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To anchor tonight’s Open Thread, we bring you the J-Geils Band’s infamous cult-hit song, “No Anchovies Please”

This B-Side to the J-Geils Band single “Love Stinks” got almost as much airplay as the A-Side and it quickly became a novelty cult-hit, featuring regularly on comedy-radio shows (like the Dr. Demento Show) nation-wide.  While the J-Geils Band was always somewhat known for a certain goofiness to their songs,  many, many mainstream pop acts, like The Rolling Stones and Johnny Cash, to name two, have released novelty records that saw one degree or another of success.

Have any of your favorite rock and pop acts done a novelty song? If so, what are they?

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  • Nancy

    first!

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      Hey!

      • Nancy

        hi!

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          lol. I thought I was gonna be first.

          • Nancy

            I was just on the flip side-caught up there and headed to the thread-saw the new page and posted!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            you canadians…

          • Nancy

            yes?
            😉

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            lol

          • lindajoyous

            Now girls get along lol!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            😉

          • lindajoyous

            Gotta tease my friends lol! 🙂

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            <3

    • 17

      Please compose a celebratory speech so we can send it to TBR. They need the content.

      • notisaidthepig

        Good one!

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        Meow.

      • Nancy

        well I must tell you all just how much freer I feel being here-the blog is great and the people are sane!!!

      • MsPythia

        I’m glad I’m out of the Spider’s Web.

    • FaunaAndFlora

      Hello Nancy!

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        That’s a name I haven’t seen in awhile.

      • Nancy

        awe hello FAF!
        so great to see you!

        • FaunaAndFlora

          Good to see you too. Didn’t want to comment at TBR because I knew all about Ricki and Neb. Canuk is here too. Thought he’d share some info.

          • Nancy

            nice! wow, what a mess…
            it will be good to see him…not sure who is friendly or not anymore-so much has gone on this primary-I have lost friends over our political choices.
            oh well…great to see you again!

          • I think this applies to politics as well! 😛

          • Nancy

            indeed!

          • FaunaAndFlora

            You can always count on me to be friendly. 🙂

          • Nancy

            thanks! you are a good person!

          • FaunaAndFlora

            Aw… (blushing)

            Right back at ya, sweetie!

          • Nancy

            😉
            there are a few that I have lost touch with-some forever. oh well…

          • Hi Fauna & Flora, have you posted at alternet?

            I think I might have read some of your posts, and up-voted them.

          • FaunaAndFlora

            Hello Stephanie… I have posted on Alternet but it’s been awhile. Thanks for the upvotes!

          • Honestly I can’t remember what or why I upvoted your posts. I do remember your name though, because I really did liked it:^)

          • FaunaAndFlora

            Thank you! That’s so sweet. 🙂

    • smkngman3
      • Nancy

        oh you are here!!! so good to see that!

      • Nancy

        hahahaha, was so happy to see you found us I forgot to look at the pic!

        • smkngman3

          Then that pic goes double!

          • Nancy

            old habits die hard…

  • 17

    I was walking past the mental hospital one day, and all the patients were shouting, “16…16…16.”

    The fence was too high to see over, but I saw a little gap in the planks, so I looked through to see what was going on.

    Some idiot poked me in the eye with a stick, then they all started shouting, “17…17…17.”

    Now you know how I got my name AND learned to mind my own business.

  • notisaidthepig

    I wasn’t a fan of the J. Giles Band just knew their big hits. I wasn’t aware of this B side novelty song. It’s hysterical. I don’t think any of my favorite groups had novelty songs but I’m not sure. Some must have! I need to check…..

    • 17

      Oh yeah! This was a great tune!

    • You’d be surprised. A good place to start is the Dr. Demento Database. That guy’s an encyclopedia of music, especially funny music, and he’s been doing it since the early 70s!

  • 17

    ..

  • Canukistani

    Good evening folks. Most of you probably don’t know me, but I know you’ve been having issues with Ricki and her sidekick. Having had some of those issues myself in other places in the past I thought I’d offer some info and observations that you and the moderator here might find useful if you want them. If not, sorry I disturbed you and I’ll move along.

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      Can’t speak for everyone, but go ahead on my part.

      • Canukistani

        Let’s give folks a minute or two to react. I can say that i have no good words to say about her or what happened to you or to myself and my other friends because of her.

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          kinda figured.

        • FaunaAndFlora

          Hey Canuk! I’m here too.

          • Canukistani

            Good to see ya!

      • FaunaAndFlora

        Good to see you, Spiffy.

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          🙂

    • 17

      I’ll vouch for you. Let ‘er rip!

      • Canukistani

        Thanks. Spiffy knows me too although I see a few faces here that don’t and after what you’ve been through, I can’t blame anybody who might be suspicious.

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          Spiffy knows everything @.@ (except advanced math and anything techie..)

          • notisaidthepig

            yep.

          • Canukistani

            🙂

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            (Seriously, math hates me.)

          • Canukistani

            Me too when I run out of fingers.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yup

          • smkngman3
          • notisaidthepig

            LOL!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            😛 I love you to.

          • Nancy

            so glad he’s here and back to his usual smart ass self!

          • notisaidthepig

            Me too!

          • Nancy

            and then there is YOU!!!
            this feels great!

          • notisaidthepig

            awwww. so nice. oink!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            lol yes.

      • Canukistani

        Just after the time that Ricki started blowing up at RS a few months back I banned her from a private site I have for stalking and harassing several of my friends there with the same kind of nonsense she’s been pulling on you. She has a number of socks including Garza who I guess you’ve met. I have a few of their names I can pass along too, although she’ll probably change them. i have a few IP addresses she’s used too and they aren’t quite so easy to change. But wait there’s more …

      • Canukistani

        From what I could see, the whole thing of her setting up a site (which I’m pretty sure Nebdem did for her) was to have a space she could control and victims to be able to play games with. She can’t control herself and knowing how she is, it was doomed from the start.

        • notisaidthepig

          My god. That sounds so sick.

          • Canukistani

            She is sick. It took me a while to realize what was going on too, but because I trusted a few people who told me what they;d seen and I could follow up with my own observations and the mod side of a site, it became pretty clear.

            She lied to all of you folks, with that Garza bullshit and the idea of roaming Disqus mods and a whole lot of other stuff. And since she could delete comments she could keep things looking ok for a while and keep you all confused. It was all shit and Nebdem actively aided and abetted her all the way.

          • Nancy

            I checked with disqus and knew it was a lie…they don’t mod sites
            Neb is so taken in and now complicit in the lies.

          • Nevin

            Yep. Neb lied to me when we were exchanging emails. Garza has only had the account since July 29, 2016

          • Nancy

            so sad to see him going down in flames over something like this.

          • notisaidthepig

            Sounds like he deserves it though. I suppose I was being naive trusting them but fuck it. It’s on them, not me.

          • Nancy

            exactly Mr. Pig…

          • Dosido3

            Same here pig…

          • Edwin

            Fuck ’em. The sick twisted fucks.

          • FaunaAndFlora

            I get the impression that he’s been wallowing in those flames for a long time.

          • Nancy

            wow, I wasn’t aware of that.

          • lindajoyous

            He is allowing it though!

          • Nancy

            oh I know…

          • lindajoyous

            Good to see you!

          • Nancy

            xo! 😉

          • lindajoyous

            🙂

          • Dosido3

            I used to feel sorry for enablers too but I don’t anymore. On some level, the abusers’ actions work for them, too.

          • Nancy

            yup…there is a payoff for them.
            i have worked with abused women and children for years…the sick dance that is played out, over and over, is deeply rooted.

          • Edwin

            it’s one thing to offer someone a shoulder to cry on, it’s another to become a partner in crime and attack others – I don’t feel sorry for him

          • Nancy

            yes, he’s crossed that line.

          • Edwin

            I told them in my email 🙂

          • Nancy

            I can only imagine how great that email is!

          • notisaidthepig

            Indeed.

          • Edwin

            short and sweet

            What date do you expect the next crown contest? I can mark it on my calendar and drop by to observe.

            Interrogation #2 in your TBR chatzy room crossed the fucking line. Now you know. Ciao.

          • Canukistani

            They even say they don’t. They don’t do more than they absolutely have to. Besides, there are thousands of sites using Disqus. How many mods would they need, I wonder.

            And another thing. Roxanne from RS, who I have no love for, might have looked at Icky’s site for a laugh, but she wouldn’t have any sway there. She probably doesn’t like Icky either.

          • Nancy

            seriously-it’s not that big or important.
            they were worried about Edwin finding out things about them as she insisted he was friends with 17. that was the real issue-the other sites being upset was the ruse to run him off.

          • FaunaAndFlora

            That’s a perfect example of their lunacy… telling such stupid lies just to run someone off because he talked to someone else they ran off. Even creating a fake “roaming mod” while blaming two people (Roxane and Karoli) from other sites.

          • Nancy

            lol, Neb didn’t like when I posted that from the disqus site…

          • cathyx

            Exactly. Why is it so bad to comment on other sites, or talk to other people? Such controlling ways. She didn’t want her illness to get out, she didn’t want us to compare notes.

          • Canukistani

            Also true. As i said, I have no love for Roxanne – that’s another one with issues, but I can’t believe she’d really care about anything going on at Icky’s place.

          • Nancy

            lol, delusions of grandeur!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            I can. Roxy stalked people at my own little blog. It was just a channel on diqus. They banned someone from RS because they posted there.

          • Canukistani

            They banned me over something trivial when I complained to a few people about it on ET. That they’d do. But they don’t have the power to shut down other people’s sites or make rules for them.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yup

          • Edwin

            I wonder if she has giant beautiful knockers or something and Neb is a total perv.

          • Dosido3

            I don’t trust any of y’all! You’re either knee deep in Cheetos dust and live in your mommy’s basement or you’re ole men who watch pretty panties run. I checked on myself and you can all trust me! I swear! :p

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            :))

          • Nancy

            lol, I don’t think he’s into women. am I wrong? I just never got that vibe from him and when he would go on about Wolf Blitzer’s beard-it sounded very sexual to me. not trying to start rumours here-just found it odd.

          • Edwin

            Wolf Blitzer’s beard???????????

            gawd, I miss fucking everything (and eeew)

          • notisaidthepig

            I missed that too. My beard is much nicer, methinks.

          • Nancy

            I agree 😉

          • notisaidthepig

            awww. oink!

          • Nancy

            lol, it was at Raw during the debates that CNN hosted. it was ultra creepy.

        • Nancy

          it really was just going to be a matter of time.

          • Canukistani

            Yup. She can seem reasonable for a while and then she has an outburst and everything goes to hell.

            And, BTW, even if you ban somebody they can still read a page, so I know she’ll see this at some point too. Anything you say here she may try to use against you in other places. Ask 17 about how he was harassed.

          • Nancy

            I am aware-I am not afraid of her. I am very connected in my city with the RCMP as well as city police. she’d be very stupid to try anything.

          • Canukistani

            I don’t think there’s anything major to be afraid of other than lots of harassing phone calls. She seems to like to do that if she can. When I banned her she sent me a few outraged emails and i ignored all of them. I have no interest in talking to her or providing any documentation she can alter to suit her purposes.

          • Nancy

            same-she loves to fight and like all abusers-thrives on it. I and many others see right through her need to do that. she’ll be really stupid to even make phone calls. lol, I work as a therapist and and patterned with the courts, police and lawyers-lol, for real…and I even assist people to obtain Protection Orders.

          • Canukistani

            She does. It seems she can’t live without the battles. Hopefully she won’t bother anybody here, but I wanted to lay to rest as much of her garbage as I could and make it as clear as possible that the farther you stay away from her the better. I wouldn’t even fight with her because when you give her that attention, she feels she wins. Instead, ignore the hell out of her. That does bother her.

          • Nancy

            exactly. she has sent me nothing.
            she knows better. I will not engage in any of that insanity-they love it and the big win is walking away!

          • Canukistani

            Yup.

          • lindajoyous

            Hi. I think I’ve been to your site before, good to see you! Ricki drilled me about 17 before she banned him.

          • Canukistani

            Hi. Yeah, she loves to play power games. I think that’s largely what her site was about. The nonsense she sent Plum was hilarious to a lot of us, but I think she really expected it to work.

            At various times she’s been black and a British expat and a millennial and worked for a government agency where they take random names for their assignments. It’s all bullshit.

          • cathyx

            It worked at Alan.com. They banned 17.

          • Canukistani

            Yeah, I heard about that. They may not understand that there are no Disqus police waiting to shut down sites and they may not have wanted any trouble,. That whole thing was bogus too.

          • cathyx

            I think they didn’t want to be involved with any trouble, and it was easier just to ban him.

          • Canukistani

            That’s probably true. But so everyone knows, Disqus is a free, optional plugin to a website. If they started to try to control sites the owners would delete it and use something else.

            Also, when the Disqus people can take days or weeks to answer a question, why would they be paying bands of roaming moderators? The whole thing is Icky-nonsense.

          • cathyx

            Do you know how many sites use disqus as the comment section? Thousands, probably 10s of thousands. They would need a huge team to be able to monitor all of them.

          • Canukistani

            Yup. And I don’t think they have the budget let alone the desire. I know I’ve never seen them at any site I’ve been a mod at. Admittedly that’s only a couple, but you’d think that in the last few years i would have seen something if it was there.

          • FaunaAndFlora

            Don’t forget she’s friends with rock stars too!

          • Canukistani

            Oh. I hadn’t heard that one.

          • FaunaAndFlora

            You didn’t post on the C&L music thread. She bragged about knowing a few rockers.

          • Canukistani

            That may be from her time a s secret agent in England.

          • Nancy

            the Beatles and the Stones??!!!
            😉

          • FaunaAndFlora

            Seems like she mentioned The Who. And she was neighbors with someone from Stiff Little Fingers.

          • Nancy

            are you kidding?
            ;-O

          • FaunaAndFlora

            No kidding!

