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Colonel Qaddafi and the Great Man-made River.

Digital Privacy at the U.S Border: A New How-To Guide from EFF.

File Under: We knew that before it happened: The Republican Health Care Plan Screws Many To Help Very Few.

Wikileaks Vault 7 Release Paints A Grim Picture For Journalism.

Activists Describe Efforts To Stop Atlantic Sunrise Gas Pipeline In Pennsylvania.

Taibbi: Why the Russia Story Is a Minefield for Democrats and the Media.

Alaska’s Big Problem With Warmer Winters. Juneau has no plan, little money for erosion or thawing permafrost.

Bernie Sanders Has A Plan To Win Back Trump Voters (To the Democratic Party). Thanks, Mr. Sanders, but your sheepdogging is neither required not desired.

What Happens if You’re Too Poor to Pay Bail?

The FBI’s Secret Rules.

US spies still won’t tell Congress the number of Americans caught in dragnet. Because the answer is “All of Them.”

The Day Without Women Amongst the Liberal Elite.

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UnkaWillbur - May 26, 2017

Here' some links to nosh on, to start of your weekend. I hope everyone's weekend is great; me, myself, I'm planning on jumping out of a perfectly…

  • Your Song of the Day:

    https://youtu.be/fGXSRISBu3Y

  • 17
    • Shohanna

      Makes me want more cocoa! hehe Morning 17!

      • 17

        Mornin’ Sho 😉

        • Shohanna

          Morning 17! How are you today?

          • 17

            Still on this side of the dirt. Hope you have fun with your daughter today. 😉

  • kreskin

    Has anyone used the windows tool to do a clean install of windows 10 on a lap top ? Am tempted , but don’t know if I should risk it . Would I lose B & O play … for instance ? It’s a new HP . Was thinking the performance would probably improve ,

    • notisaidthepig

      Sorry, Kreskin. I have a MacBook Air. 🙁

      • kreskin

        Bad joke / fail . Too easily taken wrong . I deleted it .

      • kreskin

        Would have liked to have gone Apple / Mac but was a few pesos short , ran out of time . Do you like it ?

        • Apple’s laptops are not worth the money: They’re selling 5 year-old hardware at the price of new hardware!

          • kreskin

            Forget which product , uses the same low middle end processor as my HP , m3 – 6y30 .

          • Some years ago I was able to buy the parts to build a PC that was the hardware-level duplicate (only the network controller chipset was different) of Apple’s most powerful, $2800.00 computer, for the hefty sum of $850, including 24″ 1080p monitor.

          • kreskin

            You know your stuff apparently . Gotta go eat , supper time here ..

          • Just know to go to newegg, and what the pieces of a PC are. Easy to learn, and I’ll be happy to guide you, if you ever want in the future. Cheap enough, and modular enough too, that you don’t worry about “repairs”, you just swap out what’s busticated. 😀

    • I think installation of Windows 10 is always not recommended. It’s Russia: Grab a pirated copy of Windows 7 and you’ll get all the great performance you want! 😀

      • kreskin

        I have windows 10 , automatically updated itself as soon as I started up this lap top , but it’s got all the crap from HP on it , was not a clean install . It’s not bad, is doing the job , I should probably leave it alone .

        • The problem with Windows 10 is “What it’s supposed to be doing” is snitching on your every move, to Microsoft. There’s a reason it’s “free.”

          🙁

          • kreskin

            Figured as much .

          • IronPyrite_Reborn

            They know what we’re all doing anyway. What will they find out about me anyhow, that I like porn, the blues, and Bourbon?

          • They’ll find out whatever they need to, to coerce you into doing their bidding, when they need you to. That’s what this kind of society-wide, government surveillance is about. You didn’t really think it was finding out about “crimes”, did you?

            Now, the private corporations, they’ll get all the information they need to psychologically manipulate you into buying things you don’t need, at a great profit to said corporate entities.

