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The 1970s, pre-Star Wars, was a golden age for film adaptions of the works of H.G. Wells and Edgar Rice Burroughs (Non-Tarzan.) After the release of Star Wars, in 1977, these films, and their kind fell by the wayside, which I consider a downright shame,  and a loss for the genre.

Many of these adaptions featured a host of stars recognizable for other genre films, especially from Hammer House horror films. Production values vary from “pre-ILM Good” to laughable, but they always had heart and often some very good performances, given the low budgets and production time-constraints. This adaption of ERB’s classic Fantasy-Science Fiction novel, “At The Earth’s Core” is no exception. With excellent work by the always-dependable genre actor Doug McClure, and the unimpeachable talent of Peter Cushing and the classic Hammer-House regular, and classic genre actress (and a personal crush,) Caroline Munro, this is a classic you have to see, if you’re a fan of Fantasy-Science Fiction!

As always, Wikipedia gives us the full breakdown…

At the Earth’s Core is a 1976 fantasyscience fiction film produced by Britain’s Amicus Productions. It was directed by Kevin Connor and starred Doug McClure, Peter Cushing and Caroline Munro. It was filmed in Technicolor, and based on the fantasy novel At the Earth’s Core, by Edgar Rice Burroughs, the first book of his Pellucidar series, in token of which the film is also known as Edgar Rice Burroughs’ At the Earth’s Core. The original music score was composed by Mike Vickers.

Dr. Abner Perry (Peter Cushing), a British Victorian period scientist, and his US financier David Innes (Doug McClure) make a test run of their Iron Mole drilling machine in a Welsh mountain, but end up in a strange underground labyrinth ruled by a species of giant telepathic flying reptiles, the Mahars, and full of prehistoric monsters and cavemen.

They are captured by the Mahars, who keep primitive humans as their slaves through mind control. David falls for the beautiful slave girl Princess Dia (Caroline Munro) but when she is chosen as a sacrificial victim in the Mahar city, David and Perry must rally the surviving human slaves to rebel and not only save her but also win their freedom.

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  • Nevin
    • Pismo Beach!

      Always slow on Saturday. I’m sure we’ll see folks as they wake up and get their morning biddness done. 😀

    • Blue Basilisk

      Busy playing Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney – Spirit of Justice

  • Dakota Pipeline Will Proceed As Feds Undertake Smoke and Mirrors Policy Reconsideration

    That statement only announces a pause in the DAPL’s construction, in the limited area around Lake Oahe. The agencies retain complete discretion to decide when and under what terms to go back to the status quo and allow building the controversial Lake Oahu section go forward. There is thus plenty of time for yesterday’s announcement to be walked back after protestors break camp and go home. It’s likely that won’t occur until after the election — perhaps as a lame duck decision in the rump-end of the Obama administration. Or it may be deferred until after Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump is inaugurated. But I predict that walked back it indeed will be.

    • Dosido3

      I heard that on the radio yesterday. Awful.

  • A serious issue gets the research attention it deserves.

    ©APTURED – Systemic Bias at the U.S. Copyright Office

    Regulatory capture occurs when a government agency “is consistently or repeatedly directed away from the public interest and toward the interests of the regulated industry, by the intent and action of the industry itself.”

    This report examines regulatory capture – both its sources and its consequences – at the U.S. Copyright Office. Capture at the Office is widely recognized among many copyright practitioners and stakeholders.

  • ‘I Need Help’: Chelsea Manning Launches Hunger Strike

    Chelsea Manning, who is currently serving a 35-year prison sentence at Fort Leavenworth, has launched a hunger strike that she says will last until military personnel and others in the United States government stop bullying her and give her the help she needs.

  • SmotPoker

    Friendly Triffids…

    • Morning Smotty :^)

      • SmotPoker

        ‘lo

    • [click, click, click]

      If you hear that sound, RUN!

  • I’m sorry but sometimes I just like a good cat video.
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=88TrWUrP_Sw

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      lmao omg it’s doing pull ups with kung fu fighting playing. Is it safe for that cat to eat watermelons o.o?

      • cathyx

        I want to know why that cat was walking on it’s front legs. That was really weird.

        • SmotPoker

          I think it was doing that so it could spray it’s scent higher in the air. I dunno, I could be incorrect in my thinking though….

          • Well, I’ve had two cats who would do exactly that, for that reason, and believe me, I could see what they were doing (spraying). One of them, though he can no longer spray, still does it occasionally. I think he likes the attention it gets him from humans.

          • SmotPoker

            I’m pretty sure my cat Lenny, (the big gray one I always post pictures sleeping between my legs) has sprayed in my apartment. I’ve woken up to find a puddle of stinky fluid on the kitchen floor, and it’s ain’t been water from any leak or anything.

          • IME, they mostly stop being able to, once fixed. That doesn’t stop them from trying though. LOL

          • SmotPoker

            The weird thing is, he’s been fixed for years, ever since he was a kitten. I had a female cat that wasn’t fixed, and I didn’t want any kittens running around.

          • I have a couple males that go around and go through the motions of spraying. One even manages to get a little urine out, sometimes, when he’s doing it.

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          To prove it can lol.

  • SmotPoker

    My daughters nosy kitten was concerned….

  • Dosido3

    Time to feel sorry for First Husband to Be, Bill Clinton. You know, the former President who isn’t satisfied being a former president but has his wife running for President?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/10/us/politics/bill-clinton-campaign.html?mabReward=A1&moduleDetail=recommendations-0&action=click&contentCollection=Sports&region=Footer&module=WhatsNext&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&src=recg&pgtype=Blogs

  • Nancy
  • SmotPoker

    Hmmmm, this just reeks of a cover up. Police chief kills himself after being suspended because of a Sheriff’s office investigation involving “personnel” (Falsified forms? Falsified OT pay?) that they refuse to elaborate any further on which leaves us only to speculate as it would be irresponsible not to do so.

    I also question what “a tremendous public servant” he truly was considering he bolted one department after 18 years of service to take on a job with this department These assholes are known to department hop, and I must wonder if that is the case with this pig.

    Oh well, one less brother in blue we have to battle.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/mississippi-police-chief-suicide-officer-shoots-himself-after-receiving-suspended-2413903

  • SmotPoker

    My post below made me thing of the novel Day Of The Triffids. Has anyone else read the book? The film was shit, but the book was quite the read. I blew through it in no time at all. It’s not very large, if you haven’t read it, I recommend it.

    • Yep, the book is a classic.

      Which film, the 60s one? Yeah, that one was mediocre, BUY. have you see the 1981 version from the BBC? It’s really quite good, much closer to the book, yet with some modernization.

      The 2009 BBC production isn’t quite as good, but still far better than the 60s flick.

      But, I must admit though, “I got really hot, when I saw Janette Scott, fight a Triffid that spits poison and kills!”

      😉

      • SmotPoker

        The 60’s one.

        • Check out the two later ones. I think you’d need to torrent them. The BBC seems to have wiped them off of YouTube, which must mean they still get good sales of the DVDs. LOL.

          • SmotPoker

            Kind sir, I’ll have you know that I do not partake in illegal activities of any kind. Now you’ll have to excuse me while I go smoke a doobie…..

          • LOL

            Just so you know, “Illegal” may technically apply to file sharing, but be warned, don’t use the word “criminal” it is not a criminal offense, merely a civil one. 😛

          • Oh, and you can always buy them. You may even be able to get you media masters to let you buy discs you can view in the locked-down (to control what discs you can see and how much they can charge you for them) machines they sell you. 😛

      • SmotPoker

        Maybe if we cross a cannabis plant with a triffid we could have a plant that will walk to the store to get munchies for you after you smoke it’s flowers….

  • SmotPoker

    Oh my, Babs is poking the bear….ROFL

    I’m no supporter of either Trump or Clinton, but Babs is showing that she still has it.

    VERSE 1
    IS HE THAT RICH?
    MAYBE HE’S POOR?
    ‘TIL HE REVEALS HIS RETURNS
    WHO CAN BE SURE?
    WHO NEEDS THIS CLOWN?

    VERSE 2
    SOMETHING’S AMISS
    I DON’T APPROVE
    IF HE WERE RUNNING THE FREE WORLD,
    WHERE WOULD WE MOVE?
    NAME ME A TOWN?
    JUST WHO IS THIS CLOWN?

    BRIDGE
    AND WHEN WE THOUGHT WE’D HEARD IT ALL
    HUFFING AND PUFFING ABOUT HIS BIG FANTASY WALL
    MAKING HIS ENTRANCE ON STAGE…
    HE JUST SHOOTS FROM THE HIP
    HE’S FULL OF BULL
    HE’S LOST HIS GRIP!

    VERSE 3
    AND IF BY CHANCE
    HE GETS TO HEAV’N
    EVEN UP THERE HE’LL DECLARE…
    CHAPTER ELEV’N!
    WHO’D HIRE THIS CLOWN?
    THIS SAD VULGAR CLOWN…
    “YOU’RE FIRED” YOU CLOWN!

    BRIDGE 2
    HILLARY’S KIND…
    SMART THAT IS CLEAR
    WHILE SHE IS GIVING US HOPE…TRUMP IS SELLING US FEAR
    LOOK HOW HE CHANGES HIS VIEWS EVERY TIME THAT HE SPEAKS
    IT’S LIE AFTER LIE
    CAN’T TAKE EIGHT MORE WEEKS!
    VERSE 4
    THIS IS NO FARCE
    MAYBE HE’S BROKE?
    IS THIS “THE ART OF HIS DEAL”
    OR SOME AWFUL JOKE?
    YOU’VE GOT TO ADMIT…
    THIS SILLY HALF-WIT…
    IS SO FULL OF ­SHIT!

    https://twitter.com/DebraMessing/status/774485173245140992

    • “HILLARY’S KIND…SMART THAT IS CLEAR WHILE SHE IS GIVING US HOPE…”

      [RRRRALLPH]

      • SmotPoker

        Yeah, I thought that bit was overkill to the max. She has inspired nothing of the sort.

    • Nevin

      Someone needs to tell Messing it is You’re.

  • kreskin

    Justice Dept. Granted Immunity to Specialist Who Deleted Hillary Clinton’s Emails http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/09/us/politics/hillary-clinton-emails-investigation.html?_r=0

    • More immunity? Let’s hope it comes to something this time. But I’m not going to hold my breath. 🙁

  • Thinking nothing he can do, at this point, will ruin (or possibly save his wife’s shot at the White House, the “big dog” starts barking, rabidly…

    Bill Clinton, After a Year of Restraint, Unleashes an Impassioned Self-Defense

    Friends of Mr. Clinton’s say he has grown impervious to most criticisms, particularly swipes at his personal indiscretions, which could proliferate in the weeks before the election. Donald J. Trump has made winking allusions to Mr. Clinton’s infidelities and other controversies from the 1990s.

    But the focus on the Clinton Foundation, which has come under escalating scrutiny over potential conflicts of interest and foreign donations, has rankled him far more, according to those close to the former president, because of his deep personal investment in the foundation’s charitable work over the past 15 years.

