to believe they could shut down the site.

            So a mod named Garza *or something like that* told Edwin to cool it.

            Then there was another incident where people weren’t thinking and gave identity clues about one of our friends, as she was posting under a different site, under a different name. Youl would have thought the world was coming to an end.

            Finally, Edwin had had it and there was a massive blowup on the threads. Apparently, they drug him to a private chatroom where they bitched at him for two hours.

            So people got pissed at that and started leaving. I tried to stay behind to pick up stragglers and see if something could be salvaged. Apparently, if you post here at all, you are automatically banned there now. No warning or anything.

            Oh and there was a post on RS about how Neb said the Jill Stein supporters at TBR and the “Clinton Derangement Syndrome” had been fixed. Yeah, they went on an old thread, from like 9 or 10 days go, to try to sneakily recruit Hillary supporters. This from people who were bitching about Hillary for months with us.

          • Blue Basilisk

            That is…certainly something.

            I did see Neb and Ricki complaining in a lot of the remaining comments about stuff going on “in the back end” of the site that was apparently putting it at risk. Which is awfully strange since disqus doesn’t have any kind of global moderation afaik. And if it was such a big deal, why not just address the community as a whole and let us know?

          • 17

            Everything about Neb and Ricki was a lie. That’s what they are all about. The mask got ripped off, and they deflected the blame onto Plum Dumpling, me, and in the end…Edwin. When everyone saw who they really were, everyone defected. No one wants to be anywhere near them. I see you’ve been to The Woodshed, so you know things weren’t as they seemed.

          • Edwin

            Yes, this is correct. 17 has it right.

          • Edwin

            That was all after the fact. Lies to cover their asses.

          • Edwin

            Spiffy, they never once bitched about me bitching about Karoli. Not Once! That was the lie spun in their chatzy interrogation #2 and if you’ll read my screen grabs Neb agrees they said it was OK for me to trash Karoli. He says so very clearly.

            I asked them in interrogation #1. They said it was A-OK to trash her. Nothing changed until I was in interrogation #2.

            BTW regardless of what was said in those rooms 2 fucking interrogations to post at TBR ought to send off red lights to anyone.

      • 17

        It was a warzone, and we won.

      • The_Fixer

        I understand that the evidence conflict was wiped. That’s why you didn’t see anything in the old comment threads.

      • Edwin
        • Blue Basilisk

          Holy shit. Come to think if it, I saw Ricki completely lay into a poster a couple weeks ago just out of the blue. All they did was say hi to someone else and she went completely batshit on them saying they were ignoring her and that they knew what they did. I don’t post on many other sites so I thought it might be some kind of drama carrying over from one of the other sites.

          There was a lot of creepy talk about “loyalty” in those most recent posts on TBR too.

          • 17

            The exchange you’re talking about was with CathyX. She left, and never went back. She’s here now.

          • Blue Basilisk

            That was the one! I’m terrible about remembering names or screen names. I usually associate people with their avatars. ๐Ÿ˜›

          • Edwin

            About a month ago they interrogated me (another time– not what I posted above) because I ran into 17 at another blog and said, HI. I joked with him that he should start his own blog (as he had been banned so many places.) Cathy x was also there.

            Ricki took that to mean that we were disloyal to her and plotting with 17 to bring her down.

            And, please note: that means she stalked my progress to other blogs and recorded what I said to other people (not on her blog). Who the fuck is she to say we can’t talk to other people on the net???!!!

          • Blue Basilisk

            Crazy. I saw her raving about loyalty in some of the leftover posts. Why is she so paranoid about 17 in particular? I’ve not spoken to him much but he doesn’t strike me as the sort of person who would waste time conspiring against some small backwood blogger on Tumblr. Hell, from the way it sounds he could have given Ricki and Neb a really hard time with the evidence he had but elected to let them do it themselves.

            Serious question: Does Ricki have mental health issues? After reading your chat screencaps and the room 17 posted, I really get the sense that she is not well.

          • Edwin

            I don’t know her that well. Bernie supporters were getting banned at all the blogs so they opened TBR for us. She invited me to come over. They said it was a safe zone, by invitation only, and we could post whatever we wanted.

            Then, lo and behold, they are stalkers and out to fuck with everyone. TBR was like a spider’s web to draw in their victims. So now we’ve all left and want nothing to do with them.

            It’s all really very creepy.

  • smkngman3

    “Obama admin blocked FBI probe of Clinton Foundation corruption: Report”

    The Trump campaign seized on reports Thursday that the Obama administration rejected requests from three FBI field offices that wanted to open public corruption cases involving the Clinton Foundation and Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.

    After banks alerted the field offices to suspicious activity involving the Clinton family charity, the FBI wanted to investigate conflicts of interest stemming from foreign donations during Mrs. Clintonโ€™s tenure as secretary of state, CNN reported.

    โ€œTodayโ€™s news that President Obamaโ€™s Department of Justice overruled three separate DOJ field offices and the FBI in declining to open a public corruption charge against the Clinton Foundation shows a troubling pattern of Obama and Clinton politicizing any government institution for their own personal political interests,โ€ Trump campaign spokesman Jason Miller said in a statement.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/11/obama-admin-blocked-fbi-probe-clinton-foundation/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork

    • 17

      There is nothing legitimate about the U.S. Government. Nothing.

    • notisaidthepig

      This is why people like Trump. Well, one of the reasons.

    • Nancy

      crooked Hillary is pals with crooked Obama.

    • s k

      The only reason to keep GITMO open is to fill it with politicians and CEO’s

      • smkngman3

        It won’t be big enough for all.

        • s k

          I am sure Castro would let us expand it for those criminals.

          • MsPythia

            LOL!

      • 17

        That’s what lamp posts are for.

    • cathyx

      Wow. Go Trump.

      • s k

        Cathy thanks for the heads up about this blog

  • smkngman3

    “Developed In Iraq, Deployed At the DNC?: Cell-Jamming Technology Is Being Turned On Journalists”

    Both citizen journalists and mainstream media reporters found they
    couldnโ€™t share photos or video when they approached the gates of the
    Democratic National Convention, leading many to believe that their cell
    signals were being jammed.

    http://www.mintpressnews.com/developed-iraq-deployed-dnc-cell-jamming-technology-turned-journalists/219362/?desktop-version=on

    • MsPythia

      Wow. The Police State taking new steps all the time.