          • Nancy

            oh dear.
            I actually have true stories about some rock stars from my groupie days…I should have shared with her!
            😉

          • notisaidthepig

            I hope you share one day!

          • Nancy

            😉
            back in the day, whew!

          • FaunaAndFlora

            Share with me! 😉

            I’ll see you later, Nancy, now that you’re hanging out in a friendlier locale. Take care, dear friend.

          • Nancy

            awe, you have made my night!

          • FaunaAndFlora

            Probably!

          • lindajoyous

            Wow, I didn’t know all that! I’m glad it finally came to a head and all of can move on! Life is to short for all of the nonsense! I don’t like liars!

          • Canukistani

            And she goes on about hating liars too. i don’t think she owns a mirror 🙂

          • lindajoyous

            Wow, glad I left, that is some serious mental stuff going on!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            *cuddles hte linda*

          • lindajoyous

            Cuddles Spiffy back!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            🙂

          • lindajoyous

            🙂

          • lindajoyous

            🙂

          • Canukistani

            No doubt about it.

          • Nancy
          • Canukistani

            Yup. Now you’re getting the idea.

          • Nancy

            I was quite aware of that personality type and these tactics…she showed her hand and now I am posting this all over so people can be aware of what these people look like.

          • Nancy

            it’s horrifying to watch it…right out of a movie.

          • Canukistani

            Oh yeah. I feel sorry that she’s that way, but after all the harms she’s done, she doesn’t seem to be trying to get help, so she doesn’t get a pass on it.

          • Nancy

            yes, there is no sympathy from me. she needs to be institutionalized.
            she is sick, she needs help and this is dangerous to have her out doing what she’s doing.

          • Edwin

            How about her husband? She told me he died. Then she told me he was murdered. Is that true? She told me when she wanted my sympathy and to shut me up.

          • Canukistani

            From what I’ve been able to gather he was killed by someone who was cleared of a murder charge. It was ruled justifiable I think. So that’s not exactly true.

          • Edwin

            Just wondered. Obviously I don’t want to hear that about anyone, but how can we know what is true and what is lies?

          • Canukistani

            We can’t for sure, unless it’s Icky. Then we know it’s lies – unless she can fool you with a bit of truth in the middle of them. She’s had a lot of practice.

          • FaunaAndFlora

            Scroll down to “Police clarify details surrounding man’s death’. That was her husband. She’s still using his old Disqus account, although she removed his last name sometime after I met her. (When we first met, her screen name was Ricki Urban.)

            http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/082407/met_194100935.shtml#.V6vsJtQrI1I

          • lindajoyous

            That’s when I first met her to as Ricki Urban!

          • FaunaAndFlora

            I think we’ve met before. Maybe at Canuk’s Great Escape party?

          • lindajoyous

            Yes, I’ve see you too, good to see you!

          • FaunaAndFlora

            Good to see you too. I’ll drop in here from time to time and say hello. Gotta go now. Take care!

          • Edwin

            In that case I’ll try not to call her a bitch. Ricki might make a screen grab if I call her a sick, twisted bitch.

            Thanks for the heads up.

          • Nancy

            LMAO…

        • Edwin

          like a spider web… go on

          • Nancy

            she didn’t know that you were smarter than them…or had more cheerleaders than them!

          • Edwin

            I can be disarming to many

          • Nancy

            yup…

      • Edwin

        (tee hee)

        • The_Fixer

          Edwin, I am particularly in awe of, right in the thick of things the other night during BlogMeltdown ’16, you kept asking about the crown for the 1,000th comment. That was priceless!

          • Edwin

            ^.^

            I asked them about it today in my email too. I told them I wanted to mark the date on my calendar so I could watch.

      • Edwin

        Hands up if you think Ricki really hated to bring 17 up. Somehow when grilling me about my Karoli posts, 17 came up

    • notisaidthepig

      Go ahead, please.

    • Nancy

      hey! great to see you!
      I did see a lot at Plum’s blog. it’s amazing-just stunning actually! wow, so much damage done.

      • Canukistani

        It really is incredible. Some of my friends tried to warn a number of her victims over the months but she really plays the victim card very well. And she slings bullshit (can I say that here?) with the best of them – at least in the short term.

        • Nancy

          I watched and waited…after seeing what was said at Plum’s I knew so many people I knew and trusted couldn’t be all lying. it was the beginning of her end when she sent that letter trying to get 17 banned.
          the depth of deceit is horrifying. she is one sick woman.
          and yes, swearing is allowed!

          • The_Fixer

            Hey Nancy. I did get around to reading that article you linked to. Amazing how much of that behavior we saw out of her. Especially #11 on the list.

          • Nancy

            the first couple were enough to show me that I needed to post it. we all should know who these people are and how they operate. a shocking number of us were raised by them, married them and even have some of these characteristics ourselves.
            #11 has her name all over it!

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          Swearing is okay here.

          For example…

          https://media.giphy.com/media/hYJMvSpmgkt2M/giphy.gif

          • notisaidthepig

            (((a pig bows before his might Queen)))

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            <3

          • Canukistani

            🙂

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            I love that gif. I use it every chance I see an opening.

          • Edwin

            I like this medieval one, but that might not be your taste (which is OK) (I love all that old shit)

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            me 2

          • The_Fixer

            Now that is hilarious!

          • Edwin

            ^.^

        • Edwin

          Unka says even bitch is allowed. My kinda blog. 🙂

          (Because some people ARE bitches.)

          • Canukistani

            Yeah, anybody can set one up, but I thunk they should be honest with their users. IMO the community is everything. Without that, the site is just an empty hall.

          • Nancy

            she said she created the community…not. at. all.
            you create the forum…the community is the posters. where is her community now? here…

          • Canukistani

            I don’t think a lot of site managers really value their communities enough. That might work out on big sites with a lot of turnover but on smaller ones you have to care about your people. They make the site.

          • Nancy

            it was sickening to see what she said about that yesterday…she doesn’t get it at all.

          • Canukistani

            No, it’s all about her. I’m sure that right now she’s thinking it’s everybody’s fault but hers. When there’s nobody else, she’ll go after Nebdem too.

          • Nancy

            yes, i watched her play the victim card with Edwin after her and Neb tag teamed him in a private room for over 2 hours. he said it was horrific. that is what finished me.
            it was totally insane to watch it unfold on the thread.

          • Dosido3

            That stuff whipped right by my pointy head. But I didn’t like Ns passive aggressive entrapment of QS.

          • Nancy

            that was shameful.
            that told me all I need to know about him.

          • Canukistani

            I wouldn’t have put up with two minutes but maybe he hadn’t learned what was going on at the time.

          • Nancy

            no he wasn’t aware of what was going on. when we talked about it the next day it was clear and then he went for it.

          • Edwin

            I posted my screen grabs in another thread. I didn’t get all of it because I am technology-challenged (or just inept) but enough.

          • Nancy

            oh which thread!? I haven’t seen it yet…

          • Edwin

            wait a minute

          • Edwin
          • Nancy

            thanks Edwin! I am off but will go through them tomorrow!
            night!

          • Edwin

            You don’t even need to. I just posted them to show everyone what I said is true. No doubt Ricki will try to convince people I am lying, but I got enough grabs to prove I am not. (I win again)

            Good night. (What’s my nickname for you again? Kitten? Sweetie? Honey? I forgot.)

          • Nancy

            lol, I do want to read them!
            baby-cakes 😉

          • Edwin

            I’m helicopter remember? (you know, that little trick I do before I put on my PJs) (wink)

            Night-night baby-cakes

          • Edwin

            And in this one Ricki brings up 17, (cough) “out of the blue” (because that’s what ALL OF IT has always been about)

          • Edwin

            Ha ha, hadn’t seen your post when I made mine.

          • Edwin

            It was all about her– me, mine, my struggle, you don’t understand, my pain, me, my

          • Nancy

            wasn’t that jaw dropping?

          • Edwin

            I stopped reading after a while and just closed it.

          • Nancy

            it was like a train wreck…

          • Edwin

            Like that movie with the bitch that manipulates everyone and then they find her diary and publish it (and we see Ryan Phillipes sweet cheeks.) And it has the Bittersweet Symphony song. Can’t think of the name.

          • RTIII

            The Huffington Post proves you wrong…

          • RTIII

            ” IMO the community is everything.”

            That is EXACTLY what both Huffington Post AND TBR failed to grasp, among many others…

          • Edwin

            C&L used to be a rockin’ place and now it is a den of morons.

    • Nevin

      Dudly, so good to see you. I gave up on your site because I kept having IP problems. Spill your guys boyfriend.

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        Nevin 🙂

        • Nevin

          Dudley probably knows me as BlueEyedBull.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Ah 🙂

          • Canukistani

            I do and it’s nice to see you. From what I’ve seen I probably disagree with most of you about politics, and maybe some other stuff, but i hated seeing you all being victimized and this goes beyond any other disagreements we might have.

            What’s been happening just isn’t right so I had to speak up. You should know that about me, I guess 🙂

          • Nevin

            It is hard to believe Neb got swept up in all of it.

          • notisaidthepig

            I’m shocked and disappointed.

          • Edwin

            Me too…. and might I add, they’re fucking douchebags

          • Edwin

            They also have not replied to my email (!!!)

          • Canukistani

            Give them time to come up with something abusive enough. Or maybe they’ll try to suck you in again. Don’t buy it.

          • Nevin

            I left their site once, in its infancy. Neb emailed me and asked me to come back. I would say I was back maybe a month.

          • Canukistani

            I’d never go back (although I’m pretty sure I’d be banned in a hurry anyway :-))

          • Nevin

            Did you post there Dudley?

          • Canukistani

            Never. I knew what the place was about as soon as I heard of it. And I’d already banned her months before.

          • Edwin

            I look forward to seeing their reply.

          • Nancy

            hahaha
            you dodged a bullet!

          • Canukistani

            I didn’t know him before, but it became clear by the time I met him that he was her henchman and that was I think in January or so.

          • Nevin

            We met on Huffington Post. We would exchange emails with one another. I considered him a friend. I’m hurt by his actions.

          • Canukistani

            I don’t know how long he’s been under her influence but he’s clearly not a victim now. He’s a partner and an enabler.

          • lindajoyous

            Hi Nevin, wow I used to post at Huffington Post too!

          • Nevin

            Linda, I posted under BlueEyedBull. This was my avatar.

          • lindajoyous

            Cool, I remember you, my screen name at huffpost was lindajoy111! Good to see you. 🙂

          • Nevin

            You as well. After HP people scattered all over the place.

          • lindajoyous

            I stayed just for a little while and didn’t know where everyone went to, then found everyone at Rawstory!

          • Nevin

            Can you still post at Rawstory?

          • lindajoyous

            Yes I can and everywhere except the people’s view!

          • Nevin

            I’ve never been to the people’s view. I can’t imagine you doing anything to get banned.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            She upvoted people there and didn’t say anything. She got bitched at for upvoting the wrong people. They are that pathetic.

          • Nevin

            Thanks Spiffy.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yw? lol

          • lindajoyous

            Then I posted a Bernie article then got abused and then banned!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yup

          • lindajoyous

            🙂

          • lindajoyous

            It’s a Hillary supporter website and they ban all Bernie supporter, one called me lindajoyless! Thank you Nevin!

          • RTIII

            Please leverage that ability to help us bring here our lost friends! 🙂

          • lindajoyous

            Ok Rt, let me know!

          • RTIII

            I will, but also be open to requests to “fetch” people! I am UNLIKELY to notice because, frankly, I’m never going back there! 🙂

            Mostly, you’ll hear me cheering you on! It will be the brave souls who continue to monitor TBR who can clue you in to action! 🙂

          • MsPythia

            I am too. I liked Neb. I don’t know why he has tied himself to that.

          • Nevin

            Or we have been deceived all this time by him.

          • Nancy

            it’s been rough-for many of us and to do this is very much appreciated!

          • Canukistani

            After how badly she behaved and how ruthlessly she pursued a few of my friends, I didn’t want to see it happen to anybody else. There was no point taking that to her site when i found out about it so all I could do was wait for her to start alienating people and then try to help if I could. That’s why i posted at Plum’s too and tried to lay out what I knew about her. 17 saw that.

          • Nancy

            it was a eye opener for many of us that read it and put a few people on alert. this latest melt down was not a surprise…just a matter of time.

          • Canukistani

            Yeah, I knew some of what was going on and it didn’t surprise me, so I was happy to see some of you start to find your way out of that. A lot of us posted at Plum’s to try to help too. We all saw what she did and had a very open discussion about it. Ricki can only do her shit as long as the people around her don’t know her.

          • Nancy

            exactly-I knew it was bad when she was trying to silence 17…that was when she really started working on us to believe her
            too many things didn’t add up and it was then I just let her talk and then waited.

          • FaunaAndFlora

            I always wondered about your take on the situation.

          • Nancy

            I knew she was a bit of a drama queen but more or less had very little knowledge of the things that went on with you all. I had been out of that loop for a while.
            the posts from Plum’s were telling-too many of you had too many stories.
            that spoke volumes to me. I let her talk and frankly didn’t believe much of what she said. I just waited and sure enough…she ws horrible to Edwin, told lies on the thread and I watched her spin and manipulate the thread trying to cover her ass. it was all I needed to see.

          • FaunaAndFlora

            She was stalking several people that we both know, which is why she was banned from the upnorth site. She even doxxed someone’s elderly mother. That’s evil.

          • Nancy

            I saw that at Plum’s.
            so low…and yes, evil.

          • RTIII

            I’d be happy to collect that data, if you can, from you about this… I have an article I’m working on about this type of thing…

          • RTIII

            The more actual evidence you can find, I’ll publish under that article… 🙂

          • FaunaAndFlora

            Talk to 17 and check out Plum’s site.

          • RTIII

            That’s not helpful, been there, done that.

            I’m looking for NEW dirt.