    I’ll bet the Clinton Foundation reporting “rankles” him, it’s perilously close to fully and nakedly revealing him for the corrupt, greedy criminal he is, not to mention his wife and child.

  • This is for @disqus_nX8IaIQISp:disqus :

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    • SmotPoker

      Perfectly sums it up.

  • kreskin

    2016 Summer Nights Hottest in More Than a Century: NOAA http://www.webtopnews.com/2016-summer-nights-hottest-century-noaa-2271-2016/

    • We;re in a sequence now, where this will be true, every year from here on in. Not Happy.

      • kreskin

        yep

  • DOXXED! I’m no supporter of Doxxing, especially as it’s most often used as a tool to silence female media critics, but these people and this woman in particular are clear criminals and should be exposed, regardless of their gender, as they’re under the protection of LE, and will never be prosecuted for their crimes.

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  • MsPythia

    Did you guys hear about #BasketofDeplorables? Hillary’s 47% moment – she called half of all Trump supporters that yesterday, and it blew up on Twitter. Many of the BernieorBust and Jill supporters tweeting there too since we’ve so often been lumped in with the “undesirables” to her supporters. I guess we’re the BasketofDeplora”bros” You’d think that someone running for president would be smart enough to lay off a tendency toward this kind of sweeping name calling? You know, since she wants to be the president of all the people? But Hillz is not that smart.

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      yep. I heard about it.

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      But she only called HALF of his supporters a basket of deplorables. So that makes it better. You should see her surrogates trying to defend her.

      • MsPythia

        Saw saw this already – they’re frantically agreeing with her at that hashtag. You’d think she would stay away from such a comment – I mean lying to the Congress and the FBI, engaging in PaytoPlay as Sec of State, and rigging the primary are deplorable too.

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          What’s even better is how they rushed to say.

          But only half of them are horrible people.

          The other half are just poor dumbfucks who we hope that we can win over.

    • kreskin

      It appears that the fix is in , they seem to be pretty confident . I only hope that they miscalculate and blow it . Ohhh that would be sweet !

    • Where have I heard something like that, before? Hmm…

      “And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” – Barack Obama, April of 2008

      And that statement galvanized supporters of McCain/Palin. Could Hillary be trying to help The Donald shore up his bitter-clinger support (unintentionally, or otherwise)?

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        That was still nicer than the way she said it.

        • Yep, which is what makes me wonder: Was it intentional, or is she that stupid, trying to shore up support for Trump among the RNC base.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            I think it was half and half.

            Her base is like: Yeah! You tell them! They are horrible people!

            But then she realized that she is actually trying to win over some of these people she has nothing but contempt for… and realized her fuck up.

          • MsPythia

            She’s addled and entitled.

          • SmotPoker

            I’ll play Devils Advocate here for a second.

            Could it be that it was intended as a wake up call for the other half to look at their “comrades in arms”, and realize what a bunch of lying, racist, bigoted, homophobic, Nazi fan boy lunatics they have aligned themselves up with?

            I’d like to ask her that question.

          • Could be that was her thinking. If so, her execution was spectacularly bad. 🙂

          • SmotPoker

            I could see it as a strategy, but agree with the horrible execution. It could have been done much more eloquently without the brute force of the statement she made.

            She used a chainsaw when she needed to use a scalpel.

          • panem et circenses

            People tend to close ranks when you attack members of their group, no matter how they feel about each other individually. Kind of like someone might fight like hell with their family but often wouldn’t let any outsider get away with doing it.

          • SmotPoker

            Yep.

            “My brother may be an asshole, but he’s my asshole, and you can’t call him that….”

      • MsPythia

        Calling people frustrated isn’t as bad as denouncing them as deplorables.

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          Yeah and he didn’t outright call them racist, bigots, xenophobes, etc.

          The closest he got was anti immigrant.

          • That’s what I’m saying, above. That statement, by Obama, strengthened support for McCain, among the RNC base, at a time when it was flagging, so how much will Clinton’s even more “deplorable” wording work to shore up RNC support for The Duck.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Well people who are with Trump, aren’t going anywhere lol. It’s hard to shore them up more than they already are. But it might make a few people who were reluctantly supporting clinton go, my god what a stuck up bitch. “

          • MsPythia

            Or drive away independents. She sounds like an imperious asshole, just Mitt did with 47%.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Well I think independents sometimes fall under the reluctant support basket XD

          • MsPythia

            Believe it or not, there are plenty of Libertarian types that hate Trump and were thinking of voting Shillz- but this the kind of thing that will keep them from voting for her.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Who are these reluctant libertarians o.o?

          • MsPythia

            I know a few. They think Trump sounds like a fascist. But this makes Hillary sound like an asshole. These people will now vote Johnson even though they don’t like him much.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            *gives ms some money* you found libertarians who might support hillary. you needs to buy me a lottery ticket.

          • MsPythia

            Believe me I was shocked to hear this – but I didn’t get into them over it – the way we stay friends is by NOT talking politics! 🙂

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            lol guess so <3

          • Yes, but Republican voters in general aren’t all that comfortable with Trump, but what she said will get a reaction from all Republicans (see “in-group favoritism“) and this will shore up his support among Republicans in general.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Yeah I guess it does make people circle the wagons.

    • panem et circenses

      The lameness of that hashtag makes it pretty obvious it was Clinton’s PACs and campaign staff that got it trending. Nothing that dumb would be trending organically.

      • MsPythia

        No those were her exact words!

        • panem et circenses

          I know, and they were stupid.

          • MsPythia

            Weird even.

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      :)) Even MSNBC is saying that it’s like Mitt’s 47%.

      • panem et circenses

        She’s said a lot of things that’re like Mitt’s 47% and she hasn’t gone away yet.

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          Now she’s released a statement that said, “She regrets saying half BUT… Donald Trump is soooo horrible and so are some of his supporters. Maybe not half, but they are horrible. Look at all these horrible things.”

          • MsPythia

            Keep digging that hole Red Queen!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            It was like a one or two sentence “apology.” With like ten saying, yeah i shouldn’t have said it, but I was right.

        • MsPythia

          Here’s her full quote:

          “If you know anybody who’s even thinking of voting for Trump, stage an intervention. That may be one conversion therapy I endorse. Just remember: friends don’t let friends vote for Trump.”

          “To just be grossly generalistic, you can put half of Trump supporters into what I call the ‘basket of deplorables.’ Right? Racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic, you name it. And unfortunately, there are people like that and he has lifted them up … he tweets and retweets offensive, hateful, mean-spirited rhetoric.”

          “Now some of those folks, they are irredeemable, but they are not America but the other basket … are people who feel that government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures. They are just desperate for change … they don’t buy everything he says but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. There are only 60 days left to make our case and don’t get complacent. Don’t see the latest outrageous, offensive, inappropriate comment and think ‘well, he’s done this time,'”

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Haven’t heard the word deplorable used in awhile :))

          • MsPythia

            She and Bill have no room to use that word! They are deplorable!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yup

          • panem et circenses

            Kind of like Bill Clinton calling Sanders’ supporters sexist.

          • MsPythia

            Exactly.

          • kreskin

            Now THAT is funny .

          • kreskin

          • MsPythia

            Amazing how she says “they are not America.” Reminds me a lot of what the Dems had a freaking cow over when Sarah Palin said “real America.”

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            America is only defined as those who will vote for her.

          • MsPythia

            Yes, the others who will not vote for the Queen belong in the “basket.”

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yup

          • lindajoyous

            The Queen (Hillary) is a basket case! Hi MsPythia! 🙂

          • MsPythia

            Hi Linda! Indeed.

          • lindajoyous

            🙂

          • Nevin

            Now she regrets saying “half.” I kid you not.

  • Europe continues to lead the way in legislating the world into an Internet Dark Age…

    European Copyright Ruling Ushers in New Dark Era for Hyperlinks

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    • kreskin

      Are they outta their minds ? WTF ?

      • They are. But remember this is from the political mindset that also gave us “kitchen-knife-control” efforts.

        • kreskin

          Wow . It’s later than I thought it was.

    • panem et circenses

      Digging their own graves. Entertainment keeps the poor docile.

  • What causes traffic? Mostly the poor reaction times of humans driving cars. Even a simple lane change can cause traffic to back up for hours. What’s the solution? (Hint: it rhymes with “health diving stars”.)

    https://youtu.be/iHzzSao6ypE

    • panem et circenses

      I’m not getting into a self driving car until somebody invents me some self walking legs to take me to the driveway.

    • SmotPoker

      I’ll see your self driving car, and raise you a driver using his goddamn brains for now…

      Traffic Waves

      An excellent presentation.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGFqfTCL2fs

      • Would that even a small fraction of drivers were that smart and paid that much attention…

        • SmotPoker

          Look, I can’t drink my coffee, smoke my cigarette, read my Twitter feed, drive, AND think…..

        • lindajoyous

          Talk about paying attention driving like driving the wrong way on the freeway. In the town where I used to live there was a bad accident driving the wrong way on the freeway. They put dividers on that part of the freeway so it wouldn’t happen again!
          Good moring Unka!

          • Morning Linda! Well, afternoon, now, when I finally noticed this in my notifications. LOL.

          • lindajoyous

            Sorry it took time to get back to you, I reinstalled Chrome, disqus wouldn’t stay signed in. So far it is working now on your homepage!

        • 17

          I’d be happy as hell if these stupid sumbitches would just learn how to work a fucking 4-way stop!

          • Don’t even get me started on people and 4-way stops, these days.

    • 17

      Let’s say a kid runs out in front of a self-driving car and gets hit. The kid lives, but is in critical condition in the hospital. Who pays the bills?

      • It’s not that difficult of a question; it’s pretty well settled law, already: if the self-driving software is at fault, the manufacturer and or sales outlet of the software it pays.

        No different than, say, if the brakes failed in a human-controlled vehicle.

        • 17

          Not trying to be difficult here. Who decides “fault”? I seriously haven’t looked into this.

          • Local courts, generally. I used brakes as an example, but there’s a lot of software already in cars, and I can recall (no details, but I’ll do some actual research for us both, if you’re interested) a couple or more issues where some or other software in a car was found at fault.

            Of course, the courts are not immune from undue influence, but that’s definitely another item on out todo list.

            I actually think we need to start with limited-lane auto-drive vehicles.

  • kreskin

    The lunatics have another toy now , only cost us 4.3 billion dollars ! http://www.pressherald.com/2015/12/06/navys-new-stealth-destroyer-headed-to-sea/

    • Ridiculous. That’s college funding for all US-Citizen students for what, 2, 3 years?

      • kreskin

        It’s just sickening . War , power , rule the world , that’s what this government is all about , unfortunately . There needs to be a purge .

  • Sillerman-prize winning poet Mahtem Shifferaw reads her work…
    https://youtu.be/Nj4UYF0n-eA

    • panem et circenses

      She seems self conscious. I’ve always hated reading my own work, it never sounds like it does in my head. I can’t imagine what it’d be like reading to an entire audience or on camera.

