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Aug 18, 2016
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Here’s some links for your Thursday reading pleasure, and an open thread in which to talk about them!

There’s no point in Bracing Ourselves for the Climate Tipping Point, as the majority of climate scientists agree, we’ve already passed it. If we’re going to be realistic, we need to concentrate on not making worse, and how we’re going to survive as a species, and what species we need to survive, so we can!

Hillary Clinton betrays women, again.  Now that fresh allegations of rape against her husband have surfaced, not to mention the continuing child abuse rumors, Hillary Clinton has scrubbed the section of her website where she declared to rape victims, “You have the right to be believed, and we’re with you.”
Now that Aetna has decided it doesn’t want to take Barack Obama’s corporate welfare program, Bernie Sanders has decided to illustrate apocryphal Einstein meme about doing the same thing over and over again, and again revealing his credulousness towards right-wingers, by making another big push for a classically Neoliberal policy.

For those who have been noticing a lack of access to Russia’s English-language service “RT.com,” it’s not your ISP that causing it, RT has been under attack by a “well-planned series of Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attacks one week after the Atlantic Council wrote an article suggesting preemptive cyber terrorism against RT and the Moscow Metro.” Who’s launching these attacks is left as a problem for the student, but if this kind of policy keep up, or even ramps up under a Clinton administration, you may find this map useful.

In “There’s Hope yet” news, Iceland’s Pirate Party starting to look like it will become the new ruling party in Iceland. Founded in 2013 by a group of hackers and protesters against the copyright laws, the party remains strictly anti-EU and promotes freedom of expression and free access to information, among it’s many other legislative goals.

Researchers have published a paper on a new opioid painkiller, that obviates the risk of respiratory failure that is the most common cause of Overdoses with morphine. This could reduce Overdoses, in clinical settings, by as many as 30,000 deaths annually. The compound was discovered using new computational methods that selected it from an initial pool of over 3 million candidates.

Feel free to contribute any links you think we’ll find interesting,  funny, etc.

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  • Left of Eden

    First!

    • Nice:^) Morning Left.

      • Left of Eden

        Good morning, Stephanie!

  • Good morning

    • I love democracy Now, thanks for posting.

  • RTIII

    …Somebody forgot to post that the new page was up on the former new page! :-))

    • Well, this was a scheduled post. I’m going to try to start being consistent, at least for the morning open-thread posts, in having them automagically appear at 7am PST.

      • RTIII

        Oh, OK, good to know! 🙂

        • Really it’s just a blatant ploy to let me be a lazy bum and sleep late, if I want. LOL.

    • Morning RTIII

      • RTIII

        Morning Stephanie.

  • The_Fixer

    Good morning, fine folks. Here’s something that I had not heard about. It seems that Wal*Mart has an extensive crime problem. Of course, it’s a result of pushing for more store profit, and like their shitty pay and “benefits” their employees deal with, the cost is pushed onto the taxpaying public:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-walmart-crime/

    • Seems to me that low morals in running a company leads to low morals when people are dealing with them….

      • The_Fixer

        Yes, I’d agree with that. I am sure that nearly every shoplifter says, as their stealing stuff, “Hell, Wal*Mart has a ton of money, they won’t miss this.”

        What makes me shake my head is the idiocy of the (poorly chosen – no retail experience) board of directors. They fail to see this as a problem that can be solved by spending a little money in the right places. They are so damn focused on increasing profits by being penny-wise and dollar-foolish that they can’t see that spending a little bit will actually wind up making them more money.

        • And, I can actually, personally confirm the psychology of it: I have no problems downloading a movie made by a big corporation, but ALWAYS pay for an indie film, made downloadable by the makers, for a reasonable fee.

    • Morning Fixer.

      • The_Fixer

        Good Morning, Stephanie. How is your day so far?

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          *pounces the fixer, stephanie, rt, unka, and anyone else that might be heres.*

          • The_Fixer

            Good Morning, My Queen! Hope you’re doing better today.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            <3 let's just say glad i have you guys.

          • The_Fixer

            Ah, we’re glad to have such a judicious moderator with a wicked sense of humor. Remember, time wounds all heals. Wait, I got that wrong. Time heals all wounds. Not really, it just takes the sting out of them.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            <3 lol.

          • The_Fixer

            Love to see ya smile, My Queen 🙂

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            ok

          • The_Fixer

            My, what big teeth you have, My Queen!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yup yup. have to protect the kingdom somehow.

          • The_Fixer

            That’s why you’re the Valiant Queen!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            😉

          • :^)

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            🙂

        • Doing yard work, which I am enjoying very much:^) I have rhubarb, but it looks sad. Wrong season for healthy rhubarb.

          • The_Fixer

            Yard work is a great way to keep limber. When I was a kid, we had semi-wild rhubarb in our long-neglected garden. Once in a while, my mom would make pie from it. Very tasty!

  • RTIII
    • And, because I actually listen to experts*, this is why I plan to move to E. WA. as close to the Canadian border as I can get.

      * I listen to experts because I’ve seen what people not listening to actual experts in politics, but rather to politicians, has gotten us.

      • RTIII

        Smart man!

        • Well, and I should: in the computer field as well. Politics and Computers: The only two areas of knowledge I have any even remote legitimacy in which to claim expertise. LOL.

          • RTIII

            Ah, computers. Fell in love with them at, um, 13, I think… Got my first job in computer-science at 14! (I was a quick study!)

            Back then, it was possible to be an expert who knew an entire field. Today, there’s WAY too much for anyone to know in EVERY sub-discipline of computer science!

            Just curious what your specialization might be in?

          • Same here, pretty much. Learned to write code (on a TRS80) in 1982, and was free-lancing for local businesses and writing games (what we’d call shareware, now) by 84. I didn’t really step up until I found the Internet, in 1990.

            For a long time, I was the guy at the bleeding edge of the Internet. Got my name on a few important(ish) RFCs, etc. Mostly web-tech these days. Master of tech like WebSockets, etc.

            Sadly, though, most of what I do, these days, is put together WordPress or IIS sites for people. On the plus side, that’s an easy living which allows me to make enough money to pay my bills and otherwise have fuck-tons of time to dick around with my other passions, like reading and learning (MOOCs mostly)

    • The_Fixer

      The commenter immediately following you certainly presents a clear and convincing argument, didn’t he? And Good Morning, RT.

  • Here’s some additional information on Aetna. It truly sucks but they are attempting to do.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TguNDDChZcY

    http://www.alternet.org/economy/aetna-opts-out-affordable-care-act

    • See the links in the main post above, for my take. 🙁

      • Actually I posted the wrong video. This is the one that I had meant to post.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53QOdrDnsgU

        • Left of Eden

          Fucking blackmail. In a sane country, Aetna’s assets would be seized, broken up, and the Ceo’s frog marched to jail.

          • The_Fixer

            I don’t think that Aetna would be allowed to exist in the EU.

          • Shohanna

            They shouldn’t be allowed to exist HERE. Grrrr

        • Left of Eden

          What I dislike is the presumption in the much of the “progressive” media that the Democratic party is bargaining in good faith, and truly want to give Americans a fair deal. As if they didn’t know, that is, that taking a certain course of action was detrimental to common good. Here, Cenk implies that Democrats simply were unaware that scuttling the public option would inevitably result in our current circumstances.

          I expect politicians to be disingenuous about their motives – they have become little more than paid figureheads for the forces controlling our domestic and foreign policy. But the media should and must be held to a higher standard. Enough pretending that the Democrats are acting in good faith and are simply misinformed about the true state of things, because nothing is further from the truth.

          • The_Fixer

            The press was all to happy to push the narrative, at the suggestion of prominent Democrats, of course, that they were “fighting the good fight” and because of those pesky Republicans, sigh, they just couldn’t get it done. In reality, they were all being influenced by insurance companies, of course, and fought about as effectively as a kid in a tickle fight.

          • Shohanna

            Right? it makes me so angry, they think we don’t see this bullshit and won’t stop them. When enough people see through it, it WILL come crashing down. Fuck these assholes.

          • RTIII

            The media and politicians have the same puppetmasters.

          • Shohanna

            Exactly, they planned it out, this is all going according to plan!! It’s evil, it’s as evil as the repukes and their inanity and stupidity.

        • See, I disagree with that framing. Their assumptions are that the ACA is anything more than a corporate welfare scheme. It’s not, and all Aetna wants is more welfare money, and they’ll throw this fit, to get it it.

          What Aetna s doing is not a Bug, in the ACA, it’s a feature.

          • I agree with your conclusion.

            The thing that made this video interesting to me was that it perfectly highlighted how Aetna given the parameters of the ACA is allowed to bully & indeed endanger the ACA.

            Ultimately I agree that the solution to that unbalanced power structure would be a single-payer over a public option.

      • Not ignoring reading your links, this one in particular.
        http://pnhp.org/blog/2009/07/20/bait-and-switch-how-the-“public-option”-was-sold/

  • SpiffyTheValiant

    Hey, guys.

    • RTIII

      Hey Spiffy! 🙂

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        hai 🙂

    • Mernun Sperff!

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        hiya

    • Morning Spiffy.

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        <3

        • <3 how's your day going?

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            i’ll tell you once my brain boots up :))

          • Coffee is the recommended cure:^)

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            lol not a coffee person. but i have my caffeine fix at the ready.

    • Shohanna

      My cats would do that if I left the door open. IF I take them out and put the clothes in a basket I have to fold them ASAP or they will be in the basket and all over the clothes. There isn’t a day that goes by that I don’t have cat hair somewhere. ;/ LOL

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        lol yup

  • SpiffyTheValiant

    Spiffy would love to be an author someday. So it really bothers me to see filth like this get published.

    http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/despite-calling-clinton-out-for-her-finances-bernie-sanders-works-system-to-avoid-disclosing-his/

    • SmotPoker

      Spiffy want to do some “gonzo” journalism with SmotPoker on a cross country ride interviewing different walks of life, and the troubles we encounter. Of course troubles will be encountered, that’s what I’m there for….

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        <3 such a nice smotty. Are our campaign signs ready?

      • 17

        Do it! I’ll hold your weed for ya til ya get back 😉

        • SmotPoker

          I’m crazy, not stupid….

          • 17

            Just like dear old mom 🙂

          • SmotPoker

            I’d trust Shohanna with it, she’s allergic. Can’t trust my dad either, it’ll be gone by the time I get back.

          • 17

            Yeah…Leave it with my good buddy Sho. Yeah…that’s the ticket!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            She’s allergic to weed?! Damn there is just no end to that poor woman’s suffering.

          • SmotPoker

            Yep, that’s why we could never be lovers, it would kill her…..

            Kind of like Superman, and Lois Lane, but not….

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Well what a way to go, I suppose :))

          • SmotPoker

            You bet. I’m a generous, and caring lover. Only complaint I’ve ever had was that I made her sore afterwords….I took that as a badge of honor though moreso than a complaint…. : )

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            lmao.

        • Now, now, that’s a big responsibility. One we can share. 😉

          • 17

            We can talk over a pizza.

          • SmotPoker

            I should just send the keys to my grow room to you today huh? By the way, my lovely ladies are really coming into their own lately. Lovely buds, stinky, and sticky just the way I like it.

          • Don’t tease. All my local contacts have moved away, and I’ve been dry for like a year.

            [sad Willbur Face]
            [can’t wait to move to WA]

          • SmotPoker

            That’s a bummer. I grow my own, but also have tons of contacts in the industry. I suspect soon we’ll even have recreational legal here in MI.

            That’s far beyond a bummer in fact. That’s inhumane.

          • 17

            Let’s not gloss over that passing of the keys idea.

          • Well, there’s the threat of legalizing it here in AZ, the proposal even has the approval of TPTB (because they’ll profit) but it’s still a bit hinky and even if it passes this Nov, it’d certainly be a couple years before one could walk in off the street and buy some.

            I have not a brown thumb, but a gangrenous-black thumb, when it comes to plants, I have never been successful with a grow-op of any size.

          • 17

            But we could hire the best people to work it for us.

          • SmotPoker

            You should get some references from DJT, I’m sure he knows the best of the best….

          • SmotPoker

            I was intimidated at first, but I’ve found it remarkably easy to grow a weed. I use Advanced Hydroponics for my nutrients, and simply follow the instructions using RO water, shitty T-5 lights, some chives to keep the spider mites away, CO2 in a can for bud growth.

            I’ve got a friend that does his outdoor grow by just using whatever falls from the sky for watering. Doesn’t add a fucking thing, and gets a great harvest each time. In fact, I’ll probably end up helping him trim again this year, and picking up a half pound for my troubles.

          • RTIII

            Recreational pot is on the ballot here in CA for November.

            That should ensure good turnout on the Progressive side no matter who is on the ballot for POTUS.

      • RTIII

        No offense intended, of course, but I wouldn’t take a road-trip with you on a dare, a bet, or for love OR money! NFW! :)) Road-trip troubles follow you like the proverbial plague!

        As for me, I’m a happy, very successful road-tripper! I go coast-to coast on average at least once a year, and many thousands of miles in addition to that, and in a decade I haven’t had as much trouble as you on only your most recent trip! 🙂

        Now, it’s true, I drive an Adventure Wagon, and DO have adventures, just a heck of a lot less troublesome adventures! 😉

        • SmotPoker

          No offense taken RTIII, I totally agree. I’m a fucking trouble magnet. We’ve petitioned TPTB to rename Murphy’s Law into SmotPoker’s Law since Murphy ain’t got shit on me.

          • Shohanna

            I would be glad to take that trip. /nod I haven’t been on a road trip since 2013, when I took 4 horny teens to the Grand Canyon. (DO NOT TAKE HORNY TEENS TO THE GC) 6 days in a damned car with these teens will drive you up a wall. O.O We went to NV. Then we hit CA for a hit at the Hollywood sign and then down the main thorough faire it was fun but not as fun as it could have been. Cost me 6 fucking grand. Never again. Omfg never again.

            I should have done it alone. I wouldn’t have spent so much money, and I wouldn’t have been so pissed on the way back. It should NOT HAVE COST 6 grand!! Seriously I have no fucking clue where all that money went. :/

          • SmotPoker

            I can hear the rumor mill now…

            “Sho, and Smot driving in a car k-i-s-s-i-n-g….”

          • Shohanna

            Haha “First comes love, then comes marriage” then comes “Baby pot in a baby carriage”.

            Yeah, cause I am sterilized and no more babies for me. /nod Then again, your OBGYN says she believes you will have twins, triplets or quads next, you would do the same. 😀

    • SmotPoker

      Oh, and yes, that was complete filth. I don’t know which was worse, the article or the idiot comments that accompany it. I need a shower after reading that drivel.

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        I know. Sheesh it was horrible.

  • ….

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      Ouch.

      x.x might have been too soon.

      That poor boy.

      I can’t believe they took the picture with him like that. You would think they could have at least wiped the blood off his face.

      • RTIII

        Maybe that was part of the point?

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          maybe

      • We can’t soft-sell war, or try to hide its horrors.

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          :/ Just saying it had to be horribly uncomfortable for him.