          • FaunaAndFlora

            Wait and watch then. Ricki and Neb will give you more. They can’t help it. Or you can go to this link and scroll back to February. You’ll see Ricki going nuts for several weeks, spewing all sorts of nastiness. Some people started going in behind her and reposting her comments so she couldn’t go back later and delete.

            http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1236143-the-long-house/?sidebar=morein

          • Canukistani

            That got pretty funny too.

          • RTIII

            Fortunately for me, I’m not that interested. … I DO have an interest in publishing factually supported issues with them, at least in so far as it pertains to our larger issues… But for that, people have to send me great data; my role is to publish…

          • Canukistani

            Fauna’s right. If you read the whole thread at Plum’s you’ll get some additional info.

          • RTIII

            You haven’t yet read my response above! 🙂

          • Canukistani

            There’s a lot to keep up with 🙂 I’ll look up.

          • RTIII

            Yes, and even if you don’t agree with our Progressive politics here, I feel comfortable in saying for the entire group:

            YOU are more than welcome here!

            While I think we may disagree about our voting choice for POTUS, _you_ are prepared to discuss our differences in a rational, informed, competent way, and if we may – in either direction – present contrary information, YOU will consider it. THAT is the kind of person we all love here! 🙂

          • Canukistani

            Honestly, I’ve seen a lot of bitter, angry comments posted on a few sites by some of the people here, and we’ll probably disagree about a lot of that stuff. But that wasn’t why I stopped in here and I don’t want to get into that. We’re all entitled to make our own choices as long as we have honest information to base them on.

            I just wanted to provide information that might help you understand what happened to you and pass along info about Icky that I thought the mod here might appreciate having.

          • RTIII

            OK… …Perhaps I over-stated things.

            Let me say this: While I think you and I may disagree from time to time, I think your ability to disagree and not be disagreeable about it is exceptional, and I would hope that I and many of my friends here are capable of the same.

            And so, I’m hopeful, you’ll hang with us and continue to add your insights to ours.

          • Nancy

            did you know that Canuki has his own blog?

          • RTIII

            I do, and I’ve been there at least once! 🙂

          • Canukistani

            Thank-you and I think I can do that, but I’ve seen a lot of nastiness out there and these days I rarely get very involved in political debates. Things are too polarized this time around. There’s too much heat and not much light. The pro and anti arguments for every candidate are way over the top. And that’s not for me.

            I have a peaceful little place that’s nice and quiet and calm and I don’t venture out much and I plan to keep it that way. So I may drop in from time to time, but I don’t think I’ll have time to be a regular and I certainly won’t get embroiled in your battles.

            I’ve seen a lot of stuff from everywhere including from some people here that’s meant for stronger stomachs than mine, I guess. I have no tolerance for it though.

          • RTIII

            You have my respect.

            I _think_ I still have a link to your place – haven’t been there since the Huffugee reunion – and may stop in … Have been meaning to do so for a LONG time but get caught up in daily matters… I’m also building a new progressive site, and hopefully that’ll be worthy of my time and attention from you and yours and also the people here. But it’s a ways out. In the mean time, I’m trying to help Jill Stein’s campaign; a win doesn’t require her becoming president, it only requires the Democratic Party realizing that lip-service to progressive causes will cost them elections and so give us more service to our needs…

            Maybe all that’s beyond your interests, and that’s OK… But, again, know you have my respect…

          • Canukistani

            She had to chase anybody away who started to figure anything out. She’s like an abusive spouse. She has to break everyone’s ties with any outside influence so she can control them.

          • cathyx

            That’s exactly what she did with 17 and me. She tried it with Edwin, but he was too popular with the group, that was her downfall.

          • Canukistani

            Yeah, the way she is it always would have been something. She always takes it a step too far. I don’t think she can help herself. but she causes a lot of misery before she’s found out.

          • FaunaAndFlora

            Going after Plum was the beginning of their downfall.

          • Canukistani

            Yup. Plum has a lot of friends. I’m one of them too.

          • Nancy

            her posting that letter sure got the ball rolling. did they seriously think after all everyone has been through that Plum would ban 17? WTF!!!

          • Canukistani

            She may have though nobody from her place would see it.

          • Nancy

            she told me all about it and linked me to the site-it was very clever of her because she got out ahead of it and tried to control the narrative. she called Spiffy, me and Ms. P into a chatzy room and told us all about how 17 was stalking her etc. etc. etc. she also used the fact that so many of us were estranged over politics to discount them and what else was being put up by others there. I knew when I saw a few of you there, that it must be true what the others were saying.
            I continued to just watch and wait, but I knew then it wasn’t that everyone was lying-it was her that was.

          • Canukistani

            I wasn’t aware of any of that, but it did seem to me that once people started getting their info from Plum’s that the cat was out of the bag. That was one of the reasons I posted there and laid out as much as I did about here MO. I’d seen it all before.

          • Nancy

            when I saw you and filo as well as a couple of other people I trust, I knew it was all true.

          • Canukistani

            I appreciate the vote of confidence. Both of us try to be straight shooters even when it’s not necessarily the easy thing to do. In this case it was though 🙂

          • Nancy

            no problem…

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Oh yeah, I haven’t seen filo in forever. ;/ I think some of my friends are any D people and probably gave spiffy teh boot without mentioning it.

          • Edwin

            that’s what they did with me– chatzy interview #1, all about 17 stalking her and how was I involved

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Not enough fucks in the world to describe this.

          • Edwin

            x10

          • Nancy

            lol, it’s all so sickening now….
            I did talk to someone after our encounter about my suspicions…I knew it was time to be careful.

          • Edwin

            total fucking whackjobs

            good thing this all came to a head before we were seriously damaged (any of us)

          • Nancy

            yes…it is a good thing. I am so glad there was a smooth transition to this site.
            makes it seem like it never happened and it’s so stressless here.

          • MsPythia

            I totally agree. This shit is NUTS.

          • Edwin

            Like “Silence of the Lambs” and they wanted to separate us and drop us down in that hole

          • Nancy

            great analogy…

          • Edwin

            ^.^

          • Edwin

            —>> she called Spiffy, me and Ms. P into a chatzy room and told us all about how 17 was stalking her etc. etc. etc.

            Jeebus effing keerist, that’s one sick sick woman

          • FaunaAndFlora

            I don’t really know Plum, but people who do have told me that she doesn’t take any shit. They picked the wrong gal to mess with, that’s for sure.

          • Nancy

            indeed!

          • Canukistani

            No doubt about it. She can be razor sharp and she puts up with zero bullshit. I always liked her, but she’s rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, especially the pro birthers.

          • Edwin

            Plum has always been solid with me

          • Nancy

            yup…classic.

          • RTIII

            MAYBE, we can, collectively, put forward a request to Disqus to have HER banned. I mean, look at how many people she has harmed?! DAMN…

            BUT, we need evidence…

          • Canukistani

            I doubt the Disqus folks would care. It’s very hard to do anyway, I’d think. Create a new account and get a new IP address and you’re in.

            I think the best that people can do is spread the word. i doubt she has too many places she can go now anyway. And that circle will keep shrinking.

          • RTIII

            …I’ve BEEN to Disqus and know some of their database staff personally… Don’t over or under-estimate what I might accomplish! 🙂 …I am a techno-geek, like them, and …

          • Canukistani

            I have a little skill too, but I don’t see how they could do it. They’d have to ban Tor and VPNs too.

          • RTIII

            The database people can do _anything!_ 🙂

          • Canukistani

            Ok.

          • Edwin

            good to know

          • RTIII

            He’d know your avatar in a second! 🙂

    • RTIII

      You are VERY welcome here! Many of us know you! 🙂

    • Edwin

      It seems you are Canadian and a Mountie, no less, so you must be beyond reproach.

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        I remember a few years ago reading about an RCMP scandal though don’t remember what it was.

        • Edwin

          They didn’t get their man?

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            It was a scandal involving first nations, though it’s been a while since I read it.

  • Canukistani

    I’m going to post the cock names and IP addresses I’m aware that Icky has been using so your mod can ban them all from commenting:

    moderated: Edited for the following reason: IP addresses, especially when associated with user names could be considered private information and publicly posting them could be considered doxing.

    • Nevin

      We are a wealth of information.

    • Canukistani

      That’s sock names above, sorry.

      • FaunaAndFlora

        Well, Ricki and Neb are a couple of… oh never mind. 😉

        • Canukistani

          🙂

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        Typo works.

        • Canukistani

          🙂

    • RTIII

      Thanks, BOTH Canuk, AND Unka! RIGHT UNDERSTANDING, Unka! 🙂

  • SpiffyTheValiant

    We are still looking for Taleisin, TVASPEN, Stephanie (or is she already here), Michael, and Panem Circus.

    • Nevin

      Panem and TVASPEN are still posting at TBR.

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        Someone just informed me that TVA is already here.

        • MsPythia

          Yay! 🙂

      • Edwin

        Yesterday I saw TVASPEN announce he/she was out.

        • Nevin

          I didn’t see that.

        • Dosido3

          Yes. Confirmed. Saw that too.

    • towerofbabel

      Panem was still at TBR I think. Doesn’t belong there. Belongs here.

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        🙂

        • towerofbabel

          Taleisin might be at Raw still, but I was banned there.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            He got banned from there a week or two ago.

          • towerofbabel

            That’s right. I forgot. He went down in a blaze of glory.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Yep. It was epic.

          • smkngman3

            He couldn’t resist posting one of my memes

          • Nancy

            I PM’ed him on FB…no answer yet-may be out in the bush away from wifi.

      • Dosido3

        Panem posted the most awesome vid this morning. I offer it here…
        https://youtu.be/7vN_PEmeKb0

        • Nevin

          You can still post there.

          • Dosido3

            Yeah but I brought you this nice present…

          • Nevin

            Tisk, tisk.

          • Nevin

            You ought to go out in a blaze of glory.

          • RTIII

            Better is to help save someone we’ve otherwise lost!

            But we’ve already had that discussion, I think.

          • Nevin

            There is only a handful of people there now.

          • RTIII

            There may yet be a few who are less frequent posters or who were away for whatever reason… Good that we keep an eye out for them and bring them in if we can! 🙂

          • Dosido3

            No thanks. From my own personal experience I know it’s better not to draw attention to myself when disengaging from someone who strives on drama. Best to be very boring.

          • Edwin

            Words to live by. Better not to draw attention to oneself.

        • notisaidthepig

          So funny!

      • Edwin

        Panem posted 12 hours ago ….. (cough)……….(cough) ……….. pushing them up to 137 comments over 2 days

        • lindajoyous

          No crowns today folks lol!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            lmao even linda is getting catty.

          • Nevin

            I wonder how Ricki feels having a crown and no subjects.

          • lindajoyous

            LOl they did it to themselves!

          • RTIII

            Last I checked – and I understand it’s MUCH worse now – is that it’ll take roughly 7 days for them to have their first 1000 crowning! :))

          • Nevin

            If Oculus didn’t post so much it would be 20 days.

          • RTIII

            😀

          • Edwin

            Now you need a calendar, not a clock.

          • Nancy

            lol…someone slept in the knife drawer last night!

          • Edwin

            Had to look it up. Irish slang.

          • towerofbabel

            Like the Queen of Hearts.

          • Edwin

            That was in my email too.

            It was short and sweet, but I covered all the bases.

          • lindajoyous

            Yep you did!

      • MsPythia

        Panem definitely needs to be here!!!

    • Edwin

      Stephanie said she had to go somewhere for a few days, but hoped we could iron things out at TBR when she got back.

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        oh

    • RTIII

      SMOKIE! …. 🙁 Damn, I miss him.

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      Nice avatar <3

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        <3 My toad! 🙂

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          Catching up, how’s everything?

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Oh I’m good. It’s going to take you a long time to catch up though…

            How are you?

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Fine I suppose, tired from work. Finished my physical therapy stuff so kinda sore.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            awe *massages the toad.*

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Eep! Getting a bit personal there eh 😉 Mon, Wed, Fri is when I do my leg balance and strength exercises. Since I don’t have much sensitivity below the waist I feel it in my upper hip lower back area.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            maybe eh ;). Awe I”m sorry to hear bout the soreness.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            <3

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            <3 yellow blue tibia.

        • Dosido3

          You have Pig! He’s my toad! 🙂

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Gee thanks 😛 ha ha.

          • Dosido3

            Hi buddy! Had you on my mind…

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Cheers 🙂

          • Dosido3

            Hope you’re resting comfy. I take gobs of Advil for everything.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            I’ll live. How are you doing tonight?

          • Dosido3

            I’m ok. Thanks. Still weirded out. I don’t like mind games in the comment sections. Glad to see all my faves here.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            That is certainly some acid trip o_O

          • Dosido3

            Like my screen melted in my hands. 🙁

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            I know. Been reading the comments down thread, shudders.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            le gasp what?!

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Something like this?

            http://t04.deviantart.net/i-qd6Od7-ZcR_wB7Y52umhKfxiI=/fit-in/700×350/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre13/56cd/th/pre/i/2016/115/6/a/mabel_and_waddles_by_greatlucario-da08lum.png

          • notisaidthepig

            Oink!

          • Dosido3

            I’m just playing. 🙂 we can share.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            ok 🙂

      • Edwin

        Hey ya, Daniel.

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          Hey Edwin, how are you doing?

  • smkngman3

    NYT spewing more crap!

    “Hack of Democrats’ Accounts Was Wider Than Believed, Officials Say”
    The widening scope of the attack has prompted the F.B.I. to broaden its
    investigation, and agents have begun notifying a long list of Democratic
    officials that the Russians may have breached their personal accounts.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/11/us/politics/democratic-party-russia-hack-cyberattack.html

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      Hi.

      Such bs though. If they honestly thought they wouldn’t get hacked they’re fucking morons.

      • notisaidthepig

        Hi, Toad.

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          Good evening noti 🙂

      • smkngman3

        The whole blame the Russians is BS.

        If the Russians have the it , so does the NSA.

