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LL“Lead poisoning in the US: ‘A silent epidemic‘” Why children in the US are still being poisoned by lead every year.

Puerto Rico needs budgetary help, that’s for sure.  But, when Obama sicks anti-government, anti-SSI, AEI “scholar” Andrew Biggs on Puerto Rico, you know there’s nothing but misery and failure ahead.

Counterpunch has a great article on the Orwellian absurdity of appointing the “Bronze Star Butcher,” Bob Kerrey to head the “Fulbright University of Vietnam.”

Meanwhile, at The Spectator, Freddy Gray ponders how precarious Hillary Clinton’s chances of winning really are, how remarkable Clinton’s ability to make people dislike her is, and how we could easily get a Donald Trump presidency.

In other Clinton news, realignment rears it’s ugly head, again, as Hillary claims George Bush’s mantle as the chief proponent of Regime Change.

The Zika virus continues to plague Singapore, the only active transmission hub for the virus, in Asia.

Climate change provides us with another reminder of our immanent extinction, as the Inuit are now being forced to embed sensors in what has become a dangerously thin ice-pack.

And, finally, Samsung is being forced to recall its newest “smart” phone because they contain such shoddily built batteries, that they are exploding.

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  • cathyx

    First

    • Edwin

      woo hoo

      • Nancy

        she would have loved the crown competition!

        • Edwin

          Folks might wanna scoot over there today. Very close to 1,000 after only 22 days.

          • Nancy

            oh that would be too funny…I think I can still post. I would have hardly any competition!

  • cathyx

    And i beat you and you and you and you and you too.

    • Nancy

      much as you didn’t like the whole crown thing-it was all about being the first!

      • cathyx

        That’s right Nancy. 😉

  • Edwin
  • Nancy

    morning! happy Friday!

    • Edwin

      Good morning. Only 18 minutes of Friday left for me.

      • Nancy

        that’s right-how was it? when do you start work again? or have you already?

        • Edwin

          I haven’t been working. I went to India and then came back here and I have been a house-bum. Gotta do the job thing this fall.

          • Nancy

            nice-I remember you went away. when does school start back up for the fall?

          • Edwin

            It stared already. I used to always get private high school gigs. Then the school board took over all school in Seoul (public and private) and I taught high school for them, which was OK. Then they phased out the high school programme so I left and went to India and a few other countries, big 6-month trip. The next year I got hired on with the school board again for middle school and I hated the school. After the year finished I left and went back to India again. I contacted the school board again (they hire every year) but they said I was too experienced and too expensive as they had budget cuts.

            So here I am, in limbo.

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      hai 🙂

    • MsPythia

      Good Morning Nancy! 😀

  • 17

    ..

  • 17

    Deputy Involved in Natasha McKenna Tasing Death Kills Again

    Fairfax County has taken its status as a sanctuary county for killer cops to the next level. One of the six sheriff’s deputies cleared in the brutal tasing death of Natasha McKenna has killed a second person with mental illness.

    http://www.copblock.org/165388/deputy-involved-in-natasha-mckenna-tasing-death-kills-again/

    • Dosido3

      JFC. The cops are so emboldened now. Execute citizens at will.

    • MsPythia

      Horrific.

  • 17

    Even the “Tyrannical, Communist Dictatorship” of China Agrees Citizens Should Film the Police

    China is apparently getting ready to overtake the United States in yet another measure of freedom for its citizens. Following a well publicized and extremely controversial fatal case of police brutality within their own country last year, the Chinese federal government has announced new reforms that center around encouragement for citizens to film the police in order to deter them from committing abuses.

    http://www.copblock.org/165378/tyrannical-communist-dictatorship-china-agrees-citizens-should-film-the-police/

  • SmotPoker

    Sore losers?

    The losers in this election are the American people. No matter the outcome we lose.

    http://theconversation.com/election-legitimacy-at-risk-even-without-a-november-cyberattack-64418

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      hey smot 🙂

      • SmotPoker

        Greetings Spiffy.

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          <3

          • SmotPoker

            Once again thank you for the kind words on my writing, and the story I’ve been putting up. It’s the readers, and their feedback that make me want to do more.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            🙂 i’ll go check it out

          • SmotPoker

            Oops, I thought you already had done so, and left feedback. My apologies, it wasn’t meant to spark you into action.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Well i commented on your stories that were written at various points through various threads. but not on the actual thread itself. 🙂 but now you has a new comment.

    • MsPythia

      You are so right Smot!

  • SmotPoker

    Where the hell is my Internet wife at? I’m hungry, and ready for a sammich. Time to get up Sho…..

  • 17

    America’s Foreign Policy in Syria Summed Up in 3 Headlines

    US foreign policy regarding Syria publicly vacillates between seeking to defeat the Islamic State to achieving regime change in Damascus. Even at face value, these two objectives are contradictory, even paradoxical.

    In order to defeat armed extremism, order must be returned to a unified Syria under a government capable of maintaining it. The only government capable of doing this is being intentionally dismembered and undermined by Washington and its allies.

    http://anotherdayintheempire.com/2016/09/02/americas-foreign-policy-syria-summed-3-headlines/

  • 17

    ..

    • Dosido3

      Exactly. Why is our system of Rule of Law so broken? We are now ruled by the 1%.

      • RTIII

        more like the 0.001% but yeah, we certainly don’t rule ourselves.

  • 17

    Israel’s plan to retool occupation includes color-coding ‘good’ and ‘bad’ Palestinians

    Launched this month, Avigdor Lieberman’s plan for the Palestinians – retooling Israel’s occupation – received less attention than it should. It includes, the defense ministry producing a map of the West Bank marking in green and red the areas where, respectively, “good” and “bad” Palestinians live. Collective punishment will be stepped up in towns and villages in red areas, while green areas will reap economic rewards.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2016/08/occupation-includes-palestinians/

  • SpiffyTheValiant

    jill is on forty states and kentucky is decided today

    • MsPythia

      Yay! Mornin’ Spiffkins! <3

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        <3 morning 🙂

  • 17

    How Clinton And US Government Benefit When New York Times Attacks WikiLeaks

    To use the words of Times reporters, whether by conviction, convenience, or coincidence, their attacks on Wikileaks dovetail with the interests of the Clinton campaign.

    https://shadowproof.com/2016/09/01/clinton-us-government-benefit-new-york-times-attacks-wikileaks/

    • MsPythia

      Good article! Thanks for posting.

  • Edwin

    good night

    • MsPythia

      Good Night Edwin! <3

    • 17

      Good night, brother man.

  • MsPythia

    Good Morning you lovely people!