      • I’m always wary of any poet who’s too comfortable reading their own work out loud. Can’t qualify exactly why, though.

    • towerofbabel

      That is really interesting. Thanks.

  • For our SciFi-fan commenters: Hitting theaters this October, from the Monster’s creators themselves, Toho, it’s “Godzilla Resurgent”

    “An unknown accident occurs in Tokyo Bay’s Aqua Line, which causes an emergency cabinet to assemble. All of the sudden, a giant creature immediately appears, destroying town after town with its landing reaching the capital. This mysterious giant monster is named “Godzilla”.”

    Co-directed by Hideaki Anno (creator of “Evangelion”) and Shinji Higuchi (director of Toho’s 2015 “Attack on Titan” live action movies), Shin Godzilla is the 29th Godzilla film produced by Toho and represents a brand new chapter in the 62-year history of this celebrated movie monster. The film stars Hiroki Hasegawa and Satomi Ishihara – both also from the “Attack on Titan” live action movies – as well as Yutaka Takenouchi.

    https://youtu.be/zgyq6YKeIms

  • SpiffyTheValiant

    Hinchley released from prison. The guy that shot Reagan is out.

    • Here’s a linkley: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/10/john-hinckley-would-be-reagan-assassin-released-from-mental-hosp/

      I’m always going to think, “How different would the world be, had he succeeded?”

      • towerofbabel

        That is suggestive of an unsanctioned thought. I hope you’re not having unapproved thoughts.

      • SmotPoker

        I saw what you did there….

    • SmotPoker

      I hear they set him free right outside Trump Tower…..

    • MsPythia

      So a guy who actually shot a president gets out, but Leonard Peltier, who they had no proof of shooting anyone remains in jail.

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        um yeah i guess so.

        • MsPythia

          Leonard is a political prisoner.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yup

      • Well, duh: Hinckley is white!

        🙁

      • Edwin

        what about all the guys in there for pot (and never getting out)

  • kreskin

    Wolf Blitzer , A-hole extraordinaire . https://www.rt.com/usa/358872-cnn-blitzer-jobs-arms-sales/

  • MsPythia

    Hear Ye, Hear Ye!

    • kreskin

      I can hardly wait …

      • Edwin

        Reminds me of that murderer from the movie “Monster”.

    • Annaleigh

      Can I say I’m neutral on Basket of Deplorables-gate? I despise Clinton and Trump both, but her HRH (*barf*) is right about a significant amount of Trump supporters. I don’t like being a subject of racism, sexism, etc. by one side any more than I do being called racist, sexist, etc. by the other side.

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        I’m anything but neutral on this one.

        • Annaleigh

          My take on this is, yes HRC is a jerk and she’s responsible for the weaponizing of identity politics against white, male, etc. non-Hillary supporters and the erasure of non-white non-male non-straight non-Hillary supporters, but Trump supporters are not innocent little choirboys and choirgirls on this one. They actively support a racist.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Exactly. She’s trying to paint herself as some champion for the oppressed and saying it’s horrible to be prejudiced. She’s just as prejudiced as any Trump supporter. She just demonizes a different group of people. At least Trump’s people are honest about it. They don’t pretend to be something that they aren’t.

          • Annaleigh

            Ok, I see your point on this one.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            I call him Mr. Pointy.

          • Annaleigh

            😛

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            It’s a Buffy the Vampire Slayer reference.

          • Annaleigh

            Just so everyone is aware, I am in the middle of another YouGov poll, and in addition to continuing to do my part to drive both Clinton and Trump’s favorable numbers into the toilet, I just marked them both as racist and bigots. 😛

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            xd

          • Edwin

            I’m with you on this. That she said that is deplorable. She’s running for president. You don’t call a large swath of the population a basket of deplorables; lump them all together and call them trash. I was shocked and disgusted when I heard her say that.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yup. though i imagine she also has a colorful adjective for non trump supporters who don’t like her.

          • Edwin

            It will stick and get bandied about to refer to Trump supporters. She knows that. That’s why she said it. And look-y here, her cheerleaders got their pompoms out.

            C&L had made 3 threads about this already today. What a bunch of fucking douchebag meatsticks. I am so disgusted by them.

            I haven’t read these articles and I’m not sure I will. The titles tell all

            1) Liberals Should Back Clinton’s ‘Basket Of Deplorables’ Comments, Full-Stop
            By Karoli Kuns
            http://crooksandliars.com/2016/09/liberals-should-back-clintons-basket

            2) Hillary Calls Some Trump Supporters What They Are: ‘Basket Of Deplorables’ UPDATED
            By Karoli Kuns
            http://crooksandliars.com/2016/09/cnn-shocked-shocked-hillary-calls-trumps

            3) Hilarious Hashtag Of The Weekend: ‘Basket Of Deplorables’
            By Frances Langum
            http://crooksandliars.com/2016/09/hilarious-hashtag-weekend-basket

            We know who the mean girls are; the real c#n’ts say that word

          • Edwin

            Kunt, the editor says this

            Why the blowout now? Aggrieved Trump supporters and Trump himself
            finally got a clue, because cable media decided to flip out over The
            Thing She Said. Then she went and clarified what she said without
            apologizing for it. They simply could not have the little lady doing a
            thing like that
            , which is why you will hear her statement
            mischaracterized by cable networks and some journalists as an “apology”
            for the entire statement, which it was not. (I’m looking at YOU, Poppy
            Harlow).

            It’s OK for Hillary to do it. It’s the press that’s freaking out and they’re also freaking out because she is a WOMAN, a little lady (the misogynists)

            Wnat a fucking douchebag KK is.

            http://crooksandliars.com/2016/09/liberals-should-back-clintons-basket

          • Edwin

            *Kuns

            D’oh. Oopsie. I gotta move the ‘s’ and the ‘t’ further apart on my keyboard.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Tee hee.

          • Edwin

            Hiya, Toad. Hope you’re feeling better today. ^_^

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Hey Edwin. Coughing up a bit, but my nose stopped running. Need more sleep though.

            Hope you’re doing well.

          • Edwin

            We are still reveling in the cooler weather. It’s hot around 2pm, but cool at night and early morning, like right now.

            I hope you can have a nice nap today– weekend.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            I have been napping and drinking hot cocoa, soothes my throat 🙂

            I like that type of weather, much nicer to sleep in.

          • Edwin

            Back when I drank, I always slipped a shot of whiskey into my cocoa when I was feeling poorly ^_-

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Yeah well, can’t have alcohol.

          • kreskin

            Still nice here but the hot stuff is over with . Fine by me.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Right because when Mitt Romney did the same thing, he received no blowback. It’s only because she’s a woman. *wink wink*

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            I’m sure with Willard it was only because he was a mormon /s

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            oh yes, definitely.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Brilliant. So they want to win elections by demonizing at least a quarter of the electorate.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            A quarter? Bernie bro’s, Trump voters, pacifists, anti wall streeters….

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Just talking about trump voters.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            I know, but she’s been pissing off all the other groups as well.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yup

          • Edwin

            They can go as high as demonizing 49%… and if the machines are properly fixed, maybe 60% (or higher).

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            lol

          • Dosido3

            Hilbots like them better than Berners, though

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            true

          • kreskin

            The vagina brigade at C & L , no credibility , none whatsoever.

          • But, I must interject, don;’t think Clinton is entire free of racism, in her support, because Hillary Supporters Are Pretty Racist Too

          • Annaleigh

            I understand this, I’m just saying that the Trump supporters in the Basket of Deplorables hashtag are acting like victims because of this when they are not. I’m pretty well disgusted with both sides.

          • Ah, OK, understood!

          • s k

            They are economic victims like the rest of the middle class that both parties have neglected while doing the bidding of their donors.

          • Annaleigh

            *sigh* I’m talking about the “isms” here, though, not the economy (although I do believe more of them would have been attracted to Bernie if they weren’t ok with the isms). People can be economic victims and disgusting racists/sexists at the same time.

          • s k

            IMO Trump would have only about 10% of the support he has now (the “ism”) if it were not for the economic policies of both parties, that’s all I am saying.

          • Annaleigh

            I feel that “isms” are more of a draw for Trump supporters than that. I supported Bernie and support Jill because of economic issues + my feminism, anti-racism, etc. I think a lot of Trump supporters are on his side because of economic issues + their racism, sexism, etc. otherwise they would have joined us in supporting Bernie and would be supporting Jill right now.

            This is a source of frustration for me. It feels like some people emphasize isms to the exclusion of economic/class issues, and others emphasize economic/class issues to the exclusion of recognizing the presence of the the isms. I think both are dangerous. So many in this country are suffering because of income inequality and an economy that isn’t working for everyone, and it just so happens that some in this country blame their suffering on Mexicans, Muslims, etc. instead of where the blame really ought to go.

          • Dosido3

            NAILED IT.

          • towerofbabel

            Bingo.

          • MsPythia

            And according to the DNC, Black Lives Matter is “radical” and need to be sidelined.

          • towerofbabel

            The people easily manipulated (in negative ways) by Trump are also the victims of the class warfare being directed at them by the elite in both parties. They are low information voters, but many are redeemable if we had an open and honest dialogue about what is going on. Finally, keep in mind that the DNC and Clinton Media will throw any real progressives into the same “basket” in the blink of an eye.

          • MsPythia

            Exactly.

          • Dosido3

            The counterpunch article Unka linked yesterday is a good one on this.

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        I see what you’re saying, but I’ve also seen some local Hillbots act really racist. I seriously wonder if some of them are only voting for her as a cover for their own racism/sexism.

        And yes, some Trump supporters are full blown nazis. Then there’s the group that has been marginalized and disenfranchised for so long they’ve bought into the lies of blaming minorities/women/etc. I feel like the last group could be reached but we really need to stop letting neoliberals in, neoliberalism just leads to right wing populism.

        • I believe it: Clinton’s supporters are, without exception, right-wing economically, and socially authoritarian and racism is a given feature of the socially-authoritarian mindset.

      • MsPythia

        Just want to remind everyone that it wasn’t Trump who said “super-predator” or was a cheerleader for the end of Welfare and the rise of mass incarceration and the prison industrial complex.

        • Annaleigh

          This why I said I’m “neutral,” HRC is a racist too but I’m not going to pretend that Trump and a lot of his supporters aren’t racists.

          • MsPythia

            I get it Annaleigh, I really do. It’s just that I realize that it’s yet another instance of her acting like an arrogant elitist and a hypocrite. And the whole “they’re not America” shit really pisses me off since they howled in outrage when Palin pulled the same shit. The fact is, yes they are American, just like progressives are American. This getting up on a high horse doesn’t solve shit about what needs to change.

      • Edwin

        I don’t buy that the racists and homophones (etc.) are neatly divided by party. I’m sure there are plenty in both parties with a higher number being right wingers.

        She did hurl the accusation at “half” of his supporters, or tens of millions of people.

        I think it was irresponsible, yet also very calculated, and that she is a nastyc.unt.