          • I’m sure they did what they could, as rapidly as possible.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            I hope so.

          • SmotPoker

            I’m sure they did some triage on him, made sure nothing was life threatening, placed him inside the ambulance, and went to care for those in some serious condition needing immediate help.

        • kreskin

          Uncle Sam and his enablers in MSM can and do.

      • cathyx

        I wonder if his parents are dead too.

    • MsPythia

      So horrible. 🙁

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        *pounces the ms and holds tightly.*

        • MsPythia

          I left you a comment in the Jill Stein Town Hall thread from last night. I went to Mediaite to see what you all were talking about — left a comment for Neb. So, after all this time we learn that that pos TBR78 and/or Marissa is a crazy woman we all know? Sheesh.

          • cathyx

            If you want, you can come to sparkleberry’s den to talk about it.

          • MsPythia

            Okay. See you in 5.

          • SmotPoker

            I missed all the commotion as I was on the road getting my ass handed to me every time I turned around, and have no idea where this Sparkleberry’s Den you talk of might be.

          • cathyx

            It’s nothing. If you read plum chili site, you got pretty much everything.

          • SmotPoker

            Yeah, I was directed to it, and did read it, as well as having a talk with 17 in Chatzy. What a shit show that must have been, one of Trumpian proportions.

          • cathyx

            And it still is. Mediaite was fun last night.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Oh I’m sorry. Didn’t see it. I had closed off the thread and usually don’t check my notifications :/. Yeah, sounds like it.

      • Yeah, it truly is:(

    • kreskin

      Obama is a criminal , no different from Cheney , Rumsfeld and Bush in that respect . Clinton will be worse .

  • Shohanna

    Good morning! Yes I know it’s afternoon. Deal with it. lol

    I had a terrible bout of insomnia last night and could not fall asleep until near 5am!! **sigh** THIS is why having a job would be detrimental. Since my fall, I haven’t been able to stay up around the clock to fix these bouts of insomnia. My heart feels like it’s going to fall through my body if I am up too long. Like someone has their hand on the bottom and is attempting to pull it through my body, it down right feels WEIRD.

    And yes, I have described this to all my doctors. They don’t believe me. None of them do. My blood work says I shouldn’t have high BP. Or have any of the symptoms I live with. You can see the smirks. I want to smack them silly every time I see one.

    Will be on and off today, I have things to do! <3

    • The_Fixer

      Have as good of a day as you can have, Sho. Take care. I am out, too.

    • SmotPoker

      FYI, you were a topic of conversation a little bit ago. Seems that people were unaware of your allergy to cannabis. Damn shame too, since that would help with keeping the BP low.

      • Shohanna

        Yeah, I have heard that so many times. I had 4 run ins with weed. (Do NOT know if it was laced with “other” or not.) What I do know is all 4 times I had seizures and the last one I had to be rushed to the hospital as I stopped breathing. Yes, they were laced. The doctors said pot should not have done what it did. But I have not touched it since and I am scared outta my wits to try it. LOL

        • SmotPoker

          Next time I’m down your way I’ll have to stop in, and see if I can help with something guaranteed not to be laced. Nobody should be afraid of cannabis, and you have my pity. I have no doubt that it’s kept me from behind bars despite the illegality of it. I’d have strangled some stupid bastards long ago without it.

          • Shohanna

            It’s a phobia now. My daughter has been trying to get me to smoke it for quite some time now and the panic attack really doesn’t help. Is there a blood test we can do? I do have an Epi-pen now but I seriously don’t want to use it. It is up to 600.00 to replace it.

            Can we do an allergy test with it? Like you scratch my back and smush it in? LOL Yes, I am scared silly if you can’t guess.

          • SmotPoker

            The skin test may work. If it leaves a rash then you may be allergic. I’m not a doctor, I’ve only played on TV, and with my neighbor girl when I was a kid though….

          • Shohanna

            Haha Well I have seen it done, and I have had it done. And it’s just like you said. If there is swelling, redness and / or a reaction that’s what they say you are allergic. It’s not exactly hard to figure it out. The tech who did mine says it’s the best they have without having to feed it to you. 😀

          • SmotPoker

            Ain’t interested in no younguns myself either. I’ve procreated once, that’s enough. Still like to practice my “technique” though….

          • Shohanna

            Oh yes, I like practicing very much.. Haven’t had a chance to do so for quite some time now. /sad panda Haven’t had someone I … am interested in to do so! LOL

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      *hugs*

    • Hey Sho, hope you feel better soon:(

      • Shohanna

        I will, once I get my schedule fixed again. LOL

  • SmotPoker

    Anyone else catch this racist piece of shit on RS? What a waste of air. She should be charged with felony oxygen theft.

    “You should have stayed in Africa!”

    Bitch, are you serious? It ain’t like these poor folks came here on a cruise ship, and decided to overstay their visas. Their ancestors were kidnapped, and sold into forced labor for generation upon generation, then held down by systemic racism within our government.

    I hate these ignorant fucks because there is no excuse for their stupidity in this day, and age with so many educational opportunities available. What a waste of a life.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/watch-florida-mom-launches-vile-racist-rant-at-black-neighbors-you-should-have-stayed-in-africa/

    • Shohanna

      Those comments!! LOL Fucking hilarious. I almost was tempted to smack someone upside the head. I decided against it. As it was too easy.

      That woman was disgusting and oh so ignorant. **smdh**

  • kreskin

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/18/us-promoting-war-crimes-yemen-saudi-bombing-obama

    ” the US military can’t even articulate why our government is helping at all. As Micah Zenko pointed out last year, Gen Lloyd Austin, commander of US Central Command, admitted in March 2015: “I don’t currently know the specific goals and objectives of the Saudi campaign, and I would have to know that to be able to assess the likelihood of success.” Yet that hasn’t stopped the military from helping the Saudis kill thousands of civilians since. ”

    Weapons sales , big money , priority # 1 . That’s how far gone this country is .

    • towerofbabel

      There must be oil or gas in large quantities too.

  • kreskin

    Now we know why we’ve problems getting through to RT news web site. No surprise , is it ?

    • RTIII

      Word on the street is – and this from a … um… Truth Dig story, I think … is that they’re suffering Denial Of Service attacks. From who is unknown at this time, but you can well guess.

      • LOL: Top of the Thread. From, most likely the US.

    • Edwin

      It’s not an election it’s a coup, dressed up with sort-of democracy.

      • The coup happened some time ago. This is just the shaky period during the transfer/taking of power by a new regime. 🙁

        • dayanmao

          It was less obvious when Bush was appointed.

          • Shohanna

            People still saw it for what it was, it was just more corroded now the rust is off and it’s shiny and everyone is BLINDED by the “operation”. lol

    • towerofbabel

      If the Managers feel threatened we can expect more of this.

  • EdgarHF

    Just doing a quick driveby during lunch time. Late news, but I see fracking king Ken Salazar was put in charge of HRC’s transition team. That’s big news. Somehow I cannot find an article about this on C&L. I’m sure they informed their readers, right?

    • Hey Edgar:^) hope you have a great day.

    • towerofbabel

      They are busy trying to decide if fracking is just Progressive or if it’s Super Progressive.

  • SpiffyTheValiant

    Just so everyone knows, we probably have several lurkers here. You know the kind that are too afraid to post, when they know the mods won’t protect them by banning anyone that doesn’t agree with them?

    • Hey Spiffy, where is Smokey & Nancy?

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        Haven’t seen Smoky or Nancy today.

        • 17

          Camping?

        • K, was just wondering.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            np

      • cathyx

        I think nancy said she was going to the country.

    • dayanmao

      There was one the other day posting the LTE bullshit but wouldn’t list Any reasons to support Hillary.

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        LTE?

        • dayanmao

          Lesser of Two Evils. I couldn’t believe I was encountering that here.

  • SmotPoker

    There is a naked Donald Trump in Times Square right now.

    https://twitter.com/NYC_Patch/status/766322125162614784

    And another version:

    Everyone wants a photo opp with the naked trump in Union square pic.twitter.com/Oz74G4ry4W— New York City Patch (@NYC_Patch) August 18, 2016

    • Why did I up-vote that, ick.

      • SmotPoker

        Personally, I think it’s an epic piece of trolling by whomever did it. Little Donnie will not be pleased.

        • Oh in that regard, it’s perfect it will insult him to his very soul.

          But damn the poor eye of the beholder.

        • Shohanna

          I really can’t wait til he has a response to it. You know he will. LOL

    • Shohanna

      EEEWWW OMG!! My brain will never be the same/!?!?! AHHHH **RUNS AWAY**

      • :^)

        • Shohanna

          It’s like a car crash, you.. can’t… look… away!…. GAH No balls, reminds me of my ex husband, omg I am having a PTSD attack.. EEK!

          • *hugs* sho:^)

          • Shohanna

            It’s almost like the artist has seen him naked!! O.O I think Trump is going to have a fucking cow over this. LOL I can’t wait!!

          • SmotPoker

            Melania (edited) ran to it before discovering it wasn’t the real Donnie.

          • Shohanna

            Aww, you say that and I am reminded that my dad has melanoma. He has had to have numerous surgeries to remove cancerous moles. 🙁

          • SmotPoker

            Awww dammit. I really should think of that before I post those things. I lost my own mother to cancer, it’s nothing to joke about even if having her as FLOTUS would be a cancer upon our nation.

          • Shohanna

            It’s alright. I didn’t understand at first when my dad told me. Now, I realize he has cancer and is fighting it every mole that’s removed. It scares me sometimes. But Dad says he is alive and healthy and ATM cancer free. So, it’s fine. It just reminded me is all. AND if you can’t laugh, your already dead. You have to laugh, otherwise we all end up crying and that’s no fun.

          • Actually it’s the first time I ever felt sorry for Melania. No brains, no personality, and an awful body to boot. Oh well she made her bed.

          • 17

            She quickly turned away when she realized it didn’t have money coming out the ass.

      • SmotPoker

        Much respect for the artist that did this bit of trolling. The veins add a nice touch as does the cottage cheese thighs…lol

        • Shohanna

          Right?! How, why?! it’s really good.. /nod

          • SmotPoker

            People were flocking around it to get photos of themselves with it until NYC workers took it down. Awesome. In his home city no less….

          • Shohanna

            OH!! That’s awesome!! hahaha

    • Edwin

      Not clicking “see more”

      • ? You’re only getting half a picture? Lucky you:)

      • SmotPoker

        Fraidy cat….

        • Edwin

          ran out of eye bleach yesterday

      • cathyx

        It’s not pretty, don’t do it.

    • towerofbabel

      What’s the red thing?
      (sorry)

    • Annaleigh
      • Shohanna

        Oh wow, they are going to make sure that goes viral. LOL

    • Annaleigh
      • Shohanna

        ROFLMAO!! The best response, they win the internets!! /nod

  • Edwin

    The 13 words you can’t write about Hillary Clinton anymore

    That’s according to the Clinton “Super Volunteers,” who have promised to
    track the media’s use of words they believe to be sexist code words.

    So these words are now off the table: “polarizing,”
    “calculating,” “disingenuous,” “insincere,” “ambitious,” “inevitable,”
    “entitled,” “over-confident,” “secretive,” “will do anything to win,”
    “represents the past,” and “out of touch.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/03/26/the-13-words-you-cant-write-about-hillary-clinton-anymore/

    • Edwin

      Making a note not to use those words.

      Don’t want to risk being called a misogynist.

      • doubleplusliberal

        All these words seem to be accurate descriptions of Sec. Vagina Not Trump.

        • Shohanna

          Hey there double! 😀

          • doubleplusliberal

            Hi Shohanna =)

    • Annaleigh

      Oh good lord, they are really too much. If they think people are just going to pretend Hillary’s candidacy isn’t a shit sandwich that most people aren’t looking forward to, then those Super Volunteers are really entitled, over-confident, and out of touch. Oops, I’m a sexist!

      • Edwin

        Are the Super Volunteers the same as Brock’s Troll Army (at $6 million and counting)?

        • Annaleigh

          Not sure, but the slight fascist overtones sound familiar.

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      Short circuited as well.

  • SmotPoker
  • SmotPoker

    Now for some really good news. We need something like this to break the monotony of awful news each day, nay, each hour.

    The original cast of the 1960’s Batman series will be reuniting for an animated Batman movie..

    The inner child in me is jumping up, and down with joy.

    http://www.alan.com/2016/08/17/adam-west-burt-ward-julie-newmar-return-for-animated-batman-movie/

    • The_Fixer

      “Golly, Batman! We could have been dead!”

      “Or worse, Robin”

  • Edwin

    Gawker.com to End Operations

    “Nick Denton, the company’s outgoing CEO, informed
    current staffers of the site’s fate on Thursday afternoon, just hours
    before a bankruptcy court in Manhattan will decide whether to approve
    Univision’s bid for Gawker Media’s other assets.”

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/gawker-com-to-end-operations/

    • SmotPoker

      Ugh. Those comments reminded me why I don’t really comment there. One could say it’s a nice day where they live, and someone would want to spend 5 hr arguing with you that it is not a nice day.

      • Edwin

        I haven’t looked at the comments. I was wondering if any other long-time big-name blogs might also go under in the near-ish future.

    • Killed by conservatives. Mostly closeted conservatives.

  • Edwin

    Newt Gingrich is now a hero at C&L. Newt uses his doctor credentials to push back against “TV doctors” (on fox and friends, no less) and Amato thinks that’s just swell.

    Newt Gingrich Defends Hillary Clinton From ‘Junk Medicine’ Diagnosis
    by John Amato

    http://crooksandliars.com/2016/08/newt-gingrich-defends-hillary-clinton-junk

    Amato’s words:

    Good for Newt.

    Gingrich delivered the knock out blow by stating, “I think we ought to recognize that’s kind of junk medicine,” Gingrich said. “That’s not the real deal.”

    Amen!

    • Edwin

      Now, see, if I didn’t go sneaking over there you’d never know about these gems.

    • cathyx

      Everything is just upside down now. Hilbots defending and applauding republicans.

      • Edwin

        For 9 years I watched C&L battle Republicans and Fox every single day and now that they are for Hillz…..

        • Shohanna

          Almost like Amato was brainwashed and bribed.

          Oh wait..

          • Edwin

            the guy is a putz

    • towerofbabel

      One big happy family. Newt! Come on down! Join the progressive team! The only progressives yet to sign up are Cheney and the Koch brothers.

      • Shohanna

        That sounds so wrong. It gives me the itchies.

        • towerofbabel

          That is where the DNC is headed.

      • Lord knows Cheney”s buddies, Kagan and Edelman are already on board.

    • doubleplusliberal

      How “Junk Medicine” saved a life.

      Over two years after first being diagnosed with thyroid cancer, Flip or Flop star Tarek El Moussa is in remission – and thanking the eagle-eyed viewer who just might have saved his life.

      The HGTV host met Ryan, a registered nurse, for the first time during an appearance with his wife and costar Christina on The Doctors on Monday.