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrVg9qwVYAAhfoC.jpg

    • 17

      Mornin Ma’am 😉

    • RTIII

      Morning Love!

      … I DO note that it’s a THREE STORY HOUSE, of course! … I only wish that it was metaphorically correct, that she’s actually having a disaster she won’t recover from!

      • MsPythia

        Hahaha — as the flood waters show, there is “more to come!”

  • 17

    Putin to Hillary: Are you sure you want to debate me? If so, get ready to be squashed.

    Hillary really should have left Vladimir Putin alone. She has recently shot herself in the toes by saying:

    “When Vladimir Putin, of all people, criticized American exceptionalism — my opponent agreed with him — saying, and I quote, ‘if you’re in Russia, you don’t want to hear that America is exceptional. Well maybe you don’t want to hear it, but that doesn’t mean it’s not true.”

    Putin must have said, “The Lord hath delivered her into my hands. There’s gonna be roast chicken for dinner tonight.” True, America is “indispensable” and exceptional—but exceptional in spreading perpetual
    wars virtually all over the world. In fact, American officials have a history of overthrowing and destabilizing foreign governments that they do not like.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/02/putin-to-hillary-are-you-sure-you-want-to-debate-me-if-so-get-ready-to-get-squashed/

  • 17

    Israel’s Abnormal ‘Normal’ with its Neighbors

    Israel often acts as if a simmering state of war with its Muslim neighbors is the only possible future, while occasionally playing off one nation against another, a “normal” that is not normal, says ex-CIA analyst Paul R. Pillar

    https://consortiumnews.com/2016/09/02/israels-abnormal-normal-with-its-neighbors/

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      Israel’s government is that middle schooler that beat the shit out of some first grader. Then that kid’s big high school brother showed up and was ready to return the favor. But Israel ran off to the principle (U.S.) like a bitch for protection.

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      Note I specify the government. There are likely Isarelis that hate Bibi as much as we hated Bush II.

      • MsPythia

        There are indeed.

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          yup

      • 17

        I don’t blame the people of Israel any more or less than I blame the people of America.

        • MsPythia

          It’s the Likudists who suck.

  • SpiffyTheValiant

    That’s blasphemy. A pro hillary ad before a youtube video with a song called miracle happen?

    • MsPythia

      She’s got lots of money to pay for her propaganda.

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        I see more Hillary ads on youtube than on the tv. The bitch must have someone on her team who realizes more people will see them on youtube than on tv.

        • MsPythia

          They think it will help her with the younger voters, but she’s already lost most of them.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            She doesn’t know us well.

            1) Most younger voters are less lazy than me and probably have an ad block thingiermerbobber.

            2) Most that don’t, will hit skip after five seconds.

            3) On the annoying as fuck ads where this is no skip, you have just cockblocked me from whatever I wanted to watch in the first place, this is not going to make me more likely to vote for you. And that would be assuming that I didn’t already hate her guts. Which I do.

  • 17

    RT’s under attack again today.

    • MsPythia

      I was having trouble with some of the articles yesterday, so I’m not surprised to hear that.

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      Okay. We are ready.

      https://i.imgflip.com/j0cqy.jpg

      • SmotPoker

        The Ferret Battalion is doing their war dance, getting ready for action. The little fella featured here looks just like one of my old ferrets that died many moons ago. RIP Osgood, you were truly a beautiful creature that brought joy to my house, and heart.

        https://youtu.be/QflGDRE_rOs?t=29

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          Yeah we have ferrets. We wins.

          • SmotPoker

            At one time I had three of them for pets. We loved having them around, the cats were pretty spooked by them, but they were cool pets to have.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            lol 🙂

          • 17

            Stand down, Corporal. It’s back up again. 😉

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            It was the ferrets.

          • SmotPoker

            Once they saw the ferocious hordes of the majestic ferrets they knew it was game over man…

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            thats right. they surrendered.

    • kreskin

      Journalism ? Journalists ? Truth ? We can’t have that !

  • 17

    ‘Get him, baby!’ White supremacist runs over, kills black teen as girlfriend cheers

    A white supremacist mowed down an African-American teenager with his car and smashed youth’s head into the window of a convenience store as his girlfriend cheered him on. Both have been indicted for murder.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/357991-white-supremacist-murders-teen/

    • MsPythia

      Sick.

  • 17

    Putin on DNC hack: Let’s talk content, not hackers’ identity

    The allegations that Russia hacked the Democratic Party are false and the US public should not be allowed to be steered away by them from the facts exposed by the leaked material, Russian President Vladimir Putin
    said.

    https://www.rt.com/news/358007-putin-dnc-hack-comment/

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      Hillary has made me agree with Putin.

      Oh geez.

      • RTIII

        Yeah, I hope he mops the floor with her!

        AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhahahahahaha!

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          <3

    • kreskin

      Was a public service … whoever is responsible . Seems that the dumb ass American public would rather not know .

      • 17

        As for myself, I don’t give a shit WHO hacks anything. As far as I’m concerned, if it’s in the sky, it’s free for all. What I don’t get is why no one gives a shit what the hacks reveal.

        • kreskin

          Exactly .

  • MsPythia

    Wow:

    Wikileaks Founders Just Revealed Why Sanders Really Dropped Out
    http://usmediacenter.com/wikileaks-founder-sanders-dropped/

    • MsPythia

      Hey L◔_◔K here ^

      Assange says he has material about Bernie that will be published.

      • We’ll see. Assange is doing a lot of teasing, and not a lot of revealing. It doesn’t take all that much effort to effort to type “cp ./secret__files_i_keep_teasing/*.pdf /usr/local/www/apache22/data”

        So the more he teases about info he’s not publishing, the less I trust him.

        • MsPythia

          My opinion: I think he is waiting for the moment that he thinks can exact the most damage to Clinton. He put the DNC leaks out just before the Dem Convention, and it fired the protests, left nothing but empty seats in the room that they had to fill with paid actors, and helped Jill Stein get a windfall of donations and supporters. I think he wants to bury her, because she wants to bury all whistleblowers.

  • Left of Eden

    Another excellent Jimmy Dore piece.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9LERE8C1mY

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      ty

  • MsPythia

    Scary. People on Twitter are talking about that guy DG Seaman who was fired from HuffPo for writing about Hillary’s health — and now has just been banned on Twitter as well.

    • Dosido3

      WTF?!

      • MsPythia

        They’re silencing him. Just like we’ve been silenced, but they’re going after him harder because they know he has a following.

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          Idiots need to realize he can change his ip and post under a different names.

          • Um, not so easy to change one’s IP, these days.