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          So called liberal Seattleites and Portlanders have been incredibly douchey and violent towards me. For people that are supposedly tolerant they’ve shown anything but.

          • Edwin

            It’s one thing to say you’re tolerant, it’s another to be tolerant.

        • Annaleigh

          I don’t think they’re neatly divided by party either. But Trump did say people of my ethnicity are rapists and “some are nice people” and that someone of my ethnicity cannot objectively serve as a judge in any court case involving Trump. Plenty of Trump’s supporters are *ok* with him saying this and more. HRC being awful doesn’t make what Trump has done and said or what his supporters have done and said go away.

          • Edwin

            Trump has said all kinds of nasty things. Not denying that for a second.

            I bet a lot of Clinton supporters are OK with some of the stuff Trump said too, but no one ever asks. There seems to be some sort of popular assumption that people voting Dem are not racists, not homophobes, etc., but I don’t buy that.

            Anyway, my issue is with Clinton. What she said is disgusting and bigoted. You can’t be running for prez and just collectively smear a whole segment of society like they are one and the same. She smeared millions of individuals.

            It reminds me of Hitler when he started openly saying the Jews were deplorable. No difference. She did the same thing. (Think about it.)

          • Dosido3

            I hear what you are saying and I do not disagree. I want to add the reverse is also true. Trump being awful doesn’t make what Clinton has done and said or what her supporters have done and said go away. I direct this comment not at you, but at hilbots and MSM. Thank you!

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad
    • s k

      It’s the policies of the corporate neoliberal democrats with the GOP that has given rise to Trump and the anger that many his supporters have.

      From Hillary’s speech-— “but that other basket of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they’re just desperate for change. It doesn’t really even matter where it comes from”.

      • kreskin

        Basket of people ? Spoken like a true Republicon .

    • towerofbabel

      The Queen thing is to working for Hillary. It just deepen the hate for her on both the right and left.

    • Edwin

      That was beyond the pale. I was very surprised she said that.

  • kreskin

    The Russians are coming! Twitter flips over Trump interview with Larry King on RT https://www.rt.com/usa/358856-trump-king-rt-twitter/
    ( Listen to Ed Shultz clip .)

    • s k

      This is what that lying corporate whore war pig said in 2012

      In 2012, Clinton Attacked Romney’s Russia Comments, Called Russia “Ally”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFJGufkcEj0

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        holy shit she looks like 10 or even 20 years younger there than she does today.

        • s k

          I guess coughing up one’s bowels ages them.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            yup

        • panem et circenses

          It’s CNN. They probably applied every filter possible to make her look good.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Those are some damn good filters.

      • Dosido3

        you say black, she says white. You say white, she says no, it’s black. That is all.

      • kreskin

        A human weather vane , no consistency . She has no credibility , none whatsoever.

    • Stinks to high heaven of what warmongers like Clinton, Bush, Cheney, et al. did to Aljazeera America, which was a great source of real journalism.

      • s k

        I was disappointed when they went off the air, what a shame.

    • Edwin
      • towerofbabel

        Thanks Edwin. This is the stark truth.

      • kreskin

        I saved them both , will watch later.

    • Edwin
  • Soon You Won’t Be Able to Tell an AI From a Human Voice

    In a new paper, scientists at Google-owned AI shop DeepMind have unveiled WaveNet, a neural network that generates audio waveforms by predicting and adapting to its own output in real-time. The result is dramatically more natural-sounding computerized speech, which the researchers say reduces the perceived gap between human and computer voices speaking both English and Chinese by over 50 percent.

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      I’m more concerned with when the capitalists will replace the rest of us with machines so they can keep all the money. The funny thing is, executives are supposed to be bound by rules and those can be easily coded so they should be the ones replaced.

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        Toad 🙂

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          How are you doing?

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            good u 🙂

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Slightly better, need more sleep.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            awe <3

      • 17

        Who pays them money when there are no customers?

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          I’m sure they’ll get laws passed in their favor.

          • 17

            When everyone’s replaced by a machine, no one has a job. People without jobs don’t spend money. Who’s a customer when no one spends? The rich gonna start trading money among themselves? For what?

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            I meant at that point they’ll just get laws saying the wealth belongs to only them, neo feudalism again, yay.

          • File that under “Why We Must Fight!” 😀

          • I think the “Robots Will Replace Us All!!!!!” is pretty much just paranoid fantasizing by Silicon Valley Tech-Bros. and the journalists who lick their taints.

          • 17

            I actually agree. There is no money to be stolen from a non-paid robot.

          • There was a great article published, like earlier this year, that had a reporter go to one of these tech-bro evangelizing/back-slapping conferences and laid bare their neofeudal (literally) bullshit ideas, and the idea that they will replace most workers (and hence keep more wealth for themselves.) The reporter then went on to provide a slew of facts as to why that is bullshit.

            So, generally, I don’t fear driverless cars, and, in fact, because of they are safer than lots of cars with drivers everywhere, welcome a time when people aren’t allowed to drive, on city roads, at least.

          • Dosido3

            some might argue that wages are the stolen money!

          • towerofbabel

            This is why economists like Paul Mason are talking about a guaranteed minimum wage/stipend. But why would the rich want that? What’s the point of being stinking rich is other people aren’t suffering? It just ruins the fun.

        • towerofbabel

          The can pillage the rest of the earth with impunity. Until it dies.

    • towerofbabel

      This could replace the Hill-Bots entirely.

      • Naw, just make Brock richer, as then he doesn’t have to employ as many people to make push-poll calls.

        • towerofbabel

          Put a lot of CTR troll on welfare, that Hill will get rid of entirely.

          • That’s OK, she will fully support them…in their new job of dying as quickly as possible.

  • The Science of Auroras

    Our atmosphere, the thin membrane that separates Earth from space, is a remarkable geophysical laboratory. In it are synthesized the fascinating colored lights known as auroras, one of nature’s most splendid phenomena. Now that the sunspot cycle is reaching its peak, we can expect auroras to light up our night skies with greater frequency.

    • I can watch SharkCat, all day…

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLt5rBfNucc

      • Dosido3

        the most chill cat evah!

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        uh oh there goes the duck o.o

        • The great thing is, he’s totally disinterested in that duck, just in riding the Roomba. And he purrs! I ROFL, every time.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            XD

          • Dosido3

            me too!

      • towerofbabel

        The duckling is thinking, mom wait! mom wait! what?
        Oh, this is a crazy house. There’s a pit bull too.
        I wonder if the cat’s tail helps pick up dog hair?

        • I’ve seen that look on my pitties before. It’s the “Dad, I really hate this, but I’ll suffer through it because LURVE YOU!” look. Bath time is a great time to see that look in action.

  • smkngman3

    AIPAC whores lose!

    “Probe says speech in anti-Semitic CUNY incidents is covered by First Amendment”

    CUNY officials commissioned the report after the Zionist Organization of America complained earlier this year about incidents involving pro-Palestinian activists.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/education/probe-anti-semitic-cuny-incidents-covered-amendment-article-1.2786352?utm_content=buffer7f9a1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw

  • smkngman3
    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      They should have done that a long time ago.

      • True, there’s only been assigned for the use of conservatives, since 1980…

  • all_hail_the_hypno_toad
  • smkngman3
  • Edwin

    Anyone looked in on ‘the kids’ lately/today?

    • Nope, but since I have them blocked, there’s nothing much to see. 😀

    • SmotPoker

      Yesterdays problems belong in yesterday.

      • Edwin

        That’s true, but I got a bit of spare time.

  • smkngman3

    “High School Football Players Take Knee for Anthem Across Country”

    High school football players across the US followed San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick’s lead and declined to stand for the national anthem Friday night and Saturday afternoon.

    http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/09/10/high-school-football-players-take-knee-anthem-across-country

    • Edwin

      Awesome. They rock!!

      • Nancy
        • Edwin

          He seems nice, little brainwashed zombie.

          Hiya, Nancy.

          • Nancy

            yup-nationalists usually are.

          • lindajoyous

            Hi Edwin!

          • Edwin

            Hi, Linda.

        • s k

          From your article-Alabama prep football announcer: You should be shot for not standing for national anthem.

          Are these morons even smart enough to dress themselves

          • Nancy

            and there is this…these people should be shot as well?

          • s k

            I would prefer to lock them up in a cage and display them in public with a sign that says…….. this is what happens when one threatens to shoot an America for exercising their constitutional rights

          • Nancy

            another good christian at it again:
            “The announcer was identified as Pastor Allen Joyner, of Sweet Home Baptist Church in McKenzie, according to Joyner’s relatives and friends, who also posted to Facebook and praised the statement.”

          • s k

            We are going to need a really big cage

          • Nancy

            yes, we are.

        • lindajoyous

          Hi Nancy! 🙂

          • Nancy

            hello Linda! nice to see you beat your disqus problem!

          • lindajoyous

            Thank you, good to see you! 🙂

  • Dosido3

    Trump supporters are embracing the deplorable label.
    https://twitter.com/hispanicstrump/status/774731266499325952

    • SmotPoker

      That’s because most of them don’t know what it means nor how to spell it in order to look it up in the dictionary….

  • s k

    Erased by False Victory: Obama Hasn’t Stopped DAPL: http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/37568-erased-by-false-victory-obama-hasn-t-stopped-dapl

    But Dakota Access, LLC probably will turn off its machines — for a (very) little while. They’ll wait for the media traction that’s been gained to dissipate, and for the #NoDAPL hashtag to get quieter. They’ll wait until the political moment is less fraught, and their opposition is less amped. And then they will get back to work — if we allow it.

    Here’s the real story: This fight has neither been won nor lost. Our people are rising and they are strong. But the illusion of victory is a dangerous thing. Some embrace it because they don’t know better, some because they need to. We all want happy endings. Hell, I long for them, and I get tired waiting. But if you raise a glass to Obama and declare this battle won, you are erasing a battle that isn’t over yet. And by erasing an ongoing struggle, you’re helping to build a pipeline.

  • SmotPoker

    The trouble with Tribbles ain’t shit, wait until they grow feet….

    • towerofbabel

      Don’t clone them. Deport them!

  • lindajoyous

    Testing to see if the reinstalling chrome worked so disqus doesn’t keep wanting me to sign in!

  • lindajoyous

    Good it worked!

  • smkngman3
  • smkngman3

    This is NOT new! In fact the NYDN has run this story before. Other media outlets never ran with this becauseHillary and Schumer were responsible for selling their Iraq War vote to get this 20 billion dollar aid and then allowed the Rich and Connected to pilfer from this fund!

    “EXCLUSIVE: Donald Trump’s claim he got $150G in post-9/11 state funds for small businesses because he helped people in need is unfounded, docs show”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/exclusive-trump-didn-post-9-11-funds-helping-people-article-1.2786879

  • smkngman3
    • s k

      Are you saying Amy Goodman has a arrest warrant for filming it?

      • smkngman3
        • s k

          WTF

          • Nancy

            evening
            isn’t it ever.

          • I don’t even have words for it Nancy, it’s unbelievable to me:/

            Hello my dear :^) Hope you’re having a good day.