      After watching a marathon of El Moussa’s popular home renovation show in 2013, Ryan said she noticed a lump in the host’s throat and emailed producers at the time to encourage the star to have a biopsy.
      http://www.people.com/article/tarek-el-moussa-meets-viewer-who-diagnosed-cancer

      • cathyx

        wow, i watch Flip or Flop. He’s not that old and he has 2 very young children.

    • The_Fixer

      Sounds like the old “The enemy of my enemy is my friend” stupidity. It’s the same way that U.S. foreign policy has been run, and it’s what brought us al Queda.

      Stupid fucker, that Amato has become.

  • Shohanna

    Well, at least they are still doing their police brigade, look what I found.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/video-the-lapd-didnt-want-released-shows-officers-laughing-and-smiling-as-man-dies-in-custody

    poor man.

  • towerofbabel

    “Green Party’s Jill Stein tied with dead gorilla Harambe and losing to ‘Deez Nuts’ in Texas poll”
    This is what passes for information on Raw Story. What a scummy outfit they’ve got going at Raw. Gets worse every day.

    • Edwin

      Never went there. Never go there. Someone posted about an RS thread one day, I went over and made a comment– BAM, banned. My history with RS was under 30 minutes. 🙂

      • Shohanna

        Wow! hahaha

      • towerofbabel

        I rarely go there. It’s more like going to see the corpse flower bloom. You only do it for the gross-out factor.

      • I like the new pic.

        • Edwin

          thx

    • Shohanna

      It’s part of the same kind of propaganda they used on Bernie. it’s gross.

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      That’s apparently teh new line of attack.

    • Sho’s right, it’s the exact same thing that they did to Bernie they can’t argue the policy, so they make baseless petty personal attacks.

    • dayanmao

      Imagine being so bad you couldn’t even be employed by Alternet or hacksandliars. That’s how bad you have to be to work for raw story.

  • Shohanna

    Oki I have to go to the store and get my meds, I been putting it off cause I didn’t want to leave the house. LOL

    Oki off I go, be back laters!

    • Safe trip

    • Annaleigh

      See ya later, Shohanna, I can relate…it took me days to pick up my meds because with this heat wave I didn’t want to go pick them up in the daytime and I’d have to walk to one of the restaurants or the grocery store nearby to get the taxi home. Never fun when the air quality is poor!

      • Hi Annaleigh, how is day going.

        • Annaleigh

          Hi Stephanie, not bad, just sitting around today, I guess. Since I did a pretty thorough grocery shopping trip last night and got home pretty late (so I took medication late and slept late as a result), I’m taking a break today. You?

          • This morning I did yard work. Which was actually pretty pleasant. Doing work online this afternoon in preparation for 4th quarter trips.

      • Shohanna

        I so agree, it’s not that bad today. It’s in the high 80’s. The past 5 days it was in the 90s. So I figured I get it done now. I got 2 pills left in one of my bottles. LOL

      • Edwin

        I’m up in the middle of the night because it was too damned hot to sleep. I haven’t had a good sleep in weeks. Very tiring, very draining.

        • Annaleigh

          Oh yeah, I read about that…it must be so miserable…I used to get mad when people here would say “at least it’s a dry heat” but I can easily see why I wouldn’t want to be in your shoes, it sounds so hot and humid there.

          • Edwin

            sticky day and night– gotta hose down

        • Sorry to hear that. It’s frustrating when you can’t get a good night’s sleep.

          • Edwin

            Thx. I’m going to lie down and see if I can’t get another hour or so. The sun will be coming up soon.

          • Sleep Well Edwin:^)

          • Annaleigh

            Good luck, hope you get some rest.

          • Edwin

            I got about 3 more hours of sleep. :~D

          • Annaleigh

            Yay! 😀

  • Um, yeah!

    For real progressives, Jill Stein is now the only choice

    At a moment where the Clinton campaign is still attempting to secure the support of frustrated Bernie Sanders primary voters, Stein demonstrated that Clinton’s brand of liberalism does not represent the tone or spirit of the Sanders campaign. By highlighting Clinton’s pro-corporate politics and active role in hawkish foreign policy, Stein raised considerable doubt about Clinton’s leftist bona fides.

    • s k

      Good article, thanks

  • Blue Basilisk

    I saw a sign on the back of a truck this morning:
    “No longer a Republican thanks to Trump and his voters. It’s YOUR party now. Have fun!”

    • Well, that is, this “season” what you’d call “The Work” moving the last of the merely extreme authoritarian/right sheep into the Democratic party, freeing the Republican party to become the outright Nationalist/Fascist wing of the Uniparty.

      🙁

  • Nancy

    hello everybody!!!
    this is making my day!!!
    https://www.facebook.com/TheYoungTurks/videos/10153853606694205/

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      Lol.. interesting title.

      • Nancy

        do you think they did that on purpose?

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          lol

    • Shohanna

      I can’t see it. Damn it. /sigh

      • Nancy

        sorry-it’s on TYT off FB.
        here-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcj2R4x6C2A

        • Shohanna

          Ty!

          • Nancy

            lol…sorry for the double posting!!!

        • Shohanna

          She was pissed dude! LOL He was looking at her like she was going to blow her head across the train. LOL I died laughing.

          • Nancy

            I think the next person that does anything like that in front of me will get the anger and rage that I felt for every time I was abused like that! this one sounds like she’s had enough and the dam has burst!

          • Shohanna

            Yeah, Same. I am proud of her for saying something! I am so tired of these idiots who think that’s fucking acceptable. Seriously.

      • Nancy

    • Hi Nancy:^)

      • Nancy

        hey you-how’s your day going?

        • Oh my, don’t mess with a strong… has had a hard day woman:^)

          My day is going well, how about yours?

          • Nancy

            lol, indeed. she’s had enough shit for today! lol
            nice to hear-I am enjoying mine-was working earlier and now relaxing.

          • Much the same,

            Here’s a relaxing video.
            https://youtu.be/fIlJyZEbrzo

          • dayanmao

            Sweet. I spent one summer on the very end of Montauk. The surf was so loud it was like constant thunder.

          • Yeah I’m not sure if I would find that sound very relaxing, it seems rather loud.

            That must have been one great summer, just for the beauty alone.

          • dayanmao

            I’ve had it running in the background since I clicked on it. It’s so… totally…. soothing.

            Thanks.

          • Yw:^)

          • dayanmao

            Actually, it made it near impossible to sleep, but it sure was beautiful.

          • LOL

          • Nancy

            nice! that is so pretty!
            thanks 😉

          • dayanmao

            Goes well with the whale video.

          • Nancy

            we seem to be on a theme here!

          • ;^)

    • MsPythia

      Hi Nancy! Today I found out that TBR78 is Ricki, and that she is the one who has been stalking me for years online. It’s good to finally realize this after all this time.

      Our chat starts here — (I also made a comment to Neb):

      http://www.mediaite.com/online/green-partys-jill-stein-has-serious-questions-about-clinton-says-she-was-too-big-to-jail/#comment-2843707553

      • MsPythia

        Damn — unfortunately that site is having major problems with their Disqus feed so it’s not linking directly to the whole conversation. You might have to load it a few times to see the whole conversation.

        • dayanmao

          I almost responded, but why swish up the pond scum.

          • MsPythia

            She’s viciously stalked me for four years — go ahead and swish if you feel like it.

          • dayanmao

            Oh, o.k. Like you said, most couldn’t load – I saw a few nasty comments not directed to you. I’ll give it another shot.

          • MsPythia

            Yeah, if you keep loading eventually you’ll see the whole conversation.

          • dayanmao

            What a nutter. It’s obvious she’s just going back and forth with sock puppets, then of course, she just loses it.

          • MsPythia

            Yes. She’s talking to herself — and Neb… is Neb even another person? Maybe, or maybe not…

          • dayanmao

            That’s what I was thinking, does Neb even exist?

          • cathyx

            Neb’s role in this is what baffles me the most. i get that ricki is crazy. But what’s up with Neb?

          • MsPythia

            Its very disturbing. I guess he’s in on all of it with her? For all I know they tag team stalked and trolled me for years.

          • Edwin

            He’s crazy too.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            I think he’s a separate person.

          • MsPythia

            Could be — but then that means that this sick shit is both their hobby.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yup

          • Edwin

            Until other people are stalked and abused they don’t get it. They’re all, “calm down.” It’s a crazy election cycle. It’s happening to everyone (a kind of Hillbot gaslighting). Hillbots are sweet as pie, etc.

            And then throw onto that Ricki is certifiably crazy and so is Neb. They are vicious, relentless stalkers.

          • MsPythia

            And they all posted to RS and AN and seem to be friendly with mods there. Also, they might possibly be in communication with Roxanne Cooper, or maybe Karoli?

          • Edwin

            Yup. Would not be surprised. Not in the least.

      • Nancy

        are you kidding me? that vile poster is actually Ricki? how did you realize this?

        • MsPythia

          You’ve got to read the whole thread (but it is having trouble loading) — just look for where you see 17, Edwin, and Longtime Carpenter Lurker posting and keep reading. And yes TBR78 is Ricki, and Neb is lying his ass off there.

          • Nancy

            I saw and read the whole thing. it made me sick in my gut.

          • cathyx

            Didn’t neb and her convo remind you of the convos that ricki and neb had at TBR?

          • Nancy

            yup-the same.
            ugh.

          • MsPythia

            Yes.

          • Edwin

            Like an insane person’s voices speaking back and forth to each other.

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          long story.

          • Nancy

            that was crazy town!
            wow…

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            I know. Just saying TBR = the banned room and that poster’s screen name. Think it’s a coincidence?

          • MsPythia

            Yeah. Also interesting that Neb has a sock called Nebdem78

          • Nancy

            good catch.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yup

          • MsPythia

            It became so obvious the more I read that it was her — and the she admits she hated me for years, when she didn’t even appear as TBR78 until the beginning of the primary. She gave herself away as my stalker because she forgot about when she’d made that sock.

          • Nancy

            ugh…that must be a relief for you Ms.
            totally insane.

          • MsPythia

            It’s good to know at last that she is my stalker online. Not that she will stop of course. She’s obsessed with the people she hates.

          • Nancy

            no kidding, and yes, she can’t stop now or it would be too obvious.

          • Edwin

            Yes, right. I have to keep stalking you because you know it’s me stalking you. 🙂

          • Edwin

            So Ricki is your stalker yet she pretended she was chasing your stalker away. That’s some sick shit.

            There’s a movie here

          • MsPythia

            Right?! I remember too that Panem et Circenses said they had the long list of names my stalker used in RS — and Ricki asked that the list be sent to her so that she could keep my stalker away for me there. It’s all so twisted. I never did get a look at that list, but I noticed that Panem hasn’t come here…

          • Edwin

            Nor has OV. Guess we’d better keep our eyes peeled.

          • MsPythia

            Yeah, my stalker had so many names that I called it the Troll Of A Thousand Socks at RS.

          • Edwin

            Keep in mind, Karoli and the C&L gang hate our guts and they use socks too.

          • MsPythia

            Yeah — the entire TPV gang. They hated us because we’re good at calling out the fact that Hillary Clinton is a pos Republican.

          • Edwin

            they have been convinced they are the victims of the evil BernieBros. All they tried to do was save the honour of their queen.

          • MsPythia

            Did you notice that Cali Cheese Sucks was upvoting them last night? That’s a mod.

          • Edwin

            can we prove it?

            Phoebequeen (at Plum’s) took me to task for saying that yesterday

      • Annaleigh

        Wow, holy crap.

        • MsPythia

          She’s been playing both sides of the political fence in order to play her sick stalker troll games with everyone. And I guess Neb helps her.

          • Annaleigh

            Jesus…she’s worse than I ever imagined.

          • MsPythia

            Yeah — I guess her twisted games are her only hobby. TBR78 is a troll who leaves her Shillbot dogshit everywhere in all the political blogs. And Ricki pretended to be a Bernie supporter to trap us in her spider web of a blog.

          • That whole part of the thread where they’re having this little sockpuppet conversation is particularly sad. Not that I can see it anymore, because i have wisely blocked those users.

          • MsPythia

            Yes — TBR78 and Marissa are socks talking to each other. It’s so obvious.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            *cuddles the ms.*

          • MsPythia

            Hi Spiffy! <3

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            <3

          • dayanmao

            What’s up with Nebdem, being such a lying POS and all. I mean, is that where he draws the line? He’ll post BS about TBR being an experiment, will back the crazy, but won’t participate in it himself?

            WTF is up with that?

          • MsPythia

            Like I said, I’m not even sure at this point that Neb is a separate person. Might be, or might not be. But Neb sure does excuse Ricki and her obsessions doesn’t he? Sure lies for her a lot to protect her. Makes things up.

          • Edwin

            Like one of those split/multiple personality types.

          • Edwin

            He’s a sick twisted fuck just like Ricki.

          • MsPythia

            Unka, along with those socks you saw last night, you might want to block an account called ‘baseball furies’ and ‘sarah connor’ too if you see them. Those are socks that my stalker has used (along with many, many others) in the past.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            *clings to the ms.*

          • MsPythia

            (((Hugs))) the Spiffy! At least I know now.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yea <3

          • Will do.

          • MsPythia

            Thank you!

          • Nancy

            just awful…

          • Edwin

            we are here for you Ms

          • MsPythia

            Thanks Edwin. And we’re all here for you too. At least we know they can’t fool us now.

          • Edwin

            yup

            they are more twisted than I first thought

      • s k

        What a POS

        • MsPythia

          My thought too! 😀

      • Edwin

        At Plum phoebe was telling me TBR78 is not Ricki. (hmmm)

        I explained TBR was nasty and does some nasty shit, but…

        • MsPythia

          She fooled us at TBR that she was a Bernie supporter too. Maybe she’s fooled phoebequeen that she’s someone else. She’s very good at playing sick games with people.

          • Edwin

            From what she posted to me last night I could tell she didn’t know the ins and outs of everything that’s been going on. That’s a danger we face because they’ll just call us crazy BerneiBros, or crazy Stein supporters, or deranged Hillaryhaters (which many already do) BEWARE!!! Take screen shots. Don’t take any shit.

          • Edwin

            phoebe basically already lumped us all together and said, “We don’t like your politics.” So, what do you think they think?

          • Nancy

            isn’t that rich coming from people that support Hillary Clinton.
            wow.

          • Edwin

            I’m not supposed to get into it with folks at Plum’s because they are our allies against Ricki and Neb. The enemy of our enemy is our friend, or something like that. :~>

        • MsPythia

          I do think it’s Ricki — it sounds exactly like her. And she admitted that she hated me for years, when that sock is only as old as the primary.

    • This just made my day!

      • Nancy

        a wild thing!
        or as she says – crazy bitch!

    • Edwin

      We’re not supposed to do that on trains??!! Yikes!

      • Nancy

        who knew eh?

      • cathyx

        What? Video record another person?

        • Edwin

          yup, that’s it

      • s k

        Only when they are moving.

        • Nancy

          hahaha

      • Well, the rules in Asian countries may be different. 😛

        • Edwin

          they have women only train cars because then men are pervs

          • cathyx

            Why can’t men just control themselves?