          • EdgarHF

            Exactly

    • EdgarHF

      I am very sorry I downgraded to windows 10.

  • notisaidthepig

    Oink!

  • Your Cat of the Weekend:

    https://youtu.be/4ame0qd4how

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    Time to Use Uber’s Weapons — Against Uber

    Traditional taxicab medallion systems and Uber’s proprietary platform may compete with each other, but they are really just two different versions of the same thing: the use of state power to limit competition, guarantee profits, and force ordinary people to work for capitalists instead of themselves. It’s time to follow Uber’s example and use free software to destroy not only the antiquated taxi monopolies, but Uber’s as well.

    https://c4ss.org/content/48121

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    Carnivorous Sheep

    Republicans are liars and Democrats are cowards. And Americans, with their backs to even an imaginary wall, will always prefer a liar to a coward.

    http://www.courthousenews.com/carnivorous-sheep/

    • Sounds like a concise description of the Ruling Class parties’ little fairy-tale narrative.

  • 17

    Was Michael Hastings Targeted By The CIA? Wikileaks Reveals Agency’s Covert Carjacking Ability

    The untimely and violent death of award-winning journalist Michael Hastings sparked rumors for years that the CIA was somehow involved in the car crash that claimed his life. Now, Wikileaks’ “Vault 7” revelations have shown that the CIA has long had the ability to remotely hijack vehicles in order to conduct “undetectable assassinations.”

    http://www.mintpressnews.com/michael-hastings-targeted-cia-wikileaks-reveals-agencys-covert-carjacking-ability/225738/

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    The Perils of the New, Shiny George W. Bush

    The cuddly George W. Bush who paints pictures of dogs and Jay Leno is a war criminal. He doesn’t deserve an inch of rehabilitation.

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/03/george-bush-president-trump-iraq-war-katrina-torture/

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    Hillary Clinton’s connection to Russian banks exposed through Tony Podesta’s lobbying contracts

    This latest revelation connects Hillary’s campaign manager’s (John Podesta) brother, Tony Podesta, to Russia’s largest bank, lobbying to end the Obama administration’s economic sanctions against Russia.

    http://theduran.com/hillary-clintons-connection-to-russian-banks-exposed-through-tony-podesta/

    • kreskin

      The MSM will be all over this story , I’m sure . ( nice work , 17 )

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    Amnesty’s Abuse of Rights Advocacy

    Alleged human rights advocacy organisation, Amnesty International, has had several of its recent reports called into question regarding the very real possibility that its “advocacy” work is nothing more than
    politically-motivated attacks on nations targeted by its Western sponsors.

    http://journal-neo.org/2017/03/10/amnestys-abuse-of-rights-advocacy/

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    The real reason Republicans are ramming through a health care bill that no one wants

    …despite the political promises to end Obamacare, the story today is the story of the last six years Americans have spent waiting for the latter half of the Republican “repeal and replace” plan. The party
    doesn’t agree on a health care agenda because it simply doesn’t agree about whether the government has any role at all.

    What they do agree on, however, is the importance of passing tax cuts. And what this bill, ostensibly intended to improve health care, does above all is tee up massive tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans.

    https://qz.com/930194/replacing-obamacare-the-real-reason-donald-trump-and-paul-ryan-are-pushing-a-republican-health-care-bill-that-no-one-wants/

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    Dreams of ‘Winning’ Nuclear War on Russia

    Official Washington’s anti-Russian hysteria has distorted U.S. politics while also escalating risks of a nuclear war as U.S. war planners dream of “winning” a first-strike attack on Russia, reports Jonathan Marshall.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/03/10/dreams-of-winning-nuclear-war-on-russia/

  • 17

    Only the Israeli Dead Matter: Israel’s Failure at Investigating Its Bloody Wars

    At a glance, Israel appears a true democracy. Take a closer look, and that facade of democracy will soon dissipate, turning into something else entirely.