          • Nancy

            you too dear one!

          • s k

            This country has lost it’s mind

        • Hey smokey if you find out who issued the warrant post that info if you will, because I have no problem giving them a call or dropping them an email telling them that they have crossed a line and that they need to be ashamed of themselves.

          • smkngman3

            Click the link on the tweet.

            This was just posted an hour ago.

            “An arrest warrant has been issued in North Dakota for Democracy Now! host and executive producer Amy Goodman. Goodman was charged with criminal trespassing, a misdemeanor offense. A team from Democracy Now! was in North Dakota last week to cover the Native American-led protests against the Dakota Access pipeline.”

        • All I can say is

  • SmotPoker

    Trump to the press – “I hate you, you’ve treated me unfairly but I’m not going to kill you….”

    How fucking reassuring. Fucking lunatic.

  • s k

    Wow, just Wow -these people are delusional

    How Should History Measure the Obama Administration’s Record on Transparency? http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/37555-how-should-history-measure-the-obama-administration-s-record-on-transparency

    On Wednesday, White House press secretary Josh Earnest sent The New York Times a letter asking journalists to give the Obama administration credit for government transparency, arguing that media columnist Jim Rutenberg did “did not acknowledge the important and unprecedented steps that the Obama administration has taken to fulfill the president’s promise to lead the most transparent White House in history” in his latest column.

    In his letter, Earnest asked: “If journalists don’t acknowledge steps that the Obama administration has taken to strengthen transparency, then who will?”

  • Nancy

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/obama-9-11-anniversary

    “On Eve Of 9/11 Anniversary, Obama Says Americans Can ‘Never Give In To Fear'”
    hahahahaha…
    Hillary-“vote for me or you will have Trump as president.”
    this whole election is only about fear!

    • s k

      This is from Hillary’s Deplorable speech:

      You know, I’ve been saying at events like this lately, I am all that stands between you and the apocalypse.

      • Nancy

        she is the fucking apocalypse.
        god…as if I don’t already hate that bitch enough for the damage and warmongering and fear she is creating/causing.
        it appears to be nowhere to reaching the bottom.

        • kreskin

          She’s been living inside that Washington / Pentagon bubble for so long that she is completely out of touch with reality . She’s been brainwashed , who does she get all of her advice and ideas from ? From people who’s careers DEPEND ON war and that Russian boogey man .

          She’s a big on American exceptionalism , rules don’t apply to us , we make them ! Conquer the world , baby , rule it !

          This woman is bad news , folks , she’s dangerous .

          • Nancy

            yes, and yes!

          • smkngman3

            “She’s been brainwashed ”

            She is what she chose to be!

          • kreskin

            Maybe true . Regardless , a brainwashing does take place when your in an echo chamber for decades , surround by people who are not the least bit objective . She is not living in the real world . .

          • smkngman3

            From Goldwater Girl to Bill to Walmart, she has plotted her path to power.

            Hillary has NO redeeming values!

          • kreskin

            She’s been all about power and personal gain from the very beginning , no doubt about that .

          • s k

            True

      • kreskin

        That bitch frightens me , she’s nuts .

        • s k

          They both are nuts, but Hillary knows how to use the power and no one will stop her, unlike Trump IMO.

          • Nancy

            that’s too true s k…she is by far the more dangerous of the two as far as I see it.

          • s k

            Look at all of the neocons that got us into Iraq, that now support her and the MIC that gives her millions

          • Nancy

            fear seems to be selling and they seem to be happy buying.

          • kreskin

            Paul Wolfowitz just gave her his stamp of approval , said he’s going to voter for her !

          • kreskin

            Bu bu but she didn’t know , she was lied to . ( shakes his head )

          • kreskin

            Far more .

          • kreskin

            Exactly .

    • cathyx

      How was your birthday, Nancy?

      • Nancy

        cathy! hey, it was wonderful thanks…
        how are you doing.

        • cathyx

          Great. My daughter came home today for a family function, and she actually talked to me, for like a long time too. I didn’t want to say anything to mess that up, so i just nodded and smiled a lot.

          • Nancy

            awe…so happy to hear that! they seem to grow up when they leave us or at least come to see how wonderful we can be!

            how long is she in town? is she enjoying college?

          • cathyx

            Just the weekend. she’s at a friends house now who leaves for college tomorrow.

          • Nancy

            nice…good for you guys.

          • 17

            That’s how me and Mrs. 17 have tolerated each other for so long. Her parents too.

          • Nancy

            lol…

          • cathyx

            Oh, you mean by smiling and nodding a lot? Yes, that works wonders.

          • I feel for you Cathyx I’ve been in the exact same position with my daughter don’t hug her too long or too tightly. Let her do most of the talking :^)

          • cathyx

            Thanks for the advice. She wouldn’t even let me touch her before she left, so i’m holding out hope that she at least lets me hug her goodbye when she goes back tomorrow.

          • Sorry I didn’t mean it to come off as advice:^) just empathy for that was what I had to do with my daughter.

          • Nancy

            it’s heartbreaking when they hit that stage. mine didn’t go through it that long but it just killed me when it was happening!

          • Mine went through a double dose, and a daddy’s girl on top of it.

          • Nancy

            oh that’s a tough one. we were always very close and hug/lovey, so I has really thrown for a loop when that happened.
            I am just happy to see the end of it and although it’s very difficult-there is some comfort in knowing that they all seem to go through that for a time.

          • Yeah I’m happy that most seem to outgrow that period, which thankfully included my own.

          • s k

            good for you

    • TPM’s politics have been corrupt for some time now. so such a headline doesn’t surprise me, nor does the fact that’s a reprint of an AP article.

      They did have a decent climate news sub-site though. Sadly that’s gone now that they are, for all practical purposes, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Medium (despite Medium’s marketing materials, that how it works), which is, IIRC, associated with the Clintons, via its owners.

  • kreskin
    • Nancy

      ouch, my brain hurts.

  • smkngman3

    ” 5 Corporations Now Dominate Our Privatized Intelligence Industry”

     This unaccountable oligarchy of spies controls the information that guides our military and civilian leaders.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/five-corporations-now-dominate-our-privatized-intelligence-industry/

    • The_Fixer

      This, along with most of the article, is disturbing:

      But it declined my request to interview Ronald Sanders, a Booz vice president who, as the ODNI’s “chief human capital officer,” presided over the office’s first inventory of contractor personnel in 2007.

      Yup, people, employees, are not even “resources”, but now “Capital.” We are another asset to be bought, sold, managed and treated like part of the corporate balance sheet.

      What completely slimy excuses for human beings.

      • smkngman3

        You forgot, used and disposed at will.

        • The_Fixer

          Oh, I didn’t forget. And no one else who reads that should, either. Everything these days has become about the pursuit of assets – money, goods, market position, political influence and now, “human capital.”

          If this shit doesn’t stop, or at least get controlled, it will be the death of us all. Literally, the death of us all.

          • Shohanna

            How do we know that isn’t their plan to begin with?! Maybe the Aliens are real and they are the ones in control?! /s

    • 17

      I have it on good authority that that’s a “conspiracy theory” and should be completely disregarded.

      • Edwin

        reaching for my tinfoil hat, to be safe

  • Nancy

    hope this hasn’t already been posted…amazing
    https://www.facebook.com/AishaOnAir/videos/694794033927977/

    • cathyx

      I did not have to refresh to see this. Woohoo.

      • Nancy

        nice!

      • s k

        your lucky, now I will refresh

    • longtime carpenter lurker

      Damn, I cant find the video I’m actually looking for, however, here is a 767 landing with no gear.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9WNnJprwzU

      Here is one coming in without front gear
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O8ItM_C_NY

      The one I was looking for however was earlier this year, I saw one beautifully brought in missing front gear, It was basically stopped before the nose touched down….

      Bonus, An Isreali F-15 pilot landed one with one wing missing after a training mishap in the early 80s

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M359poNjvVA

      • Nancy

        thanks lurker-these are so stressful to watch!

        • longtime carpenter lurker

          Indeed they are, The people in the plane were probably all kissing their asses goodbye if they were aware of the situation. The truck driver in yours is a complete madman however, I can think of about 500 ways that truck could/should have been pancaked..

          • Nancy

            I was amazed at how that one went down!

      • It’s likely much safer coming in with no gear, than with missing gear and the others stuck open. As long their fuels has been burned off, before they attempt it. And agree about the truck driver in the video above.

    • So… I though the entire thing was a little too slick, especially the witness interviews. Then they said “Nissan Truck”. Then I saw there was no Station ID on the screen. Which said to me: Not Real.

      Sadly, I was right. This is a commercial for Nissan Trucks.

      • Nancy

        good catch.
        hell of an ad!

        • Impressive. I wanted to believe. And it was SO close to being imperceptible as an ad.

  • smkngman3
    • kreskin

      When is the last time you heard an American politician say the word peace ?

      • smkngman3

        I hear it every time we invade another country!

        Our reason for invading is always to impose “Peace and Democracy”.

        • kreskin

          Democracy maybe , but peace ? Never.

          • The_Fixer

            Well, our special blend of Democracy, anyway. The approved kind, where the populace is bullshitted into giving consent to whatever the war engineers deem necessary.

          • kreskin

            They don’t even bother with the explanations anymore.

          • s k

            Like “Democracy” in Hong Kong where China picks the candidates, that’s what our oligarchs do now.

          • DriveBy

            And Freedom…. but yeah, never peace.

            There’s no money to be made in peace.

        • towerofbabel

          Every liberal value is now used as a trojan horse by the neoliberals to do the opposite. You want a Black president? Well here’s O’bomber. Want a woman president? We got your Hillary Clinton right here killing poor people. Want peace? Death is peaceful. This is the closest thing to evil I can think of.

      • Edwin

        They say it all the time. I think it means forcing other people to be subservient and to obey their masters (the Empire) based on the context I have heard it used.

        • kreskin

          When’s the last time you heard it ? Seriously .

          • Edwin

            I dunno. It seems to leak out of their mouths all the time. “Peacekeeping Missions” (which usually means carpet bombing) and shit like that.

  • SmotPoker
    • Not surprised, at all.

      • SmotPoker

        Always keep a watch on your wallet, and your children when those folks are in your proximity….

    • smkngman3

      There was an article the other day where a teenager was raped by her “Preacher” and the congregation attacked and blamed the girl.

      • They fucking wanted her to apologize to her rapists wife!

        • SmotPoker

          Pitiful, backwards fucks have no idea what they are missing out on with their objection to reality, and preference for fantasy in life. Sad.

      • SmotPoker

        That’s a cult behavior.