          • Edwin

            a question for the ages

            (and yet I still love them)

  • Nancy
    • dayanmao

      Watch out! You’re all going to get soaked!

      • LOL

      • Nancy

        right? I found myself involuntarily bracing myself for it!

    • Shohanna

      Oh, wow, that’s the best holograph I have ever seen. Usually it has particles and it makes me twitch and sick to my stomach. But this one was sweet!!

      • Nancy

        ahhh, glad you enjoyed it!

    • Blue Basilisk

      That’s incredible!

      • Nancy

        hey Blue-it sure is!

    • dayanmao

      Years ago, in the mid or late 70’s I did some work for the fellow who invented (or at least developed) the technology. They were on transparent tubes and when the tubes rotated, the figure (of whatever) would move for about 10 seconds or so, and loop. The colors were all blue/green too.

      It’s amazing what they’ve become.

      • Nancy

        that must be really interesting for you to see how far it’s come.

      • Nancy

        Unka just said this:
        Neat idea, but just a plain-old computer-generated video, no holograms or non-existent dimensions involved. 🙁
        which is it?

        • dayanmao

          I hadn’t researched it, but it’s certainly possible to create that illusion.

          • There are troubles with presenting free-floating holograms, the state of the art has barely progressed past the work done in the 70s. It’s (almost) all still illusory, inside a container. The technology illustrated (not demonstrated) in the video is like Google Glass, or Microsoft’s HoloLens.

            Sadly, physics means there’s going to be no “Help Me Obi Wan Kenobi” holograms, or anything like it in the near future, for the same reasons there’s not going to be any light-sabers: You can just make light go just so far and then stop.

            It’s something, being a big sci-fi fan, I follow research pretty closely and the closest we have to sci-fi holograms we have today, are “fairy lights” which use multiple femtosecond lasers generating an interference pattern and causing a point of air to burn. This video details it.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoWi10YVmfE

          • Here’s an example of some of the best-quality “in-container” holograms available today

            https://youtu.be/akPiJ-dGFyw

          • dayanmao

            Thanks, being the most unscientific person ever, I theorized this would be the way to make it work a dozen or more years ago.

            Also, not being scientific, I hadn’t followed up on anything and the closest thing I’ve read/seen in news regarding holograms was when Tupac “appeared” at Coachella back in ’12. So I thought, maybe it’s possible. But is sure did seem too clean.

            Oh well, it’s just a matter of time.

        • Edwin

          I thought it was magic, like the telephone Shows ya what I know. :/

    • Neat idea, but just a plain-old computer-generated video, no holograms or non-existent dimensions involved. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. 🙁

      FALSE: 7D Whale Hologram

      A video purportedly shows a “7D hologram” virtual whale splashing through a school gym floor, but it’s a promotional video showcasing “Magic Leap” augmented-reality (headset) technology.

      • Nancy

        hmmm, why is everyone exaggerating his then? why aren’t they just calling it what it is?
        this is one of many that you have seen through that I have posted-I must be terrible gullible.

        • Why people exaggerate things, well, people do that. As to how I knew: no special talen, I just read the comments on the video. The first one led to the Snopes page.

          • Nancy

            ahhh…hard to know what to believe anymore-thanks!

          • Agreed, it’s why we all need to get to be experts are digging out the background of everything!

            Now, this video is an excellent illustration of what using something like Google Glass, or MS HoloLens to create and augmented reality can look like. But you’d still have to wear some kind of eyewear/screen.

            😀

          • Nancy

            I naturally shy away from anything technological because I am totally clueless…so until I start to look beyond the exterior, I will never learn!

          • Like riding a bike, it becomes second nature, once you do it for a little while! 🙂

          • Edwin

            the young whippersnappers are technological experts on these computing boxes

          • Nancy

            hahahaha…hey!
            how are you?

          • Edwin

            pretty good thx, and you?

            Still wilting. Looks like next week the temps might go down to regular summer temps

          • Nancy

            I am having a great day…
            that’s good to hear Edwin-that must be getting real old.

          • Edwin

            There is a cumulative effect. There’s no relief- goes 24 hours a day.

          • Edwin

            we’ve been gaslighted and abused too many times

  • w00t! Tomorrow night!!! Can’t wait!

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      what’s tomorrow night?

      • cathyx

        Friday night!

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          well yeah. But was there something in particular XD

    • Chunga

      That is awsome. I wonder if I could talk to my local art house movie theater and see if they could book that. It would be great to pair it with Dweezil’s concert which comes in November.

      • OH, Sweet! They’re coming through town this time! I’ll have to go. I love ZPZ. It’s a bit of a drive for me, out in buttfuck-Egypt (what some people call “6 miles from Downtown Scottsdale”) but ZPZ is worth it.

  • s k

    Good afternoon/evening!!

    Now I know why google is shilling for Hillary.

    White House Official Cozied Up to Google Before Antitrust Lawsuit Was Shelved:https://theintercept.com/2016/08/18/white-house-official-cozied-up-to-google-before-antitrust-lawsuit-was-shelved/

    The revelation about the White House’s contacts with Google prior to the FTC decision is another example of the extraordinarily close relationship between Google and the Obama White House. In April, the Campaign for Accountability found — and The Intercept published — evidence from the White House’s own records of frequent meetings between Google staff and Obama administration personnel – over one a week since the beginning of his presidency – and spins through the revolving door between Google and the U.S. government. Nearly 250 people have shuttled from government service to Google employment or vice versa over the course of Obama’s tenure.

    Many tech industry rivals claim that Google still biases its search engine results and advertising. The European Union, operating with the same evidence, has filed three antitrust charges against Google over this behavior, the most recent in July.

  • Chunga

    Poor DWS must be having a bad day knowing one of her Sugar Daddies took a hit today on the stock market. Not to worry though Debs, States still have their quotas to meet for filling those private corporate cells.

    Shares of GEO and CXW are crashing to multi-year lows after The Washington Post reports that The Justice Department says it will end the use of private prisons.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-18/private-prison-stocks-crash-news-doj-phase-out-their-use

    How Mother Jones went undercover to reveal ugly truths about for-profit prisons:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/how-mother-jones-went-undercover-to-reveal-ugly-truths-about-for-profit-prisons/2016/07/03/014cafb2-3e0c-11e6-80bc-d06711fd2125_story.html

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/cca-executive-summary

    • s k

      I will believe it if it happens.

      Privatization: CCA’s No-Bid Family Immigrant Detention Contract Pays Off Whether They House Detainees or Not: Privatization: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/08/privatization-ccas-no-bid-family-immigrant-detention-contract-pays-off-whether-they-house-detainees-or-not.html

      • Edwin

        Whatever happened with the $386 million worth of detention centres Halliburton built? Who is housed in those I wonder.

        • Places like those “Family Detention Centers” and other such stuff. So, mostly undocumented workers and the like. Many are sitting idle, waiting for, I guess, more jailed immigrants.

          • s k

            It’s disgusting locking up families for profits.

          • Edwin

            It’s also disgusting the number of no-bid contracts given to sitting vice president’s company. That shit ain’t right.

          • s k

            I have been in construction for over 30 years and have never had a no-bid contract.

          • Edwin

            Were you ever VP?

        • Left of Eden

          The new avatar – Charlemagne?

          • Edwin

            I dunno. I just saved a bunch I liked one day.

          • Left of Eden

            It was my first guess, Edward III. I thought of him first, but for some reason went with my second choice.

          • Edwin

            I get onto themes looking at images and one thing leads to the next and I’m never sure where I’ll end up. Today it was the world’s 7 most interesting and sand spits. I know, eh??!!

      • Chunga

        It looks like this just applies to the Federal BOP. INS and ICE will be free to continue to use corporate prisons.

      • You have good reason to be suspicious! From Shadowproof:

        Obama Administration Isn’t Planning To End For-Profit Prison Contracts

        The DOJ directive appears to only impact private prison contracts with the BOP. It does not include private immigrant detention centers under contract with the Department of Homeland Security and Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, which account for a sizable portion of the federal prison population. It also does not impact private prison contracts with state correction departments—of which there are many.

        • s k

          I know, it’s just election year bs

  • Chunga

    TYTs cover the forgotten Saudi Arabian war.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlbEgyq2YEA

    • s k

      You know it must be getting bad when Hillary’s cheerleader the NYT is writing about it:: America Is Complicit in the Carnage in Yemen:http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/17/opinion/stop-saudi-arms-sales-until-carnage-in-yemen-ends.html?_r=0

      • kreskin

        No kiddin .

        • s k

          I guess it’s getting harder for Obama to fool the democratic lemmings

          • Chunga

            It may be getting for some folks, but the lemmings are still just that.

          • kreskin

            He doesn’t bother to try anymore.

          • s k

            True. They have their TRUMP card now.

          • kreskin

            The lesser evil is no longer less evil .

    • kreskin

      We are flat out complicit . Arms sales are more important than children lives.

  • Chunga

    I know there has been discussion here about Ken Salazar heading up the WH transition team. TYT’s bring up a few points showing his (and Hillary’s) pro corporate agenda.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YafsiaIwwfU

    • kreskin

      Was there ever any doubt ? She’s as Republican as Republicans get .

    • s k

      He is pro TPP, Fracking and Monsanto and I imagine that is just the ones we know about.

      • MsPythia

        And pro Keystone XL Pipeline as well.

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          Apparently they are sneaking in a new pipeline.

          • Yep

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            indeeds.

          • Chunga

            They just had a meeting this week out in the NE corner of PA concerning that. The residents are not happy about another pipline. There was another story recently here about a family whose property was absconded, pardon, part of their property was taken by eminent domain. They had been working the maple trees since the early 80’s making syrup and that was lost to the pipeline. One of the family members climbed a tree for a while in vain as a protest.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P23AhakcURA

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvp1n2gwN_U

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            🙁

          • MsPythia

            That’s horrible.

          • dayanmao

            THE BOD directors at that company need to be tried and jailed.

        • s k

          He will be calling progressives fucking retards soon enough.

        • I know who Hillary Clinton is. I know what she stands for, and yet when she does these things, that reveal the asshat that she truly is. I get pissed each and every time.

    • It’s nice to have a little diversity in our government corruption…Best line

      • Chunga

        “…. there’s not a single case where hydraulic fracking has created an environmental problem for anyone… ”

        It’s all I could do not to shit my pants.

        • s k

          I believe he was referring to “anyone” that drinks water.

        • Just a flat out lie…..unbelievable.

          • dayanmao

            Following Hillary’s footsteps.

    • Salazar is pond-scum.

      • towerofbabel

        He’ll fit right in.

    • kreskin

      Reminds me of James Watt , St. Reagan’s interior secretary .

  • cathyx

    The Biggest Hack Yet: Why A Leak Of Clinton Foundation Documents Is Imminent

    The DNC, the DNCC, even the NSA – there has been a surge of hacking over the past month, much of it blamed on Russia, yet the two perhaps most famous servers, Hillary’s personal email server, and that of the Clinton Family Foundation, had somehow emerged unscathed. Or maybe not: according to Reuters, the Clintons’ Charitable Foundation (which as we learned last week was the recipient of 96% of the Clintons’ own donations) hired prominent security firm FireEye to examine the data systems “after seeing indications they might have been hacked.”
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-18/biggest-hack-yet-why-leak-clinton-foundation-documents-may-be-imminent

    • s k

      That slush fund has about 3 Billion skeletons in it.

    • MsPythia

      I wish they’d get on with releasing some of that info.

      • cathyx

        Me too.

        • Edwin

          Especially the stuff that will lead to Hillary’s arrest.

  • s k

    Capitalism must die!

    The Climate Catastrophe Cannot Be Reversed Within the Capitalist Culture:http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/37281-climate-catastrophe-cannot-be-reversed-within-the-capitalist-culture

    Extinction is the product of a global attack on the commons: the great trove of air, water, plants, and collectively created cultural forms such as language that have been traditionally regarded as the inheritance of humanity as a whole. Nature, the wonderfully abundant and diverse wild life of the world, is essentially a free pool of goods and labor that capital can draw on. As critics such as Michael Hardt and Antonio Negri have argued, aggressive policies of trade liberalization in recent decades have been predicated on privatizing the commons — transforming ideas, information, species of plants and animals, and even DNA into private property. Suddenly, things like seeds, once freely traded by peasant farmers the world over, have become scarce commodities, and are even being bred by agribusiness corporations to be sterile after one generation, a product farmers in the global South have aptly nicknamed “suicide seeds.” The destruction of global biodiversity needs to be framed, in other words, as a great, and perhaps ultimate, attack on the planet’s common wealth. Indeed, extinction needs to be seen, along with climate change, as the leading edge of contemporary capitalism’s contradictions.

    Capital must expand at an ever-increasing rate or go into crisis, generating declining asset values for the owners of stocks and property, as well as factory closures, mass unemployment, and political unrest. As capitalism expands, however, it commodifies more and more of the planet, stripping the world of its diversity and fecundity — think about those suicide seeds. If capital’s inherent tendency to create what Vandana Shiva calls “monocultures of the mind” once generated many local environmental crises, this insatiable maw is now consuming entire ecosystems, thereby threatening the planetary environment as a whole. There are at present no effective institutions to deal with the “cancerous degradation” of the global environment that David Harvey argues is brought about by capital’s need for continuous exponential growth. And yet capital of course depends on continuous commodification of this environment to sustain its growth. The catastrophic rate of extinction today and the broader decline of biodiversity thus represent a direct threat to the reproduction of capital. Indeed, there is no clearer example of the tendency of capital accumulation to destroy its own conditions of reproduction than the sixth extinction. As the rate of speciation — the evolution of new species — drops further and further behind the rate of extinction, the specter of capital’s depletion and even annihilation of the biological foundation on which it depends becomes increasingly apparent.

    • kreskin

      It’s a a dead end road. The rich and their puppets will do us in rather than admit the truth. They’re flying high now , but free market balls out unregulated capitalism and corporate personhood is disaster in the making .

      • s k

        Floods and fires, we better get used to the new normal.

        • kreskin

          The snowball effect , we haven’t seen anything yet .

          • Chunga

            Combine all that with the fact that by 2050 there will be another 2.5 billion more people on the planet and it’s easy to see that we are screwed big time. The planet is going to shake us off like a dog after a bath.

          • kreskin

            Read about permafrost and the massive peat bogs , the methane they’re going to release.

          • s k

            Wildfires in Russia’s Far East

            Wildfires can add huge amounts of carbon dioxide (CO2), carbon monoxide (CO), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O) and black carbon (BC or soot) into the atmosphere.
            http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2016/08/wildfires-in-russias-far-east.html

          • Chunga
          • They’re already releasing.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHlw3JeJXxI

          • Chunga

            We’re gonna turn our planet into Dune.

          • Venus.

          • s k

            The planet is already treating us like a virus by raising it’s temperature.

          • Edwin

            Boot around some of these big Asian cities and you’ll see what a lot of people looks like.

            When my friend, who taught in Seoul and Beijing, and I visited NYC together we wondered where all the people were. :~>

          • Edwin

            You’ve turned yourself into a real boy. Run into the blue fairy?