    https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2017/03/10/only-the-israeli-dead-matter-israels-failure-at-investigating-its-bloody-wars/

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    America in Turmoil: From Deep State Insurgency to Deep State Spying – WikiLeaks’ Vault 7

    Even those not following the latest evidence of the tyrannical noose tightening around our necks, know something has gone terribly wrong in America.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-in-turmoil-from-deep-state-insurgency-to-deep-state-spying-wikileaks-vault-7/5578783

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    ‘Great threat to global security’: Russia urges US to explain CIA hacking exposed by WikiLeaks

    Moscow has urged US intelligence services to provide a detailed and open response to WikiLeaks’ accusations of CIA hacking activities as #Vault7 constitutes a serious threat to international security, Foreign
    Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said.

    “We’d really like the security services in Washington to respond fully and openly to the released documents with specific facts, and if this information is confirmed then it poses a great threat to the world and international security,” Zakharova said at a briefing in the Russian capital.

    https://www.rt.com/news/380221-zakharova-russia-us-wikileaks-cia/

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  • Inside The “Investigation” To Get To The Bottom Of Russia’s Role In The Election“Even some Democrats on the Intelligence Committee now quietly admit, after several briefings and preliminary inquiries, they don’t expect to find evidence of active, informed collusion between the Trump campaign and known Russian intelligence operatives”

    • kreskin

      Nothing but a disgusting and pitiful charade . Thank goodness for Wikileaks .

  • EdgarHF

    Hello everyone. Been way too distracted here in Thailand to keep up with what is happening on the internet tubes. Another week left to go here. I barely know what is going on. On the news here there is a lot about the Wikileaks latest reveal. Is the MSM in the States playing the sounds of crickets on the subject?

    • By and large. The usual pro-forma coverage in the corporate media, then silence, as if 60 seconds twice in one week is sufficient coverage.

    • I hope your visit is going well.

      • EdgarHF

        Today’s agenda, a Thai woman I met a few days ago is going to take me into the mountains on her motor bike. I am really not looking forward to going home.

    • kreskin

      It’s been on the news here in Russia .

    • Shohanna
    • IronPyrite_Reborn

      Remember when the “left” used to like Wikileaks?

    • notisaidthepig

      Glad you are unplugging for a bit. That’s never a bad idea. Wish I could answer your question but I have no idea. I don’t watch the local news and I’m a bit of a hermit, truth be told. Oink!

    • Edwin

      Glad you’re having a good time.

      Wikileaks released a bunch of CIA secrets and now they are in damage control mode.

    • Shohanna

      ROFLMAO! Ozzy Man is hilarious!!

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  • Shohanna

    Good MORNING!! **wave** Yes I am awake before the early afternoon!! 😀 I am energetic with bunny power. SPRING is in the air and it’s got it’s hooks in me!! It might be 33 degrees outside in Sunny KY. But it’s SPRING for me. OFF to help my daughter finish installing the Garbage disposal and her new Faucet. Will be out most of the day!

    Have FUN and don’t do anything I wouldn’t do!! LOL **wave**

    • notisaidthepig

      Oink!

  • notisaidthepig

    Taibbi article was great. He’s nailed why the Russia story is so tricky and dangerous for the media. And, as usual, there seems to be nothing there. I WANT this story to backfire on the media. I think it’s already doing that actually.

    • 17

      Great?

      Moreover, the case that the Russians hacked the Democratic National Committee now appears fairly solid. Even Donald Trump thinks so. This of course makes it harder to dismiss stories like the one in which former Trump adviser Roger Stone appeared to know that Wikileaks was about to release the hacked emails of Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman John Podesta.

      • kreskin

        And this information came from where ?

      • EdgarHF

        I pretty much shook my head when I read that BS.

    • Edwin

      I dislike and distrust the media and the people spreading this Russia nonsense. How’s that for backfiring?

    • kreskin

      I think so too . Those who insist on carrying on with the charade are destroying what’s left of their credibility . Thank goodness for WIKILEAKS .