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          And China, and North Korea, and any script kiddie anywhere.

    • Dosido3

      I’m convinced that our fed govt recruits from the keystone cops. One time an airplane was coming INBOUND from fricking Nigeria or some such place. A passenger paid for a one way ticket, in cash, and had no luggage. Then waited until the plane was close to SFO to charge the cockpit. The response? Up security on OUTBOUND flights. Brilliant!

      • smkngman3

        The Dems / DNC certainly hire recruits from the keystone IT cops.

  • RTIII

    OK, Peeps!

    I really have to disappear for the evening.

    Love you all, and love that we’ve managed to save our community! 🙂

    And, Thanks, Unka…

    • notisaidthepig

      Good night, RT.

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      Good night, don’t work too hard on those engines.

    • lindajoyous

      Goodnight Rt!

    • smkngman3

      Later RT!

  • Canukistani

    I have to be on my way folks. I appreciate the hospitality and if the info I provided was helpful I’m happy to have done it. With that I’ll wish you all a good night.

    • Nancy

      night Canuki! thanks again.

    • smkngman3

      Later.

      • Nancy

        how did you find us Smokey?

        • smkngman3

          dayanmao gave me the heads up at AN.

          • Nancy

            nice…

    • notisaidthepig

      thanks

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      Take care.

    • Dosido3

      Happy trails.

    • lindajoyous

      Goodnight and take care!

  • smkngman3

    “Chris Christie ‘flat out lied’ about Bridgegate: aide”

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/b0/79/a6/b079a6103d787f03fc2ee1ca0acc4c41.jpg

    The bombshell allegation is contained in a text message sent by a senior Christie staffer while her boss held a Dec. 13, 2013, news conference about the infamous traffic jams at the George Washington Bridge three
    months earlier, court papers said.

    http://nypost.com/2016/08/10/chris-christie-flat-out-lied-about-bridgegate-aide/

  • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

    The Federal Communications Commission has lost in an attempt to preempt state laws that restrict the growth of municipal broadband networks.

    The FCC in February 2015 voted to block laws in North Carolina and Tennessee that prevent municipal broadband providers from expanding outside their territories. The FCC, led by Chairman Tom Wheeler, claimed it could preempt the laws because Congress authorizes the commission to promote telecom competition by removing barriers to investment.

    But this was a risky legal argument, as the FCC has no specific authority to overturn state laws. Officials in both states appealed the FCC decision, and today a three-judge panel of the US Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit ruled in favor of the states

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/08/in-blow-to-muni-broadband-fcc-loses-bid-to-overturn-state-laws/

    So now states can ban municipal broadband. Gotta protect those donors.

    • smkngman3

      Fuckers!

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        Corrupt.

    • notisaidthepig

      Damn.

    • The_Fixer

      The Federal government, including its regulatory agencies, has supremacy over state, county and municipal governments. I don’t see how this can stand.

      A good example of this is a Commission regulation called PRB-1. It says that municipalities and state governments cannot prohibit the installation of antennas and their support structures, only regulate them – specifically only with regards to safety (placement, engineering, etc.). Lots of ham radio operators have used PRB-1 so that they could install their towers and antennas. It has been upheld many, many times.

      Due to the nature of communications being more than a local thing, local governments can’t regulate it. This goes for radio, television, wireline – you name it.

      This will likely be overturned. I can’t believe that this decision even came out like this.

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        I imagine if an R or D gets in the whitehouse they’ll suddenly be powerless to stop that while taking bribes from Comcast et al.

        • The_Fixer

          They’ll at least try. Problem is with them trying is that – at least until it gets to the Supreme Court – is that they get away with it for the short term. And depending on the makeup of the SC, it could wind up being permanent.

          I see this tactic here in Wisconsin with Snott Walker. He tries everything and it takes a the top court to yank him back to reality.

          Yup, things are really fucked-up these days. That’s why I am happy to vote for Jill Stein. Yeah, she will likely not win the Presidency this time out. But a movement has to start, and the more visibility, the better.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Agreed.

  • FaunaAndFlora

    I have to go too. It’s getting late and my goats won’t milk themselves in the morning. Enjoyed seeing some old friends (Nancy, Blue and Spiffy) and meeting everyone else.

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      G’night.

    • Dosido3

      Happy trails to you too!

      • Nancy

        I am so glad you are here!

        • Dosido3

          Hey thanks Nancy. I missed you while you were lurking. But that’s ok. Who needs this crap? Such a needless distraction during the revolution! Could you imagine the minute men saying don’t talk to the other militias!

          • Nancy

            it is pointless…we are here now and we can continue on!!!

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          Sames.

          • Dosido3

            😀

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      Cya later. You know where to find us now.

    • Nancy

      you too! xo!

    • notisaidthepig

      Cheers.

    • lindajoyous

      Goodnight, see you soon!

    • smkngman3

      Nite!

    • Nevin

      Nite Fauna.

    • Edwin

      Good night. I remember your name from C&L–music thread?

      • FaunaAndFlora

        Could be. I post there on occasion.

    • MsPythia

      Hi!

  • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

    A startup on a shoestring budget is working to clean up the Android security mess, and has even demonstrated results where other “secure” Android phones have failed, raising questions about Google’s willingness to address the widespread vulnerabilities that exist in the world’s most popular mobile operating system.

    “Copperhead is probably the most exciting thing happening in the world of Android security today,” Chris Soghoian, principal technologist with the Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project at the American Civil Liberties Union, tells Ars. “But the enigma with Copperhead is why do they even exist? Why is it that a company as large as Google and with as much money as Google and with such a respected security team—why is it there’s anything left for Copperhead to do?”

    Copperhead OS, a two-man team based in Toronto, ships a hardened version of Android that aims to integrate Grsecurity and PaX into their distribution. Their OS also includes numerous security enhancements, including a port of OpenBSD’s malloc implementation, compiler hardening, enhanced SELinux policies, and function pointer protection in libc. Unfortunately for security nuts, Copperhead currently only supports Nexus devices.

    http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/08/copperhead-os-fix-android-security/

    • I’d lay money on the idea that Google doesn’t want to clean up security. Or rather, their “partners in government” have convinced them it’s a bad idea.

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        That wouldn’t surprise me, they do love the surveillance state.

    • The_Fixer

      Google is like a child with ADHD. They get a bright idea, and work like hell on it for a short time. Then they lose interest and either do a shitty job maintaining it or they drop it altogether. It’s all about “doing cool stuff”, whether it’s useful, safe or desirable is beside the point.

      The only thing that they are really good at, if measured in monetary terms, is the advertising business. Other than that, they suck.

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        How many “products” do they have in beta? Look at what happened with Nest.

        • The_Fixer

          Exactly!

  • Intolerantcentrist

    Evening, folks !

    I think I recognize quite a few here ! Great seeing ya. Glad to see you all have landed on your feet, and have found a great community to belong to. So sorry for the disaster you’ve all had to endure. It sucked. But, I hope all goes well moving forward. Take care.

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      hi

      • Intolerantcentrist

        Hey kiddo !

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          Long time no see.

          • Intolerantcentrist

            I have a hard time keeping up with your changing screen name 😉

          • smkngman3

            Multiple Personality Disorder.

            She even thinks of herself as “Queen Spiffy”!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            *Gets out the royal trident and waves it at Smokey.* behave.

          • Intolerantcentrist

            Someone has to be Queen.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Dat’s right.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Well always some version of spiffy.

          • Intolerantcentrist

            You’ll always be TL to me !

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            🙂 yeah still have a couple people who call me Lily.

    • Nancy

      thanks for your info! it did help to open some eyes and that made it easier to get out when it hit the fan. thanks for the good wishes and hope things are great with you.

      • Intolerantcentrist

        Things are good. Hope all is well with you to. It was just amazing the level of actual insanity that can pervade the internet. Sorry you got caught up in it.

        • Edwin

          Didn’t you warn me at Plum’s (a while back when I was talking with MVT). (Sorry, so many names.)

          • Intolerantcentrist

            Yep, I did.

          • Edwin

            THx. I thought it was you. I’m fine. We’ve just all been on a roller coaster ride.

    • lindajoyous

      Hi there!

      • Intolerantcentrist

        Hiya, Linda. Things going good?

        • lindajoyous

          Yeah all is going good, how about you! Good to see you!

          • Intolerantcentrist

            Doing good. Great to run into you as well !

    • As Kurt said…

      • Intolerantcentrist

        Thanks ! Nice place you have. Congrats !

    • MsPythia

      Happy you’re here! 😀

  • notisaidthepig

    Debunking the media’s smear campaign against Green presidential candidate Jill Stein
    https://www.rt.com/usa/355444-debunking-jill-stein-smears/

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      I love this tweet, if anyone’s getting “free stuff” it’s the MIC
      https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/720798953147604992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

      • The_Fixer

        How true! Good Evenin’, Daniel.

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          Evening Fixer, how are you?

          • The_Fixer

            Tired as hell. Not gonna be in here very late. I think that staying up too late to watch Blogsplosion ’16 the other night is catching up with me. Hope you’re doing OK.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            I know about the tiredness. Take care of yourself and don’t overdo it.

          • The_Fixer

            You, too! Gotta save our energy for the veneration of Valiant Queen Spiffy 🙂

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            lol, it’ll go to her head.

          • The_Fixer

            Yes, we don’t want her to get excessively regal on our asses 🙂

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            😛 I love you to.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            In moderation my dear, too much and it’ll start affecting your judgement 🙂

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            lol

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            🙂 That’s right.

          • The_Fixer

            Remember,

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yup?

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Are you sure he’s not getting mugged 😀

          • The_Fixer

            Ha! Actually, I got that from an article about this cat that does that spontaneously. The cat’s owner calls him “Goal Cat” for obvious reasons. I thought it looked rather worshipful, so he became the “Hail Queen Spiffy” cat.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            lol

          • smkngman3

            Seems to me that Spiffy is pointing a gun at that poor cat.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            :O How dare you accuse me of having to force adoration from my subjects?

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            lol

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            See what he accused me of?

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Yes, but it’s still funny 😀

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            as pig would say to smokey: Not nice!

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            I agree, but it’s still funny 😀

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            lol

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      Forgot to tell you that I finished Listen Liberal yesterday. Been reading it slowly on the bus/train. Great book.

      • notisaidthepig

        I’m glad you liked it. I’m still recommending it to folks. I thought Frank did an excellent job.

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          It has a lot of good info.

  • smkngman3
    • Nancy

      so it’s ok for him to say that but not ok for Trump to say what he did regarding Hillary? fucking hypocrites.

      • notisaidthepig

        Yep.

        • Nancy

          unbelievable.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Just like Hillary when she talked about Kennedy getting assassinated. Terrible people.

          • Nancy

            yes, wasn’t that awful…they are so brazen. this is coming just days after it’s announced that the DNC staffer that was shot and killed was responsible for the leaks from the DNC.
            they just don’t care who knows how evil they are.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            They believe their wealth insulates them, and to some extent it does 🙁

          • Nancy

            it sure has. she was too sure that she wouldn’t get indicted over the emails. that spoke volumes about her wealth and power.

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      That’s not funny.

    • Edwin

      Is he one of Hitler’s cloned offspring? Jeebus Keeryst

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        He’s just a serious thinker in the beltway, fucking sociopaths.

    • IOKIYAR

      IOKIYAD

      IOKIYAIP – It’s OK, If you’re An Imperial Propagandist…

    • The_Fixer

      So I guess that we can expect him to continue a tradition of honest and unbiased reporting, then?

      Yeah…. I didn’t think so either.

    • MeanValueTheorem

      Christ what a piece of shit that guy is.
      “Journalists” who defend violence against whistle-blowing are vermin.

  • smkngman3

    Hillary Clinton strategist Bob Beckel called for WikiLeaks editor Julian Assange to be assassinated

    https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/763380671796678656

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      Fuck the establishment.

      • Nancy

        you sound like such a hippie!

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          I’m a pacifist it’s true, but even I will fight back and I shower every day 😀

          • Nancy

            😉

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            How are you Nancy?

          • Nancy

            I am good thanks Daniel! it’s been a seamless shift to this place and people are showing up with all sorts of things to say…it’s a fine day.
            I have already read how you are doing-I’ll just shoot you a hug!

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Hugs back 🙂

          • Nancy

            😉

    • Nancy

      they must be very afraid of what he’s got. they do realize that without him all will still go on?

    • The_Fixer

      I would expect that a slimy bastard would be in the employ of one Hillary Clinton.

      • smkngman3

        Need I say more than Brock?

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad
          • The_Fixer

            One of the best Simpson’s episodes ever!

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Excellent taste 🙂

          • The_Fixer

            As you do, too! 🙂

            The problem with that episode is that it is rather prophetic.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            I have been wondering this for awhile. I”m convinced you and Fixer are brothers..

          • The_Fixer

            Why, I certainly consider that a compliment!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            🙂

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Brother yeah, blood relative, those people are insane and evil.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            oh wait you are saying your relatives are insane and evil. One of you must have gotten switched at birth. yes, that explains it.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Yes, they are 🙁

          • The_Fixer

            I had an evil older brother. He kept me and my younger brothers and sister captive for nearly 3 years. I know of what you speak.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            🙁

          • The_Fixer

            Yeah. If I had the money at the time, I would have driven down to Arizona and danced on his grave. Glad the motherfucker is dead.

          • Nevin

            That’s the way I felt about my brother.

          • The_Fixer

            Yup, I understand. That article that Nancy linked to about toxic people? He did just about all that stuff, and more.

          • Nevin

            I bookmarked the article, but haven’t read it yet.

          • The_Fixer

            You will find it very enlightening. There’s a lot of stuff in there that directly relates to a certain person who runs a certain blog where we used to hang out.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            You guys are making me glad I don’t have a brother.

          • Nevin

            He use to beat the shit out of me where I could barely breath. Bastard died, hit and run.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            o.o

          • The_Fixer

            Glad you are free of that and are breathing easy now, Blue!