  • smkngman3
    • kreskin

      Oh , I don’t know , if she’s good enough for Sanders and a Warren …

      *s

  • SmotPoker

    LOL! My silly little pocket Wookie. I’ve noticed him when he jumps down from my chair he makes it a point to jump for his bed which is close to my chair. It’s like he’s playing his own little game of “lava” where he doesn’t wan’t his paws to touch the floor…

    • Shohanna

      My cats do that too, but then they add in, kicking, pawing, or tailing the “melted” green dragon off my table. They really hate that dragon. Granted it is slightly melted and unless you knew what it was prior you couldn’t guess what it is now. But on a regular basis, they jump from my table, to the other computer table, then to that one. Sliding in to the dragon in the process, you hear it go “plop” and they look at me expectantly and run. LOL

  • s k

    Dakota Access Pipeline Update: Jill Stein Wanted, Protesters Attacked, Construction Halted

    The Humanist Report

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FGiThxovdU

    • lindajoyous

      And Hillary scott free!

      • s k

        The bankers that fund the pipeline are major supporters of Hillary.

        • lindajoyous

          I know and it is sickening!

    • s k

      Mike will be back next week saying how wrong he was about Obama stopping the pipeline.

    • towerofbabel

      Mike seems a little too Bambi here. Obama is just buying time for Clinton. Don’t kid yourself buddy. The TPP is coming and it will not be possible to stop these people. This is one tiny example of what’s to come as they push through their pipelines, fracking sites and mines. They are going to rape the planet and if you get in the way you are roadkill.

      • s k

        He will wake up, if he hasn’t already

  • smkngman3
  • smkngman3
  • SmotPoker

    OK, everybody, I need you all to relax, and put your hands on the desk in front of you or up in the air where I can see them. I’m not pointing any fingers, or accusing anyone of theft, but my green Bic lighter seems to have gone missing, and this was the last place I had it when I was making a comment while partaking in a bowl. I’m sure you’ll have no problem with security performing a search of you, and your person.

    • The_Fixer

      LOL! Check the USB port on your computing device. Somebody tried to pull a fast one on you, but it didn’t work.

      I don’t know who that could be….

      • SmotPoker

        Edited the joke, it took me a minute to realize I could make it a tad bit funnier by posting it different languages….

        • The_Fixer

          Good work, no matter which language 🙂

    • lindajoyous
      • s k

        lol, thanks Linda

        • lindajoyous

          You’re very welcomed Sk!

      • SmotPoker

        Linda saves the day!

        OK, now who has weed?

        • The_Fixer

          Oh, did you lose that now, too?

          What are we gonna do with you…

        • lindajoyous

          Hi Smot, how are you? 🙂

          • SmotPoker

            If I were any better I’d be twins. How bout yourself?

  • SmotPoker

    Entertain me you fucks.

    • The_Fixer

      Must be a particularly good strain of Indica tonight, Smot?

      Ha! I think we are the ones getting the entertainment 🙂

      • SmotPoker

        Yes, oh wait, no it’s a Sativa dominate hybrid I do believe, and I’m not being stingy with it either, I’m toking as I please, but then again, I always do that too so just another night I guess…

        Deadhead OG is the strain.

        Treat yo’self….

    • s k
      • SmotPoker

        Really?

        You think it’s funny to send links to song videos to a deaf guy?

        You’re deplorable, simply deplorable.

        I tease, I’m not upset, but yeah, I’m deaf now so video shit doesn’t do a lot for me, lol….

        • s k

          Read the lyrics

          • SmotPoker

            I didn’t see any lyrics show up in it.

          • s k

            Whatever happened to the sun

            It seems to always come

            Back when we were young

            We’d sing and party all night long

            The season don’t ever come on time no more

            War paints over the years

            And anger fills our tears

            What happened to the sun

            But I know, I know, I know I’m not alone

            But I know, I know, I know I’m not alone

            Everytime I read the news

            I’m always more confused

            Tellin’ me to choose

            But there’s only lies to choose from

            And how many died today

            How many lost their homes or shot a gun

            Or a… Full lyrics on Google Play Music

        • s k

          I didn’t mean to offend you, I forgot that you were a drummer-sorry

          • SmotPoker

            You didn’t offend me at all. I’m just about impossible to offend. I’ve led a life of debauchery, and excess, filled with bad decisions at every turn. To be offended is to judge, and I’m not in any position to do that 99% of the time.

          • s k

            I was grew up on blues, r&b, rock & roll, jazz, spent my childhood on the streets of Chicago. I would rather lose my sight than my hearing. Check out these lyrics, all that I can say is he has many talented people with him.

            http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/michaelfrantispearhead/yellfire.html

          • SmotPoker

            At first going deaf really threw me for a loop. I was not prepared at all for such an event, especially coming on the heels of the death of my mother. As much as I might have wished she was there for me at that time, I’m also relieved that she was gone, as she would have freaked out a bit over it.

            As time has gone on, I’ve come to appreciate being deaf, and having the capability of tuning out the world simply by removing my hearing aid. Hell, I spend 99.9% of my time these days not using the hearing aid.

            Sure, it’s pretty much taken away the music that I love, but what can one do? I cannot change fate, I can rage against the unfairness of it all, or I can keep my feet moving forward, and share my stories. Luckily as a trained drummer, I can still read sheet music, and of course I can still count, so I could technically still play drums, but I feel it would lack the passion that was part of my music. It would have a paint by numbers feel to it. That make sense?

            As for deaf vs blind? I’ll take deaf as I can still watch my favorite movies, television shows, read, and drive an automobile, all options that would be denied to me if I had gone blind. Hearing aid allows me to be able to hear well enough to communicate although the Cochlear Implant has been a bust for me on the other ear.

          • Ann Watson

            I have very sensitive hearing, I use ear defenders wherever there is loud noise, or cover my ears, so I can understand what you say, this world can sometimes be a cacophony of sound, mostly man-made.
            There is a lot of ongoing research and experimentation into restoring hearing, it is only a matter of time until there will be a ‘cure’ for every type and degree of deafness, then you might need some ear defenders too.

    • Smoke a bowl first…

      https://youtu.be/9j6wLgiypeQ

      • SmotPoker

        Smoke a bowl first? Look who you’re talking to! I’m already 3 bowls in to this affair.

    • The_Fixer
      • SmotPoker

        Dafuq?

        Interesting in it’s own way. Dig the background dude with the hose nipple problem sitting silently, and not paying any attention to them at all as they did their medical procedure in a gym.

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      ok 😛

      • Hi Spiffy:^)

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          hi 🙂

          • How is your day going?

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            good. yours?

          • Busy today, but fun stuff.

    • How about some Cyriak?

      https://youtu.be/jX3iLfcMDCw

      • SmotPoker

        Was the cat actually meowing with each bounce as it appeared in the video?

        • The_Fixer

          There is some cheezy video-game style music accompanying it. Like the stuff you used to hear on old 1980s arcade games.

        • And yes, the cat was making a synth-tortured meow sound, when it looked like he was.

    • Edwin
  • Yeah, the arrest warrants were issued by Morton County North Dakota. Listen to this b******* at the sheriff’s news conference.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wY3tW0N8G3U

  • 17

    ..

    • Shoot! This is like the 23rd damn time!

      G’night buddy!

    • lindajoyous

      Goodnight 17!

    • Edwin

      good night

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      You just had to use it all up didn’t you.

  • Here’s the guy who had to have issued the arrest warrant.
    http://www.co.morton.nd.us/index.asp?SEC=03B5F35A-CF4C-4F5B-A4C1-CA31D278CCF9&Type=B_BASIC

    I kid you not on the official page for Morton County North Dakota they have on their site if you scroll down.

    Private security officers ambushed and assaulted by protesters.

    http://www.co.morton.nd.us

    • lindajoyous

      Hi Stephanie! Good to see you 🙂

      • Hey Linda, good to see you :^) How’s your living room coming along?

        • lindajoyous

          Real good, I like it! My daughter said it is to bright and I need new curtains and I said no I don’t!

          http://i.imgur.com/Gszu0Le.jpg

          • Nice! Have you put your new furniture in it yet?

          • lindajoyous

            No they said it would be 2 weeks to be delivered. Need to mop the floor again and clean my room for the new bed! Thank you

          • Wonderful. I got a new bed a few months ago it’s been Heaven. I’m excited for you :^)

          • lindajoyous

            Thank you, I’m getting the bed that has drawers and nothing can get under the bed, including my dog lol! And I love the new stove and freezer, and having the laundry inside the house, instead of the garage! 🙂

          • Oh that’s great, I didn’t know about the freezer and stove. You’re going all out :^)

          • lindajoyous

            Yep, got another advance on my inheritance and should get the rest soon! 🙂

            But I miss my parents in the worst way!

          • {{{Hugs}}} I’m sorry sweetie. That’s gotta be hard.

          • lindajoyous

            Thanks Stephanie, my son who passed away in 2008, his birthday is the 14th of this month!

          • Oh I bet this is a very hard month for you.

            Will your daughter be with you on the 14th?

          • lindajoyous

            No she lives 150 miles south of me. My youngest son who is 12 years younger than her and 13 years younger then my son who passed away. He will probably be around. His girl friend is moving up her from Eugene Oregon where we used to live, my daughter lives there too, She just got a new boyfriend and told me she will be moving to California!

          • I hope that the children that are close will be around for you that day.

            Know that will be here as well, for you Linda. <3

          • lindajoyous

            Thank you for all your support Stephanie! It means a lot to me! 🙂

          • lindajoyous

            Thank you Stephanie, that is a beautiful song! 🙂

          • You’re welcome :^)and I like it too.

          • lindajoyous

            This is the song I was going to play cause you and spiffy always use the number 3 at the end and makes me think of this song! 🙂

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7Jvsbcxunc

          • That’s a blast from the past, love it.

          • lindajoyous

            Thanks, wow he looks so young there! Those were the good old day! 🙂

          • It had its problems, but it definitely was better than now. Before neoliberalism took root in the Democratic Party.

          • s k

            Are you out of the rain yet?

          • Yeah, do you have rain? Because if you do then I’ll probably get some more.

          • s k

            About an hour ago and the weather cat has been trying to bring friends-little mice
            live

          • Sweat. It’s that time of year where those little critters try to get in your warm house.

          • s k

            She is such a Tabbi hunter outside, but when she gets those little critters inside she just drops them, and goes out to look for some more.

          • My cat has brought in a snake and two frogs this summer, freaked the hell out of me

          • s k

            Today, she was wagging her tail at a mouse she brought in pretending she has hunting it- lol

            I catch them live and release them through the revolving door……..

          • My oldest cat who passed was not a good Mouser but my younger cat is.

            I don’t think she’s ever intentionally killed them. She’s definitely not eating them. She has accidentally killed them though :/

  • towerofbabel
    • I was about to be pissed at their transphobic use of Chelsea’s birth name, but I see this is before Chelsea announced she was a trans woman.

      • towerofbabel

        I dated the article above. That’s the original headline.

        • Yeah, no problem. Had to click through to see the date, but no huhu when I did.

  • smkngman3
    • s k

      That should be oil

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        Or blood.

        • Hi…Are you feeling better Daniel?

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Slightly. Still a little achy and coughing, hopefully it goes away soon.

            How are things?

          • lindajoyous

            Hi toad, sorry to hear you have been sick!