    • EdgarHF

      Actually I was disappointed with Tabbi for pretty much the same reason 17 quoted in his reply.

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    The Common Sense of Socialism

    What can the Canadian experience teach us about building a mass working-class party in the US?

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/03/canada-new-democratic-labor-party-ccf/

  • 17

    A Flawed UN Investigation on Syria

    U.N. investigators increasingly make their conclusions fall in line with Western propaganda, especially on the war in Syria, as occurred in a distorted report about last year’s attack on an aid convoy, explains Gareth Porter.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/03/11/a-flawed-un-investigation-on-syria/

  • 17

    ‘Caste legal system: In US you only get as much justice as you can afford’

    Racism and class prejudice permeate every step of the US criminal justice system, says Paul Wright, executive director of Human Rights Defense Center, adding that there’s no real intention among the ruling
    power to overcome the disparity.

    https://www.rt.com/op-edge/380320-wrongfully-convicted-black-crime-justice/

  • IronPyrite_Reborn
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  • kreskin

    If you click on the little photos in these links you can see where I call home these days . Maybe some of you are interested . There’s one photo of the new bridge , it was taken on the bank right next to our apartment building , the bridge is off to the left . The view I have is much better , the same scene but from eleven stories up . The old bridge is off to my right .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulyanovsk_Oblast

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulyanovsk

    • 17

      Very cool. Thanks.

    • Excellent! Much appreciated!

    • EdgarHF

      Cool

    • Edwin

      Cool. Thx. I love armchair travelling. (I go a lot of places.)

  • “ENOUGH with the Democratic Party doesn’t ‘get it’. They TOTALLY get it, they have different agenda then you. I feel a rant coming on….”

    https://www.facebook.com/saneprogressive/videos/1418304058220072/

    • oodaloop

      “…we just had an entirely fraudulent Democratic primary….”

      I’ve been wondering about this for months: Is it just a matter of time before the DNC faces a class action lawsuit on behalf of the Bernie donors? And will it likely be timed to hit the courts (and the corporate media) just in time for either the 2018 mid-terms or the 2020 election?

      “This has been a bit of a rant.” Understatement of the month thus far! 🙂

      • Shohanna

        I didn’t think about that. I am not sure how much I sent to Bernie but I know it wasn’t just 27$, it was a hell of a lot more then that. I put off going out to eat, and going to the movies and taking the kids out. For like 6 months! Just so I could donate every month to Bernie….

        Law suit? I never thought of it that way.

  • 17

    VIDEO: Cop Pulls Gun on Crowd While Beating an Unarmed Mentally Ill Man

    And as usual, not one of these horrified onlookers thought to draw a weapon of his own and blow this pig’s brains out. What a waste of a good witness pool.

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-brutality-vallejo-video-mentally-ill/

    • I really can’t upvote this, though I appreciate the post. 🙁

      • 17

        I know why. Just my opinion.

        • Because It’s such a disgusting act? That’s why. Not the commentary, which I can at least sympathize with.

          • 17

            Oh. Understood.

  • 17

    US ambassador to Israel: ‘Great advantage’ to Netanyahu

    “This appointment should explode any remaining doubts among Palestinians and the international community that the US can be any kind of honest broker,” Nur Arafeh, an analyst with Al-Shabaka, a Palestinian think-tank, told Al Jazeera.

    She added: “It confirms that the Americans have no positive role to play in the struggle for self-determination or rights for the Palestinian people.”

    http://www.jonathan-cook.net/2017-03-12/us-ambassador-israel-netanyahu/

  • oodaloop

    Two NYU professors, who self-identify as liberal, postulate that Trump’s aggressive debate performance would never be tolerated if done by a woman. They staged an experiment by re-enacting the debate with a male and female actor in the reverse roles. They are surprised to find that the male “Hillary” was unlikable and unpersuasive, and that the female “Trump” was convincing and admired for her simple, focused message.