          • SpiffyTheValiant
          • If you’ll recall, I’m the guy with 30 years experience on the Internet, and even some credit for bits of its infrastructure. I don’t know what “meet your dad” means, but I promise it’s not that easy to use any change in IP, even when through a tor or vpn connection to continue to post and for most people, changing IP upon demand is nigh impossible.

            That’s even before you get to RT’s valid point about discoverability.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Oh not this again 😛

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            I really doubt that Twitter is monitoring millions of people’s ips that closely and as I am not a techie, am not going going to debate your 30 years of xp. I’m just telling you that I know it can be done.

          • What I hear you telling me that your dad signed up to whatever service with two different emails. Services, like Twitter, generally only ban by IP in the most extreme circumstances of hard-core trolling and such, it’s highly unlikely your father got IP banned, unless he had already had multiple dozens of abusive accounts on that one IP.

            I know that changing one’s IP address can be done, and all the ways one can accomplish it which is why I know difficult it is, these days.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Oh he didn’t get banned anywhere. he likes to be anoymous.

          • OK. [backs away]

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            lol ok

          • RTIII

            It entirely depends on what kind of service you have.

            I “buy” my IP addresses. I could go buy more! My ISP can map pretty much any set of IP addresses I obtain onto my systems. It’s not even expensive – maybe $5 / month or something like that for a set of 8.

            Of course, then changing all the DNS and so forth is a royal pain in the ass, but it’s not very hard to do, just a lot of detail to get right.

            Also, I have a block of them, so I can re-shuffle which gateway I’m going through and the outside world then has me at a different IP – any would-be blocker has to know the right mask to get them all, otherwise it’s one at a time!

          • You’re still listed as owning that block, so I just ban that block. Again, what I said.

          • RTIII

            not that simple; sure, he could post, but people have to be able to find him…

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            🙁

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      The truth will not be tolerated.

      • MsPythia

        She’s ready to start wars over people who reveal her secrets.

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          You told the truth. BANNED. BANNED. off with your cyber head metaphorically. BANNED.

    • cathyx

      This will only make it worse. Now everyone will want to know what’s up with her health that this is being done to keep it quiet.

      • MsPythia

        I agree. This wouldn’t be happening to him if there wasn’t something very wrong with her — and we also know that Google has scrubbed ‘Hillary’s Health’ as a search term. If you try the same search on Bing, it’s very different.

        • cathyx

          I hope there’s something in the next email drop to speak of her health.

          • MsPythia

            Or maybe she’ll just have an episode in public that will remove all doubt.

        • RTIII

          you can also try duckduckgo! 🙂

          https://duckduckgo.com/html/

    • MsPythia

      His Youtube Channel is still up — for now.

      https://www.youtube.com/c/davidseamanus

    • cathyx
      • MsPythia

        Thanks for this Cathy — I’m glad it was him who deleted his account, and that this was his decision.

        • cathyx

          Reading the comments they think that he was forced to.

          • MsPythia

            I don’t know if I believe that… Do you?

          • cathyx

            I don’t know or follow the guy. If the commenters do, then i think they would know more about his reactions and such. It doesn’t make sense why he would just stop his twitter, his explanation didn’t make sense.

          • MsPythia

            It sounds to me like he’s going to be working for InfoWars (even though he’s on the left, and doesn’t agree with most of what Alex Jones reports). Here’s another video where he’s describing this, and why he’s accepted that offer. Maybe he’s going to open another twitter account once he’s established himself there? I don’t know, but it will be interesting to see what kind of reporting he’ll be doing there.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzXZj3cLVec

  • The truth is, Clinton’s ties to corporate media outlets may be more corrupt and illegal than her foundations hinky relations.

    The Clinton Foundation and the Media: A Deep-Seated Conflict of Interest
    http://www.truth-out.org/images/Images_2016_09/2016_0901clinton.jpg

    The media industry, which many claim is out to get Clinton, is actually made up mostly of donors to the Clinton Foundation. These donors are also actively supporting Clinton’s campaign with donations and even fundraising. Indeed, while Clinton’s potential conflicts of interest at the State Department are thought-provoking, her financial ties to Big Media are a concern in their own right.

    • kreskin

      … which many claim is out to get Clinton ? Laughable .

  • SpiffyTheValiant
    • 17

      LMAO

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        I thought it was hilarious 🙂

    • MsPythia

      Cute!

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        *cub goes after a zebra* o.o why isn’t this working?! it worked on dad.

        • MsPythia

          😀

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            cub~ AHHHH! HELP HELP!

            *dad roars into action.*

            cub~ T_T you lied to me! you said i had adult teeth.

          • RTIII

            Thus cub learned a valuable lesson; parents lie.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            Cub~ T_T

          • SmotPoker

            Let’s talk about Santa….

          • 17

            Let’s talk about how change starts at the ballot box.

  • RTIII

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0KgtYd6i9Q

    Jimmy Dore on the killer cops in Chicago.

    Only one basic criticism here: Jimmy should be using the term “Accessories to Murder” because that’s the legal charge those other officers should be charged with…

  • SmotPoker

    What utter fucking drivel. Nonsense through, and through, and they should be ashamed of themselves for even publishing such a thing.

    Can you guess the exact statement in this article where I called bullshit, and dismissed anything else they had to say?

    Looking for a winner here today kids, I’m confident you can find it.

    https://theconversation.com/its-official-one-joint-of-cannabis-makes-you-lazy-but-only-in-the-short-term-64698

    • doubleplusliberal

      addicted to cannabis

      • SmotPoker

        Excellent work detective.

        Once that phrase was entered into the equation it was game over assholes.

        • And that’s the thing. When you encounter someone who believes even one big, glaringly obvious piece of bullshit, you have to heavily discount anything else they say, or at least research the hell out of anything out of their brain, before accepting its factuality. Because if they’re a sucker for one obvious lie, how many more have they been bamboozled by…

          Like when someone tell you about the need for better healthcare, then start in on how homeopathy is so wonderful.

          • SmotPoker

            GIGO – Garbage In, Garbage Out.

          • 17

            Or when someone starts off with “19 Arabs with box-cutters”. That’s what stops me from reading further.

  • Left of Eden

    Obama Stops Counting Job Losses From TPP & Trade Deals –

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tey6zcc7k4

    Video also raises the good point about how hard Obama is fighting for TPP v. how quickly he abandoned the public healthcare option.

  • SmotPoker

    From the I hate it when that happens department.

    Crowds are left standing staring at empty stage as Jill Stein takes a plane to the wrong city for a gathering.

    http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/09/02/green-party-presidential-candidates-capital-university-speech-delayed-after-she-flies-to-wrong-city.html

    • Left of Eden

      Oh, Fuck. Reminds me of the time I was a day late picking up my fiance from the airport.