          • Chunga

            I thought I’d try something different but I like my old avatar better. I threw it in the trash bin 3 days ago and can’t find it online to switch it back 🙁. I’ll have to keep looking.

          • Edwin

            🙁

            I hate when that happens.

          • My experience has been that even among the smartest and most informed people, they simply refuse to see it.

          • kreskin

            Greed trumps sanity , if one does speak out their career is over with . We’re on a runaway train at this point .

          • Not even talking about those who profit from not seeing. I mean, just ordinary, if well-informed, folk. People just are psychologically un-prepared to see what’s before their eyes.

          • kreskin

            Just a matter of time . Reality is going to slap them upside the head … really hard .

          • s k

            These 40,000 people just got slapped.

            40,000 Homes Impacted by Deadly Flooding in Louisiana:
            https://weather.com/news/weather/news/gulf-coast-deadly-flooding-thousands-rescued-evacuated-latest-news

          • kreskin

            Moscow , Russia is really getting it this summer.

          • Edwin

            this?

          • kreskin

            Uncle Sam’s , Arabat street . Highly recommended. Kabobs , burgers , fries … don’t forget a Baltica #7 . ( Left of Eden can probably vouch for me . )

          • Edwin

            I see. They really are surfing.

          • Yep, and 43% still think climate change is a hoax.

          • Nancy

            my mother being one of them.
            🙁

          • kreskin

            As if they haven’t been through enough already .

          • dayanmao

            The problem is, none of the 1% live there.

    • towerofbabel

      Excellent article but as Fredric Jameson once said “It’s easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.” He meant that we are so deeply inculcated with the ideas of capitalism that it seems inevitable–nothing else is possible even as we destroy the planet. For me, Bruno Latour is correct in saying that we must simply stop using the word because it is so loaded with ideological baggage and imprecise. For example this sentence from the article “things like seeds, once freely traded by peasant farmers the world over” can be be use in support of capitalism or in opposition to capitalism. Surely we are not going to stop farmers from collecting seeds and trading them? So what we are battling needs to be precisely defined or the debate gets swamped by overly simplistic ideologies. But this is an excellent article regardless.

      • “We live in capitalism, Its power seems inescapable. So did the divine right of kings.”
        – Ursula K. Le Guin

  • SpiffyTheValiant

    I resent the Hell out of the fact that one of Hillary’s goons is named Salazar. Her plaything is named KEN Salazar, to clear up any confusion.

    Salazar Slytherin may have been a racist against Muggles and Muggleborns, but the founder of my house would NEVER lower himself enough to work with Hillary Clinton.

  • SpiffyTheValiant

    -_- Political campaign ad for Hillary before a music video that had nothing to do with politics. Nice…

  • Nancy

    Jill is a cat woman-

    • Shaykayvah used to be TVASPEN

      Well that does it then.

      • Nancy

        right?!

    • dayanmao

      He’s much better behaved than mine. Mine likes to lay on the keyboard (1) or the mouse (2).

      • Nancy

        lol, they just love to “help” us blog…

        this was her comment attached to the pics:
        “Did you know I have an orange-tabby cat named Willy? He advises me when I work at home in Massachusetts, while I’m off the campaign trail. But he usually just gets in my face and distracts me. Willy has no boundaries!”

        • dayanmao

          When they want attention – they demand it. Nicely of course.

          • Nancy

            and will not stop until they get it…

        • notisaidthepig

          How lovely. Humanizes her EVEN more.

          • Nancy

            hey!! nice to see you
            yes, she is a very lovely human!

          • notisaidthepig

            Hi, Nancy! I’ve missed you guys!

          • Nancy

            work…gawd, what a way to spend one’s day! hope it’s not too bad…
            we missed you as well-the Pig is loved!

          • notisaidthepig

            Awww. So nice! But, yes, it’s back to the grind. I’m thankful that I LOVE my job. I just hate work. I hope that makes sense. Oink!

          • Yes it does. The Daily Grind is annoying.

          • Edwin

            It’s not the work it’s the bullshit. If you want to eat you must put up with 40 years of bullshit.

          • Nancy

            I get it! I loved my work-I just hated my job.

    • towerofbabel

      Cat Woman:

      • Nancy

        nice tower!

        • towerofbabel

          By famous Italian designer Enzo Mari–a true genius with gorgeous children’s books and wonderful furniture, etc.

    • towerofbabel

      No more guessing.

    • dayanmao

      Aw, give him one.

      • I think he’s going to take them all.

  • Edwin

    616 comments

    OV puts them over the top (600) and in under 10 days. I wonder how it feels to blog all on your own. No one else is posting. They don’t even give him a cruddy upvote.

    Should we start a pool for when they crack 1,000-for-the-crown? I’m sure a blog with one thread per month is a big draw for netizens.

    • dayanmao

      Hey, if it was just Nebdem’s little experiment as he claimed, then he’s reached his conclusion. They should just close it. Maybe the new experiment is how much despair they can take.

      • Nancy

        how fucking superior of him. what a cop out, what spin.
        sick fuckers.

        • Edwin

          it’s BS

          • Nancy

            even if it isn’t-they have just admitted to playing psychological games and conducting experiments on people that thought they were “friends” and welcomed into their blog.
            they treat people like nothing more than lab rats.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            It’s just their way of saving face.

            I don’t think anyone is like >:) Muhahah lots of people on the other side of the primary are getting banned. I’ll pretend to be their friend and put them all in one blog together and then get caught. And this will be an epic experiment that will prove without a shadow of a doubt, that I’m a dick with too much time on my hands?

          • Nancy

            exactly-that they would even try to spin what happened with this whole “we did this experiment deliberately” BS is even more ridiculous when you see how bad that is.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            IDK WHY they think that makes them look better, but apparently that’s what they are going with.

          • Nancy

            that’s my point!
            it doesn’t make them look better at all!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Like hahaha we started a blog that we planned to fail and made a lot of fake friends for giggles?

            I don’t get it.

          • Nancy

            desperation does desperate things

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            I mean I get the, “You can’t quit. We fired you.” logic, but not the rest of it.

          • Nancy

            right-you can’t quit, we fired you but then we let some of you back. but really we planned all of this anyhow, so we are still the masters of the game.
            fucked up.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            As long as they stay on the Internet and dont’ try any of this face to face, I guess we should count our blessings.

          • Nancy

            they are too cowardly to pull this anywhere else.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yup

          • cathyx

            And then piss them all off.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yup

          • towerofbabel

            It was an ego trip. They created the site. It took off almost by chance, mostly due to the interesting people contributing. And they rode it for kicks. But being egocentric, they couldn’t just let it go on naturally. They had to meddle. They wanted to mold the community into something that reflected their twisted minds.

          • Edwin

            I go over at least once a day to see how pathetic TBR is and LMFAO.

            Their scheme backfired and their blog crashed and burned. Now everyuone on the internet knows about them, LMFAO. They got what they deserved.

            Enjoy your crashed blog Ricki and enjoy your booze, ya tosspot.

          • dayanmao

            It’ll change when they can think of a better excuse.

          • Nancy

            ha! indeed.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Apparently that’s the best they got.

          • dayanmao
          • towerofbabel

            Or, we were the best they had, while that had us.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yup

          • dayanmao

            Nah, they’re just aholes of the Karoli/Suzie order.

          • Nancy

            I know they didn’t actually do that-lol, I think it’s a real dumb thing to use to spin it.

      • Edwin

        Neb can say whatever he wants, but Ricki loved having that blog. She defended it jealously and loved it to death. I think Neb did too. It hurts for them to see it go down in flames. That’s why I throw it in their faces. They don’t say, but I know it BURNS!

        Too much effort. Too much fun being king and queen. They fucking loved it.

        (I may have accidentally rubbed in their faces by email a few times. BURN.)

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      Saw the comments down thread, I need a looooooooooooooooooong shower, shudders.

  • Because, Russia…

    https://youtu.be/tVj0ZTS4WF4

  • notisaidthepig

    Good evening, everyone.

    • dayanmao

      Evening, did you ever get that hat?

      • notisaidthepig

        Alas, that hat was gone when I got there. I have a backup but I started work and there was some family drama yesterday so there’s been no time. At all. I will look this weekend.

        • dayanmao

          All that talk of hats and while waiting for an appt. the next day, I bought one for my wife.

          Look what you made me do.

          • notisaidthepig

            Excellent!

          • dayanmao

            Yeah, she was happy.

          • notisaidthepig

            You’re earning points! Oink!

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      My Pig <3

      • notisaidthepig

        My Queen. Yellow blue tibia!

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          It is good to see Sir Pig during these trying times. I am feeling in better spirits than I was an hour or two ago. But the Queen’s heart is still troubled.

          • notisaidthepig

            Oh, dear. I wasn’t even able to log on yesterday. What’s happened?

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Eh I”d rather not say here and bring people down. could tell you in email or at other place if you want. x.x Nothing life threatening or anything like that.

          • notisaidthepig

            Okay. I’ll see you there….

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            <3

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Hugs Spiffy.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            *hugs back*

    • Edwin

      Howdy, pig. Good to see you.

      • notisaidthepig

        Hi, Edwin. I like your new avatar.

        • Edwin

          thx– I got a stash of them

          • notisaidthepig

            My favorite remains the one you used……a while back. How to describe it? It reminded me of that cartoon? puppet? from that show Davy and Goliath that they used to show on Sundays. Do you know what I mean?

          • Edwin

            I have used Davy before. Was it the Ken doll? That’s a real Ken doll.

          • notisaidthepig

            I’m pretty sure it was Davy. Loved it! That’s my mental picture of you.

          • Edwin

            That I’m like Davy? 😀

          • notisaidthepig

            No comment. Oink!

          • Edwin

            It’s funny because the Hillbots, all of them, think I am a horrible, nasty, unspeakable brute, which makes me laugh. Yeah, sure, right. Only people with pure hearts can see the sweetness and light shine out from my inside.

            The reason Hillbots hate me is I don’t suffer fools and liars well and I beat down their stupidity in no uncertain terms.

          • notisaidthepig

            Yep.

          • Edwin

            You know ^.^

          • towerofbabel

            With a built-in crown.

          • Edwin

            some of them, some with hats, some with turbans, etc

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      Good evening 🙂

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        toad 🙂

      • notisaidthepig

        Hi, Daniel. Hope you are doing well today?

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          See post above. Yourself?

          • notisaidthepig

            I’m feeling tired too but that’s just because my body isn’t used to having to go to work! I was exhausted yesterday. Also, there was some family drama that took up time and energy. Sigh.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Sorry to hear that. I hope you get to unwind a bit and at least it’s almost the weekend 🙂

          • notisaidthepig

            Yeah, looking forward to the weekend with my book (The City of Mirrors).

  • 17

    For Ricki:

    • Edwin

      You know they’re reading here.

      Hiya, Ricki and Neb. Having a great time. So glad you’re not here. (Pssst- go fuck yourselves.)

      Enjoying watching your precious blog crash and burn. Don’t you think you should close up shop? At what point do you become embarrassed by your pathetic attempt to be bloggers??? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

  • Nancy

    …cause it’s a silly day

    • dayanmao

      There’s a new cat in my backyard, a brown, tan, gold, beige, white and black tortoise shell. She’s real cute and looks about 6 months old. She really blends in because of her coloring.

      I went to the bird feeder this morning and she was about 3 feet away sitting in the crook of the branch – I didn’t even see her till she moved. She blended right in.

      Anyhow, I don’t know if she’s a stray or a neighbors cat. I put some food out and she ate it. What a cutey. A chameleon kitty.

      • Nancy

        awe…such a little babe by the sounds of your description!

        • dayanmao

          She’s a little cutie alright. She reminds me of my first cat too, another tortoise shell.

      • Sweet.. I have a stray hanging around somewhere. I can hear it meowing but I haven’t seen it yet.

        • Edwin

          Strays live in my street, but people don’t like them or want them around. There is one lady who feeds them and the others get angry with her. I stay out of it.

          They come on my rooftop and drink from the water I have put out as a bird bath. I don’t want them to attack the birds, but I won’t deny them water either. A few years ago there were a pile of bird feathers out there so they obviously got one. 🙁

          The birds are my only wildlife here.

          • You would think they would welcome the cats, to keep the mouse population down.

            Sorry about your birds it’s always disturbing, see mother nature in action.

            About half of my property is woods so most of the fights for territory, mates or food happen out of my eyesight. Sometimes at night I hear them fighting so I open up the window or stand by the door and make a noise. They usually are quiet after that and I’m hoping that they stopped.

            One time I saw a Fox chasing a cat. And another I was working out in the yard and a low-flying hawk had a squirrel in its talons. I closed my eyes and thought circle of life:/

          • Edwin

            It’s true, but no one likes death (or fighting). I kow that’s how things work, but it still makes me feel bad/sad.

            Yet I watch as my butcher hacks up a chicken for me and like eating it.

          • Oh for sure..Me too. Nature is a beautiful b****.

            Isn’t that part of the appeal of the idea of Heaven…is that the sheep can lay beside the lion in harmony.

            I eat meat as well. I’m incredibly thankful… not that that means a lot to the animal in question, but at least I’m aware of the sacrifice. Because I’m aware. I cut down my meat to the absolute minimum of about 3 ounces a day which is a small portion.

            I always thought that if vegans and animal right activists just simply communicated to people what we need, which is a lot less than what we usually consume. They would have a more effective argument that would have a better impact.

          • Edwin

            Imma be in hell and there’ll prolly be lots of roasted me, including me. (I bet I taste salty and maybe a bit like chicken.)

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            You’ll be in good company 🙂

          • :^)

          • dayanmao

            I’ll feed anything that shows up in my yard. Way back when, when the squirrels were eating all the bird food, I put out squirrel food.

          • Edwin

            I am like that too, by nature, but I heard the neighbourhood ladies freak out on the lady that feeds the cat. No thanks!!

        • dayanmao

          You could always put some food out – if you wanted of course. I used to do a lot of business with Truit and White (a lumberyard up in Berkeley) and they had a bunch of strays.

          The caught them, had them all fixed, and let them back out. Employees would leave food out for them. I thought that was a great idea.

  • notisaidthepig

    Apologies if this has already been posted but I’ve not been around much the last few days. This comes from Marc Lamont Hill. I found the comments to have a lot of Correct the Record type posts. They are so transparent.

    For real progressives, Jill Stein is now the only choice
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/18/progressive-voters-jill-stein-green-party-candidate

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      wb ^^

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      It’s still a good article 🙂

      • notisaidthepig

        Yeah, it was. I’ve not had time to see how the GP Town Hall on CNN was received. I wonder what the rating were? Anyone know?

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          I got here about 10 minutes before it finished and then the feed wouldn’t play so I read up on Spiffy’s comments, she was good.

          • SpiffyTheValiant
          • notisaidthepig

            Love it!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            ty 🙂

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            yw

          • notisaidthepig

            I was able to watch (listen really) Democracy Now! this morning as I was preparing. Practically the whole show was with Stein and Baraka. Love that they are getting exposure. But they need more exposure from the M$M.