    • The_Fixer

      That is illegal. It is operating an unlicensed transmitter for the purposes of disrupting legitimate communications, a violation of FCC regulations.

      Pfft, what am I thinking. They are above the law.

  • notisaidthepig
    • notisaidthepig

      I posted this article downthread but I love that Stein is calling them out.

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      yay ๐Ÿ™‚

    • MsPythia

      So awesome!

    • Saw that a bit ago. Pretty basic info for the old hands at comment threads around here, but good info nonetheless.

    • kreskin

      How much did they pay Amato and company ? They went cheap I’ll bet .

      • MsPythia

        I would love to see that posted at C&L and Raw. Unfortunately most of us are banned.

        • Blue Basilisk

          And they said we were crazy. You’re not paranoid if they’re really out to get you! ๐Ÿ˜€

        • Edwin

          I gotta read that page on how to make effective socks. I bookmarked it.

      • Dosido3

        There’s only two degrees of separation between Brock and KK through SM at BNR. Brock bought BNR in 2015.

      • Edwin

        Sad part is I think they were only too happy to take the cash as they would have done what they did for free.

        Turns out that blog is nothing but a bunch of DNC ass-kissers hoping to get noticed and rewarded.

        • The_Fixer

          Yes, they do it for the promised access. Which will disappear the day following the election.

          • Edwin

            And they are total koolaid drinking cheerleaders for everything Dem/DNC

  • notisaidthepig
    • Nancy

      hahahaha…trouble is-she’s got it fixed so it won’t matter in the least. this money is just to pay off diebold, election officials etc…

      • Dosido3

        ok. what do I have to sign up for to get some of that Clinton $$$?

        • Nancy

          contact Brock, he’ll put you to work!

          • Dosido3

            lol. that’d be easy, too. I already know all the lines! blergh.

          • Nancy

            right…just parrot back all the abuse and bullshit they have fed us over the last few months…

          • The_Fixer

            My first month I earned 8,900 USD and am buying a McLaren F1! My sister last month made 5,248 Weekly and is buying a new Mercedes! This is the easiest job I ever had working on the internet, check here >>>>> http://www.brockwritesmeacheck.com for more.

          • Nancy

            lmao…awesome!

          • 17

            Whores gotta make a living somehow.

        • Edwin

          Ask Neb, KaroLIE Kuns, Susie Madrak, Nicole Belle, Bluegal, Amato-the-putz etc

          • Edwin

            Careful with Nicole because she is recovering from post traumatic blog bitch disorder

    • I just love this.

  • smkngman3

    The WEASEL with more words on the TPP!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m1p5h1lFOg

    ‘Strongest Words Yet,’ But Clinton Still Refuses to Push Obama on TPP”

    http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/08/11/strongest-words-yet-clinton-still-refuses-push-obama-tpp

    • kreskin

    • Kaine’s already spilled the beans on how they’ll pretend to have changed their minds. See here.

      • Dosido3

        great catch and thank you, Unka! lying sacks.

      • s k

        They will changed the name of it, that’s about it.

        • MsPythia

          That’s a good prediction. Change the name, some of the wording perhaps.

          • s k

            If they try and change it, it opens it up to the other 11 countries to change it.

      • smkngman3

        Notice she only mentions “workers jobs” but NO other aspect of TPP including Monsanto, Pharma, Intellectual property rights……..

      • EdgarHF

        But Kaine is very progressive because he has a 100% score from Planned Parenthood just like Joe Lieberman did.

        • notisaidthepig

          Kaine / Lieberman. That’s an excellent comparison.

          • The_Fixer

            If Clinton/Kaine loses, then expect him to switch parties like Lieberman did. I know, technically he’s an independent, but in pragmatic terms, he turned into a Republican.

        • Edwin

          He saved a tree once so he’s a bleeding heart liberal.

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      I guess she decided she no longer needs to pretend to worship the ground Obama works on. She thinks she has the black vote held hostage now that she’s the Nominee.

  • notisaidthepig
    • MsPythia

      She should be worried. Jill knows everything cold. I’m very impressed by how prepared she is for any question she’s asked.

      • kreskin

        Clinton would be a fool to debate Stein .

        • MsPythia

          She’s totally horrible at it. She’s terrible at press conferences too, obviously!

          • notisaidthepig

            Hasn’t had a press conference in months and months. Doesn’t want to face the press even though they are in the tank for her. Craven.

          • Nevin

            Over 200 days

          • MsPythia

            Hard to tell if she’s afraid of facing questions and “short circuiting” or if she’s afraid she’ll start that hacking cough and not be able to stop.

          • Nevin

            I wonder what triggers her seizures.

          • s k

            Honesty

          • MsPythia

            Almost forgot the seizures! She’d have to have that big burly guy with her at all times.

          • towerofbabel

            Bill will be elsewhere.

          • towerofbabel

            Visions of money bags.

          • Rich H

            Given to someone else.

          • The_Fixer

            Tough questions.

          • Dosido3

            I thought the hack was her go-to dodge…

          • Rich H

            Will she have to say anything before they swear her in? I actually thought it was getting close to a year – but apparently not.

            http://iwilllookintoit.com/

      • kreskin

        It’s a breeze for the truth tellers.

        • MsPythia

          And demand to know all the questions ahead of time!

    • The_Fixer

      Yes, “You can’t live your life in fear”!

    • Edwin

      I just watched a bunch of West videos the other day. He is so cool.

      • The_Fixer

        One of the smartest and most emotionally mature people on the planet. Damn, he’s one of the few public figures for whom I have great admiration.

        • Edwin

          In one of the vids he was asked about people taking personal responsibility and he said certainly and then went on to say—> “BUT what about community responsibility?” I did not see that coming and he is 100% correct.