      • SmotPoker

        Shit happens.

      • RTIII

        She didn’t call you?!

        • Left of Eden

          She did. But she arrived at LAX and I live in San Diego; she was so po’d and exhausted from a 14 hour flight that she found another way home.

          • towerofbabel

            I notice you didn’t say “former” fiancé.

          • Left of Eden

            Nor, surprisingly, have I done it since.

    • kreskin

      Not good .

  • RTIII

    Here is the email answering Hillary’s request for information about Provigil, the trade name for the drug modafinil.

    https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/25404

    It’s long, I won’t post it here, but read it and then ask yourself just why Hillary might want it.

    ALSO note that she apparently didn’t ask for this information from a Doctor! Maybe she DID ask a doctor and wanted to confirm what she was told? Hmmm… Very Curious.

    • towerofbabel

      Wikipedia:

      Off-label use for fatigue:

      Modafinil has also found off-label use with the neurological fatigue reported by some with multiple sclerosis.[12] In 2000, Cephalon conducted a study to evaluate modafinil as a potential treatment for MS-related fatigue. A group of 72 people with MS of varying degrees of severity tested two different doses of modafinil and an inactive placebo over nine weeks. Fatigue levels were self-evaluated on standardized scales. Participants taking a lower dose of modafinil reported feeling less fatigued and there was a statistically significant difference in fatigue scores for the lower dose versus the placebo. The higher dose of modafinil was not reported to be significantly more effective.[13][14]

      Modafinil is also used off-label to treat sedation and fatigue in many conditions, including depression,[15][16] fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, myotonic dystrophy,[17] opioid-induced sleepiness,[18] spastic cerebral palsy,[19] and Parkinson’s disease.[20] Modafinil has been shown to improve excessive daytime somnolence and fatigue in primary biliary cirrhosis.[21]

      • Dosido3

        do us a favor and just hang it up, Hillary!

    • Occam’s Razor: “…it has also gained a following among students, truckers, and others who want to stay awake for extended periods of time.”

      • RTIII

        Yes, and it has lots of other uses, too, including for various brain-ailments.

        • Yeah, but those explanations don’t make the cut of Occam’s razor, because there’s no clear evidence of such illnesses, just insinuations from RNC propaganda outlets, based on videos doctored by RNC propaganda outlets.

          • RTIII

            I get your point but don’t fully agree. Rather, we just don’t know enough. …Other presidential candidates have released their medical records and I think they’d be helpful here. Trump has already said he’d release his if Hillary will too, and I bet Jill Stein and Gary what’s his name would as well.

    • RTIII

      Dovetailing with this are a lot of emails about sleep, how sleeping is good, need for sleep, etc, such as one from Hillary on August 15, 2012 to Jacob Sullivan apologizing for missing his call and saying “Sleep is good”. There are lots of these…

      There’s one from Cheryl Mills with the subject, “Do you suffer from ‘decision fatigue’?” Keep in mind Hillary is her boss, so under what conditions would you ask your boss something like that?

      Bizarrely there’s an email from Cheryl Mills informing Hillary of, among other things, that in regard to Honduras she’ll be sacraficing a chicken in her backyard to the god Moloch!

      • Hillary Clinton is old. Old people need more sleep, lack of sleep can lead a person to behave at less than peak mental performance. I don’t see anything here other than an old person pushing themselves too hard.

        • RTIII

          Maybe.

          However, there are videos out there showing her apparently blacking out or otherwise losing the cognitive stream of the moment – and it’s not just one or two, either. I’ve seen maybe five and I haven’t even tried to find them.

          • Those videos are all out of context, or clearly and explicitly doctored (slowed down, chopped up, etc.). They have actually worked to make me disregard such theories, not to believe them. And they all are sourced out of RNC echo-chamber publications.

          • RTIII

            I’m still open minded.

            I’m reminded, also, of Reagan. His son later confirmed what many merely suspected; he had alzheimers as President and in his second term it was pretty bad.

          • As the saying goes, don’t be so open minded that your brains spill out. I’ve got no love for Clinton, but this stuff about her having some hundreds of different illnesses just doesn’t pass the smell test, for me.

          • MsPythia

            Who is saying she has hundreds of different illnesses? She’s got thyroid problems (she’s taking medication for that) and she possibly has another condition since she faints and falls down a lot and is prone to blood clots.

          • Repeated insinuations in these threads are saying it. Hell, ToB just posted a laundry list, right below. This is all Republican sourced, and makes Progressives look bad, when they traffic in it. That’s all I’m saying, and it’s right. Clintonistas are encouraging it, on the sly, so they can use it to discredit their opponents later. Bloody common tactic the Clintons and their allies have used repeatedly.

          • MsPythia

            Not insinuations that she faints and falls down and has blood clots. Not insinuation that she spent six months in the hospital after the blood clot in her brain. Not insinuation that there are things in the emails that show that she was sleeping a lot and asking for info about drugs, and someone at the NFL about her cracked head.

          • She fainted once, fell down, hit her head, and got a blood clot because of it. ONCE, not “all the time” as you are insinuating, that’s just not factually supportable. ONCE. FOUR. YEARS. AGO.

          • MsPythia

            Actually she fell twice. Once when she broke her arm. And once when she collapsed onstage and suffered a severe concussion that put her in the hospital for six months. Then when she went back to the doctor to make sure that all was well in a follow up visit, her doctor ordered tests that revealed the blood clot in her brain. Not insinuations. Facts. And, she has also worn the special Fresnel prism eye glasses that are designed for people who suffer double vision — she was wearing them at the Benghazi hearings.

          • smkngman3

            TWICE that we know of!

          • MsPythia

            Plus the fall where she broke her arm, and the fall we saw her take getting onto the plane.

          • MsPythia

            Hillary faints during speech in Buffalo NY, in 2005.

            http://www.nbcnews.com/id/6890519/ns/politics/t/hillary-clinton-faints-during-speech-buffalo/#.V8nPmbX2D8s

            2009 — falls down, breaks arm:

            http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/18/clinton.arm/index.html?eref=rss_us

            Hillary Clinton faints, has concussion — Dec. 2012

            http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/15/us/us-hillary-clinton-concussion/

            Hillary Clinton treated for blood clot in her head

            http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/31/politics/hillary-clinton-hospitalized/

            Hillary Clinton’s Blood Clot Could Have Been Life Threatening

            http://abcnews.go.com/Health/hillary-clinton-blood-clot-life-threatening-medical-experts/story?id=18101213

            “She is lucky being Hillary Clinton and had a follow-up MRI — lucky that her team thought to do it,” said Dr. Brian D. Greenwald, medical director at JFK Johnson Rehabilitation Center for Head Injuries. “It could have potentially serious complications.”
            The backup of blood flow could have caused a stroke or hemorrhage, according to Greenwald.