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            First time this year, bound to happen I suppose.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            *play pounces the toad*

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            I love seeing you, but ow. Hugs.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            *hugs back* <3 sorry.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Silly kitty 🙂

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            😉

          • lindajoyous

            I’ve been having sore throat and bad cough too! Hope you feel better soon!

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            I hope you improve as well.

          • lindajoyous

            Thanks!

          • I hope you feel better too hon.

          • lindajoyous

            Thank you Stephanie! 🙂

          • I hope you get better soon too. Things are good, not much going on just boring stuff.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            How can you be bored with us here :)?

          • Never bored when you’re around Spiffy.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            <3

          • <3

          • lindajoyous

            That reminds me, when I met my youngest son’s dad, he is from El Salvador, so his English was not so good at times.
            We went to a soccer game he was in and instead of asking me if I’m bored he asked me if I am boring! Lol 🙂

          • LOL, that would deserve a love pinch in our family.

          • lindajoyous

            Lol, not sure if I told you my son dad died and never met his dads family. Well they met, some are from California and some from El Salvador! My son is 33! 🙂

          • I do remember you mentioning that your son is thinking about going to El Salvador. To meet some additional family members.

        • s k

          They go hand in hand

  • towerofbabel

    Now for something good: High School Football Players Take Knee for Anthem Across Country

    http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/09/10/high-school-football-players-take-knee-anthem-across-country

    • That’s great.

    • s k

      Good for them

  • SmotPoker

    FYI, it looks like the BBCA is running a Star Trek mini marathon right now. Current episode is “Obsession”, then “Wolf In The Fold”, followed by the classic “The Trouble With Tribbles”

    Oooooh that may interfere with watching the rerun of the Comedy Central Rob Lowe roast which turned into an ambush on the Coultergeist. Thanks the stars for DVR tech.

    • “Wolf In The Fold” is my second favorite TOS/TNG episode. “Rejik! Rejik! Rejik! … Kill you all!”

      • Absolutely love

        where no man has gone before

        The menagerie

        The devil in the dark

        And that’s just season 1 of TOS.

        • Under “just love,” There’s a bunch, including those you listed. But for “absolute” favorites, across the two “TruTrek™” (Internal Label) series, it goes, for me:

          1. City at The Edge of Forever
          2. Wolf in the Fold
          3. The Measure of a Man.

          • Actually City at the Edge of Forever would be on my list as well.
            I thought it was in season 2. Wolf in the Fold was an excellent episode, though I’ll confess it actually scares me a little, all the screaming of Rejik. They really did a good job.

            A lot of episodes in the Next Generation but the one that jumps out to me the most is
            The Inner Light.

          • That really is a bloody fantastic episode. The only reason I place “Measure” above it is that I think “Measure” is both an outstanding Trek story and outstanding science fiction, whereas “Inner Light” is an outstanding Trek story, but more of a science-fantasy story, or maybe a moral tale. And, I’m all about the “hard-science science fiction.”

            Still Inner Light is an outstanding episode.

          • I like your taste sir:^)
            Inner-light was a moral tale for sure.
            Jean-Luc’s coming to grips with losing the life that he loved, paralleled the planets inhabitants acceptance of their loss.

            While dealing with their loss they exhibited deep contemplation, loving consideration of others, and dignity. It doesn’t get much more moral than that.

  • smkngman3

    “Reported Death Of TTIP – An Abhorrent Political Deception”

    Not so fast. You don’t think that the American’s are going to let the biggest trade deal in human history fail just because 97% of citizens reject it do you? No, France and Germany just need a plan. After Brexit, Britain can stay out of the firing line of the protest movement for a while.
    http://truepublica.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Screen-Shot-2016-09-08-at-07.35.34-300×212.png
    http://truepublica.org.uk/eu/reported-death-ttip-abhorrent-political-deception/

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      Hillary will provide backup!

      • smkngman3

        Feudalism in its new form.

  • smkngman3

    “Chelsea Clinton Says She’ll Stay With Family’s Foundation if Her Mother Is Elected”

    “For now, I’ll certainly stay on the board,” Chelsea Clinton said in an interview on ABC’s “The View.”

    The comments from the former first daughter come in the midst of news that her father, former President Bill Clinton, would step down from his position with the foundation if his wife is elected in November.

    Chelsea Clinton said that in the wake of her father’s absence, she wants to ensure that the work of the foundation and their employees are stewarded beyond the election.

    https://gma.yahoo.com/chelsea-clinton-says-shell-stay-familys-foundation-her-160234370–abc-news-topstories.html

    • Of course she will! All the better to facilitate corruption at the highest levels of government!

      • smkngman3

        But Bill and Hillary will be hands off!

        Late night emergency call for the “President”.

        Hey Ma, I have this incoming check from the Saudis. Do we send it to the Gates or wash it through Panama?

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      Does she have any skills that she could actually be hired somewhere else? Besides grifting and bullshit I mean.

  • SpiffyTheValiant

    I made this one.

  • smkngman3
    • If only ignorance was the problem.

    • s k

      thanks lol

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      I don’t think she recognizes the word.

      • s k

        Hillary knows power and money

      • smkngman3

        This is the Politicians version.

        “Telling The Truth IS for Dummies”.

  • smkngman3

    Maker of Deadly Drug 50 Times Stronger Than Heroin Spends $500K to Fight Legal Pot

    Insys Therapeutics, the company who makes insane profits from a drug behind one of the worst overdose epidemics in the nation’s history, fentanyl, has donated $500,000 to a campaign opposing marijuana legalization in the US state of Arizona.

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/deadly-drug-fentanyl-cannabis/

    • Yep. OTOH, the proposition has the support of a bunch of the plutocrats and other businesses, all who stand to make money and/or think that the proposition, as phrased, will keep further less restrictive legislation from being passed.

      It should be noted, the major pro-legalization groups here in AZ are suggesting a vote against the proposition, because of its restrictiveness:

      Arizona Pro-Marijuana Group AZFMR Halts 2016 Legalization Effort

      …AZFMR is launching a “vote no” campaign against its most-hated enemy: the well-funded Campaign to Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol in Arizona, which is backed by the national Marijuana Policy Project and local dispensaries.

      • Note, I WILL be voting for it, because unlike crapola like the ACA, I don’t think getting this law passed will actually prevent further liberalization the future. While something like the ACA locks in regulation, the current proposition, the CRMLA, will only act as a liberalizer of opinion, when people don’t see the world going to hell in a handbasket, with some form of legalization.

        • Ann Watson

          Get a foot in the door then kick it wide open.

  • smkngman3
    • s k

      Wow. let’s go

    • Dosido3

      Ok. That one really hurts. In a Truth Bomb way.

  • smkngman3
    • s k

      This is the choice our oligarchs have for US

      • Hillary Clinton and her ink are the cause. Trump is the symptom.

        • s k

          Exavtly

  • Latest polls show nominating Hillary was a huge mistake Jimmy Dore. I’m sure somebody has posted it but I’ll post it again.
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=msiBZwqLhzA

    • s k

      Like Obama, she is a nightmare!

    • lindajoyous

      I love Jimmy Dore!

      • He really is good. I am happy that I found both him and Lee camp.

        • lindajoyous

          There are a couple of others I like, One is The Sane Progressive and H. A, Goodman!

          • I’ll have to look into that. I also like the humanist report and secular talk.

          • lindajoyous

            I like the Humanist Report and will have to check out secular talk!

          • :^)

          • lindajoyous

            🙂

  • smkngman3
    • s k

      We are just like Hong Kong, the commies pick our candidates-DUH

      where you are you!

  • smkngman3
  • Annaleigh

    I went on a Twitter rant about #basketofdeplorables…I had to explain myself, even though I have already unintentionally started a fight between a high school friend of mine and Andy K on Facebook (my Twitter cross-posts to Facebook but I think I am going to unhook them).

    It’s a whole thread and not just one tweet so you may have to refresh and/or click the tweet to go to the thread: https://twitter.com/hopelessbkwrm/status/774835995292295169

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      Hugs Annaleigh.

      • Annaleigh

        *hugs back* Thanks Daniel. I hope you’re feeling better? <3

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          Still getting over things.

          Sorry this is still hounding you. It’s this whole damn election, can’t criticize the queen because it must mean you’re a Trump supporter and represent the worst that he does. Tribalist nonsense and binary thinking.

          • Annaleigh

            Thanks, and yeah, I am so sick of this election. I know we’re screwed either way so I just wish we could get the screwing over with already.

          • lindajoyous

            Hi Annaleigh, good to see you! 🙂

          • Nevin

            Hey Linda.

          • lindajoyous

            Double hi! Lol

          • Annaleigh

            Hi Linda, good to see you too!

          • lindajoyous

            🙂

          • Dosido3

            I was just checking over my calendar today. I paused a really long time when I saw 11/8. Like, Armageddon is coming or something.

          • lindajoyous

            Dang that is 2 days after my birthday! Hi Dos

          • Dosido3

            Hi!

          • Nevin

            In my neighborhood I’m surrounded by Trump or Clinton supporters. A neighbor and I stopped talking because he supporters Clinton.

          • I’ve convinced all my neighbors, whom I talk to, to go Green. There’s so many Stein 2016 signs around now, I feel like I don’t live in AZ.

          • Dosido3

            It’ll be interesting to see how many green votes the machines allow to stay green.

          • I’ll be voting on paper ballot, as will most everyone in the Phoenix area (a few of the rich-shit local districts have machines, but just a few and only the richest.)

            Doesn’t mean they won’t change them down at the SoS office, but that’s where it will have to be (I’ve worked elections locally since 1991, so I’m pretty familiar with the process.)

          • Dosido3

            Well stay safe. this year feelings will be running pretty high.

          • That makes me want to pull my hair. For the sad truth of it.

          • Nevin

            The only signs I have seen in my neighborhood have been for Trump or McCain. That’s very unusual considering I live in a very liberal neighborhood.

          • I thought you said you lived in the Central corridor?

          • Nevin

            I do. Off of Camelback and Central. We are a very liberal neighborhood. I have to assume that the liberals in my neighborhood are not enthused with Clinton.

          • Interesting. Never known anyone of a non-right bent to live in that area, it’s expensive as piss to buy a home there, but it’s not like I know everyone that lives there.

          • Nevin

            Not really. Home prices now start at about $300,000. We are also a very gay neighborhood. One of my neighbors was the first to marry in this state. You can go to 7th Ave and Camelback and find another pocket of gay and liberal neighborhood.

          • Well, let me explain why I think that’s pricey:

            I looked on homes.com for homes listed at $400k, between 7th street and 7th avenue and Camelback and Bethany Home. I didn’t find any at that exact price. I found a lot of Condos less than $400K but no homes less than $430, but, close enough.

            So, homes.com says that home will cost you, monthly: $2,223 for Mortgage; $151 for Insurance and $430 for taxes, for a total cost of $2804 a Month or $33648 a year. If you add as a conservative estimate, another $12000 a year for Utilities, Transportation and Food, that bring the amount of money you need, a year, to own that home to $45648/Year.