      • s k

        Did you watch any from his poverty tour with Tavis Smiley?
        https://www.google.com/#q=west+and+smiley+poverty+tour+youtube

        • Edwin

          thx, will check them out

  • notisaidthepig

    I missed this the other day because I don’t have a television. So glad for YT:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZwWeJ5jzmc

    • notisaidthepig

      Wow. They do try to trip Stein up but they never can. Oink!

      • And what’s amazing is this isn’t someone who’s spent a lifetime as a politician, practiced at dodging the media’s sleazy tactics!

    • towerofbabel

      Tell it Sister!

  • smkngman3

    “With Libya, US Now Has Ground Forces In Four Wars”

    While it is impossible to know all the dirty deeds of Americaโ€™s sprawling global empire, news that US ground forces are now fighting in Libya means that US troops are involved in at least four active wars:

    https://shadowproof.com/2016/08/11/libya-us-now-ground-forces-four-wars/

    • kreskin

      America the beautiful . We have become what we once hated.

      • smkngman3

        We have been for quite some time yet it was never so obvious!

    • MsPythia

      It’s horrible. Makes me ashamed.

      • kreskin

        A proud American I am not .

        • MsPythia

          I hate our government. If most Americans had a say in most of this shit, we wouldn’t be doing any of it. Even a lot of the rightwingers and libertarians are against all the wars.

          • kreskin

            What excuse is there for the apathy , inaction and acceptance ? Voting for / electing a power tripping / war mongering asshole like Hillary Clinton ?

          • MsPythia

            Truly. I can’t think of a single one.

          • The_Fixer

            But she’s so likable!

            Hi, Kreskin. Glad you were found and came here ๐Ÿ™‚

          • s k

            That’s what was so disgusting about the DNC convention, when they were chanting USA and FLOTUS said this was the greatest country in the world.

          • Nevin

            I don’t know how she can be proud of our country now.

          • s k

            Really, coming from Chicago with all of the shootings in her backyard. I guess that 1% DC bubble hides a lot.

          • The_Fixer

            That chanting of “USA! USA!” makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up – and not in a good way.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            It looked like a Republican convention.

          • s k

            Hey Fixer, it reminded me of the GOP mindless morons

          • The_Fixer

            That and of any people who have been conned into supporting any fascist regime in history.

          • MsPythia

            I know — it was so Republican is was disgusting. That’s because there’s not much difference between Third Way Neoliberals and the GOP.

          • rattypilgrim

            Most Americans don’t know what their gov’t is doing.

          • The_Fixer

            Most Americans are too busy and too tired to pay much attention because they’re working 2 jobs and trying to take care of their families.

          • Nancy

            that’s their plan. there is no room for anything when it’s that hard to keep food on the table and a roof over our heads. great “busywork” courtesy of the 1%

          • The_Fixer

            Of course it’s by design. They want to keep the “suckers” busy and out of the way. But of course they still need to get their votes, so deceptive campaign ads during their favorite shows are the medium to do that.

          • Nancy

            yup-no one has time to think or look at the issues-just the carefully scripted soundbites and the fake smiles.

    • Edwin
    • Blue Basilisk

      Warmongers can never spill enough blood or sell enough weapons. It’s a hunger that cannot be sated.

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        hey blue

        • Blue Basilisk

          Hi! ๐Ÿ˜€

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            ๐Ÿ™‚

      • smkngman3

        Great kickbacks, high profits.

        • Rich H

          And no one needs to get hurt – that they care about.

  • smkngman3
    • Edwin

      LOL

  • smkngman3
    • Nevin

      And sadly he killed himself.

      • smkngman3

        Two years ago today.

        • Nevin

          Hard to believe its been two years.

          • kreskin

            Seems longer than that to me .

      • kreskin

        Very sad .

    • smkngman3
    • SpiffyTheValiant

      ๐Ÿ™ I miss him!

    • rattypilgrim

      After what you guys went through, I’ve got to say, there’s madness and there’s madness, if you get my drift.

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        hi ๐Ÿ™‚

        • rattypilgrim

          Hi. I’m a little gun shy because I’ve gone through this, too, so, if I come and go it’s because I really want to know the coast is clear.

          • Nancy

            it’s nice to see you.

          • rattypilgrim

            Hi, Nancy. I got a head’s up from someone after my one and only post you know where. I’m still keeping a low profile.

          • Nancy

            understandable. seems to be a clean site so far…we had some concerns down the thread asked some tough questions and it seems to have left us. we are all a wee bit wary.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            no worries.

          • cathyx

            What happened to you?

          • rattypilgrim

            Same thing but at a couple of different places.

          • cathyx

            You can spill the beans here, we know lots. you can even mention Ricki’s name.

          • rattypilgrim

            Give me a few weeks, ok?

          • 17

            Ever been to The Woodshed?

          • rattypilgrim

            Nope.

          • 17
          • rattypilgrim

            I’ve moved on. I’d like a few weeks to know this is a safe place.

          • cathyx

            Why would you come here then? If it has nothing to do with Ricki, why come here?

          • rattypilgrim

            ??

          • 17

            Go have a look in the Woodshed. http://us20.chatzy.com/24782158920657

          • Nancy

            he said this wasn’t about ricki/neb. perhaps he needs a chance to get comfortable here 17?

          • 17

            I need to see a name show up in the woodshed.

          • Nancy

            I and others have known Ratty for years.

          • 17

            I’m sorry. Just needed to see it in the shed. We’re good.

          • Nancy

            ok.

          • 17

            A fellow Canuk, eh?

          • Nancy

            …not sure if he’s from Canada-I just knew him as a decent guy and a smart, informed poster. we posted together from way back in the Huff days.

          • 17

            Edit

          • Nancy

            well, that’s maybe not info they want out here?

          • 17

            Edited. I’ll consider myself spanked.

          • Nancy

            with all the shit that’s going on-it is good not to say too much.

          • 17

            Maybe I’ll leave the interrogations up to you then, but you understand what I was doing, right?

          • Nancy

            I am not interrogating someone just because the come here. I get what you wanted to know-I just think there were some that were aggressive in their fear. some of us do know people that the others don’t and vice versa. it’s going to happen. the person I talked today was clearly a concern to all of us from TBR as he was a member there still.
            this blog is open and Unka is well known and Ratty could have come here for any number of reasons.