            “Imagine this vein, where all the cerebral spinal fluid inside the head
            and spine no longer flows through this area,” he said. “You get a big
            back up and that itself could cause a stroke. In the long-term … the
            venous system can’t get the blood out of the brain. It’s like a Lincoln
            Tunnel back up.”

            A transverse sinus thrombosis is a clot arising in one of the major
            veins that drains the brain. It is an uncommon but serious disorder.

            According to Greenwald, the clot was most likely caused by dehydration
            brought on by the flu, perhaps exacerbated by a concussion she recently
            suffered.

            “The only time I have seen it happen is when people are severely
            dehydrated and it causes the blood to be so thick that it causes a clot
            in the area,” said Greenwald. “It’s one of the long-term effects of a
            viral illness.”

            Bill Clinton says it took Hillary Clinton 6 Months to ‘Get Over’ Concussion

            http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/05/hillary-clinton-took-6-months-to-get-over-concussion-bill-says-of-timeline/

            From today:

            Clinton says could not recall all briefings due to concussion: FBI report

            http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-emails-idUSKCN11829I

          • MsPythia

            This is not out of context — she loses her train of thought and says “upward spiral” which made zero sense.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6rzbGwe0aE

          • Yes, I see a politician flubbing a stump speech, and then some suspicious edits/cuts. No proof of anything other than campaigning is tiring.

          • MsPythia

            No there’s no editing and cutting in the first half of that video. LOOK at the expression on her face when she loses her train of thought.

          • WHAT?!?!? Are you kidding?!? From 11 seconds in, it’s nothing but jump cuts to loop a couple second flub.

          • MsPythia

            Here’s another version of the same video:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohnVx88IIdU

          • RTIII

            Yep, her brain skipped a groove there!

            And she doesn’t appear to be fatigued in that instance, either.

          • Happens to actors all the time. That’s what “gaff reels” are made of.

          • RTIII

            Actors are trying to recite memorized scripts. This wasn’t a movie, TV show or play; she should know this shit cold and besides, she can say whatever she wants and not be stuck to reciting someone else’s lines.

            The two are NOT comparable. Sorry.

          • MsPythia

            And what does ‘Upward Spiral’ even mean in the context of what she was talking about? It’s bizarre.

          • Same Response: I see a politician, on the campaign trail, slightly flub a stump speech. Something I’ve seen from every other politician running this year.

          • Video from a site that has entries like “BLACK LIVES MATTER KILLS PEOPLE” and “Trump is right! This video showing the horrors of living in America’s most Muslims city, Dearborn Michigan.”

            This is who you’re telling me is a credible source?!?!?

          • MsPythia

            The source doesn’t matter — it’s ACTUAL footage of her speaking and spacing out!

          • The source does matter, especially when there’s multiple small jump cuts in the video.

            Slipping up on a stump speech is not any kind of proof that she’s got some sort of dire illness, or brain damage. There’s just no way I can see to get there from the evidence you’re relying on.

          • MsPythia

            Disagree. I think fainting, falling down a lot and having serious blood clots say she’s got something wrong.

          • 17

            Are you forgetting the “aborted baby on a lab table asking for a cigarette and a scotch”?

          • MsPythia

            Lol!

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            O.O huh?

          • Ann Watson

            I learned how ‘facts’ can be misrepresented years ago.
            I read two different newspaper accounts of an incident, in one you would have hung the culprit given the option, in the other you would have let him go.
            I had to double check the only real facts, names and addresses, to be sure it was the same incident.
            I’ve never bothered with ‘news’ papers since.
            Thinking the same could not hold true for television because you can see and hear for yourself what happened I had another rude awakening some time later when I watched and listened to a prominent politician’s speech in its entirety, then saw and heard what was reported on the ‘news’, a carefully edited clip taken out of context which completely changed the meaning of what he said. I now take everything I see and hear with a gigantic pinch of salt.

          • Exactly. Arguing that Clinton is showing that she doesn’t have the basic stamina to campaign, without getting excessively worn out, because she’s seeking a “pepper-upper” drug, that’s a argument I can accept, based on fact. Going further to insist that she’s got brain damage or some such, with the only evidence being some highly questionable, often clearly doctored, video, well, that’s not a winning argument, with me or, I think anywhere…

        • MsPythia

          Come on, this is about more than old age. Hillary Clinton has had many many instances of fainting and falling down, and two instances of very serious blood clots. In one fainting instance, she broke her arm, and one of her falls took place when she was onstage speaking and blacked out and fell so hard that she had a severe concussion that ended up with a blood clot in her brain. We’ve seen photos of her being helped up a short flight of steps with men holding her up on either side, and more recent ones where she’s being held up by two men while trying to give a speech. The emails also point to issues where she’s looking for drugs to help her, and where she’s contacting someone at the NFL because of her “cracked head.” I do think she’s got problems, and that it’s more than just old age.

        • 17

          There’s also the fact that she was playing S-O-S of the world. Look at how Kerry aged in office. He looks miserable.

          • Blue Basilisk

            Government work really takes a toll on people. Obama looks like he’s aged about 20 years.

        • smkngman3

          Hillary has memory problems!

          • Then so does Bernie, so does Jill, so does Trump, and so on and so on, because I’ve seen all of those people suffer the kind of brain-fart exhibited in Ms. P’s video, below.

          • MsPythia

            You have? Well let’s see those videos then.

          • Find them yourself. I’ve seen them, in passing, didn’t note them because I don’t consider it important evidence of anything. And I don’t have Republican propaganda sites shoving them at me.

          • MsPythia

            Burden of proof is on you. Below you’ll see that I’ve provided you with proof of my claims that Hillary faints and falls down and has blood clots.

          • RTIII

            Yes, I’d like to see them too!

          • Look for yourself, I’m not going to Google it for you.

          • RTIII

            I don’t think they exist.

          • Think what you want, I think it’s outlandish, at best, to insist no other politician has flubbed a campaign stump speech, because you’ve pinned a weak case against Clinton on the assertion.

            Three’s so much that’s easily, factually proven about Clinton’s unworthiness for office, I just can’t understand the obsession with the RNC propaganda rabbit-hole.

          • RTIII

            “Think what you want”

            It’s about time you acknowledge that; you’ve spent the entire morning (morning here anyway) trying to tell variously either me, MsP or Spiffy that our opinions don’t matter, are wrong and you are the only one that’s correct and yours is the only opinion any of us should hold lest we be “outlandish.”