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/14203/what-if-trump-and-hillary-swapped-genders-james-barrett (Hat tip to Naked Capitalism’s “Links” article for 12 March

    Two quotes from the article:

    1. The overall experience for many Hillary voters was both “bewildering and instructive.”
    2. “People across the board were surprised that their expectations about what they were going to experience were upended,” said Salvatore.

    Edit: Here’s a link to the YouTube video clip (2:10 minutes sample) from the debate that is embedded with the article: https://youtu.be/9yC7-JsR2Fk

    Top comment at the Daily Wire by Dan Braun • 5 days ago:

    And then the liberals realized, “THEY” were the ones with a gender bias all along. Written and Directed by M. Night Shyamalan (186 likes as of 12 March, ~3:50 pm)

    • notisaidthepig

      Oh, that comment is a winner. Oink!

      • oodaloop

        Can’t wait to see the movie in 3D starring Haley Joe Osment and Bruce Willis. 😉

        • notisaidthepig

          LOL!

          • oodaloop

            My other favorite comment of the day is from Jane at NakedCapitalism:

            Jane March 12, 2017 at 9:23 am
            Re: The Dude Bros piece

            There is no left left in the Left and there hasn’t been for a long time.

            http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/03/links-31217.html

          • notisaidthepig

            I was reading something saying that the Left is dying and I just thought to myself, “Dying? It’s already dead.”

          • oodaloop

            Too true, and painfully so. Crucified on a cross of gold, corporate bonds, tech stocks and Wall Street pipe dreams.

            I don’t know where any true progressive movement goes from here. The deck is stacked so deeply against third parties that it will be daunting for a progressive party to reach critical mass. And any effort to change the DNC from the inside will be a virtual suicide mission.

          • notisaidthepig

            I just laugh to myself. There is NO reforming the Dims. They won’t allow it and it won’t work. Attempts are futile. I will stick with the Greens for now. Justice Dims are a joke to me. Sorry but they are.

          • oodaloop

            Same here. Done with the Dems.

          • 17

            I can’t wait to hear all the reasons I should bother getting out of bed on Election Day 2018.

          • notisaidthepig

            Just like you, the Dims won’t bother. They don’t mind low voter turn out. That way they can lose.

          • kreskin

            Yep .

    • IronPyrite_Reborn

      “Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time”

      [Harry S Truman (American 33rd President of the United States, 1884-1972)]

  • 17

    How Come the CIA is World’s Hackfest Central Now

    Once Wikileaks released thousands of documents uncovering the extensive scope of the US CIA’s hacking,
    including a wide range of programs and backdoors that allow the wiretapping of smartphones, personal computers and even smart TVs, the whole world has once again had the chance to learn that it’s not the
    mysterious “Russian hackers” that pose the greatest threat to the international security, but rather the CIA itself. The tale of “Russian hackers”, extensively used by the CIA and closely affiliated agencies in their propaganda war was used to whitewash American intelligence agencies who have established total surveillance over their own politicians and those governing foreign states.

    http://journal-neo.org/2017/03/12/how-come-the-cia-is-worlds-hackfest-central-now/

    • notisaidthepig

      And that whole “false flag” bit. How can anything be trusted? It can’t.

    • kreskin

      hear hear !

  • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

    The US Department of Homeland Security used software to scan social media accounts of people visiting America, but it didn’t work properly.

    That’s the conclusion of a study by the department’s inspector general. In a heavily redacted report [PDF] that surfaced this week, the watchdog revealed that in December 2015, US Citizenship and Immigration Services ran a pilot program to check social media streams both manually and automatically for any signs of wrongdoing.

    The tests were repeated in April and August 2016 using different software tools to rifle through online profiles for troublemakers. The exact software programs used were not named.

    “In reviewing the pilot, USCIS concluded that the tool was not a viable option for automated social media screening and that manual review was more effective at identifying accounts,” the report states.