          • 17

            I didn’t grill them. I just wanted to see an IP.

          • Nancy

            Didn’t say you did 17.
            “I just think there were some that were aggressive in their fear.”

          • MsPythia

            Damn — missed it.

          • rattypilgrim

            I’m sorry to cause any turmoil. I know what you all just went through. I’ll go away. Stay together.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            You don’t have to go.

          • 17

            You’re ok here.

          • Nancy

            please don’t.

          • cathyx

            I didn’t mean to scare you away. We’re all just a little suspicious of people who are new to our community.

          • Stay. Everyone is welcome here, until they prove themselves to be not welcme. You’ve done no such thing.

          • towerofbabel

            We take in strays as long as they don’t bite.

          • Rich H

            No problems ratty, it’s good to see you.

          • Edwin

            don’t go

          • 17

            Ok. Thank you.

          • 17

            Talk to us. We want to know everything.

          • rattypilgrim

            Not the same perps, just the same situation.

          • The_Fixer

            Share when you are ready. However, you should know that we’ve discovered that there are a number of blogs whose management have coordinated the banning of people who are not down with their agenda.

            Sounds like a conspiracy theory, doesn’t it? Well, it’s not a theory. It’s been proven. What seems like a series of disparate events actually has some coordination behind it.

            Regardless, nice to meet you and hope you find this a comfortable place.

          • Edwin

            Hi, Ratty. I know your name from years on C&L.

  • Nancy

    oh, I like this:

    • MsPythia

      And with the Clinton’s it’s an enormous check, or hidden money transfer.

      • Nancy

        …that will never benefit the little guy.

        • MsPythia

          Nope. With the 1% it’s to fill their sick, insatiable greed for more.

          • Nancy

            it really is sick.

      • The_Fixer

        Or giving someone a job at the State Department.

    • Rich H

      They’ll have to redo School House Rock.

  • s k

    Shocking! CNN actually does news

    Clinton State Department aide helped Clinton Foundation

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZImjEeHvT5Y

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      They must have forgotten about that plane.

      • s k

        LOL. It has a train in it, though

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          lol

  • smkngman3

    “Lopsided Peace Talks Collapse, Saudis Resume Bombing Yemen and U.S. Sells More Weapons”

    The U.S. has already sold more than $20 billion in weapons to Saudi Arabia since the war began in March 2015, defying calls from Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International to cut off support. The Saudi-led coalition is responsible for the majority of the 7,000 deaths in the conflict, which has left more than 21 million people in need of urgent humanitarian assistance. Saudi Arabia has been accused of intentionally targeting homes, factories, schools, markets, and
    hospitals.

    On Tuesday, the coalition targeted and destroyed a potato chip factory, killing 14 people (see top photo). The Yemeni press has since reported that coalition has conducted hundreds more airstrikes across the country, killing dozens of people.

    https://theintercept.com/2016/08/11/lopsided-peace-talks-collapse-saudis-resume-yemen-bombing-and-u-s-sells-more-weapons/

    • Dosido3

      Oh, Yemen must be the choice for the 2020 Olympics…

      • smkngman3

        They wouldn’t even have to displace anyone to build the venues.

        • Dosido3

          they hate us for our freedoms…

          • s k

            Yeah, our freedom to bomb them

  • smkngman3

    “Rio 2016: Refugee swimmer Yusra Mardini hopes to ‘open the world’s eyes’ to plight of world’s misplaced”

    The swimmer who has been the inspiration of the Rio Games โ€“ the Syrian Olympic Refugee Teamโ€™s Yusra Mardini- said as she bowed out of competition that she believed she had helped
    open the worldโ€™s eyes to the plight of the displaced and homeless.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/rio-2016-yusra-mardini-refugee-team-olympics-swimming-a7183366.html

  • smkngman3
    • Nancy

      ouch!
      hope it’s all worth it.

      • towerofbabel

        There’ll be something Loretta.

        • Nancy

          man-I can’t imagine living with myself after that “snakes on a plane” meeting.
          I couldn’t ever be a politician.

  • smkngman3

    Remember DWS agreeing to debate Canova?

    “Wasserman Schultz โ€œschedulesโ€ a 15-minute debate”

    Last week, Debbie Wasserman Schultz told Sun Sentinel Editor, Rosemary Oโ€™Hara, that she was in debate discussions with me. That statement was a complete fabrication. In fact, Wasserman Schultz and no one from her campaign has ever responded to the debate challenge that I made back in April.Daysago, I tried again in an open letter and by email to Wasserman Schultz
    and her staff to suggest a series of two-hour debates. Again, I never received any reply. Instead, Jim Defede of WFOR CBS 4 Local News sent an invitation to both candidates to debate on his Sunday morning 8:30am talk show, Facing South Florida. At 4pm, my campaign learned that
    Wasserman Schultz said she โ€œscheduledโ€ a debate.

    https://medium.com/@Tim_Canova/wasserman-schultz-schedules-a-15-minute-debate-a68dfd5398c7#.w5b8xhcxt

    • Nancy

      she is vile…and a chicken.

      • MsPythia

        She really is — I hope Tim Canova rips her a new one.

        • Nancy

          it’s unbelievable what she is doing here and I guess like Hillary-she feel justified and secure in knowing the fix is in.

          • MsPythia

            Yeah, that has to be it. Neither one of them acts like they actually have to earn the votes.

          • Nancy

            the smug arrogance is telling. I always remember Hillary laughing about not getting indicted when she was asked.
            she was far too sure.

      • smkngman3
        • Nancy

          no true democrat behaves the way these ones are because they aren’t true democrats.
          they are republicans!

          • smkngman3

            Just because her Fl pals are all republican……………..

          • Nancy

            the republicans are pissed at them because they are better at it and bearing them at their own game.

        • Edwin

          Big sugar is Florida– saw the documentary. (Wonder if I can find it again. Horrible– slavery and tax cuts)

          All kinds of dreadful crap around sugar.