          • Yep, she was:^)

          • SpiffyTheValiant
          • Oh my God I just had a terrible thought you could have joined correct the record.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            My ethics prevent me from doing so, unless they give me one million dollars and then I will donate about half of it to the Jill Campaign just to fuck with them and keep the other half.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Don’t you besmirch my Spiffy! 😉

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            With great power, comes great responsibility.

          • I always told my kids we have spiddy ethics in this house. And that was the line I would quote to them. Great minds think alike:^)

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            <3

          • <3

    • towerofbabel

      The CTR trolls are painfully obvious, dim witted, thugs or phony progressives.
      Usually with less than 2000 comment histories.

      • Edwin

        they are icky-poo too

    • 😉

  • notisaidthepig
  • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

    Ugh, tired today. My android problem may be due to the crossplatform tool we’re using, Xamarin. It seems to be having some threading issues :-/

    Nursing some injuries again. Damn legs gave out and I scraped my hand. At least the muscle spasms I was getting on my left leg seem to have subsided slightly. Can I still go back to El Paso and murder some surgeons?

    • notisaidthepig

      Oh, no. Sorry to hear about your troubles. And, yes, feel free to go on a rampage.

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        So irritating. Had to wait for three trains to go by as well. They were all packed with Seahawks fans. Also noticed they were quite overweight.

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      *hugs*

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        Thanks, saw you weren’t doing to well, hope you feels better soon.

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          Mostly just needed to vent <3

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            pat pat

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            *pat pat back*

    • Edwin

      I think you should let those surgeons know. Shouldn’t they have to pay you zillions of $$?

      Sorry to hear about all that, Daniel.

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        They should, but Texas and they have tort reform rules and my parents didn’t give a shit.

        • Edwin

          That blows. 🙁

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Yes 🙁

            So how are you doing?

          • Edwin

            The usual. Just hot. (been about a month now) 🙁

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            I worry about you Edwin, just don’t get heat stroke.

          • Edwin

            I won’t. Showers and fans are my protection. The best is to get out of the shower (a rinse off) wet and naked and then dry with a fan blowing on you (6~8 times a day)

    • Sorry you are having a hard day Daniel:(

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        Thanks, just wish I could work from home, it would be easier on days like these.

  • notisaidthepig
  • s k

    The last two hours the power failed, the whole area was down. I just love the greatest country on Earth (according to FLOTUS) infrastructure.

    Goodnight all, have fun! I leave you with this-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBCdlBrgEmE

    • notisaidthepig

      Good night. Be safe.

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      Laters.

    • Edwin

      See ya next time.

    • Didn’t know, have a goodnight SK

  • notisaidthepig

    I thought I heard Stein say that the GP’s numbers in certain demographics were pretty damn good. It’s interesting that it’s not reported. All we get is the breakdown for the two UGH candidates. Take a look:

    Clinton leads Trump by 4 points in national poll
    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/291862-clinton-leads-trump-by-4-points-in-national-poll

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      The media wants to make sure people only know of two parties. They’re all colluding, we should be applying anti trust laws on them all.

      • Yep

      • dayanmao

        Speaking of which, one of the usual suspects repeated for the 1,000 time today “I’ll take the Green Party seriously when the run for something other than the Presidency.”

        If I could only reach throw the screen and literally throttle someone – I would. But only after I repeatedly smacked them upside the head.

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          They do, I’ve voted for them in local elections before. I’m also glad we have an honest to goodness socialist in the city council here.

          • dayanmao

            Of course they do, but it’s kinda hard to get any kind of exposure when the entire system is set up against third parties.

          • dayanmao

            Sure, then the response, “No something serious, like Governorships”.

            Thanks though, I just book marked it and while go through it in a bit.

          • Oh, it won’t shut up the shills, but to the non-shills reading, it makes the sHills look like idiots.

  • Chunga

    Disgusted With Sky-High Drug Prices, California Voters Take On Big Pharma.

    http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/37260-disgusted-with-sky-high-drug-prices-california-voters-take-on-big-pharma

  • notisaidthepig

    I never heard of this Dr. Drew. How reliable is he?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e3ARRQpyzA

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      I’m not really sure. Mostly he does things like Celebrity Rehab…

    • He’s a cable-tv clown. That said, haven’t listened to what he’s saying here.

      • Edwin

        Newt Gingrich has debunked the cable-tv clown doctors and John Amato is digging it.

        Newt Gingrich Defends Hillary Clinton From ‘Junk Medicine’ Diagnosis

        By John Amato

        http://crooksandliars.com/2016/08/newt-gingrich-defends-hillary-clinton-junk

        • dayanmao

          Fuck Amato.

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          Fuck him.

          • Edwin

            He says (Amato):

            Good for Newt.

            Gingrich delivered the knock out blow by stating, “I think we ought to recognize that’s kind of junk medicine,” Gingrich said. “That’s not the real deal.”

            Amen!

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Fucking sellouts.

    • dayanmao

      He used to do a show on KROQ in L.A. where he’d take calls on people’s sex lives. Other than that? I guess he’s a doctor.

    • Edwin

      He’s not, but… 🙂

      • dayanmao

        But he did say Hillary had “brain damage” so that’s in his favor.

        • Edwin

          You might enjoy this. I saw it at Youtube earlier this morning

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kmRB4a33_o

          • God, that idiot’s Libertarian ranting almost made my head explode.

          • dayanmao

            That’s why I didn’t watch it, about 10 seconds was enough.

          • dayanmao

            I didn’t watch it, is she drunk?

          • Edwin

            No. It’s about health stuff, but I’m not sure it is reliable.

            It showed up when another video ended, so I clicked it to see You know how you’ll see more videos to watch in the youtube box thing once the one you just watched stops.

          • After seeing a bunch of it, It smells, to me, of Breibartism.

          • Edwin

            It’s a silly video. I just came across it this morning. However, part of me is saying the “leftie news” is falling down on the job so we have to look at anything we can— right????

            The old bastions (Amato & Co., for example) are drunk-stupid on Clinton juice and entirely worthless.

          • Agreed, which is why I want to walk a very cautious line, as these RNC-loyalist sources are even less concerned with fact than the DNC-partisans like Amato and company! I refuse to get drawn down a rabbit-hole of nutty. LOL.

          • Edwin

            I removed it, but last I looked it was still there.

          • doubleplusliberal
          • Shohanna

            Damn! I didn’t realize how bad her seizures were. She is unfit to be president. Period. WHY is she still in the running?!

          • They’re not. It’s mostly concocted by manipulated footage. This whole Republican Party Partisan-sourced “Hillary’s Brain Is Broken” thing is a probably-conspiracy kind of rabbit hole I refuse to go down.

          • Shohanna

            I dunno, there is some truth there or they wouldn’t of been able to make the video. Let’s just say I have some healthy skepticism.

  • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

    On Monday, the Ford Motor Company made news with the announcement that it will build a fleet of self-driving ride-share vehicles. Whether or not that news had any impact at Uber is unknown, but today Uber and Volvo announced plans to partner on a $300 million program to develop fully autonomous vehicles by 2021, a year that now promises plenty of self-driving vehicles (we’re expecting one from BMW as well).

    “Volvo is one of the most progressive and contemporary car makers in the world. It is a world leader in the development of active safety and autonomous drive technology and possesses an unrivaled safety credibility. We are very proud to be the partner of choice for Uber, one of the world’s leading technology companies. This alliance places Volvo at the heart of the current technological revolution in the automotive industry,” said Håkan Samuelsson, Volvo CEO.

    Uber’s boss, Travis Kalanick, was similarly upbeat: “Over one million people die in car accidents every year. These are tragedies that self-driving technology can help solve, but we can’t do this alone. That’s why our partnership with a great manufacturer like Volvo is so important. Volvo is a leader in vehicle development and best-in-class when it comes to safety. By combining the capabilities of Uber and Volvo we will get to the future faster, together.”

    Bloomberg reports that by the end of summer, the people of Pittsburgh will be able to catch a ride in one of Uber’s new self-driving vehicles—specially modified Volvo XC90 SUVs. By the end of the year, Uber will have taken delivery of 100 XC90s. Uber doesn’t plan to build its own self-driving cars; rather it will produce kits that can be installed on other vehicles, a similar plan to comma.ai (George Hotz’s startup). Indeed, Uber recently announced plans to buy Otto, a startup that’s developing a similar kit for trucks.

    http://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/08/uber-and-volvo-partner-up-robot-ride-sharing-starts-this-summer/

  • all_hail_the_hypno_toad
    • dayanmao

      Incredible, we all know gigs cost more than they used to (to manufacture).

    • That’s what you get when you have regulatory capture by an industry. Answer, and you’re not going to like it: Stop funding your own oppression.

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        We also don’t apply anti trust laws anymore and we’ve legalized bribery.

    • Edwin

      Does that mean that if someone (hypothetically) downloaded a 1GB movie that would be their quota for the month at $30?

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        Then you get hit overcharges if you go over.

      • Only if they were dumb enough to keep paying AT&T the money it needs to buy our government.

        • dayanmao

          There’s only so many choices.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            We’re also guilty of letting them merge.

          • dayanmao

            The same way we’re guilty of electing Bush.

          • Starve The Beast. And I know for a fact there’s dozens of choices, if one bothers to look outside of the big retail outlets that push the monopolies, and they provide as little money as possible to the monopolistic companies.

            But it comes down to this: If you’re not willing to give up any of your completely superfluous (no matter how you rationalize it) consumerist frills, you’re never going to get out from under the thumb of billionaires.

          • dayanmao

            O.k. for phones, I’ve got one that’s unlimited for $20. a month. That’s a good deal. For internet service, the main players have divided up the country and you only get what’s offered.

            Years ago I had a warehouse next to the Ontario Airport (California) and within a certain radius, all internet service had to be provided by one, single, company, because the city had granted it sole rights – and it operated on a signal that wouldn’t interfere with the airport.

            It cost $259.00 a month, even though we only had two offices (whse) and two computers.

            Thieves. The lot of them.

          • Then, for internet, you do what I do: Buy the cheapest plan available. That definitely means not using “mobile” data and not giving, if the ISP is a cable provider, them any money for their awful shitty “Cable TV” streaming video.

            You may not be able to completely stop giving the thieves money, but you can not let them rob you blind, while making half-hearted excuses, like too many “activists” do.

            You gotta put skin in the game, you know? Me? I’ve moved to where I don’t need to own a car and only take public transport, have only a cheap $30/month “dumb” phone through an alternate provider. Absolute bottom Internet plan ($35/month), shop only at WinCo, etc. etc. I refuse to gladly pay thousands of dollars a year so billionaires can steal my future.

            I just see most people complain about all these corporate thieves, then turn around and give them hundreds, even thousands of dollars a month and think, well, I guess my reaction is more visceral than thinking.

          • This is actually a really important Point here. I don’t like blaming the victim.

            However co-ops and employee-owned companies are truly important and I completely agree with you 100% that we have to watch where we spend our money.

          • I don’t like blaming the victim, but there’s a point where you have to admit that people are self-victimizing.

          • dayanmao

            Whoa.

          • Well, what do you call it when people know these cell-phone companies spend their money to rip them off further, but keep buying the companies’ over-priced handheld computers and two-way radio service?

            I mean we’re not talking about victims of violence here. We’re talking about peoples’ voluntary decisions to use non-essential services.

          • Some are unaware, and others could just care less. Some benefit from the corrupt system and will actively fight change.

            A lot of things working against change.

          • And the biggest thing working against it, in my quarter-century of experience in trying to create change, is peoples’ lack of desire to give up the least of their creature comforts, to effect the change they say they want to see. I was that person myself, some 15 years ago, and made the change.

            Others can too, they just have to want to.

          • An appeal to principles is the condition of any considerable reconstruction of society, because social institutions are the visible expression of the scale of moral values which rules the minds of individuals, and it is impossible to alter institutions without altering that moral valuation.

            The Acquisitive Society R.H Tawney

            You and I have our work cut out for us:)

          • Sadly, after 25 years of trying, I’m increasingly of the opinion that, basically, people want the yoke, even if it kills us all. And they’re never going to change their attitude fast enough, it seems, to stop or even turn away what’s coming humanity’s way.

            It’s why I’m looking for land in The Middle of Nowhere, WA and getting away: Because that attitude, combined with the ongoing and worsening, catastrophic, effects of climate change mean things are going to fall apart faster than most people could ever dream.

            Till then, I’ll keep trying. There’s always hope, even if it is only a fool’s hope, and I’m the kind of person that want to fight to the bitter end.

          • I have similar thoughts and feelings as you, on the issue 🙁

            For myself those are the moments when I just assert that I do what I can and let the rest go. I fight the good fight. At least I can leave this earth knowing that I’ve done that.

          • Here’s an example: About 6 years ago, I gave a talk to a group of 60 or so digital freedom activists; anti-monopoly, anti-surveillance, EFF type of folks. I made this same point, and asked, “How many of you own iPhones, for example?” Almost 3/4s of hands went up. Most expensive phones, most expensive monthly usage charges, etc.

          • dayanmao

            Not exactly in my case. I cut cable/satellite about 7 years ago, the same with my land line.

            They’ve got you by the short hairs where I live. So far it’s verizon who just sold it’s division or area to Frontier Communications so the rates just went up again.

            We have the option of Time Warner, but there rates are the same and you have to deal with calling India to get a plan and prices (tried that two weeks ago).

            But I was just told that at&t is available here now – they hadn’t been before, and I’ll be checking them tomorrow. Dollars to donuts it’ll be the same – minus some introductory offer.

          • Look at Satellite internet. Cheap as houses. Not as fast, but…

          • And, I didn’t promise it would be easy, but creating real change never is. I don’t want to live where I do, but it offers me the promise of living within my values, and that’s more valuable than anything.

          • dayanmao

            Right, I don’t buy nikes, or any apple products, nor do I shop at Walmart. Who here buys Anything from Amazon?

            I don’t.

          • I’ve bought from Amazon, but only when the only other alternative is Walmart. And that’s only been a couple times.

          • dayanmao

            So it’s not people supporting the system, it’s how much they pay when they support the system.

          • Edwin

            My Mom read something years ago and the author explained if we all bought ONLY what we ABSOLUTELY needed for one week we could bring the corporations to their knees.

          • Edwin

            I haven’t really bought anything except food for a couple of years now. I bought a pair of shorts in Japan in a store for $10 because it was hot. I only ever bought 1 book from Amazon (8 years ago) because I couldn’t buy it here (for my yoga course.) And that’s me done for shopping.

          • notisaidthepig

            That’s amazing.

          • Edwin

            I used to buy a lot of clothes, but now I don’t. I have nice shoes. I never go shopping, never go to stores, never look.

          • Like you, I buy almost nothing but food. My other regular spends: maker-sold movies/music (no netflix/hulu/iTunes) the occasional concert.

            Bu of other “other regular” spends, there have been like maybe 1 or 2 a year, over the last decade.