    “USCIS based its conclusion on the tool’s low ‘match confidence.’ Because the resulting accounts identified by the tool did not always match up with the applicants, officers had to manually check the results. However, USCIS did not establish match benchmarks for the tool, so it does not know what level of match confidence would signify success or failure.”

    That poses a significant problem for the DHS – one that’s common to many mass data-slurping programs. If fleshy humans are the only way to check the information, they are going to be facing an enormous volume of data and may either miss key clues or draw the wrong conclusions.

    Nevertheless, the DHS isn’t giving up on the scheme yet. It has identified 275 software tools that could be used in the scanning, and it restarted the testing program in January 2017, presumably working on the principle that there’s no problem that can’t be overcome if you throw enough money at it.

    ….

    All this does rather throw a spanner in the works for the social media scanning idea politicians are itching for. Under President Obama, the government considered asking people to voluntarily submit social media profiles, but since the election of President Trump the scheme may become mandatory and more invasive.
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/10/autoscanning_us_visitors_social_media_doesnt_work/

    I’m sure Obama was being responsible though so it wasn’t as bad. And this is how the surveillance state gets its power.

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    An Accidental Journalist and His Historic Crowd-Sourced Investigation

    In what has ostensibly become the largest crowd-sourced investigation in history, accidental journalist George Webb is leading the charge in an ongoing project that ties together the people, places and events of
    endemic corruption across federal, state and local agencies in his 4-month-old YouTube investigative series. Now boasting more than 22K Subscribers with an estimated 2M views, the series is perfectly illustrative of the shifting paradigm in modern day news coverage. And while citizen journalism certainly isn’t a new
    phenomenon, never before have individuals had a platform with such expansive reach whereby their work can be shared, vetted and further developed in real time. Almost as important is that these individuals who were once defamed, harassed and isolated into silence now have vast online communities to support them, validate and refine their work, and provide a venue for exposing the vast penalties harshly visited upon those who dare defy the Establishment by speaking out.

    http://www.newslogue.com/debate/390/PatriciaNegron

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    The inventor of the web, Tim Berners-Lee, outlines its three biggest threats

    The World Wide Web turned 28 today. But rather than celebrate, its inventor, Tim Berners-Lee, used the occasion to lay out what he sees as its greatest challenges.

    Specifically, Berners-Lee points to three threats: the loss of control of personal data, the spread of misinformation, and lack of transparency in political advertising. He describes them as “three new trends” though they’ve each been around in some form for some time. Clearly, though, they’ve taken on a greater urgency for Berners-Lee and many others in the wake of the US presidential election that was an exhausting swirl of fake news, and ended in a result few saw coming.

    https://qz.com/930746/tim-berners-lee-says-privacy-fake-news-and-political-advertising-are-the-webs-biggest-threats/

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    Obama’s Ukrainian Coup Caused 2.5 Million Ukrainian Refugees into Russia

    On Tuesday, March 7th, Russia’s top parliamentarian dealing with the Ukrainian refugee influx into Russia — dealing, that is, with the people who have fled Ukraine as a result of U.S. President Barack Obama’s 2014 coup overthrowing Ukraine’s democratically elected President Viktor Yanukovych — presented the first-ever comprehensive number of asylum-applicants from Ukraine who have received asylum there after that February 2014 coup. The Russian government had never before publicly provided a number, but does have an established system of processing refugees, including assignment of official refugee status, which «allows the recipient various social benefits, including unemployment compensation» and so each Ukrainian refugee has a file with the government.

    http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2017/03/12/obama-ukrainian-coup-caused-millions-ukrainian-refugees-into-russia.html

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    Oh, That Traitorous WikiTrump

    Nothing so trivial as the technical proof we’re all being spied upon can be allowed to threaten or add nuance to established narrative

    http://www.4thmedia.org/2017/03/oh-that-traitorous-wikitrump/

    • kreskin

      The truth is irrelevant as far as the neocon / neoliberal media is concerned . Same with our politicians . We have become what we once hated .