          • Nevin

            Thank you Fixer. We all seem to have come from dysfunctional families. It is amazing we survived.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            O.O captive? well i am glad the fixer is free now!

          • The_Fixer

            Me, too. Every day after school, we had better be in our bedrooms, and laying on our beds or he would punish us in the most creative ways. All involving some form of physical or mental abuse. We were threatened with worse if we ratted him out to my mom (mom and dad were divorced, he was not around). We lived in fear for damn near 3 years until my mother kicked him out of the house for an unrelated reason. Once we were convinced he was not going to be back in the house, we told her what was going on and she was horrified.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            O.o Oh wow. *hugs tightly and heads off to bed*

          • The_Fixer

            Sorry to be a bummer. Just understand that sometimes a “big, happy family” is nowhere to be found.

            Anyway, I do hope that My Queen has a restful night. I am off soon as well. G’Night!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Next time.. I should probably say sister <3 night.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            <3 they don't deserve my toad. *kisses him and turns him into a prince.* you can borrow Cinderella's carriage.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            <3 cause you are both awesome, so should be brothers.

        • The_Fixer

          To borrow an old advertising slogan, “When you say Brock, you’ve said it all!”

        • MeanValueTheorem

          Or Mark Penn?

    • rattypilgrim

      What??!! After Trump’s statement? Unbelievable.

      • Nevin

        Hi Ratty.

      • Edwin

        Hi.

    • MeanValueTheorem

      Holy shit.

  • smkngman3
  • smkngman3

    “4 Years Later, Sweden Accepts Ecuador’s Offer to Hear Assange”

    More than four years after Ecuador offered Swedish authorities the opportunity to interview Julian Assange in the nation’s London Embassy, a deal appears to have been struck Wednesday after Ecuador’s attorney general responded positively to a request from the Swedish government to
    interview the WikiLeaks founder in the building.

    http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/4-Years-Later-Sweden-Accepts-Ecuadors-Offer-to-Hear-Assange-20160810-0039.html

    • Nancy

      they will use this as an opportunity to have him killed.

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      They’ve interviewed him enough times already.

  • Nancy

    Prison Break is back-the original cast and they will have a whole new season!
    http://collider.com/prison-break-season-5-trailer/

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      Yeah, that’s why Captain Cold (Miller) won’t be a regular on Flash this season 🙁 I liked his snarkiness.

      • Nancy

        I am rather excited about this. loved the show and was sad to see it end.

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          True, but I also would like a Captain Cold hour where he goes around robbing banks and being snarky.

  • smkngman3

    “Israel Razes More EU-Funded Homes for Palestinians”

    More than 20 Palestinians were made homeless on Tuesday after Israel destroyed five homes in the South Hebron Hills of the West Bank — three of which were funded by the European Union — Israeli human rights group B’Tselem reported.

    ====================================

    According to Middle East Eye, the Hathaleen family — whose homes were
    destroyed — owns a deed to the land on which the village sits. The
    neighboring Israeli settlement of Carmel was built in the 1980s on land
    belonging to the Hathaleens.

    http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Israel-Razes-More-EU-Funded-Homes-for-Palestinians-20160809-0031.html

  • Nancy

    oh this should be good…make no wonder they want him dead:
    http://yournewswire.com/julian-assange-says-fresh-leaks-will-rock-european-politics/

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      Ding ding ding. Can’t expose and embarrass the crooks.

      • Nancy

        going to be exciting…I wonder how many people are lying awake at night over this?

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          Good question, their plotting is what worries me.

    • Edwin

      I hope the Ecuad0rian emb@ssy doesn’t go BO0M.

  • Annaleigh

    Hey everybody, I’m back! 😛 Been back for a little while but was vegetating in front of the boob tube a little while and letting my mom have what I found for her at the mall. Totally pooped, had to do no meds and an all-nighter to pull off the trip, and then I ended up misjudging the bus schedules and getting home later than I would have liked. I saw my friend’s sister while I was there and thanks to my schedule misjudgement I ended up regretting my decision not to make eye contact with her so she wouldn’t spot me and feel like she had to give me a ride back to town!

    Still nothing from Snowden. 🙁 Not much of an update to give on Ferguson…I exchanged tweets with Heather who was livestreaming when all of that went down but she didn’t know what condition the protester that got by the car was in, only that he went to the hospital as did an older lady who fell when running from the gunshots, and thankfully no one got shot.

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      Thanks for the update. I hope you get some rest tonight.

      • Annaleigh

        Thanks Daniel, I will. 🙂

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      Hey Anna. Good to see you. Gonna head ot bed though.

      • Annaleigh

        Hey Spiffy, nitey nite. Probably be me too soon when the meds kick in.

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          <3

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          I’ll join you both, tired.

          • Nevin

            Three way…kinky.

      • lindajoyous

        Goodnight Spiffy!

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          night linda

    • MsPythia

      Hi Annaleigh! Very worrisome that Snowden is missing…

  • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

    Good night everyone. Take care.

    • Nevin

      Nite Daniel.

    • Edwin

      Good night, hypno.

    • lindajoyous

      Goodnight Daniel!

    • The_Fixer

      Good Night, Daniel. Sleep well.

  • smkngman3

    My time’s up. See you later.

    • The_Fixer

      G’Night Smokey. Very cool to see you and your posts tonight. Take care!

    • lindajoyous

      Goodnight Smokey!

      • MsPythia

        Hi Linda! 😀

        • lindajoyous

          Hi MsPythia, how are you? I just learned my son is getting married! 🙂

          • Edwin

            Good news. I guess you are excited.

          • lindajoyous

            Yeah, I hope it works out, this will be his second marriage!

          • MsPythia

            Wow! Congratulations Linda! <3

          • lindajoyous

            Thanks, it will be his second marriage, hope this on works out! 🙂

          • MsPythia

            I hope so too! 🙂

          • lindajoyous

            Thanks! 🙂

    • MsPythia

      Smokey is Here! So happy! <3

      • Edwin

        We just have to round up a few more.

        • MsPythia

          Yes. We need Smot here. He needs to be with us.

          • Nevin

            Closing all the threads at TBR was their way of saying you are not going to be able to give out the location of where you went.

          • MsPythia

            It’s an act of vindictive and petty assholishness. Smot is an old friend of ours, and he needs the support of his friends. He’s been through so much lately.

          • Nevin

            The Shadow posted to Kreskin at TBR. They deleted the post. Don’t know if a deleted comment still shows up in notifications.

          • MsPythia

            No, if it’s deleted it won’t show in Disqus notifications, but if you have Disqus set up to email you notifications when people reply to you, you can still read them.

          • Nevin

            We better hope he has email notifications.

          • MsPythia

            Yeah. He’s probably wondering where we all went.

          • Nevin

            He only made one comment there. As a matter of fact no one has posted there for 9 hours.

          • MsPythia

            Wow. Real meltdown.

          • Nevin

            You need to go further down on this thread starting at the 3 hour mark and keep reading further down. You will find some very interesting things about Neb and Ricki.

          • lindajoyous

            I know and I’m very surprised, when that happened with 17 she drilled me for information!

          • Nevin

            Those two, Neb and Ricki, deserve one another.

          • lindajoyous

            Two peas in a pod!

          • Edwin

            This time it wasn’t just one person they fucked over. It was our whole group and now we all know and will tell everyone (who cares to know)

          • Nevin

            Sounds like people already knew Ricki was crazy. Now Neb just ruined his reputation.

          • Edwin

            The number of people who know they’re crazy is about to grow exponentially. Nowhere to hide.

          • Edwin

            It seems a lot of us got drilled for info about 17.

            It’s like they built a trap and lured us in to play their twisted psycho games with us.

          • lindajoyous

            Wow didn’t know she drilled so many peeps about 17. I don’t need that stuff in my life!

          • MsPythia

            Okay — will do.

          • Nevin

            Canukistani started the conversation, but you will run into Intolerantcentrist first.

          • MsPythia

            Glad they’re here too! Damn — this is great! I love being out of the TBR jail!

          • Nevin

            I don’t anticipate Canukistani will be here often. Guess he heard what went on at TBR and decided to fill everyone in.

          • MsPythia

            I hope he reaches people we can’t reach then.

          • Nevin

            I think he pretty much stays at his site. He did mention plum(?) and posting there what he knew about Neb and Ricki.

          • MsPythia

            Okay — thanks for the info.

          • Edwin

            Are you saying you don’t know Plum? She’s a big part of this whole twisted-psycho-drama. Ricki and Neb are out to get her too.

          • Nevin

            The name sounds familiar, but I’ve never been to their site.

          • Edwin

            You need to check out this thread. Jaw dropping!!!!!!

            http://plumstchili.blogspot.kr/2016/07/the-banned-room-just-sent-me-this-pile.html

          • Nevin

            Wow. I didn’t read the comments, will do that tomorrow.

          • Edwin

            I’m sure you’ll learn some things. I did.

          • Edwin

            about 20 comments today (?)

          • Nevin

            You’re right.

          • Edwin

            Their own fucking fault. Too fucking bad.

          • MsPythia

            Btw, has anyone seen MVT? I’d love to chat with him — it’s been too long!

          • lindajoyous

            Yes I was chatting with him last night on the flip side!

          • MsPythia

            Does he know we’re all here? Tell him I’ve been asking after him! 🙂

          • lindajoyous

            Yes he does I think!

          • MsPythia

            Good! Happy about that! I love that guy!

          • lindajoyous

            Yes we had a great visit last night, I hope Shohanna makes it here too!

          • MsPythia

            Yes! Shohanna is awesome!

          • lindajoyous

            She is real nice to chat with!

          • Nevin

            I don’t know who that is.

          • MsPythia

            Mean Value Theorem

          • Nevin

            OK. Now I know who you are talking about.

          • MsPythia

            He’s a Raw Reject like lots of us! 😀

          • MeanValueTheorem

            right here MsP 😀

          • MsPythia

            YAY!!! So happy to see you! It’s been ages! <3

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Same!

            Your tbrexit was wonderful to read.

          • MsPythia

            😀 I’m glad you read it! Do you think that Ricki and Neb are actually in contact with Roxanne?

          • MeanValueTheorem

            No.
            If so, why would they give a damn what she thinks?
            After seeing that letter they sent to Plum I can’t begin to imagine what the reasoning is behind all this.

          • Nevin

            Apparently Ricki as least has been in contact with Roxanne.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Wow. That’s just sad.

          • Nevin

            You should read the stuff that was posted about three hours ago. Ricki is just plain crazy.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Down thread?

          • Nevin

            Down thread about 3, 31/2 hours ago. You’ll know you are at the right spot when you see Intolerantcentrist post. After that you might have to wade through some comments until you get to Canukistani comments. It is an eye opener.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Oh I saw. IC warned Edwin and I a while back. I think when she attacked Plum out of no where. I felt I had to apologize to Plum personally. She’s never been anything but a sweet heart. Watching someone attack her like that was just too much. I was embarrassed by the way Unka was treated too.

            What was done to IP was more subtle, but still visible. The beef with 17 almost happened entirely behind the scenes. You can see things escalating as the weeks went by and the outbursts becoming more severe.

          • Nevin

            I left TBR when they first began because of Ricki deleting comments. Neb emailed me about a month ago and asked me to come back. I had no idea all the drama that was unfolding.

          • Edwin

            I think it’s all about 17. All of it. Everything else is ruse and distraction.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            I think so too. The nasty episodes were triggered by two things:

            1) “You’re in on it with 17!!!”
            2) “How dare you poach commentators from tbr!”

            Since I bounced it seems some other reasons were contrived to justify attacks.
            Real disappointing.

          • Edwin

            In my farewell 2-hour private interrogation in the TBR chatzy room, ostensibly about my “Karoli fixation,” Ricki got around to “I hate to bring up 17, but…”

            Mmm-hmm

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Hating on KK wasn’t what got you on the naughty list. Failing to pass the “us or them” test did. Also acting like you had the freedom to continue associating with whomever you damned well pleased did you no favors. The nerve.

          • Edwin

            Yup.

            I posted all my screen grabs. They already told me it was OK to hate on Karoli because I asked directly and they said it was OK. That was a cover story. I was the newest victim of their twisted-psycho-drama game.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            I remember them saying it was cool.

          • Edwin

            More than once. They hated her too. They told us we could do that stuff.

          • Edwin

            Besides. That was hilarious (for me anyway). I bet a burst a few blood vessels in Karoli’s twisted little brain. Ha ha ha ha ha.

            http://cf.ltkcdn.net/stress/images/std/189580-425×425-Angry-People-Clipart-2.jpg

          • lindajoyous

            Lol, hi MVT, how are you today?

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Good woke up for some reason :}

          • lindajoyous

            🙂

          • Edwin

            Hey, MVT

          • MeanValueTheorem

            ‘sup edwin :]

          • Edwin

            trying to stay cool. day ?_th of our heatwave (draining)

          • MeanValueTheorem

            The heat here was terrible today as well. Something about the heat when it gets this far north, I feel like I’m in the ass crack of a beached whale carcass.

          • Edwin

            There is no end in sight here– they’re saying into September

          • MeanValueTheorem

            As global temps rise I expect places like Korea and the North Eastern U.S./Canada to turn into humid lightening storm infested sauna’s from May to October. Perfect weather for cyclones.

          • Edwin

            And places like Arizona will dry up and fry to a crisp. I would not want to be living in the American SW or Texas.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            If ocean currents change in the Atlantic it’s anyone’s guess. Scotland and Vermont might fall into a deep dry freeze, Upstate NY could become the freaking Gobi Desert. Only one good thing will come out of this mess for sure: Florida will drown. Fuck Florida.

          • Edwin

            Maybe they could jack Key West up on stilts. That place is fun.