        • Rich H

          She needs big Plastic Surgeons on her list.

          • kreskin

            I don’t think she can be helped.

      • HITO

        Debs is a manipulator extraordinaire

        • Nancy

          she is…fits right in with the rest of the slime.

          • HITO

            I’ve always got a psycho vibe from her – like either she was under a tremendous amount of pressure to do a job she knew she couldn’t do – or she was a power hungry bitch who wasn’t going to take shit from anyone on her way to the top.
            or maybe both

          • Nancy

            she looks like she’s ready to shatter at any minute-like it’s just brewing and could erupt at any time.
            excellent analysis HITO.

          • HITO

            Just never got a feeling she was trustworthy.

            Gots to get up and out early. Great seeing you again, Nancy.

          • Nancy

            you as well HITO.
            nice to out and free from being under the spell. I believed some things about people I shouldn’t have.
            nice to breath freely again.

          • HITO

            amen

          • Nancy

            ๐Ÿ˜‰

          • Edwin

            You’ve got me babe,

          • Nancy

            my little Helicopter!!!
            or should I say big?
            ๐Ÿ™‚

          • Edwin

            ^.^

          • Edwin

            One of those unloved in real life types who decided to kick and bitch her way to the top. That’s what her hairdo is all about. Like one of those lizards that flares out its neck.

            https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/ed/61/67/ed616722ad610a6713affd736aa540aa.jpg

          • Edwin

            Ok, who should we trash next. :~>

          • Rich H

            Roxanne.

          • Edwin

            I don’t know Roxanne, but from the bits I’ve heard I bet I could make-up some juicy stories abut the bitch.

  • Edwin
    • MsPythia

      It’s good you’re sharing these. Some of the people who just came may not have seen them.

      • Edwin

        Hopefully it’s enough people can get the idea. This was my second 2 hour interrogation by them.

        People also need to look here: http://plumstchili.blogspot.kr/2016/07/the-banned-room-just-sent-me-this-pile.html

        Quite frankly, I’m getting tired of the whole affair. We need to put it to rest. Ricki and Neb have gone on a rampage against 17 and then Cathyx and me. They are twisted-sick fucks. We left TBR. It’s over for them; their blog is toast.

        • MsPythia

          True. But now I wonder if my own internet stalking experience isn’t somehow connected. I picked up that angry totally obsessive freak in either Raw Story or Alternet which are the two sites I always used to comment in. It’s disturbing to think about a connection, but I do have to wonder…

          • Edwin

            Who fucking knows anymore. These people are all sick.

          • Rich H

            Cathy from Cucamonga stalked me and IP for a while. What a nutcase – though harmless.

          • Edwin

            Ha ha. She stalked me at C&L for a few weeks and the mods did nothing, even though I pointed it out several times.

            Then someone else spoke up (The Fixer?) about her stalking me and the mod finally said ‘knock it off’.

          • Rich H

            I remember IP called her the Cat Lady from Cucamonga who’d die alone and get eaten by her cats.

            LOL.

          • Edwin

            She just went on and on and on to me and it got tired. Edwin, why do you have 2 profile. Edwin, what time is it in Korea. Every fucking day. 10x a day.

    • The_Fixer

      The last one, where she launches into the deal about her husband being murdered, is classic manipulation. What a scuzzbag for trying that.

      • Edwin

        One more. Of course she “hates to bring up 17” (cough cough choke). This was all about me and Karoli— or so they say.

        • Edwin

          I hate to bring up 17…… Ha!!!

          I still don’t know what she means by “IT”. Can someone fill me in?

          • Edwin

            See you upvote cathyx. Cathyx knows!! She’s one of Ricki’s victims too.

          • cathyx

            I’ve got copies of her rants with me too.

          • Edwin

            It’s a shame we have to do this stuff just to blog with friends. It all started when Clinton started her campaign.

            It’s a coup. This is the soft-propaganda phase. (I am dead serious too.)

          • Rich H

            It started earlier, when Obama’s DOJ and FBI coordinated with Wall Street and it’s private military, the NYPD in it’s OWS takedown.

            Karoli, Susie and Nicole freaked out when I challenged them on it. Of course they were wrong but What the Fuck Did They Care!

          • Edwin

            Naomi Wolf.

            I remember. This election it went into overdrive. The three bitches

          • Edwin

            a real fuckin’ piece of work

          • The_Fixer

            That’s when the alarm bells went off in my head. It was like someone waved a red flag in front of a bull – suddenly, she was stark-raving mad.

          • The_Fixer

            In the alternate universe she inhabits, it could mean almost anything.

          • Rich H

            Which universe?

      • Rich H

        I couldn’t believe it when I read it.

        • 17

          As you shouldn’t. That story changes all the time, depending on the circumstances. Yes, it happened. But not any of the ways I’ve heard her tell it. I finally saw the police report after having searched for months using every detail I was told as parameters.

    • “.. what pain you’ve caused…”

      I LOL’d

      • Nancy

        she fits a few of the categories in the profile I posted yesterday!

        • Edwin

          19/20

          • Nancy

            lol.

      • Edwin

        Too bad I didn’t think to make screen grabs from my first 2-hour interrogation. That one was all about 17 and my role in his plots to take down Ricki.

        • If you ever want to rant, just make a site account. I’ll bump you, immediately to author status and you can use as many posts as you need to vent about Ricki, Karoli, Madrak, Aravosis, et al. I, in my soul, understand your frustrations! ๐Ÿ™‚

          • Edwin

            I’ll keep it in mind. I think I’m OK for now. It’s just a lot of “new” people came in today and don’t know what’s going on. Ricki is telling more lies at her site. Gotta nip it in the bud and make sure people are clear about what happened. It’s not what Ricki said. Nor is she a victim.

            Yes, we asked Edwin to stop posting his bs about KK and Co. … it was
            too much, day in and day out. Now we’re his new objects of hatred.
            Nice to see you, kreskin. I know that Neb will be sorry he missed you.
            Take care.

          • HITO

            E, I was witness to the Karoli meltdowns on C&L that left a mark on many commentors…like IronPyrite, Rich, Coloradas, etc. And when they shut down Bede – I walked away and never looked back. But I won’t give those bastards the satisfaction of blowing up my account.