            “I think it’s outlandish, at best, to insist no other” … opinion than yours is valid.

            Exactly.

            Now, my time at the computer has come to a close for the time being. Good day to everyone…

          • Nonsense. I haven’t been doing any such thing. Just refuting the idea that the “evidence” you’ve presented is any such thing. You’re only taking it personally, I think, because you know you’re indulging in speculation based on unreliable and sparse information.’

            I started by pointing out that I’ve seen numerous politicians flub speeches, you all but outright called me a liar. And now you’re trying to make my rebuttal, that your insistence that no other politician had flubbed a stump speech, an attack against you by me? That certainly is outlandish.

            I haven’t attacked anyone, just pointed out, repeatedly, that the evidence you’re presenting to justify an opinion that Clinton has some or other serious brain disorder is, at best, flimsy and you are attacking me for it, attacking me culminating in insisting I apologize for simply asking for facts, not doctored videos or speculation based on 1 piece of barely relevant data.

            So, no, I think if anyone owes anyone an apology, it’s you and Ms. P who owe me the apology for trying to shout me down because I simply don’t agree with your opinions and am willing to defend my disagreement.

          • MsPythia

            Good day RT!

          • smkngman3

            “Clinton says could not recall all briefings due to concussion: FBI report”

          • Ann Watson

            The fight for the right to even stand as a candidate for president would take its toll on anyone.
            This is the first POTUS election I have witnessed close up, and this is as close as I would want to get (England), next time I think I’ll turn everything off and just wait to hear the result. I don’t think my nerves could stand another one, I feel exhausted just following this one, or is this exceptional? ; )

          • 17

            Relax. There won’t BE another U.S. Presidential election.

          • Ann Watson

            I fear you may be right. ; )

          • Well, there’s definitely been some exceptional things about it. But as far as the toll it takes on candidates, I think this one has been about par for the course, in my experience (closeup, in 7 of the 10 elections I’ve been eligible to vote in)

          • Ann Watson

            Sooner you than me, perhaps you’ve developed an immunity. ; )

          • RTIII

            For the “audience,” this one has been extremely difficult, certainly the most difficult in my five decades of life. I’d say it’s absolutely exceptional.

          • Ann Watson

            It has been ‘educational’. ; )
            I recently decided to try and find out how we measure up to the US in terms of size, I fondly imagined we would at least merit a state each, imagine my shock to discover the whole lot of us fit into California, it really puts things into perspective.
            America is so big, it is in effect like many different countries all joined together, we have enough problems and we’re only ‘California’. ; )

          • RTIII

            Yall are different countries too! Wales, Scottland, Isle of Mann, etc!

          • Ann Watson

            Indeed!
            Different countries, different people, different customs and happy to be that way, and still all in one state. ; )

          • kreskin

            It’s stressful , lying as much as she does , can’t keep her stories straight .

          • smkngman3

            Due to concussion!

          • kreskin

            How convenient .

          • smkngman3

            If true it disqualifies her.

            If an excuse, it disqualifies her!

          • MsPythia

            Clinton says could not recall all briefings due to concussion: FBI report

            http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-emails-idUSKCN11829I

          • kreskin

            I’m curious , did that happen during the sniper attack in Bosnia ?

        • kreskin

          I don’t care about her age , the fact that she is a trigger happy neocon war monger , on the take and corrupt as hell , that’s what worries me .

          • I think those are the far more effective and verifiable arguments against her, than any other.

        • Dosido3

          a guilty conscience can keep people up too…or simply wondering how much one can get away with.

  • SmotPoker

    Who wants to have a great read, and get a real look at the history of America free of charge? I wish this was mandatory reading in our schools. A really great book that the author, Howard Zinn has authorized to be put up online for people to read. Educational, and an interesting read. Highly recommended.

    http://www.historyisaweapon.com/zinnapeopleshistory.html

    • I like Zinn. I’ve always found his work to be thoughtful, and even for me, enlightening.

    • smkngman3

      Thanks!

      Always meat to get that book.

  • Dosido3

    This is pretty sweet. The Spanish kids won a soccer match and take time to comfort the losing team. Gracious winners!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBtfGncukZc&feature=youtu.be

  • SmotPoker

    America, land of the free?

    This is criminal. We have made imprisoning our citizens into a science. Fuckers.

    http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/poor_children_are_incarcerated_when_families_20160902#14728378181791&action=collapse_widget&id=0&data=

    • Left of Eden

      Frigging outrageous. Can’t believe what a shithole this country is becoming.

      • kreskin

        It’s a fucking cesspool , no longer worth defending .

        • Left of Eden

          Is amounts to a debtors’ prison. Just don’t see how it can be constitutional. People caught up in this deserve compensation + damages.

          • MsPythia

            The people caught up in it are poor and can’t get lawyers — that’s key to all of this shit. The same thing happens to people who can’t get out of jail (often arrested for bullshit reasons) simply because they can’t pay court fees or tickets and ever growing additional fines for not paying the fees and tickets.

        • Dosido3

          I’m thinking of moving to Iceland or Greenland…I like to knit and they have nice wool. Not that it will be that cold for that much longer…

          • cathyx

            I’m coming with you. I hate the heat anyway.

          • Dosido3

            Me too. I live in Northern California and now our summers are as hot as SoCal. Boo!

          • cathyx

            I’m right above you in Portland. I don’t even have to wear sweaters in the winter anymore.

          • Dosido3

            I love Portland. I have a SIL who lives there. Seems like a fun and beautiful town…

          • RTIII

            I’m in Oakland, MsP is nearby, too – whereabouts are you?

  • kreskin
    • MsPythia

      That’s obscene.

    • The machine keeps rolling on, while her opponents keep getting themselves trapped in cul-de-sacs, instead of attacking her full-force where she’s vulnerable. 🙁

      • kreskin

        Fear , afraid of the candidate and her backers ? Threats / intimidation , would explain Sanders and Warren’s endorsements . Notice that those two have pretty much disappeared now .

        • At a politician level, I wouldn’t disagree, though I don’t think threats of physical violence have occurred, or were necessary. I think both the above mentioned politicos bought, hook line and sinker, the whole “Good of the Party” line of bullshit to the degree that, at most, threats to influence were enough to twist their arms. Much to my dismay.

          • kreskin

            My guess is that the threats were political , but I would not put worst past them . What political / career threats could they have made against Ross Perot ? ( None ) Look what they did to him when he became a threat to the powers that be and the status quo . He too disappeared , dropped out of sight .

          • 17

            IIRC, they threatened Perot’s family, didn’t they? Something to do with his daughter’s wedding?

  • smkngman3

    Mind BLOWING!!!