            PS I’ll be dead.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            I love parts of FL, gorgeous state with beautiful people. But the bad and the crazy is just too fucking much. We had an office pool about which state was more batshit FUBAR, Arizona or Florida. Floriday won every goddamned week. If I was short on cash and something horrible happened in AZ on Mon or Tue, I was set. Because without fail something horrifically bizarre would happen in FL.Something that would have us all doing the 100 yard stare slowly shaking out heads back and forth.

          • Edwin

            I am a beach lover and they have tons of those. Too bad about the crazy.

            I’ve only been in the Keys, Miami, Hollywood and Ft Lauderdale and they were all nice. Those are probably all the hip, fun parts though.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Oh you just have to visit the pan-handle!

          • Edwin

            Isn’t that where Ricki lives …….(play Jaws music here)

          • MsPythia

            Btw, have you guys been experiencing internet outages tonight? Mine was dead for over an hour, and I looked on the Comcast map (evil fucks who own my area) and it showed that there’s been outages everywhere in the country today and tonight. Not sure what’s going on.

          • lindajoyous

            I have Comcast and had no blackout!

          • MsPythia

            Not everyone did — but some have had it out for most of today.

          • lindajoyous

            Wow, I’ve had my electricity go out for several hours a few times, My sister lived 1 block from me and hers didn’t go out!

          • MsPythia

            Yeah, like I said, I’m not sure what’s going on, but large numbers of people are having lots of trouble. Mine only lasted an hour or so — or I’d have been here sooner!

          • lindajoyous

            Wonder if the weather has anything to do with it!

          • MsPythia

            No idea. Okay, now I’m going to scroll down and read the things about R&N that Blue mentioned — be back in a while…

          • lindajoyous

            Ok MsPythia!

          • Edwin

            It’s all about Ricki, silly MsP.

          • Edwin

            I was also broadcasting that I learned that even after you are banned you can go into comments you have standing and add to them (edit). I did it. I went back in and added stuff to my comments there. Ricki has probably been spying on me since I dropped my goodbye bomb the other day.

          • Nevin

            If you were commenting to someone would it show up in their notifications?

          • Edwin

            I don’t think so. I went into a comment I had up and then added some more stuff. I figured Ricki was monitoring the thread so she would have seen my changes– I bolded them to get her attention.

          • Nevin

            When I got banned from Raw Story all of my comments were gone.

          • lindajoyous

            I haven’t commented at RawStory since Spiffy, Nancy and were banned from there!

          • Nevin

            What did you say that got you banned from RawStory Linda?

          • lindajoyous

            I’m not banned from Rawstory, just didn’t like the banning of Bernie supporters!

          • Nevin

            OK. I misread your comment.

          • lindajoyous

            Sorry, my writing skills are not the best!

          • Nevin

            My fault

          • lindajoyous

            🙂

          • Edwin

            Yeah, and we at TBR should be very concerned about what Roxanne thinks.

          • Nevin

            Maybe they were hoping for something bigger than their blog.

          • Edwin

            Who knows. Maybe someone is flashing cash at them? Whatever the fuck they’re doing I want no part of it.

  • The_Fixer

    Head is heavy, must sleep. Good night to all, it’s been fun, as usual. I am tickled pink that, one by one, we’re getting folks here and reconnecting.

    • lindajoyous

      Goodnight Fixer!

      • The_Fixer

        G’Night, Linda! Remain joyous and have a good night 🙂

        • lindajoyous

          Thank you, I will do just that, just found out my son is getting married!

  • Edwin
    • Nevin

      I don’t know how Bernie can support her.

      • Edwin

        I don’t know how anyone on the left can support her.

        • Nevin

          kreskin just posted at TBR so apparently he didn’t get The Shadow’s comment to him.

          • Edwin

            Poor guy. Eventually he found us at TBR. We’ll get him here somehow.

            He’s probably wondering WTF is going on. 2 days and still at 130 posts.

          • Nevin

            I’m afraid he will stop posting at TBR and we won’t be able to find him.

          • Edwin

            It must be putting his head through. I was here 5 hours ago and there have only been 9 comments since then. Wonder if he’ll ask what’s going on. (I would,)

          • Nevin

            So far he hasn’t asked, but maybe he saw the conversations happening on the other post.

          • Edwin

            Like I said before, he did some sleuthing and found us at TBR. He’s not just a pretty face.

          • MsPythia

            Did they remove all the comments on the thread where everything melted down?

          • Edwin

            I haven’t looked. It crashed and burned. No need. People will forget about that place very quickly.

            The other blogs we got booted from we had long-term investments with our communities. TBR was fun while it lasted, but now it’s toast. :~>

          • 17

            I saved the entire page, and I NEVER delete anything I’ve saved. Ask Cathy…I’m a “hoarder”.

          • MsPythia

            Damn.

          • Edwin

            13 hours since last post there

            fuck ’em

    • towerofbabel

      Chairman Clinton.

  • MeanValueTheorem

    I gotta say, this election year has really pulled the curtain back for me. There are places I cannot bear to look at anymore. So much nastiness has come to the surface. People say that ’08 was worse, but I don’t recall losing respect for so many people, institutions, websites, comedians, journalists, politicians, etc.

    Maybe the world has changed, maybe I’ve just become a sanctimonious prick. I honestly can’t tell. But being the sanctimonious prick I am, I’ll wager it’s the prior and not the later.

    • Edwin

      This is 800X worse than 2008. I worry you’re two baby steps from the fascist take over.

      • MeanValueTheorem

        This country has lost it’s goddamned mind. The only sane folks in the room are being ignored.
        We’re over due for a disaster in the West. Almost all the people with a clear memory of the lead up to the previous disaster are either dead, senile, of no where near the levers of power/media.

        • Edwin

          Or they’re just out shopping. I really think most people pay very little attention. Unless their lives are impacted in a big way and very directly they don’t follow the news properly. They flip on CNN while they cook dinner and think they’re caught up on shit.

          • Nevin

            Considering the ratings I highly doubt that.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            In 08 no one ever spoke to me in the street about McCain or Obama.
            I cannot count the times random people have tried to talk to me about fucking Trump. People (not the same ones of course) used to talk about Sanders too, but since he through his lot in with Clinton not a peep.

            Now she’s courting fucking Bush supporters like it’s fucking 1992. SMDH

          • MsPythia

            It’s more realistic now that she’s courting them. She’s a Republican, and always has been. So is Obama. All these Third Way Democrats are.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Her courting Republicans comes off a genuine. Unlike the insincere pandering toward the left Sanders all but forced her to do during the primary. THAT appeared as unnatural as a snake riding a triathlon bike in Siberia.

          • Blue Basilisk

            My mailbox used to be stuffed with fliers and other garbage mail from the McCain campaign. Pretty surprising considering we live 6 or 7 miles from a major road

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Blue!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Blue Basilisk

            Hi! 😀 I actually found this place through your profile!

    • MsPythia

      Totally agree. It’s madness. And it’s shocking to me that people who I knew online for many years have turned out to be the kind that actually rejected the most progressive candidate that ran for the Democrats in literally decades, and embraced a corrupt warmongering establishment evil hag instead.

      • MeanValueTheorem

        I feel like I don’t know half the people I thought I knew.

        • MsPythia

          I know — same here. But it’s made me stronger — I’ve even had to deal with this among family. My sister in law is terrified of Trump. I’m more afraid of Hillary Clinton. Way more.

          • MsPythia

            I think it’s because Trump is a stupid and spoiled rich boy clown. Clinton is pure evil. And btw, I’m not sure that Trump didn’t run to help Hillz — and supposedly Bill told Trump to run. These people have been very close friends for years. Bill has partied and played golf all around the world with him for years, Bill and Hill flew all the way down to Florida for his last wedding, their daughters are best friends.
            And now were supposed to believe that the insults they’re trading are real? It’s hard to believe, and it truly feels like political theater.

    • HITO

      pessimism has become part of my daily routine

      • MeanValueTheorem

        indeed

        • HITO

          good to see you again, M. 🙂

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Hey Hito!!! 🙂

          • HITO

            making lemonade out of those horrid lemons which initiated 18 days ago. I dropped out for as long until I picked up your trail from Plum’s comment section.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            I know exactly what you mean. It seems we checked out of Hotel Grumpyface at about the same time. So glad you found this place. I thinks it’s safe, Unka’s a good guy from what I can tell.

            Plum’s an oasis in the desert. 😀

          • HITO

            maybe we will always be wanderers – not necessarily a bad thing – becoming complacent can be a drag after a while.
            see you later, alligator 🙂

  • Edwin

    After getting medical attention, what do the majority of lightning victims do next?
    Hug someone
    Buy a lottery ticket
    Pray

    • Nevin

      If I am going to get hit by lightning I sure as hell hope it gives me some talent, like being able to play the piano.

      • MsPythia

        LOL! 😀 Now I’m picturing a woman playing the piano with a gorgeous wide streak of pure white in her hair!

        • MeanValueTheorem

          And Blue eyes! Electric Blue!

          • MsPythia

            Amazing! It would be so awesome to suddenly find that a lightning bolt uncovered hidden talent!

          • Nevin

            And then they would try to replicate that in a laboratory.

          • MeanValueTheorem

            The fist concerto by Nevin would be a homage to the battle that kills Enkidu in the epic of giglameh. The title: Ishtar and the Bull of Heaven!

          • towerofbabel

            MVT! Great to see you’re here!

          • MeanValueTheorem

            Hey Tower!
            Likewise!

    • HITO
      • Edwin

        Hi, HITO

  • MsPythia

    Well, I’m off — and if I’m the last one here, I’ll be turning out the lights now. Sweet Dreams.

    • Edwin

      Nighty night. It’s only 6 pm for me. (Korea)

      Just about to make dinner– cold Korean buckwheat noodles with veggies

      • MsPythia

        Yummy! 😀 And good morning!

    • lindajoyous

      Goodnight Ms, see you! 🙂

  • Edwin
    • HITO

      Hillz has lost what little was “left” of her mind.
      Hey E, glad I found you(s)…even Rich H. Amazing !

      • Edwin

        We need to round up some others. Kreskin, Smot, Shohanna and some others. We need to make a list and then get to work. We’re banned all over.

        • Edwin

          We need to find Veri and Taleisin

          • Nevin

            Veri post at AN every once in awhile.

          • MsPythia

            I love Veri!

          • Edwin

            I am still not banned there. Just checked. If you see him there let me know.

          • Nevin

            I’m not banned from there either.

          • MsPythia

            YES.

          • 17

            I think Veri is traveling. I’m supposed to email him when he gets back for some pics. I’ll try that today.

          • MsPythia

            Excellent. Good morning to you!

        • HITO

          If you build it they will come and looks like while I was at work all day (only home now) they did. All good, E.

      • RTIII

        Hi HITO! Glad to see you found your way here!

        >>>hugs!<<<

        • HITO

          Hiya, RT – I was horrified by what that mod responded to you over at TBR. So wrong on so many levels. Looking forward to better times ahead of us. 🙂 XOXO

    • notisaidthepig

      God, I love Jimmy.

      • Edwin

        He prolly bats for the wrong team.

  • Edwin

    Aren’t the people at C&L getting fucking sick of Trump stories? Every day that’s all they have. Karoli must be the laziest editor anywhere. She just posts a feed sent to her by Brock every morning.

  • 17

    ..

  • 17

    Smotpoker’s at TBR.

    • Nevin

      I saw that. I know we had the conversation about notifications there. I said I don’t get email notification, but others did. The Shadow got a message to Kreskin, but it might have been deleted before they were able to see it. Shohanna upvoted Kreskin’s comment there within the last 6 hours.

      • MsPythia

        We have to send in emissaries — you know, wait for a moment when they just posted a comment and then wham — give them the link to us!

        • notisaidthepig

          I feel so bad that they might not know what has happened.

          • MsPythia

            Me too. 🙁

        • Nevin

          I think Ricki and Neb are monitoring the hell out of it.

    • MsPythia

      Oh man — we need to contact that guy!

      • 17

        Yes.

        • MsPythia

          I wonder what lies are being told about all of us now…

          • 17

            Right now I’d think none. They need to get a story together that sounds plausible, and that’ll be difficult to do now because they don’t know who knows what. Just as they were able to paint me in a bad light all this time because nobody knew the truth. Now that everything’s out, they can’t cover anything. It’s hard to tell lies when you don’t know if the person you’re talking to knows you’re lying or not. Look how they treated Spiffy the morning after the meltdown, probing her to try to find out just what she knew, all the while trying to spin their story more.

          • MsPythia

            I haven’t looked to see if they’ve cleaned up the thread where the meltdown occurred, but if they scrubbed it, they’re probably telling lies to the friends we haven’t been able to get out of there yet. I’m thinking that at least some of those people don’t even know what’s gone on, so I wonder if they’re making up lies to explain why we’re not there now.

          • notisaidthepig

            They will know something is wrong if they pause for a minute. With none of us posting anything, the strangeness of it will be apparent.

          • 17

            Sure they will. 140 comments over 2 days? They’ll notice.

          • MsPythia

            I’m sure that’s true, but now that we know the truth about what they do, they could be saying all kinds of nasty shit about why we’re not there.

            After reading the entire thread here last night, I actually wondered if they don’t know my stalker — maybe even intimately.

          • notisaidthepig

            How horrible. I’m so sorry MsP. Take care of yourself and tread cautiously. Let me know if I can be of any help.

          • MsPythia

            Well, I tell you what’s interesting is that I hadn’t been bothered by my stalker much for a while (who I often call the Troll of a Thousand Socks since they change their accounts constantly), but as soon as I went to Ricki’s blog It popped up, and then Ricki and Neb were very accommodating about saying they’d make sure I wasn’t bothered by it. Just wondering now if they know more about that than they let on… And it certainly appears from what’s being said that stalking people is definitely part of the MO.

          • notisaidthepig

            Oh, dear. I don’t like where my mind has gone with that. It made me think that maybe they are the ones doing the stalking. This is so damn crazy. (((shudders)))

          • MsPythia

            Yes — but it would be a relief in a way if it was for me personally. I picked up my stalker in Alternet or possibly Raw Story and I know that both of them posted to both. With the shit that other people are saying, I now have to wonder.