            If we’re generous and assume only 30% of your income goes into taxes and retirement, then that means you’d need a pre-tax income of $68472 dollars, to live in said house.

            The median income in the US, today, is $51,939/year, before taxes. Which means, that more than half of Americans could not afford a house in that neighborhood, at the best price I could find.

            That’s why, for me the neighborhood, strikes me as pricey. If it doesn’t strike you as pricey, that’s perfectly acceptable, just explaining my PoV.

          • Nevin

            Did you factor into the average homes in the country are states you would want to live in? Price is very relative. When I bought my home in 1999 it was the top end for the neighborhood. I look at a neighborhood where I bought a home for $60,000 and now homes are going for close to $300,000 and above for a 1300 square foot home on around 7000 sq foot lot.

          • I was looking at median income, vs cost to own. I don’t think any other factors are relative, as we were talking about a specific area, of a specific city, of a specific state, at the current date/time.

          • Annaleigh

            The only presidential sign I’ve seen here in town is a Bernie sign, which is still outside their house. Does my heart good. And for a short while there was graffiti at an underpass by my house that said “Fuck Trump.” Only Trump sign I have seen is at a house in Bakersfield that’s along the city bus route I take there to/from the college.

          • Nevin

            How the hell do you manage to live in Bakersfield? It is the epitome of conservative.

          • Annaleigh

            Oh I don’t live in Bakersfield, I just go to college there (I commute). I live in the blue dot of Kern County, Delano. We have a strong Democratic tradition because of the UFW. There are some conservative people here but not as many.

    • I’ve used that quote myself, “A pox on both their houses.” So adequately brings home how equally shity they are.

    • Nevin

      The basket of deplorables is our two party candidates.

      • Annaleigh

        True dat!

      • lindajoyous

        Hi Nevin, good to see you! 🙂

        • Nevin

          Hey Linda. I said hi down thread to you. ヅ

          • lindajoyous

            I see that lol! 🙂

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      lol

  • smkngman3

    Having PROOF of cop misconduct must be getting ex;pensive!

    “Indiana and Connecticut police departments shelving body cameras, citing increased data costs ”

    Police departments in at least two states that outfitted their officers with body cameras have now shelved them, blaming new laws requiring videos to be stored longer, which they say would significantly increase the cost.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/cops-shelving-body-cameras-citing-increased-data-costs-article-1.2787026

    • Dosido3

      Rrrrright……

    • LOL. Such transparently bullshit reasons.

    • smkngman3

      “Henrico officer shot into car 7 times, wounding female passenger”

      Greenway was alone, on duty, in uniform and wearing a body camera that was not recording when he shined a flashlight into a car stopped at an Exxon station on Nine Mile Road around 10:30 p.m. that December night, according to court records. The driver, Robert Davis, attempted to drive off, and Greenway fired his weapon several times.
      http://www.richmond.com/news/local/crime/article_0b9bf0f6-9ec5-5536-9081-927a2e889199.html

  • Annaleigh

    By the way, I wasn’t kidding about Hillary people congratulating themselves for stopping Sanders supporters. I saw a tweet from someone who didn’t have enough hands for all the back-patting they were doing that a diverse, multiracial coalition “stopped” Bernie and were now going to stop Trump. It was so, so offensive. But apparently us Sanders supporters were so awful we needed to be stopped.

    • Oh, I believed you. You only need to go to DKOS (Set your ad blockers to maximum!) to see dozens, maybe hundred of examples.

    • Dosido3

      Hilbots are the True Americans! We are not worthy…

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        We are all deplorable.

        • Edwin

          I am a filthy, disgusting, low-down, hateful, racismisogynist, the kind who is the cause of all of America’s woes. I am utterly deplorable.

          • Annaleigh

            Since my Twitter thread cross-posted to my Facebook, my tweet about Hillary supporters treating Bernie people like monsters they had to stop got a response from Andy saying that we’re not monsters, we’re just misguided and short-sighted…gosh that’s comforting and not condescending at all.

          • Edwin

            AndyK, the professional shill? (the guy is a dipshit)

          • Annaleigh

            Yes.

          • Edwin

            ugh

            to justify the AUMF he took me all the way back to Roman times. I didn’t buy a word he said (30 posts later)

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      Remember it’s apparently not racist to say a state is “too white.” – Hillary Clinton supporters.

      • Annaleigh

        Yup, and it’s not disingenious bullshit to lie and say that a very diverse Bernie supporting state is predominantly white! Sigh.

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          yup. Remember how Hawaii was suddenly white. When they say minorities, apparently they are only referring to black people.

  • Annaleigh

    Oh my good lord…TLC continues to live up to its nickname of Touching Little Children: http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/toby-willis-tlc-s-willis-family-arrested-child-rape-charge-n646301?cid=sm_tw

    Lesse, that now means the Honey Boo Boo family, the Duggars, the Willis family, and the Sister Wives/My Five Wives families all have ties to child rapists. (The Sister Wives/My Five Wives child rape scandal has stayed under the radar, as I’ve explained before. Most people don’t even know about it).

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      Gross.

      • Annaleigh

        Yup.

    • Dosido3

      Where/how do they find these low life’s?

      • Annaleigh

        Cultish religious sects and kiddie pageants, apparently.

        • Nevin

          I watched the Dateline episode of JonBenet Ramsey. It is kinda creepy parading your young daughter around in suggestive poses.

          • Annaleigh

            Yup. Supposedly the pageant culture tries to prevent abuse now because of JonBenet but they haven’t gotten any less creepier.

          • Nevin

            Until her death I didn’t know about these young pageants.

          • The whole thing is pedophilic in the extreme, to me. I get physically ill when I see what they do to those little girls.

          • Annaleigh

            Me too.

          • Dosido3

            Very sick.

        • Annaleigh

          For anyone who hasn’t heard me explain the Sister Wives/My Five Wives scandal, the Browns (Sister Wives family) belong to and the Williams (My Five Wives family) family used to belong to a fundamentalist Mormon sect called the Apostolic United Brethren. The Williams wives are all related to the Brown family, etc. Anyway, in 2014 the leader of the AUB died and he was succeeded by a man named Lynn Anderson Thompson. Trouble is he a child molester. He and his brothers, father, etc. are all notorious in the AUB for abusing women and children (Lynn’s father was so evil he did things like rape one of his wives in the living room with other wives there watching/listening, and his wives were so abused and beat down that shortly before the AUB leadership divorced Lynn’s father from his wives, Lynn’s mother actually propped up her own sickly daughter/sister wife because Lynn’s father wanted to rape her one last time before all his wives left him). And now he’s the AUB prophet. The AUB members who live in Montana are seriously considering splitting from the AUB because of it.

          Rosemary Williams from My Five Wives is Lynn Thompson’s daughter and she came forward to say he sexually abused her too. TLC quietly and conveniently cancelled My Five Wives around the time she came forward and there has been crickets coming from the Brown family. That’s the only reason it hasn’t blown up like the other TLC abuse scandals.

          • Annaleigh

            Whoops, I also forgot to add that later after the cancellation of My Five Wives, Rosemary’s sister wife/cousin Rhonda Williams revealed that she was sexually abused by a maternal uncle. Won’t go into the family tree too much because it’s complicated, but she goes back to the mess that’s the Lynn Thompson family too. Rhonda wasn’t abused by him, but her maternal grandmother Ila is the older half-sister of Lynn Thompson, and Ila was the one who was married to Lynn’s father (her step-father) and propped up by her own mother/sister-wife Mary (Mary is Rosemary’s grandmother and Rhonda’s great-grandmother) for Lynn’s father to rape for old time’s sake. Very dysfunctional. All I can say about that is thank god Brady Williams seems to actually care about his wives. If any of the Brown wives have been raped or sexually abused I doubt they could count on much compassion or caring from Kody Brown.

          • Bravo! Excellent information. I knew a little of it, but you’ve vastly improved my understanding!

          • Annaleigh

            Thanks! I can be a bit of an Aspie when it comes to the details about this, but it’s a whole other world of messed up and a lot of people who watch or have heard of Sister Wives and My Five Wives know nothing about it. There’s a murder scandal with the Sister Wives family too!

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        They go through Hillary and Bill’s little black book.

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          lol

          Though I wonder how true those allegations are of Billy’s child molestation charges.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            idk i just thought it was a funny joke. 🙂

    • The_Fixer

      Well, we’re talkin’ Hyper Christians here, what can you expect? It seems like every one of them has a diddlin’ problem. As in, they diddle whomever they think needs diddlin, legal, moral or not.

  • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

    Well can’t keep my eyes open any longer, good night all.

    • Nevin

      Nite Daniel.

    • Dosido3

      I’m right behind ya…nite!

    • lindajoyous

      Goodnight toad!

    • Annaleigh

      Nite nite Daniel. <3

    • G’night HT

  • Edwin

    Lotta the “right people” got rich.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXlCmRf9Aig

    • right white people…”

      There, fixed that for ya! 😉

  • Shaykayvah

    Happy Patriot Week! Fuck…

  • SmotPoker

    Meet one of The Deplorables. A real piece of work, simply charming. Crazy ass hate filled woman attacks Muslim women pushing their babies in strollers.

    All because her momma, and daddy brainwashed her as a child to believe in a different set of rules for their imaginary friend in the sky.

    Fuck religion, and fuck all those that believe in such horse shit. You’ve got a brain, the most wonderful computer ever seen by man, try using the fucking thing for something other than a hat rack.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/bigot-ripping-muslim-women-hijabs-hateful-attack-article-1.2785475

  • SmotPoker

    Who’s up for a tale from the vault about the adventures of young SmotPoker?

    • 17

      Was there a “young” SmotPoker?

      • SmotPoker

        You sound like my mother. I’ve been an old man since I was a young kid, so your inquiry does have some merit to it.

        Yes, believe it or not, I just didn’t appear out of nowhere a wise old man spewing forth wisdom. I actually had to learn a lot of this shit the hard way….

    • Ann Watson

      Tales of your yore?

      • SmotPoker

        Yep, all 100% true tales of yore.

        The one I have in mind involves a 17 year old me, a motel frequented by hookers that rents by the hour, a motorcycle gang, Detroit after dark, pimps, hookers, cannabis, and my young friend whom was 16 at the time.

        • Ann Watson

          We are all agog to learn of your exploits as a youth..

          • SmotPoker

            Alrighty then, I’ll whip it up real quick for you.

  • cathyx
    • 17

      It’s Sunday. I’ll tone it down a little. He’s a Putz.

      • cathyx

        Did he say that?

        • 17

          I said that.

  • cathyx

    On the anniversary of 9/11,
    AN “ENORMOUS OPPORTUNITY”: A SHORT, AWFUL 9/11 QUIZ
    https://theintercept.com/2015/09/11/today-14th-anniversary-enormous-opportunity/

    • cathyx

      I got all the questions right, by the way.

      • 17

        Of course.

  • 17

    ..

    • What’s important? I forgot.

      • 17

        Today’s the day you get to blame everything on “incompetence”. Never forget that.

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