            The founding commentors on C&L weren’t appreciated – they became a hindrance when the same independent voices they shared which made C&L a hit then became a burden to Amato. It’s happened on other blogs. Management can’t control the very entity which put them on the map….ahem…Arianna. And what they refuse to realize is the very thing they are trying to control was the factor which made them successful to begin with and it is better to NOT control it.

            Your venting about Karoli was a normal response given the history. And based on your later observations after you left – it only got worse on the site for those with an independent mind. What a damn shame. And then you go to another place and they need to control you also within a short period of time. Same shit different day.

            I hope you are at peace with yourself. It’s a new day and a new way. I read those screen shots you posted from the chatz and imo, you were kind. And just like Plum, you didn’t deserve the hate that was dispensed.

          • Left of Eden

            Actually, the particular fray you are referring to involving IronPyrate, RichH, Coloradas, et al. was instigated by Madrak. I know because I was at the center of it. What amazes me to this day is that I, in spite of a quite vituperative exchange with C&L staff, and Madrak in particular, was never banned from the site. But the disgust I felt left such a bad taste in my mouth that I left voluntarily, only to return at the beginning of the primaries. And when it became as obvious as the north star that the site was in the tank for Hillary, I left with the huge outflow that carried away MVT and many others besides.

          • Edwin

            Rich sent me an alert to that thread as it was in progress,. Nicole Belle came out of her (cough) “PTSD-blog-disorder retirement” (she was called a bitch once too many times) and started taking swipes at people. It was a very nasty 36 hours. Purge #1 will go down in infamy.

          • Left of Eden

            Yes, I remember. Nicole growled and wagged her finger at me in that thread as well.

          • HITO

            Can you imagine a mod writing this ?

            “This subject is closed — move on. Tired of your disruptive actions on this blog. Keep it up and your days will be numbered.”

            Inept bully. Number this bitch.

          • Edwin

            These people are just fucking bloggers ferchrissakes. Who the fuck do they think they are?

            I can type up a bunch of nice, mindless, disingenuous shit about Clinton and collect a biscuit too (but I don’t want to because EEEEEWWWWW.)

          • HITO

            lol – but fyi, that quote came from TBR’s mod. yikes – how’s she fit her head through the door on any given day ?

            I’ve got to get into work early tomorrow. So I bid you all adieu. Great seeing you again.

          • Edwin

            The one to RTIII. I saw that this week and asked about it. It was one more log on the fire these last few days.

          • HITO

            I’ve known RT3 since 2008. He never deserved that type of flippancy and arrogance from a mod on any blog, esp. TBR.
            They didn’t know what they had. I tried to tell them. Garnering you and the other C&Lrs was their vehicle to success and without you guys, they’re left to talk to each other.
            Maybe it’s for the best that they initiated their control maneuvers and erroneous judgment calls now in its infancy vs. waiting a year or two. I hate surprises of this sort but better to know now before a relationship is established.
            Have to dash to work. See you tonight if I can stay awake !

          • Edwin

            Ricki and Neb are melting down in real time right now (not pretty)

            http://thebannedroom.tumblr.com/post/148702423272/from-here-on-forward

            Nevin and I have made some comments about it in the evening open thread

            http://exile.bottleofsmoke.com/2016/08/12/everybody-knows-name-evening-open-thread/

          • The_Fixer

            Have a good night, Hito. Take care.

          • HITO

            ๐Ÿ™‚

          • Edwin

            I think she’s actually the worst of the bunch. A real c#n’t say that word.

          • Left of Eden

            In talent as well as in temperament.

          • Edwin

            Over the years she took many swipes at me. She just barely tolerated me (I see now)

          • Rich H

            Total nutcase. She re-married a few months ago. I imagine her ex is the happiest man in the world while her new husband must be the most miserable.

          • Edwin

            She really is a C # N letter after s, big time!!!!!!!!

          • Rich H

            And they know how to hold a grudge. A few months ago I crossed paths with nightrider again. He said hello and mentioned he’d ask if IP and I could be reinstated at hacksandliars.

            So he did, Karoli had another meltdown over about a half dozen posts, lied about Everything that transpired – then Banned him.

            He linked me to the whole thing. WTF was Newsweek giving the sore on a pustules backside a place to publish?

          • Edwin

            Darn, I seem to miss all the good stuff. Not surprised. Karoli is a fucking douchewad.

            I ran into nightrider a while back and we had a good chat (over a few days) at AN.

          • Rich H

            He’s actually a pretty cool guy. He has his own blog he started like 30 years ago or something. It’s so totally old school it was hard to navigate. Kind of reminded me of gopher.

          • Shohanna

            I was reading that thread when it happened. I decided maybe today isn’t the day to post. LOL

          • HITO

            That is good news – I’ve clearly forgotten it was Susie who launched that assault – I bookedmarked those pages when that shit went down and read it shaking my head for a day or two. They didn’t ban me either but I went in there with this disqus user (I had a C&L account) to voice my disgust. Can’t remember the details anymore – and don’t want to revisit it – but I have enormous sympathy for those who were dissed.

            Which one had the balls to ask for donations for a new fucking car for herself ? Was that Madrak also?
            Ugggh – better to not remember.

          • Edwin

            Madrak asked for money for her car. That was a new low. Really fucking clueless and greedy.

            Susie came on one night and called me a misogynist. I gave some pushback about some crap in one of her “adoration of Clinton” articles (which was just plain wrong) and she went ape-shit on me, like a real skank.

          • HITO

            skank ? nah – control freak. insecurity does that to people of weak minds.

          • Edwin

            she can be both

            if she’s reading this I bet skank has more umpff

            (always thinking about my audience)

          • Left of Eden

            Donations for a new car? Wow, what a bloated sense of entitlement. Glad I missed that.

          • Edwin

            They made a thread at C&L and asked us to donate.

            https://www.gofundme.com/yy6nq6e4

          • Left of Eden

            OMG! ***vomit***

          • Edwin

            I know, eh!!