          • notisaidthepig

            Stay safe!

          • 17

            And the whole time I was the one being accused of being everyone’s stalker. And I couldn’t defend myself against any of it. Frustrating to say the least.

            They’d have gotten away with their shit for a very long time if Nebdem hadn’t been stupid enough to send that letter to Plum.

          • notisaidthepig

            Thank the gods for stupidity. Oink!

          • 17

            Oink indeed! I wanted to blow TBR up long ago, and could have, but was advised by someone here that I should just sit back and let it happen on its own. “Patience, Grasshopper”, she kept saying. And so I waited. When Plum posted that letter, it was my chance.

          • RTIII

            MOST of us are pretty damned intelligent and will know that there had to be a massive revolt because we ALL can’t have been so terrible as to have required banning.

            But Smot is going through his own personal stress and is distracted. They may string him along for a while but he’ll soon wonder why none of us have come back. And, he’ll know, WE were the ones who were most supportive of him through his rough patch(es).

  • 17

    Arianna Huffington Is Quitting The Huffington Post

    Five years after selling the HuffPo to AOL for $315 million in 2011, Arianna Huffington has had enough of media, and as she announced moments ago, she is stepping down as Editor-in-Chief of the Huffington Post
    which she founded in 2005 to run a new health and wellness venture.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-11/arianna-huffington-quitting-huffington-post

    • RTIII

      The sell-out was 5 years ago, eh?

      I had joined very early on, sometime in 2005, and was one of those who built their organization. I watched it grow and mature. It was there that the full power of internet-enabled social media in the form of comment-sites really started to come of age. And, they had, by far, the best commenting software.

      But it was too good to last, obviously. The new overlords didn’t understand – or perhaps didn’t WANT to understand – the vital interest in anonymity, and by removing it, they destroyed everything. They were a bit like TBR was; stupidly thinking that THEY are the valuable commodity, not realizing that no, it’s the readership and community of commenters that are the real value. …It’s like the eyeballs in television; viewership drives ad rates, not the quality – or lack of it – of the shows aired. In TV, the audience is passive, but in online communities, it’s the participation of the community that is the draw – the “content” is mostly secondary.

  • 17

    Opportunists Using Police Deaths to Further Own Agendas

    It seems pretty clear where the country stands when it comes to the police. They are held in high regard no matter what. Even in the face of video proof of wrongdoing, they are protected. If anything happens to them though, the country jumps. It’s a different standard across the board it seems, but they aren’t exempt from being opportunists.

    http://www.copblock.org/164428/opportunists-using-police-deaths-to-further-own-agendas/

  • 17

    NASA taps six private companies to make habitats that could house astronauts on Mars

    Over the next two years, each of the six selected companies will be awarded varying amounts of funding for their diverse projects, but the combined total cost will be close to $65 million. In their press release

    announcing NextSTEP-2, NASA implied that, if necessary, the project would continue into 2018 and additional funding would then be pumped into it.

    http://qz.com/755428/nasa-mars-habitats-next-space-technologies-for-exploration-partnerships/

  • 17

    What Is the Real Purpose of the US Bombing in Syria?

    In recent weeks the bombing of Syria has been stepped up. Russia’s Aerospace Defense Forces has been wiping out the die-hard militants, carving out four corridors that can be used to evacuate the civilian population, plus one corridor through which the «moderate» opposition can leave together with their
    weapons, but planes from the US-led coalition are conducting airstrikes over homes and civilian infrastructure in areas nominally under the control of the Islamic State.

    http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/08/11/what-real-purpose-us-bombing-syria.html

  • 17

    America IS exceptional – exceptionally arrogant

    Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are strikingly arrogant and narcissistic, even by comparison with other American politicians. Maybe it’s time for us to look in the mirror and forthrightly confront this obvious defect in our national character.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/08/11/us-arrogance/

    • MsPythia

      I’m not at all convinced that Bernie didn’t win the primary. I think it’s possible that the whole thing is being rigged for Shillz because the 1% wants her as the CEO of America Inc.

      • towerofbabel

        Given that there is a lot of evidence that it was rigged, the question should be, is there any evidence that it wasn’t rigged.

        • MsPythia

          Seriously. So in that case, maybe our national character is better than we realize! ;D

          • 17

            Better than we realize? I don’t think so. Everyone knows our elections are rigged….our government is corrupt….and yet we don’t overthrow it. Character? No.

          • MsPythia

            It’s not easy to just overthrow a beast like our government — but I’m proud to be standing on the right side of the barricades with almost everyone I know! 🙂

          • 17

            Agreed. But it’s been done all over the world all through history. It’ll happen here eventually. And we’re gonna get bloody.

          • towerofbabel

            I believe that non-violence is the best approach. Turn the conscience of the larger-public toward your side and you grow in strength. This is why despots always try to demonize their opponents–it removes their rights as moral individuals/movements and turns the public against them.

            That assumes a public conscience is still possible.

          • notisaidthepig

            I agree. Nonviolence is the way to go. They can’t help but be violent against you and when that’s seen the tide begins to turn in your favor.

          • RTIII

            The tide really turns before that – when they decide to go violent, that’s when the tide has already turned; it’s all but inevitable at that point, though few may see it at that time.

          • notisaidthepig

            Excellent point.

          • MsPythia

            Exactly — you have to build for overthrow of existing conditions. And that has to be non-violently. You have to have the people with you first, and any violence that occurs should be brief, but enough to move the worst of worst tyrants out of the way – otherwise everything will stay the same.

          • MsPythia

            I believe in non-violence wherever possible too — but I’m not a pacifist and if some violence is the only thing standing between the emancipation of the people of this nation from the tyranny of the oligarchs under their monster capitalism, it may be necessary. But I’m definitely not down with things like the Reign of Terror in the French Revolution, or Stalin’s Gulags.

          • 17

            Do you believe this country would have gained its independence from England peacefully?

          • towerofbabel

            No.

          • towerofbabel

            In the Paris Commune (1871) the barricades kept shrinking, sort of like what has happened to progressives on the internet. So to maintain community, I think fluidity is the best strategy, after all, thats how the global corporations do it.

      • notisaidthepig

        Hear, hear!

  • 17

    ‘We want cash’: Drug agents seize $209mn in random profiling of 5,200 travelers

    Civil asset forfeiture has been an issue of concerns across the nation as one of the threats to property rights. According to the Institute of Justice’s report “Policing for Profit: The Abuse of Civil Asset Forfeiture”
    police take hundreds of millions of dollars in cash, cars, homes and other property annually. This confiscation does not depend on the owners’ guilt or innocence and no charges or convictions are usually
    required.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/355481-drug-agents-seized-cash/

    • towerofbabel

      Just one more form of dispossession. Neoliberalism is cannibalistic capitalism.

  • notisaidthepig
    • towerofbabel

      That’s gutsy. Looking right down the barrel and saying fuck you.

      • notisaidthepig

        That’s why we like her.

        • MsPythia

          Yes, she’s awesome. I admire her so much!

  • notisaidthepig
    • notisaidthepig

      Just took a look at the tax returns. Just two pages. Fairly simple. She’s not a millionaire!

  • notisaidthepig

    ICYMI:

    Newly Released Emails Highlight Clinton Foundation’s Ties to State Department

    Aide to Bill Clinton asked Mrs. Clinton’s assistants to set up meeting between State, foundation donor
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/newly-released-emails-highlight-clinton-foundations-ties-to-state-department-1470785910

    • RTIII

      Looks like you have to edit your link: you’ve got the characters “donor” before the “http” part – they don’t belong!

      • notisaidthepig

        refresh?

        • RTIII

          Better!

          • notisaidthepig

            Thanks!

    • MsPythia

      She is so corrupt.

      • notisaidthepig

        It’s bottomless….

        • MsPythia

          This is why I’m less afraid of Trump than I am of her. With the Clinton’s it’s all about keeping a tight reign on who works where, and filling every position possible with “their” people.

      • towerofbabel

        Corruption is OK these days.

        • 17

          Legal, even. And encouraged.

          • MsPythia

            Admired. Just shows she “knows how to get things done.”

          • towerofbabel

            “I’ve got this guy. He knows how to get stuff done, see.”

          • MsPythia

            Clinton Cosa Nostra style.

  • notisaidthepig

    Yep.

  • RTIII

    I got an email from the Deputy Campaign Manager for the Stein / Baraka campaign saying that I’m in the running for the position of Director of CA operations. She says that there were a many candidates who applied, many with awesome resumes, and I apparently made the first cut.

    I shouldn’t get either too excited about it because there were so many who applied, nor should I expect them to be very quick at culling through all the apps. After all, it took them since Saturday to get this far! … If I make the second cut, they’ll be calling me for an interview.

    • notisaidthepig

      What amazing news to have made the first cut! Congrats, RT! And continued good luck. Keep us posted. Oink!

    • MsPythia

      RT! That’s fantastic news! <3

    • towerofbabel

      Fantastic!

    • The_Fixer

      Very cool! Great that you are in a position to do this.

      • RTIII

        Yes, some of my friends have laughed that I’d even apply for a 3 month job! … BARELY even 3 months!

        But I’m jazzed about it. If I get the job, I’ll be working my ass off for her! 🙂

  • notisaidthepig

    • MsPythia

      😀

  • notisaidthepig
    • MsPythia

      It is so hilarious the way all of Shillz paid news outlets keep repeating the phrase The Russians, and The Russian Hackers. They don’t even know who hacked in — but the Russian narrative is what Shillz wishes to hear on a constant loop.

    • The_Fixer

      ‘Mornin’, Noti. Wish they would stop calling it a “Russian Hack.” That has not been proven. It takes months of investigation to determine who does these, based on my observation of past hacks. And I do follow the happenings in the industry, and feel comfortable saying that.

      • 17

        ..

      • MsPythia

        Good morning, Daniel. Isn’t it almost impossible to tell who hacked in if they have enough skill? From what I’ve gathered, rerouting things is how they often throw people off their scent, correct? So the Russian narrative could likely be totally false on purpose?

        • The_Fixer

          ‘Mornin’, Ms P. You had a little brain fart there, I’m not Daniel 🙂 I did that the other day, too, so don’t feel bad.

          Oh, there are a million ways to obscure who you are on the Internet. Rerouting, using the Tor network, proxies, spoofing IP addresses and of course, a combination of those methods.

          It’s far easier (but still hard) to figure out who wrote a virus because they can be disassembled and analyzed. They know where certain components of viruses and other malware come from, that makes it easier (but still difficult) to figure out.

          With a hacking that is designed to steal information, it’s a lot harder. They may leave some clues behind, but they can also be red herrings designed to throw off the pursuers. We don’t even know for sure that this guy Guccifer2 is the real person who did that – we’re taking him at his word, essentially.

          So yes, the Russian narrative could be totally false on purpose as you say.

          • 17

            I was wondering where she came up with “Daniel”, becuse just before that I was re-reading an email you sent me, and it definitely wasn’t from “Daniel”. LOL.

          • The_Fixer

            Yup, Raggedy Andy here 🙂

          • 17

            lol

          • The_Fixer

            That was a Halloween costume of mine for a few years, was a freckle-faced kid and with the right accessories, it worked!

          • 17

            The company that was responsible for the security pushed the Russian story because it benefitted them (the company). I have the name around here somewhere (because I’m a data hoarder), but don’t have the time to find it right now.

          • The_Fixer

            Yeah, the bottom line is the prime reason for them to make up any shit they want to.

          • MsPythia

            Clinton is using the Russian angle like crazy in this election.

          • The_Fixer

            She sits alone in her room at night, clenching her fists and murmuring “Must Increase Fear” over and over.

          • MsPythia

            She wants war too. What a sick freak she is.

          • MsPythia

            I’m sorry — Fixer! I haven’t had my tea yet! 😀

          • The_Fixer

            Oh, not a problem. It’s OK that you confused me with Daniel, he’s a good dude 🙂

          • MsPythia

            I’m sorry!

          • The_Fixer

            Oh, hush, you have nothing to be sorry about 🙂

          • MsPythia

            I’m making my tea as we speak. I needz the caffeine!

          • The_Fixer

            Yeah, I need coffee. Even though it’s decaf these days, it still helps!

      • RTIII

        Having worked with computers since the 1970s – mostly in the industry itself – I can back you up; determining exactly who is responsible is far from easy or certain. The only time you really know for damned sure is when you catch them with the goods that they could only have gotten from the source you’re investigating.

        But even then, it’s virtually impossible to prove because its so easy to fake the evidence.

        About the only way to really pin it down is a confession!

      • notisaidthepig

        Hi, Fixer. Yeah, the red baiting is unreal.

  • notisaidthepig

    ….

    • MsPythia

      WORD!

    • Dosido3

      Fantastic.

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        Yes, our pig is fantastic.

  • notisaidthepig

    A Conversation With Green Party Nominee Dr. Jill Stein
    http://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2016/08/10/green-party-nominee-dr-jill-stein

    • notisaidthepig

      Just finished listening to this. So good.

  • 17

    Sent an email to Veri.

    • MsPythia

      Yay! Thanks 17! So glad you have Veri’s address! Maybe Veri will have email for other people who we’re trying to hatch an escape plan for?

  • Nevin

    OculusVeritas just posted a link to this site to Smot.

    • 17

      The link doesn’t show.

      • Nevin

        It is weird. I thought maybe he edited his comment, but now believe it was either Neb or Ricki.

        • MsPythia

          They are such assholes — Smot needs his friends right now, and all they can think about is themselves and their insane horseshit.

          • Nevin

            They can’t afford to piss off Oculus. I have no doubt instead of deleting the comment, which would show as a deletion, they just edited the comment so it shows blank.

          • MsPythia

            Wouldn’t that piss him off anyway though?

          • Nevin

            They can claim they don’t know what happened. All of the commenting Oculus did yesterday and today the only comment was a link to this place.