    Excuse me if this has been posted already……………………

    “Clinton says could not recall all briefings due to concussion: FBI report”

    U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton told the FBI she did not recall all of the briefings she received on handling sensitive information as she made the transition from her post as secretary of state, due to a concussion she suffered in 2012, according to a report released Friday.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-emails-idUSKCN11829I

    • cathyx

      If she has problems remembering her time working, she has to be thoroughly checked out and the report must be made public. This is an outrage that she hasn’t.

    • Dosido3

      Hillary: Questions about my health are crazy and sexist.
      FBI: She used her concussion as cover.
      Hillary: I’m an old, infirm woman! Stop it!

      • cathyx

        She has every angle covered.

  • smkngman3

    WikiLeaks ‏@wikileaks 20m20 minutes ago

    Why do significant Hillary Clinton FOIA releases always happen on Friday afternoon, or before a national holiday?

    WikiLeaksVerified account

    ‏@wikileaks

    NEW: Hillary Clinton FBI interview & investigation summaries PDF: 1) https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton/hillary-r.-clinton-part-01-of-02/at_download/file … 2) https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton/hillary-r.-clinton-part-02-of-02/at_download/file

    • cathyx

      To give you something to do on your 3 day weekend besides drink beer.

    • RTIII

      yeah, what a boat-load of shit to read! I gave it a quick overview. I’ll bet there’s some key dirt in there somewhere.

      One thing I read I hadn’t heard of before was yet ANOTHER email server!

      This one is associated with the domain name “HRC Office” (hrcoffice.com), as opposed to the other one we knew about already, “Clinton Emails” (clintonemails.com)…

      And that was just from a few seconds review! I wonder what else is in there!

    • cathyx

      I hope Emptywheel is on this. She’s great at reading all that boring hard to understand stuff and reporting on the good stuff.

  • smkngman3

    ‏@wikileaks

    New York Times front page WikiLeaks conspiracy theory was penned by a governor of the Ditchley Foundation

    “New York Times launches McCarthyite witch-hunt against Julian Assange”

    http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/09/02/wiki-s02.html

  • RTIII

    I’ve got to head out, peeps!

    I’ll be lurking now and then, keep the good links / data coming! 🙂

  • smkngman3

    “Clinton offers plan to prevent ‘excessive’ drug price hikes”

    In a statement, Clinton said that “all Americans deserve full access to the medications they need,” adding that she is “ready to hold drug companies accountable when they try to put profits ahead of patients, instead of back into research and innovation.”
    https://apnews.com/ed6ef1eca55345b188e73e74daedefde/Clinton-offers-plan-to-prevent-'excessive'-drug-price-hikes

    More bullshit!

  • smkngman3

    “FBI: Whereabouts of Clinton phones would ‘frequently become unknown’

    Hillary Clinton used at least 13 mobile phones while secretary of State, many of which cannot be found, according to an FBI report released Friday.

    Top Clinton aide Huma Abedin told the FBI the former first lady often replaced her BlackBerry.

    It wasn’t uncommon, she said, for Clinton to use a new BlackBerry for a few days before switching it out for an older version “with which she was more familiar.”

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/294325-fbi-report-whereabouts-of-clintons-old-phones-would

    • Reckless entitlement. See the “…fits the pattern” comment below. 🙁

      • smkngman3

        Missing laptop and thumb drive loaded with her emails.
        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrX352kWEAAl4x0.jpg

        • Dosido3

          Tweet

          Hillary: Questions about my health are crazy and sexist.
          FBI: She used her concussion as cover. (For email screw ups)
          Hillary: I’m an old, infirm woman! Stop it!

          • MsPythia

            Dosi, we are all such sexist misogynists! Nothing can be said about Hillary!

          • Dosido3

            Only the Queen can mention her own health!

          • RTIII

            How could questions about her health be sexist? We have asked this question of other presidential candidates before! ALL MEN!

          • Dosido3

            Sexist! I tell you!

          • MsPythia

            They viciously attacked McCain over his age and health concerns, and when Bernie started to rise in the polls they attacked again over his age. But when Hillary’s health and age is brought up, that’s is unprecedented outrage, and nothing but sexism!

        • MsPythia

          Wow. She’s is so reckless and fucking incompetent.

          • smkngman3

            “At least 26 times, Clinton couldn’t recall issues raised by the FBI. Clinton told FBI agents she couldn’t even remember any briefing or training by State “related to the retention of federal records or handling of classified information.”
            http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/clinton-told-fbi-couldnt-recall-key-details-26-times/

          • MsPythia

            But it’s out of the question to say she either lies constantly, or might actually be brain damaged!

          • smkngman3

            HRC told the FBI she had no computers in the SCIF at her house. But they found that she did.
            https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrX1o7OWAAE1Fcq.jpg

          • MsPythia

            I guess it’s fine for these people to lie to the FBI without any consequences? Or is it only fine because Hillary Clinton is brain damaged and they wish to protect her?

          • kreskin

            Definitively the former , we know that .

          • Dosido3

            But can she remember her lies?…that is the question.

          • Left of Eden

            But it is somewhat reassuring that some of her apparent lies may be brain damage instead.

          • Blue Basilisk

            What a buffoon!

          • RTIII

            Couldn’t remember the training is right; the training never happened! Somewhere during the primary I recall reading someone in State who said she refused or otherwise skipped the security briefings. I recall this specifically because I was thinking, “that self-entited bitch!” I’m sure I could find a link if I had more time.

          • smkngman3

            I think she had ONE session and skipped all the rest.

            But she had her flunkies determine for themselves what should be classified.

          • MsPythia

            I remember that too RT.

          • Ann Watson

            That is a classic lawyers cop-out, I don’t recall……..

          • smkngman3

            Seems with Hillary you get one of two responses.

            An outright lie or she can’t recall.

        • Dosido3

          Nice Madlibs game you got going…

        • cathyx

          No one has any idea where that laptop or thumbdrive is. Ho hum.

    • smkngman3

      “Powell warned Clinton about using BlackBerry at State”

      Former Secretary of State Colin Powell advised Hillary Clinton to avoid using a BlackBerry to conduct official business at the State Department, according to notes from the FBI’s investigation into her private email server.

      Two days after she was sworn in as secretary of State, Clinton emailed Powell to ask about his use of a BlackBerry during his tenure at Foggy Bottom under President George W. Bush.

      FBI investigators said Powell told Clinton that if it became “public” that Clinton had a BlackBerry and she used it to “do business,” her emails could become “official record and subject to the law.”

      http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/294330-powell-warned-clinton-about-using-blackberry-at-state

  • SmotPoker

    How are we to discuss racism?