          • HITO

            and her whine over her older car was truly pathetic. Like she was entitled to new wheels given her lousy pay from Amato. You couldn’t make this shit up if you wanted to.

            Have a good night, LOE. Great to see you again.

          • Left of Eden

            Same here!

          • HITO

            takes a special kind of person to become dependent upon strangers with a shitty attitude of expectation, doesn’t it ?
            I don’t miss C&L one bit.

          • Edwin

            all douchebags

          • HITO

            We owed her that car, dammit ! lol

          • Edwin

            meanwhile half the people posting at the blog were probably wondering if they’d make the rent that month

          • The_Fixer

            I remember that. She had a picture of the damaged car sitting on a flatbed truck or trailer, IIRC. Big sob story to go along with it, too.

          • Edwin

            I posted the GoFundMe they used

          • The_Fixer

            Saw that after I posted. Yup, ballsy little beggar, ain’t she?

          • Rich H

            IP did some work on that and basically showed how she was lying about the whole thing.

          • Shohanna

            Yup I remember that and I was dumb enough to give her money, not a lot mind you, but I could afford it. Thing is, they lied to us. They lied straight through their fucking teeth. ๐Ÿ™

          • kreskin

            Madrak has the dimmest bulb of the lot , a legend in her own mind .

            Gung ho on Occupy Wall Street / rabid Clinton supporter , idiocy at it’s finest .

          • Edwin

            We could have a little contest: the worst crudbucket-bitches in the blogosphere. Maybe I should get Unka to open me that room. :~>

            (in this case, bitches is for men and women)

          • Rich H

            Should be Amato, he’s the one that gave the three headed Hydra a place to post their BS. Of course, they’d have to get his balls out of the jar first.

          • Edwin

            more than 3, some are less out-spoken

          • kreskin

            Good point , it’s his blog .

          • Rich H

            Gung ho till it was cracked down on and all fingers pointed to the Obama administration. After that, it was “why can’t those people get organized”,

          • kreskin

            She hated Obama . Spoiled her little wet dream about a Clinton presidency .

          • Edwin

            true that

          • HITO

            that’s one hell of a conundrum of sentiment – bipolar ?

          • Edwin

            Ha ha, Every other Madrak thread you were in there “Madrak is at it again!!!!”

          • MsPythia

            Hi Hito! Nice to see you!

          • HITO

            MS, missed you and Smokey and Edwin’s snark. I couldn’t even open up that other place after the Plum attack. So I’m glad this forum is here to stay in touch and share the mindblowing events of politics going forward.

          • kreskin

            Why I wasn’t banned long ago … is beyond me .

          • Rich H

            It’s you’re avatar, who doesn’t like Curly?

          • Edwin
          • Rich H

            Madrak was a real worthless POS. Even after she left she had to go back just so she could give shit to people. Really, a total asshole.

          • Edwin

            Thx. I was a C&Ler back i the Haloscan days. (I think I was there to go through 3 different commenting systems.) I’m one of the early ones. Been there as long as miss_kitty and a few others. Seen thousands come and go. Never had a problem unitl Clinton launched her campaign.

            I saw Karoli, Nicole and Susie trash long-timers. They’ve all trashed me too. Amato is a creep and a stooge. I think Amato is a big fucking putz.

            Anyway, thanks for your kind words. I know you go way back at C&L too.

            And about Karoli–> I mostly had fun trashing her “good name”. She’s a real piece of work. No moral compass- all about her.

            I could write an essay here, but Fuck ’em– all douchebags.

          • MsPythia

            Roxanne at Raw Story did the same to me and so many others, Edwin. What people don’t often think about is that without the old timers who gave them money in the beginning, their blogs would not have lasted long enough to gain enough hits to attract advertising dollars. We were banned, after they used people like so many of us, to make their names on the internet. And then, when they wanted to tow the line for Hillary Clinton and David Brock and the DNC (and get compensation for doing so?) people like us became a major hindrance to towing that line and sending out the message for the status quo. So they cut us loose like we were garbage. But the fact is, they’re garbage, and we deserved more respect because without folks like us who were generous, and wanted to build progressive media online, their sites would have disappeared long ago.

          • Edwin

            Yup.

            We built C&L. We donated our money. We turned it into the cool destination it was. We put (the putz) Amato on the map.

            Once the ad $$$ started rolling in we were garbage to be taken out.

          • MsPythia

            Yeah. But they’re the garbage. Not only were we the kind of folks who were generous enough to give, we’re also not the kind of people who can be bought or who let other people tell us what to think. And I do think that many of these blogs have been bought during this primary, and that the purpose of buying them was to feed messaging to people who can be lead like sheep.

          • Edwin

            We’ll count how many go under come December, together.

          • MsPythia

            I don’t know Edwin? Corrupt Crazy Shillary is probably already planning ahead of her second term.

          • MsPythia

            There are a whole lot of 1%er’s who are INVESTED in keeping her as CEO of America Inc.

          • Edwin

            Well, then, I’ll just have to get up to speed on making socks and visit these places when Hillary cuts SS and starts a war with Iran and rub their fucking faces in it. I guess that’s something.

            (Too bad about SS and the war though.)

          • MsPythia

            The one thing is, it appears that she’s not in good health, despite her many ambitions. She’ll probably not make it through the first term, let alone the second.

          • Edwin

            good news

          • MsPythia

            It is. But as soon as she can, we’ll no doubt be embroiled in more wars. Looks like Obama is currently trying to help her by getting the jump on WWIII.

          • 17

            MsP, I just saw your comment in The Woodshed. Thank you for your thoughts, but it’s my wife who deserves far more concern than me. As hard as it was some days, I could handle it, but it really tore Shelley up.

          • MsPythia

            I feel so sorry for both of you. When I said “you” I really meant that in the plural. <3

          • 17

            I was foolish. I don’t trust people IRL…how do you think I feel about on-line folks now?

          • MsPythia

            I hear you. I’ve got a stalker too, you know. It was funny how they showed up in TBR right away.

          • 17

            I actually saw that you had one. That’s how I knew your story was true. I never saw the stalker Ricki said she had, and the next thing I knew I was the one being accused of being her stalker.