            Oh, and I buy no books: I don’t buy dead trees and I just download eBooks and send the author money.

          • dayanmao

            My wife and I went to the local thrift store (which we also donate to) and then to Goodwill today. She picked up three “new” nurses uniforms.

          • Edwin

            I love thrift stores, even just to look around.

          • Edwin

            yup

            I learned how to live cheaply for freedom (or fewer ties)

          • Breaking away from the standard, consumerist, corporate entanglements (as much as possible, anyways) has been one of the most intellectual and even spiritually liberating experiences. It was hard to get going, but I am so much happier with my life now.

          • Edwin

            I’ve been tuned out of it for so long now I am horrified and grossed out by it all. I want very little to do with it. Obviously we all need things to survive, but as little as possible please. I cook and eat at home. When I go out I take my own bottle of tap water and that does me. I can’t stand the waste, the packaging/garbage created and the destruction. It’s way way way too much.

            I see a Starbucks cup and my mind wanders to a forest coming down for my convenience.

          • I hear that. I actually can no longer watch “Cable TV” video streaming when I’m at my mom’s, because of the commercials: They literally turn my stomach, with their blaring and, to me at least, easily spotted lies and manipulation of cognitive bias. I do eat out, I’m a foodie, but only at locally owned, non-chain places, and then rarely.

          • Edwin

            I hate eating out. It’s a pain in the butt. I think it’s from travelling and having to forage for meals every day and it gets to be a bore. I only eat to stay alive, not a foodie. (I like tasty food, but… ) I’d rather cook than eat out any day!!!

            Hubby has the TV all the time, in the other room (and I make him turn the volume down.) It’s in Korean so it’s easy for me to tune it out. When I am confronted head-on with non-stop English TV it’s more than I can watch. >>bleck<<

          • Edwin

            I have been playing with attachment for almost a decade. Playing with it and observing how it gets its tentacles into you, how hard it is to cut them off, how easily they can grow back, and how liberating it can be to walk away. It’s a never-ending game, an exploration, a contemplation. (it’s also a yoga exercise.)

          • Edwin

            I watched this yesterday. It might interest you. A whole new way. (So glad I grew up riding my bike over to see friends.)

            http://thoughtmaybe.com/generation-like/

          • Merci. It is on my list to view, from that site (which you clued me into, some time ago, btw, thank you!). The reason it’s kind of low on the list is that what they seem to be talking about, a lot of it is part of my everyday worklife, that kind of marketing/compliance stuff is a core port of what I call “putting together wordpress and IIS sites”.

            But I’ll bump it up on the list, at your recommend!

          • Edwin

            It was news to me how these young people become youtube stars and make money doing it and how the companies get involved… and how this “new commerce” works.

            It’s why everyone walks around looking at their phones, I guess. I used my old flip-open phone for 1 minute and 16 seconds in July.

          • I use “dumb” phone about as often as I used my wired phone, when there were such things. Maybe less.

          • longtime carpenter lurker

            If I didn’t need one for my work I would cut all cords and refuse to answer mail as well. I would be a hermit and anyone that wanted to find e would have to literally come find me.

            Probably means I would die after I fell and broke a bone, but that thought doesn’t really bother me.

          • Edwin

            That’s me, except for the internet. In Korea it’s about $20 a month for unlimited high-speed service.

          • dayanmao

            That’s A Bargain. My rates just went up to $79 a month and they’ve totally throttled the speed.

          • longtime carpenter lurker

            I dream of being able to do so, but god, clients, employees, and tenants. I pray that the radio waves arent energetic enough to cause genetic damage as I’m on that damn thing hours a day….

          • dayanmao

            You and me both.

          • notisaidthepig

            A person after my own heart.

          • Hell, man, I’m retiring into an off-grid cabin, miles from anyone: I’m sure to die from something completely preventable (like a broken leg, or fever,) if I was ensconced in our modern consumer cocoon. But, that’s OK, by me, because the freedom I’ll have before such a thing happens will be worth it.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            But that would mean no Unka for us ;/

          • I need to still work, at least until SSI kicks in, so I’ll be doing HughesNet satellite, at about $60/month for their bottom plan. Likely to be slow as shit, but I don’t need fast for forums/thread or uploading web pages. And I can work it at night, when there’s no one else eating the satellite signal.

            Mostly I need to get physically away from people, because the kind of breakdowns that the effects of climate change are bringing on make large groups of people dangerous for an old guy. I have no desire to die in Phoenix because i was fighting a 20 year-old for government-provided drinking water, or some such thing, you know?

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            ah

          • Too much history makes me all too aware of how fragile our “civilization” is and, in regard to Phoenix (and SoCal, for that matter) Colorado River flow is dropping precariously. The CAP is going to be getting 10% less water in 2017. And that’s only going to keep dropping. It’s going to be even worse for SoCal.

          • Edwin

            The American SW and its water problems is very worrisome. Millions of people live there and are used to a certain standard of living. What’s gonna happen when they turn on the faucet and nothing comes out?

          • Most people here are ignoring it, but we’re all going to find out, very, very soon.

          • Edwin

            That’s what I want to do, but I think about doing it in someplace like India/mountains where it’s way cheaper to live (and the people are so real).

          • longtime carpenter lurker

            I have a weekend cabin on a slough. I’ve planned to install a solar and wind array there, but I’ve held off the last five years due to solar prices plunging. Why invest 20gs when I can wait a few years and get it for 12. Battery backup is my main thing. Commercial solutions like forklift batteries are still problematic, there is no way I generate enough to go for the old reconditioned “submarine batteries” their discharge is insane. I am waiting for something like the tesla battery array, something that will have a giant number of charge discharge cycles to its life. At the moment it all runs on a propane generator, I’ll keep that as a backup backup, and also as I run the heat and stoves from it.

            Its probably not the most popular thing to admit here, but I also have a whole hidden cache built into a dead space, hidden in wainscoating and openable with a wire insert to hit a hidden latch. I have a whole damn closet full of revolution there. I’m not a prepper or an end times guy, but I consider all of those things put together to be prudent planning “in the event of”

          • Oh, you’ve been waiting too long, it’s super cheap already. it’s all doable now, plenty of good product. I’m looking at less that $5k to run about 1200watts average, 3000peak, 24/7, off a solar/wind system.

            Of course, if you’re looking to use power like the average suburban house, that’s going to cost you in the tens of thousands… But do you really need air conditioning and 1000 watt microwave ovens?

          • longtime carpenter lurker

            If I’m getting it from the sun and the wind why not?

            The big draws are microwave, water heater, fridge/freezer and ac. another big draw will be the rigs I’ll inevitably have running. Hell, I even installed floor heating under the tiles. On the other end though its very thermal efficient, well shaded, and built out of concrete, faced it with brick so it looks more like a normal structure.

            I figure I’ll run a system with an inverter controller that can trigger the backup gene if load gets too high, try and maintain the batteries with a fairly conistent charge.

            but yea, I actually estimate I’ll want around 5k or so input, then overbuild by 20% or so. I want that gene running as little as possible.

          • I’ll be using a Hypocaust-style system with a Rocket Mass Heater system, so that whole “AC/Heat” thing isn’t a problem for me. There’s some nice DC driven, quick water heaters, no tank, for immediate or too cold days, and a solar-absorbent tank for the rest. No refrigerator, root cellar, so only the freezer. And only a single-burner convection cook-top plus the aforementioned rocket stove for cooking.

            So, my only constant large(ish) draw will be a freezer. The desktop computer will be a big draw (400w average, 1000 peak) and the cook-top will draw a couple-hundred when in use. Don’t remember the instant water-heater’s draw, but about the same range as the desktop.

            If I’m vague, it’s only because I haven’t’ actually bought most of this stuff, just shopped it. LOL.

          • longtime carpenter lurker

            Most of the instant waters heaters are double 30 amps at the breaker, but then an electric tank is the same. The tank tends to be a steady draw though, where the instants hit the system about like a microwave.

          • Thanks for that info, good to know! the instant heater is the piece I’ve done the least research on, as I’m OK with a solar heating, mostly.

          • longtime carpenter lurker

            go with a small tank setup. small tank can heat fairly quickly so you could set it to toggle as needed, Just have to be careful that you dont burn out the elements, but thats only really a concern if its heating empty. Big advantage in price, and also having an extra tank of potable water if it became absolutely necessary.

          • longtime carpenter lurker

            Also, if your heating is wood centered, consider getting a generator and converting it to a wood gassification combustion system. You would want some small engine experience with that type of system, as it can occasionally get ah, I guess gunky is the word, but it would be a fairly easy to produce backup for an electrical system if you found yourself without wind or sun.

            Edit to add, with my system already being propane converted all I would have to do is swap the imput and fabricate a gassification box to hook it to.

          • Well, the only thing I absolutely need (more or less) full time electricity for would be the freezer (even the well-pump I want can be hand-pumped, if needed.) And the freezer I’ve decided on is a DC/Propane combo. So propane backup it is, which means I’ll also get a propane-fueled genny. With a mass-heater/Hypocaust system, I need all the wood-produced gasses for heating the floor and interior mass.

            If you’re not familiar with the rocket stove/mass heater style of system, here’s one of the more popular introductions to it. I’ve stayed in a couple cabins with one and damn, so they work great and are seriously wood-efficient.

          • Edwin

            Are microwaves energy pigs?

          • longtime carpenter lurker

            yes, they are a sudden and very high draw. Its real easy to overload a circuit with them. Typically I’ll wire kitchens with 2 outlets to a circuit specifically because of them.

            I have run into issues with apartments that I did not renovate the kitchens of popping breakers all the time. Its not code, but on the problem units I simply checked what wire I could see, and so long as it was sufficient gauge and not the ancient cloth and rubber coated 1940’s wire I just quietly substituted a higher amp breaker to solve the problem. Its not code, but its also not a hazard, unless they decided to hook up 4 microwaves, that might cause a fire…. But they are well insured.

          • Edwin

            Oh. gawd. You can’t imagine here (in Korea). I have about 4 or maybe 5 outlets in my apartment for everything. Tons of these buildings were built when people barely used electricity (because Korea was so poor). The whole country is full of electrical octopuses. People have 6 things plugged in where only 2 should be. And those extension cords with 6 outlets on the end are everywhere.

          • longtime carpenter lurker

            Because the local industry is essentially farming and a slaughterhouse I’ve had a ton of tenants that are here on H1Bs, How they consider slaughterhouse work to be skilled labor is beyond me.. As a result I’ve had a ton of wonderful tenants from central/south america, and now the main wave is west africans, I see a lot of that type of thing, its how they did it at home and so its how they do it here. Some of the extension cord nests I see are damn scary. I’ve seen cords under rugs frayed so badly there were scorch marks on the carpets. I usually get the call when things quit working and then I see the culprit. Fortunately I have a wonderful man from Burkina Faso named Adama, He works as a translator, been in one of my units for seven years now, I cut him deals on the rent for doing translation work for me. We get them straightened out, He actually wrote me documents in the various french/local dialects that specifically cover several issues, dont overload extension cords, and dont pour grease down the drain are the two I use the most. He also makes a wonderful “dont ask me whats in this” stew. Very spicy and tastes about like a really good buckwheat noodle savory meat curry. If thats a decent description.

        • Edwin

          I probably do more than the 30GB a month.

          • dayanmao

            You’d totally go broke here.

          • Edwin

            I could watch stuff online, but I download it for my convenience and a better player.

    • SmotPoker

      What’s really infuriating when you think about it is that it was DARPA funds that went to creating the internet. DARPA funds come from the taxpayer pockets. By all rights the internet belongs to all of us in America, yet we don’t even crack the top ten among nations with internet. Fucking Dracula has better internet service than Americans do. Fucking disgraceful is what it is. Greed above all else.

      SINGAPORE
      HONG KONG
      SOUTH KOREA
      JAPAN
      TAIWAN
      ROMANIA
      QATAR
      ISRAEL
      SWEDEN
      MACAO
      LATVIA
      NETHERLANDS
      JERSEY
      SWITZERLAND
      BELGIUM
      ICELAND
      RUSSIA
      FINLAND
      HUNGARY
      THAILAND
      LUXEMBOURG
      BULGARIA
      UNITED KINGDOM
      UNITED STATES

  • notisaidthepig

    Look at how the map is changing!

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      That is definitely good to see, just need the whole country and even better if those were electoral results.

      • notisaidthepig

        If they get to 5% of the national vote in November, they won’t have to go through this shit again. They will automatically be on the ballot in all 50 states. One of several benefits. I think they can do it.

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          I say we keep pushing, there’s so many dissatisfied voters you never know.

          • notisaidthepig

            Stein did quote some numbers for certain demographic groups that were VERY respectable.

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          For some reason, I now sense Jill will get precisely 4.99% of the vote lol.

          • notisaidthepig

            Oh, noes! I hadn’t thought of that…… I hope you are wrong!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            I’m joking…mostly. I wouldn’t put it past team hillary.

          • notisaidthepig

            I knew you were joking BUT we all know they are capable of it. Fuckers.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            indeed

          • dayanmao

            I’m not, both parties have a vested interest in nullifying any third parties chances.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yup

    • Shohanna

      Damn it, Ky is petitioning. :/ She needs to be ON THE BALLOT! **pissed**

      • Does your state allows write-ins Sho?

        • Shohanna

          Yes, it does. Which is why I was going to write in Bernie Sanders earlier.

          • SmotPoker

            That may be a waste if Bernie hasn’t petitioned the state to allow him to be a write in candidate. It’s not always as simple as writing in a name. Many states require that the candidate file to be a write in candidate. Check your local laws.

            Since Bernie went to the Dark Side, I doubt he’s taken the effort to petition those states to allow him to be a write in candidate.

          • Shohanna

            I won’t be writing him in anyway. He totally betrayed me by backing and endorsing this false narrative. I mean I can see it if it was his last resort. Right? But Fuck me running the dude didn’t even apologize for fucking us over.

            Naw I will write in Mickey fucking Mouse before I write in Bernie Sanders. However, it will be Jill if she isn’t on the ballot.

      • notisaidthepig

        Their petitions are due on Sept. 9 for KY. Hopefully, they will have enough signatures by then.

  • notisaidthepig
  • notisaidthepig

    Bernie Sanders Returns to the Public Sphere
    https://openvote.com/posts/bernie-sanders-returns-to-the-public-sphere-2a971a97ea2c

    Seems like old times! Bernie Sanders today announced that he will introduce legislation calling for the ‘public option’ for health care in the wake of Aetna exiting the Obamacare marketplace earlier this week.

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      Really wish he would continue pushing for single payer and not this bs.

    • kreskin

      Laughable .

      • notisaidthepig

        Even truer!

    • kreskin

      Did he get Hillary’s permission ?

      • notisaidthepig

        So true!

  • notisaidthepig

    Looks like Ajamu’s numbers are improving:

  • all_hail_the_hypno_toad
    • Edwin

      I watched part of series 1 and they wanted the Prime minister to fuck a pig. Are they all like that?

      • Mostly,IMHO, I found many of the stories to be kind of gimmicky and shallow, but there are a few, 15 million Merits, for example, that I find to be absolutely top-notch.