          • MsPythia

            Maybe Oculus is having second thoughts. I hope so!

          • Nevin

            Well we know Oculus knows about this place. Maybe was lurking last night and saw all the things about Ricki and Neb.

          • MsPythia

            I’m glad he knows.

        • MsPythia

          Did he ask where everyone was?

          • Nevin

            Smot?

          • MsPythia

            Yes.

          • Nevin

            SmotPoker

            3 hours ago

            For the curious: I’m back in Atlanta for three days of training on my
            brother from hospital. Will pick up that traitorous piece of shit car
            of mine in Williamsburg (yes, it’s still there) and drag it home to deal
            with it there.

            On the iPad so I won’t be typing much. Needless to say, I’m about sick of this shit.

            Reply

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            OculusVeritas

            SmotPoker

            16 minutes ago

            Reply

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          • MsPythia

            Hmmm. I’m hoping against hope that Oculus deleted it himself… I wonder how long the link was up?

          • Nevin

            Something is happening. Someone is getting ready to post to Oculus.

          • MsPythia

            Oh boy. I should look so you don’t have to give me the rundown! 😉

          • Nevin

            Checking where the comment went as it didn’t go to Oculus.

          • MsPythia

            Left of Eden upvoted Kreskin — there’s another one we need to rescue!

          • Nevin

            Looks like the link was up for maybe 2 or 3 minutes.

          • MsPythia

            Maybe he didn’t want to risk being booted out for it?

          • Nevin

            I think it was Neb or Ricki.

          • MsPythia

            Yeah — I’m sure they’re hawking everything. Don’t want lose more of their victims!

          • Nevin

            If Oculus stops posting the site will be dead.

          • MsPythia

            It’s interesting how Left of Eden and Shohanna have upvoted, but not posted any comments. I bet they’re wondering what the heck is going on.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Lol so guess everyone is still on this thread? 🙂

          • MsPythia

            Well, it’s a continuing conversation about our escape plans for our friends! Don’t want to bore everyone with it everywhere! 🙂

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            🙂 ah

        • OculusVeritas

          No, I pulled it.

          • MsPythia

            Hi Oculus! I’m happy you’re here! 😀

          • OculusVeritas

            Well, I wasn’t sure I was welcome. 🙂

          • 17

            You are welcome.

          • MsPythia

            Of course you are! We want all of us to stick together! We just don’t need to stay in that Spiders Web!

          • OculusVeritas

            Yeah, it was getting sticky in there alright….the night of the big escape

          • MsPythia

            Yay! I’m so glad you’re here now. I just hope Smot saw your link, or failing that, that he gets email notifications to his comments.

          • OculusVeritas

            I tried to find a link further away from the top….like on another notification, but what a nightmare that is..I think Smot made a pit stop…he’s on his Ipad and still in Atanta…..I’ll keep a look out for any other posts

          • Nancy

            thanks for what you are doing…we really appreciate that.

          • MsPythia

            I wish we knew someone who had his email direct. Maybe we need the help of link-bombing emissaries who can still post there. They’ve banned all of us.

          • Nevin

            Create another name.

          • MsPythia

            Probably blocked us by server (like Raw, Alternet, and C&L did to us) — they know we’d want to reach out to others.

          • Nevin

            Use tor network. It mask your IP address.

          • MsPythia

            I don’t use tor — I know about it though. Do you use that?

          • Nevin

            When I want to go where they don’t want me.

          • MsPythia

            Well now is a good time to be a blue-eyed spy! 😉

          • Nevin

            I don’t know anyone at RS to give this site to.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            IMPO’ed 🙂 duckie. my duckie.

          • Nevin

            OK. I’ll have to look for them. If I tell them Spiffy wants to see them will they know it is you or do I have to use Queen Spiffy?

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Hmm Spiffy should do it.

          • Nevin

            OK. Are their certain stories I am more likely to find them?

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            hmm i don’t think. whatever is most active.

          • Nevin

            Gave them the link. As a side note, I posted at TBR yesterday as The Shadow. Of course I was banned. I went to post at RS as The Shadow and I was banned. I had another username I used. This tells me Neb and Ricki are giving info to Roxanne.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            O.O We were wondering about the shadow.

          • Nevin

            Ricki and Neb are too stupid for their own good. They are in cahoots with Roxanne.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            I find it amusing that Roxy and Karoli were so threatened by a blog with like 20 regular people.

          • Nevin

            Really insecure people. I don’t know what Neb and Ricki think they are going gain from this. Their reputations are trashed now and there is no way to recover.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Just goes to show what power control freaks they are at CrooksandLiars and RS. Apparently we were a big threat to them.

          • MsPythia

            Narcissistic and authoritarian. It makes them furious when people unmask them.

          • Nevin

            I got a reply. They said thank you. So they have the link to this site.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yay 🙂

          • MsPythia

            Did you see how Markus Garvey posted a sarcastic comment yesterday in TBR after we all left? He’s a mod on RS and Alternet and a minion of Roxanne’s — that did seem to show that they’ve been following what happened there very closely.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            I kept telling you guys, they were watching us :))

          • MsPythia

            Maybe not just watching us — putting us in a fishbowl for their own amusement? If Ricki and Neb are in contact with Roxanne, that might mean she set her blog up to fuck with all of us from the start.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Well I hope they were very entertained.

            As I”m sure they are watching this right now.

            Hey, Roxy Hillary is still a bitch. I’m still not voting for her. Good job making RS into a shadow of what it once was. Real women don’t cower at the mention of a “bad word.” They own it. Yes, I am a bitch and I”m proud of it.

            http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/93/938872868f6ca98a0a0c016f4a4314323c10a7ee4d8792c94ece4139a9c40935.jpg

          • MsPythia

            Rox is a bitch and so are all her minions too. I hope her blog disappears once the Shillbots stop getting paid.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Right after the election, I expect they’ll lose 80% of their commenters. Just saying.

          • MsPythia

            Brock has a lot of money to work with, so maybe she thinks it was worth it.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            maybe.

          • Nevin

            That was the one where they self deleted?

          • MsPythia

            Yes. But not before Nancy called him an asshole! 🙂

          • Nevin

            I saw it. It was something to the affect of I heard you don’t like being moderated.

          • MsPythia

            Yeah — he’s always been a huge dick.

          • Nevin

            I hardly recognized anyone that post at RS now. Did they get rid of everyone?

          • MsPythia

            They purged all the Bernie supporters practically at this point. The only longtime regulars that still post there are Hillary supporters.

          • Nevin

            All I know is I saw a lot of new faces. I don’t know who there were for since I didn’t read the comments.

          • smkngman3

            “so I herd you liek teh moderating???”

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            hey smokey

          • smkngman3

            I saved that by using the snipping tool but have no idea how to post that image.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            hmm

          • smkngman3

            When I saw that post I added a screen grab program to FireFox but the program required a restart of FF and I knew any refresh would make it disappear.

          • Nancy

            he’s also following one of the posters-as well as two other mods from RS…very interesting. my spider senses are a tingling!
            not going to mention names.

          • smkngman3

            When I checked his disqus, he had very few comments listed. All mod related and this one removed.

          • Nancy

            yup…I called him an asshole and then his post was edited out by him, is my post still up?

          • smkngman3

            Idk. I believe your post was deleted after but haven’t bothered to check.

          • Nancy

            lol, I will check, thanks!

          • Nancy

            still there.
            up voted by Markus.

          • 17

            They had no trouble getting me yanked from Raw, Alternet, and Alan.com.

          • Nevin

            I think they are worse than we can imagine.

          • MsPythia

            I’m banned from Raw, Alternet and C&L now. And maybe others that I don’t even know about but who they are friends with. I never had any idea that these people could be so sick and petty and obsessed with silencing voices they don’t like.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            I don’t get what they think they are accomplishing by banning people with different political views. It’s not like they just silenced them out of existence. I guess they want to give the impression HIllary has more support than she does.

          • MsPythia

            Definitely. And let’s face it, that probably works on a lot of people who go to the “progressive” blogs and all they see are people devoted to Shillary. Those who don’t know any better would believe that there wasn’t widespread support for Bernie, when the truth is, the site owner silenced all those people. And, maybe she was PAID to do so by Hillary’s campaign.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            She actually had to buy support online lol.

          • MsPythia

            She’s spent many millions of dollars on it too. The other day someone posted a link on Twitter showing that it’s now well over 6 million she’s spent paying online trolls to defend her. It’s so pathetic, and it shows that this woman has no business being in charge of this country.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Apparently six million buys a lot of trolsl because they are everywhere. That or they are just posting under a lot of accounts.

          • MsPythia

            They probably make more the more they post, so I’ll bet a lot of them treat it like a full time job.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yup

          • MsPythia

            Yeah — and that makes them fucking monsters.

          • Nevin

            I just wonder what they will use against people.

          • MsPythia

            I don’t know what their deal is. It’s really sad though — all we wanted to do was discuss politics, and they decided to make that into sick and twisted games and silencing people.

          • Nevin

            Oculus link to here has been deleted. Oculus has probably been banned too.

          • MsPythia

            LOL!

          • lindajoyous

            Hi Spiffy, don’t forget Emmalib! 🙂

          • MsPythia

            Hi Blue, you rang?

          • Nevin

            Nancy says to go into chat room.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            lol I am seeing a new side of Nevin lately.

          • MsPythia

            She’s a badass blue-eyed bull!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yup

          • Nancy

            the threads have been locked from commenting as we all know that is the best way to recruit someone or let them know where we are. it’s what we did to get people to TBR in the first place. that was shut down immediately yesterday.

          • Nancy

            it will be interesting to see if you will be allowed to still post there. anyone that came here was banned.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            I think it’s down to Stephanie, Sho, and Taleisin for regulars who haven’t made it. but i feel like I’m missing someone..

          • Nevin

            Don’t forget Smot.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Well message was given to him 🙂

          • 17

            I got message to Sho.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yay 🙂

          • MsPythia

            Left of Eden and Smot.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yup

          • Nancy

            it’s a very different scene here-looks like everyone is welcome. Unka has been very welcoming to us…

          • 17

            Do you fully understand what happened and why?

          • OculusVeritas

            More or less…..I’m not in her for blood revenge

          • Nancy

            here for crown fittings? lol…

          • 17

            We are not here for blood either. But my wife would like at least a pound of flesh.

          • OculusVeritas

            lol

          • MsPythia

            You might want to take some time to read this whole thread. It appears that they’re old hands at trying to control people and stalk them. It’s not right Oc — in fact it’s sick. I wish them no ill will, but what they were doing there, and elsewhere is not healthy.

          • OculusVeritas

            I pretty much have it nailed. But we are here now…let’s move forward.

          • MsPythia

            Yes — agreed. But we need the others to know that they have the option of coming over here and joining us if they want to.

          • Nevin

            Hi. It was weird that it shows a blank post.

          • OculusVeritas

            I was just checking to see if someone here was checking …:)

          • Nevin

            Busted

          • OculusVeritas

            he he he

          • Nancy

            lol, we are trying to see who is still there and how we can get a link to them.

          • OculusVeritas

            I’ll change that

          • Nancy

            did you just remove it again Oc? there is no evidence that you even made a comment.

          • Nancy

            miss you.

          • OculusVeritas

            Thanks…..I’ve been lurking….followed spiffy’s trail…hehe

          • Nancy

            good…this seems to be working for us here…happy to see you.

          • MsPythia

            Yay Spiffy!!!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            😉

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            <3 of course.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            ^ Follow the spiffy brick road. follow the spiffy brick road.

          • MsPythia

            You mean *tail* don’t you? She is a cat after all!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Oculus! You are safe! You made it!

          • OculusVeritas

            Hi Spiff……like your new av

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            thanks 🙂

          • The_Fixer

            Hiya! Glad to see you here!

      • OculusVeritas

        I just reposted it…

        • Nevin

          It’s been deleted and you have probably been banned.

      • Nancy

        I am amazed that it’s still up after this amount of time. odd that they wouldn’t have pulled it-guess they aren’t watching all the time though.

        • 17

          Guess those “roving” Moderators are sleeping. Or maybe the Ruling Duo finally realized there’s nothing left to defend. Just dead air.

          • Nancy

            hmmm…oh well.

          • MsPythia

            The Ruling Duo! Nancy you crack me up!

          • 17

            Thank you, and don’t call me Shirley.

          • Nancy

            that was 17 but thanks…

          • Nancy

            flip?

    • RTIII

      YAY!

  • Morning Open Thread is no up, for your commenting pleasure!

    • MsPythia

      Good Morning Unka! Thanks! 😀

      • Nancy

        hey Ms! it’s just damn lovely!

        • MsPythia

          I love this place! Good morning Nancy! <3

          • Nancy

            so light and airy and expansive…

          • MsPythia

            Hahaha — yes!

          • Nancy

            funny how these feelings are so important…

          • Nancy

            need to add “inclusive” to that list…

    • The_Fixer

      Hey, Unka! I like the color scheme for links, it makes them very distinctive and easy to spot. One problem at TBR is that if you turned text into link, it was difficult to see. It’s clear you put some effort and thought into this, good work!

      • MsPythia

        Agree — this place looks good!

    • OculusVeritas

      Thanks for letting me on the site…..Really looks good. RTIII should be very happy creating diaries and such…..

  • Dosido3

    I pride myself on knowing more music trivia than my friends. This question kept me up all night because it’s like asking me if I know any good restaurants. I do, but when asked I lock up so here you go.
    https://youtu.be/TZ4eUOnG-Us

    • The_Fixer

      Hey, Dosido! Yeah, that was probably one of the better novelty songs, it was catchy and well-constructed. Of course, it had Wolfman Jack, the voice of XERF.

      Have fond memories of listening to The Wolfman fade in and out on AM radio when I was a kid. He was truly legendary.

      • Dosido3

        I love novelty songs! One of my favorite childhood memories is a song about the jolly green giant. 🙂

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