  • all_hail_the_hypno_toad
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  • Edwin
    • IronPyrite_Reborn

      Watching Chanty Binx (aka: “Big Red”) never grows old.

    • MRAs are the worst kind of authoritarian shitheads.

      • Edwin

        It looks to me like they all had fun. ^_^

        • MRAs are the worst kind of authoritarian shitheads. They’d be natural allies of the Clintons, if the Clintons didn’t have a “D” by their names. And being True Believers in teh D.C. narrative is just the start of their vileness. They’re just another bunch of tools the plutocrats use to oppress the rest of us.

          They don’t wear brown shirts and jackboots, but they’re just as effective at sowing the fear, chaos and dissension that the Oligarch’s find so useful.

          • Edwin

            But those feminists are real snuggle-bunnies. ^_^ I posted it because the red head looks like tons of fun. Not focused on the discussion, focused on the *action.

            Are all MRAs authoritarian shitheads, or is that a generalization?

          • Dude… click, read, Understand

            “To support this overtly conspiratorial view, the crankery of various fringe radical feminist cliques (such as the TERFs) are nutpicked and presented both as “what your next door feminist actually believes” and as a necessary end goal to the entire project of feminism.”

            Rational Wiki

            If you still find MRAs appealing after reading about them, then we have nothing to discuss on the subject.

          • Edwin

            Who said anything about supporting MRAs. You did, not me.

            As for nutpicking, it goes out to all the various people who took it into their own hands to label me a misogynist for not supporting Clinton. What goes around comes around.

          • Edwin

            So, are you saying, every single MRA is an authoritarian shithead and they are all a bunch of tools the plutocrats use to oppress the rest of us.

            But feminists are not, not a single one. Feminists had nothing to do with the Clinton campaign? Feminists have no role to play in the Democratic party? Feminists and feminism are not used as tools of the plutocrats.

            Feminists are all good and nice and pure, except for one or two fringe characters who are “nutpicked”. Is that what you’re trying to tell me?

            Seriously, Unka. It appears you think I am a friggin’ moron. My name is Edwin, not dude, and there is no need to bold your outrage or explain to me how or what I should think. Nor to put words in my mouth to imply I said things I did not.

          • IronPyrite_Reborn

            Third Wave Feminism is about ambulance chasing and perpetual victim hood. Its alliance with Islam is creepy and nonsensical.

            The MRAs are a natural outgrowth of it, especially in Canada.

          • Edwin

            I have just finished watching this series. It’s well done!!

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua8T4nSTCWA&list=PLM9L2W5aOI_1TUcyIs9lJxTlCllkQer7d

          • IronPyrite_Reborn

            MRAs are the worst kind of authoritarian shitheads.

            As compared to what?

            (and NO, I am not an MRA and I don’t find them appealing)

          • Take your pick. Red-Baiters, Pro-Lifers, “Voucher” proponents, and on, and on, and on… The Oligarchs are constantly sprouting new ones, to further their aims.

            And let’s not mince words, those aims amount to the destruction of the political and economic gains of the poor and middle class, since the start of the enlightenment.

          • IronPyrite_Reborn

            As a person (and I am paraphrasing here) much wiser than myself said, “If I could hire a woman, and pay her less for doing the same job as a man…I would never hire another man for as long as I lived.”

            (in western cultures)

            What rights do men have, that women do not?

            Women are the only “oppressed class”:

            That is better educated than their oppressor
            Has a longer life expectancy than their oppressor
            Controls more wealth than their oppressor
            Receives reduced jail sentences for the same crimes as their oppressor
            Does not have to sign up (under threat) for selective service – unlike their oppressor
            Prevails in the overwhelming majority of alimony and child custody cases – unlike their oppressor

            (The facts don’t fit the narrative.)

    • notisaidthepig

      UGH.

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