      • Mostly,IMHO, I found many of the stories to be kind of gimmicky and shallow, but there are a few, 15 million Merits, for example, that I find to be absolutely top-notch.

        Argh, it won’t let me NOT embed the 15 Million Merits video, so, here:

        http://bit.ly/1Hj6bmQ

        • Edwin

          I use this to find stuff. Works like a charm. Doesn’t seem to be any problem over here.

          http://www.alluc.ee/

          • By and large I don’t do streaming. I’m a collector.

          • Edwin

            I’m just a watcher. If you hold on to things you become their slave.

          • Not if: A) Those things are digital files that will hold 20,000+ hours of video in something size of a quarter of a shoe box and, B) Moving to an off-grid location where there’ll be none of that streaming stuff, for you.

            And that describes my current and upcoming situations, to a T. 😀

          • Edwin

            Aha. Yes. I see where you’re going. I download the stuff, easy to do. I have a remote disc drive with 500GB of stuff on it and now I am feeling like it is an undue burden for me to carry. I already deleted 70% of the movies because I wondered why I wanted to keep them.

            The rest is in case I hit the road travelling and want something to watch or series I could re-watch again. (Sort of along the lines of your thinking for your relocation.) But I try not to form any attachment to any of it. If my disc drive dies, so be it. The end.

          • My current storage requirements, counting audio, video “print” (eBooks, Comics etc) and miscellaneous documents is just under 12tb. All fits in a standard sized shoebox, or smaller depending on how much padding I use.

            Doesn’t worry me a bit. I have backups, and if I need to go, I just unplug the drives, throw em in a box and jet. My bug-out bag contains everything I need to use them with my bug-out battery solutions and a tablet, which goes in the bag as well. 🙂

          • Edwin

            You’ve done lots of planning. :~>

            If the shit hits the fan I hope to just throw myself over a cliff. :~>

          • Heh, yeah, if the shit hits the fan, I am, marginally better prepared than most. at least as far as the stuff I love goes. If you think I’m prepared to look after my media, you should see my plans for the cats (they get their own specialty tent, for example). LOL.

          • Edwin

            ^.^

          • I should also note: Unlike people on TV shows, I prepared for realistic emergencies, with realistic solutions. No pretending a “bunker” will see me through a “Zombie holocaust” here, but grid failure is a real threat. And faraday caged, on-grid bunkers won’t save you from that.

          • longtime carpenter lurker

            On that note, I’ve always felt that a digital updated version of the old “whole earth catalog” would be a very valuable thing to have and distribute.

            Load it with the basics of everything, how to for everything you might need to do to live but dont have the expertise for.

          • Ask and you shall receive: The Survivor Library. They concetrate on older works, that don’t assume much of our modern tech.

            And, yes, I have the complete thing, multiple copies, on multiple types of media. 😀

          • longtime carpenter lurker

            Damn man, thanks. I’mm have to start getting that all on a stick, and then get a good lead box to keep said stick plus small chromebook and foldable solar charger in. Emp proof it.

            Now I gotta sleep, but tomorrow evening I know what I’m downloading and archiving. o7

          • I’ve got it on stick, MicroSDHC, Military ruggedized HD, DVD, Blue-Ray. Multiples of some of them.

            Only things I don’t have it on are CD and Floppies, LOL.

          • I’m currently moving my entire video collection (thousands of movies and hundreds of TV episodes) to 4 two-terabyte, military-grade shock and water proof HDs, each the size of a think paperback. No huhu to take those anywhere. 😀

            I actually own, maybe, 8 DVDs and a dozen music CDs, and the DVD’s are superfluous. The CDs I keep only because they’re small-run editions from the bands of my close friends.

          • kreskin

            No comment .

          • Edwin

            Ha ha. Touche. I hear ya, kreskin.

            That’s part of toying with attachment. Sometimes you play with it and then boot it. The thing is to observe what happens inside yourself. I observe (inside). There is a mix of being pissed off and good fun in there.

          • kreskin

            An old man I used to know used to say it all the time , peace of mind is the name of the game .

          • Edwin

            Hey, it’s peaceful up in here. All my voices and I agree.

            Sometimes the way to peace of mind is calling a cow and cow. Then, afterward…

          • Being solipsistic, I believe all the voices in your head are me. 😉

          • Edwin

            If you dig kicking (gutless) “cows” around they probably are yours.

          • snap

        • Edwin

          Found it at my place. Will check it out. (519 MB)

      • Left of Eden

        No. I was so turned off by that episode that I almost quit the series for good. Good thing for me that I persisted, because a few of the episodes, “White Bear,” “15 Million Merits,” and “Black Mirror: White Christmas (the second half),” are excellent.

        • Edwin

          I’ll check them out. Unka suggested ”15 Million Merits” and I watched it tonight. Mush better than the pig one!!!

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        No, but it does have a bit of dark twisted humour.

    • There’s been a few awfully good stories as part of that show.

  • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

    Welp goodnight all. Really tired right now. noti, I hope you have a good day tomorrow with less stress. I saw Shohanna make an appearance, sorry I missed you, I hope you turn your schedule around. And Spiffy, hope you feel better.

    http://rpad.tv/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Tick-Spoon.jpg

    • Have a goodnight Daniel:^)

    • Edwin

      Good night, toad.

    • notisaidthepig

      Good night. Hope you feel rested in the morning and ready to tackle Friday. And, hey, it’s going to be Friday!

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      <3 such a nice toad.

    • Annaleigh

      Nite nite, Daniel. <3

    • Shohanna

      Night Daniel it will take me at least two weeks to change it back. :/ I hate it.

    • The City, Your The City sleeps soundly knowing you guard it!

    • The_Fixer

      G’Night, D.

  • Shohanna

    Welp, I am going to go get lost on imgur, still trying to figure out which one of those commenters is my daughter. LOL Later guys!

  • kreskin

    “We are the death merchant of the world”: Ex-Bush official Lawrence Wilkerson condemns military-industrial complex
    The military-industrial complex “is much more pernicious than Eisenhower ever thought,” says the retired US colonel

    http://www.salon.com/2016/03/29/we_are_the_death_merchant_of_the_world_ex_bush_official_lawrence_wilkerson_condemns_military_industrial_complex/

    http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=832&Itemid=74&jumival=736

  • Annaleigh

    So much stuff to do this weekend…college starts up again Monday (this semester I’m just taking journalism courses and sorting out what I have to do for graduation with my history/anthropology degrees…transferring to Cal State Bakersfield to start a bachelors is highly unlikely…I’m poor, my bipolar disorder burned some federal financial aid bridges when I was younger, and even scholarships meant for people with bipolar disorder or other mental illnesses require taking a full load of courses, which I just can’t do (precisely because of my illness but also my obligations at home).

    Tomorrow I’ve got to take library books back and start dealing with my fines (obligations at home has left me with very overdue books!), buy bus passes, get my hair and eyebrows done (yay, I get to feel human again!), and get ready to take Mom Saturday so she can get a pedicure (she’s diabetic, gotta take care of her feet) and get my pre-school mani/pedi. An then, oh goodie, my Monday class starts at 8 am…and when that’s over I have to get the next bus out of Bakersfield to get back to town to take Mom to the doctor. And Thursday I have to skip the class that day to attend my own doctor appointment. Way too much in a short time! 😛

    • I feel for you. During my undergrad work, my main professor, and department head, liked to get his classes out of the way early, so all 4 years my classes started at 8am, and I had a 45 minute bus-ride ahead of me to get there, so my days started at about 6AM, then classes went from 8am to 3pm, every day (I carried a 17cr load through my undergrad work). And I didn’t even have to deal with the add-on problems you do, so, to me, you look like a bloody superhero!

      • Annaleigh

        Thanks! The last time I had an 8 am class I got to enjoy some sanctimoniousness…a lot of students who actually live there in Bakersfield would show up late and sleepy, and I got to remind them that I had to get up at 4 am to catch a taxi at 6 and the bus at 6:45, and would show up on time and awake! 😛

        • Worst early class was 3rd year, “Russian Poetry and Song” a language class where Lee made us alternately get up in front of class and recite poetry or sing songs in Russian. At least it wasn’t one of the 300 level PoliSci courses, those required me to think too hard, which I was loathe to do at 8AM. LOL.

          And I had a similar experience with the “local” kids.: I took my first 3 semesters of Russian at a community college, but we used ASU’s materials. Thing is, the ASU kids usually ended up skipping the last chapter or two of each semester’s book. My CC prof, Dr. Story had NONE of that. So I was already ahead of my peers, when I transferred to ASU.

          (An example of how rigourous Dr. Story was, she set up a special class (in addition to Russian 201) for me and another Russian studentd, where she had us produce translations of a serious political/philosophical text, “Rose of The World”. It was a good workout, as the Russians are quite flowery in their language when it comes to philosophy.)

          • Annaleigh

            That’s pretty cool, although a challenge in the morning probably! My last one was also a bit much for 8 am (Sociology of the Chicano), but that was because the professor often brought current events into it, police brutality, TPP, other heavy stuff, and of course the history of oppression against people of Mexican descent.

    • Edwin

      I thought you meant Ricki was drunk and on her broomstick again, like last night.

    • Annaleigh

      Geez I wish it was October already…the cooler weather, the music, planning for the trailer park kids, the champurrado…

      • Here in Phoenix, October meant really cold weather, sometimes down to freezing at night, when I was a child.

        Nowadays it stays well above 100°f well into December. Ugh.

        • Annaleigh

          Yup, October is hotter than it used to be. Even in October at times it feels like it’s still too hot to be having champurrado. And I get overheated while getting set up for the kids on Halloween afternoon…

          • Edwin

            October in Korea is same as it ever was– Perfect, ideal, gorgeous weather.

      • SmotPoker

        Bite your tongue! October means I’ve grown another year older. Although on the plus side, slutty Halloween costumes!

  • Edwin

    The Jewish millionaire guy: I am a modern-day American slave owner because……… ->>the Holocaust.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbAr368CKGg&list=PLD4C7F19BB33C002A

  • Edwin

    The humidity has been building all day long to obscene levels. Now we’re getting a good downpour 5:20 pm. I hope that cools things off for the night. It’s enough rain to cool all the asphalt and concrete. Fingers crossed. Would be nice for sleeping. (still feels pretty sticky though)

    • Annaleigh

      Gosh. Hope it does cool things off somewhat!

    • We just got a nice 1 am downpour here. Lasted maybe 10 minutes. Cooled the air off a bit, but mostly brought that lovely petrichor.

      • Edwin

        my big word for today

        a pleasant smell that frequently accompanies the first rain after a long period of warm, dry weather.”other than the petrichor emanating from the rapidly drying grass, there was not a trace of evidence that it had rained at all”

  • Well, I’ve got the new open thread for “tomorrow” all scheduled to go live at 7 am PST, so I think it’s nappy time for me.

    I’ll leave you all with this advice:

    • Edwin

      g’night. cya tomorrow

    • Annaleigh

      Nite nite!

    • Edwin

      yikes

  • Annaleigh

    The 15th anniversary of Aaliyah’s plane crash is coming up pretty soon, and I have this vague memory that one of the other victims had some connection to town and was even buried here in Delano so I was kind of doing the morbid thing of trying to find him on Find a Grave. No luck, but one find did bring back memories, of Dack Rambo who had been a soap opera actor on Another World but died of AIDS when I was in junior high.

    He was a local and he came back here to die, was in and out of the hospital about the same time as my dad (Dad passed about 6 weeks after Dack Rambo). I heard once from some people who also had a really sick family member in the hospital at the time that Dack was very lonely to the point that they would spend a little time with him too when they went to visit the family member. 🙁 It was 1994 so AIDS was still quite taboo.

    Back then girls my age sometimes watched American soap operas. It feels a little dumb now but I did watch Days of Our Lives and Another World at the time. So on the day of Dack’s funeral it was a little weird, because his funeral mass was at St. Mary’s and I and some other girls were walking past there to get home from school that day. Having to let a funeral procession go by before crossing the street was something we were used to, but this was different because I recognized Carmen Duncan (from Another World) in the doorway of St. Mary’s. Dack’s funeral appears to have been pretty modest.

    Anyway, just a memory.

  • 17

    ..

    • cathyx

      Good morning 17.

      • 17

        Mornin’ ma’am! 😉

      • Annaleigh

        Good morning, Cathy and 17! 🙂

        • 17

          Mornin’ dearie 😉

        • cathyx

          You’re an early riser. Aren’t you in Arizona?

          • Annaleigh

            I’m pulling an all-nighter because I have a lot to do today. 🙂 I’m in California.

          • Edwin

            I saw your other post about getting ready for school. I have that in dream-form both as a teacher and as a student. I can’t find anything, I’m not prepared, I’m broke, nothing works, I’m late, everything goes wrong, etc. I had that dream the other night, going back as a student. Couldn’t even find my bloody locker.

        • Edwin

          Good morning, Cathy, 17 and Annaleigh! 🙂

          • cathyx

            Sorry to hear about your heat issues. Why don’t you have air conditioning?

          • Edwin

            Not to worry. I’ll survive. Summer in Asia is hot!!

          • Left of Eden

            A friend of mine has been living in Riyadh for six years now. Talk about hot! She’d probably envy you.

          • Edwin

            It’s the humidity here. The mercury might not be way way up there, but the grossness certainly is.

            I felt 44*C (111*F) in New Delhi and it was amazingly, breath-stopping hot, but there was not the gross humidity like here. That’s what’s killing me/us.

          • Annaleigh

            Morning Edwin! <3

          • Edwin

            I’m off to bed soon. 🙂

          • 17

            Good mornin’/Night, Edwin. Hold the fort overnight, did ya?

          • Edwin

            yup– very quiet, no events

          • 17

            Well, the weekend’s upon us. We all know what THAT means.

  • Edwin
    • Edwin

      They got some heavy hitters posting over there now.

      • Left of Eden

        Yes, and it’s difficult, or impossible, to rebut since it is a conclusion based on opinion, not fact.

        • Edwin

          It’s the caliber of the investigative journalism they do over there. Notice they are posted in Amato’s “Newt Gingrich is a Great Guy” thread (the putz).

          • Left of Eden

            Just read a number of comments on the image of the shell shocked 5 year old Syrian child page. They defend Democrats right or wrong, thick or thin. It’s truly disgusting.

          • Edwin

            Those are the kind of people they want there. They booted our asses out because we might post other than praise about baby murders and droning and stuff. Karoli is a very lazy editor, She does as little as humanly possible

      • Left of Eden

        These people must be paid trolls. Is it possible for people genuinely interested in the truth, and Democrats at that, to be so dense?

        • Edwin

          They are the people Karoli invited in after banning all the smart, nice ones like you and me (and most of us here.)

  • SmotPoker

    SmotPoker’s Words of Wisdom – When you open your stash box to place your hearing aid inside it for the night, you’ve had enough to smoke, and it’s time to put down the pipe.

    • 17

      Balderdash! I don’t ever want to hear those words from you again!

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