          • MsPythia

            Well my stalker stalked a lot of people in Raw Story and Alternet. EmmaLib and I share the same stalker. They have a million different avatars, and they are relentless and obsessive.

          • Edwin

            For me, I don’t really give a rat’s ass, but for you it’s real time harassment. Live. Serious shit.

            I doubt there’s much she can do to me in Korea. I’m not even an American citizen. Good luck trying to get me.

          • Rich H

            I left RS after I noticed Chica could post whatever shit she wanted. I tried posting the same, basically verbatim, just changed genders, and my posts would always get deleted.

            Chica would say shit then put a smiley on the end, like this :^) meaning it was all a joke, she was just kidding – and it’d stay up.

            I tried doing the exact same with a smiley on the end – and I’d get deleted so I figured fuck it. If I couldn’t fight fire with fire there was no reason to stay.

          • Edwin

            Yes, but everyone knows you are evil Rich and Chica shits happy-time rainbows. (Any chance Chica was a Hillary supporter? :~>)

          • Rich H

            Chica and Roxanne are bffs.

            She’d post stuff like,

            “Aw, poor butt hurt, misogynist Bernie Bros. keep whining because ….

            Whatever, you know, I’m not that much of an ahole to even think how to complete that sentence. Then she’d put end it with this, :^)

            If you pissed her off she’d have you banned.

          • Edwin

            Yup. That’s what flooded into C&l. Karoli loved them all. (photo evidence)

          • Rich H

            That’s like alternet now. I only stay there because there’s a half dozen good posters – but that’s it. The whole site has been over run.

            BTW, if you look at alternet’s Foundation Support page, it lists a dozen contributors and at the bottom, this,

            “Several of our additional funders wish to remain anonymous.”

            Fucking scumbags.

          • Edwin

            and (that crud) Gunther loves it there now

          • Shohanna

            I can’t stand Gunther.. OMFG. **shiver**

          • Rich H

            Hi Hito, it’s been a long time. It’s good to see you.

          • HITO

            You’re a hard guy to find given your privateness – I’d see your comments days later on Alternet. Hope to see you here in the future. How’s IP ? Send my regards please.

          • Rich H

            IP never stops. He works hard in his profession – does the same at home. If I could, I’d be the King of Relaxation.

          • HITO

            I’m like that also. Happiest when I’m juggling one hundred tasks. Probably a genetic disorder. ๐Ÿ™‚

          • Shohanna

            *HUG** Hey Rich!!

          • Rich H
          • 17

            Now you know how I’ve felt for months. She could say what she wanted, and I couldn’t defend myself.

          • The_Fixer

            Worse yet, she had some credibility at one point, and turned people against you with her lies. I am pissed about that. And there was no way to hear the other side of the story.

          • Shohanna

            EXACTLY! I was like I know Edwin, maybe not with that moniker but damn it we go back, WAY back. C&L was our home!! It’s because of Edwin I made a Disqus account. I use to not HAVE one. I posted on the old message board and I went by Loosely Twisted. We were both mad cause we lost our “seniority” lol

            Along with at least a dozen other people, which if I saw their names today, i would be like HOLY SHIT OMG HAY GUYS!! But I don’t recognize a lot of names and I lost those friends. MVT, Unka and others we were a pack. /nod I missed them terribly. It’s almost like becoming an adult and you lose your friends because you chose to grow up instead of go out drinking with them. ๐Ÿ™

          • Edwin

            I get it.

            And now?

          • 17

            Honestly? Confused. Relieved a little, but somewhat confused.

          • MsPythia

            Well, I think we should stick together. We’ve all been put through the wringer, both politically and personally. There is always strength in numbers.
            If that sounds like I’m a socialist, it’s because I am.

          • 17

            Yes Ma’am.

          • Edwin

            looks like lotsa fuckers out there trying to fuck with lotsa people. I bet Karoli is in on it. She seems twisted enough ot get off on this shit.

          • MsPythia

            And I think that Roxanne and Karoli are friends too. It was very interesting how quickly Markus Garvey (mod at Raw Story and Alternet) jumped in to comment at TBR yesterday morning (and then deleted his comment) after we’d all left. They were watching that place like a hawk — and after all you were told that Roxanne and they were communicating…

          • Edwin

            What do you think the chances are that Karoli knew I was very explicitly going off on her every thirsty minutes and she never came over to look.

            LMAO— sweeeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            http://cf.ltkcdn.net/stress/images/std/189580-425×425-Angry-People-Clipart-2.jpg

          • Edwin

            Crunts.

    • Rich H

      Those were awesome. What a nutter.

      • Edwin

        I wish I’d got the whole thing, but I guess those do the trick. It was an afterthought and I was racing to get them. Moments later Ricki cleared the room- deleted all– so I’m glad I got them. She probably had no idea I made them and then continued to lie about me for the rest of the day. Those grabs are enough to prove she was lying about me all day long.

        I just sent them another email to let them know (posted contents in evening open thread)

  • smkngman3
    • Nancy

      love the terms she comes up with to Hillsplain her fuck ups.

  • Evening Open Thread is up, folks!

    • Edwin

      I haven’t been able to come close to getting through this one. Made some toast and 50 new comments. Still shows 62 new comments.

      I wonder if all the blogs are this busy??? (lmao)

      • Nevin

        You naughty boy.

  • Edwin

    I finally made it through this thread. Now everyone move to the new one please.

    (D’oh: one new comment)

  • Rich H

    I go out for a few hours and there’s 368 new comments. Wow. Poor, poor, TBR.

    • RTIII

      Those are, I trust, crocodile tears! :))

      • Rich H

        Of course, now I have to read them all. Good Stuff Too – and some familiar, old, names have shown up.

        • Edwin

          They tried to make us miserable and it ends up we’re happy as pigs in shit– or even better. :~>

          Fuck all of them!!!!!!!!!!

          • Rich H

            Yeah, well, what I wouldn’t do to be able to post a few un-removable takedowns on C&L. I know a few who could use a good, old fashioned, whooping.

          • Edwin

            We should have gone to hacking school.

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