    In June 1993, citizens of Richmond, Virginia the former capital of the Confederacy initiated: Healing the Heart of America: an honest conversation on race, reconciliation and responsibility.

    Joined by people from 50 cities around the US and the world, they gave recognition to unacknowledged sites and events in the 370-year history of black-white relations.

    This award-winning documentary is the story of their walk through Richmond history.

    http://www.us.iofc.org

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QJZRjPnw0I

    • “Honestly” would be a good start, no?

  • kreskin

    FBI releases Clinton E mail report and surprise – surprise , there’s Babara Boxer , co-chair of the ( cough , cough ) ethics committee , poo pooing the story … covering Clinton’s ass on CNN .

    • Left of Eden

      Yay! Hillary is innocent! I’m so glad Hillary is corruption free. Who would now like to join me in singing “God Bless America “?

      • MsPythia

        How about a rousing chorus of USA!USA!USA! We’ve got to drown out the voices that might expose her!

      • s k

        As FLOTUS said we are the greatest country on Earth. Enough said, as are Vets are killing themselves everyday, homeless and without medical treatment.

    • MsPythia

      All the DNC sychophants prop this dotty-brained, dishonest, incompetent woman up no matter what.

      • towerofbabel

        She is just a figure head. They all know that she will jump to tune. That said, it seems to me there is a kind of malevolence in Hillary that leaks out every now and then.

        • MsPythia

          Yes, and she’s never met a war she didn’t love, and she’s been saber-rattling a whole lot lately.

    • s k

      I saw her going to the only defense they have of Hillary -but what about Trump? The Democrats are really disgusting .

      • MsPythia

        But don’t you understand? Hillary has a _VAGINA_. It doesn’t matter if her brains are scrambled!

        • s k

          I don’t want to seem sexist and rarely to I comment on anyone’s appearance, but is it common for a Senator from California to like like a whore, that had her makeup applied with a paint gun?

      • towerofbabel

        At least the mask is completely off, for anyone willing to look.

        • s k

          and a lot of people are looking and not liking what they see.

    • towerofbabel

      They hover around like flies.

      • MsPythia

        On shit.

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      Boxer makes me want to take up boxing…

      • RTIII

        As she’s one of my senators, I’ve tried to connect with her on quite a few occasions and succeeded in meeting with her and her aids a few times. . . Its only when in person you can really appreciate just how dumb she really is. If it weren’t for the fact that the ultra-rich pick our candidates it would be amazing she got elected Senator. But I suppose the dumb are easily manipulated…

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          yeah.

  • smkngman3

    “DHS’s New Election Cybersecurity Committee Has No Cybersecurity Experts”

    Like any committee formed in response to a hot-button topic, the appointees are better known for their years of tenure in government positions than their technical acumen, as the ACLU’s Chris Soghoian points out.

    “Christopher Soghoian @csoghoian

    4 state gov officials, 0 tech experts, appointed to new DHS Election Infrastructure Cybersecurity Working Group. http://www.pressreleasepoint.com/nass-appoints-secretaries-state-federal-election-infrastructure-cybersecurity-working-group …”

    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160902/06412735425/dhss-new-election-cybersecurity-committee-has-no-cybersecurity-experts.shtml

  • s k

    Jill Stein Rap Anthem ‘Power to the People’

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSndUhfjt90

    • MsPythia

      Nice! Wish I could see the rapper! 😀

      • s k

        The Jill Stein campaign has a new anthem. The political rap song by Kor Element is called “Power to the People,” or “Fall in Line.”

        Kor is self-described “world poet” and “hip hop healer,” and he unveiled the song at a Stein rally in Los Angeles on Wednesday at Bernie’s Coffee Shop—a Los Angeles landmark, the former Johnnie’s Coffee Shop took on its new role as Bernie Sanders headquarters during primary season—on Wilshire Blvd. and Fairfax Ave.
        http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/jill_stein_has_a_new_rap_anthem_called_power_to_the_people_20160902

        I tried to find it on youtube, it’s not up yet

        • MsPythia

          Thanks for the info — I’ll keep looking for it! 🙂

  • EdgarHF

    “Counterpunch has a great article on the Orwellian absurdity of appointing the “Bronze Star Butcher,” Bob Kerrey to head the “Fulbright University of Vietnam””

    Sounds like Hillary has a prime candidate for the Ambassador to Vietnam. Or did she sell that post already?

  • smkngman3

    Don;t these countries know they’re not allowed to govern their own countries!

    “US Special Ops Training in Latin America Tripled, Docs Reveal”

    All this means, they add, that the public needs to ask some questions about the missions, namely, who exactly is the U.S. training? Are they implicated in human rights abuses? Is it now the U.S. military crafting U.S. foreign policy? And where is the public oversight?
    http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/08/31/us-special-ops-training-latin-america-tripled-docs-reveal

    • 17

      I’m guessing there’s something there we want to control or protect. Like water.

      • MsPythia

        Water will soon be the new oil.

        • 17

          Very soon. The Bushes are already on it.

      • smkngman3

        Mining.

  • cathyx
  • smkngman3

    “Colin Kaepernick Pledges $1 Million to Social Justice Groups as More Players Sit”

    “The message is that we have a lot of issues in this country that we have to deal with. We have a lot of people that are oppressed, we have a lot of people that aren’t treated equally, aren’t given equal opportunities. Police brutality is a huge thing that needs to be addressed,” he added.

    In Oakland, Lane was the only member of either team to sit down during the anthem. He said he didn’t know Kaepernick personally, but was “standing behind” him. After the game, he said, “It’s something I plan to keep doing until I feel like justice is being served.”

    http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/09/02/colin-kaepernick-pledges-1-million-social-justice-groups-more-players-sit

    • MsPythia

      This is awesome.

  • smkngman3
  • smkngman3
  • smkngman3

    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2016-08/25/17/enhanced/buzzfeed-prod-fastlane03/longform-original-2491-1472161992-3.jpg

    Imagine that this court is so powerful that nations often must heed its rulings as if they came from their own supreme courts, with no meaningful way to appeal. That it operates unconstrained by precedent or any significant public oversight, often keeping its proceedings and sometimes even its decisions secret. That the people who decide its cases are largely elite Western corporate attorneys who have a vested interest in expanding the court’s authority because they profit from it directly, arguing cases one day and then sitting in judgment another. That some of them half-jokingly refer to themselves as “The Club” or “The Mafia.”

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/chrishamby/super-court?utm_term=.ydw50NJZQ#.xgENVX35P

    • s k

      Obama’s neo-liberal international corporate coup

  • smkngman3

    “In lazy days of summer, three bears and dog become unlikely TV stars”

    The black bears — two cubs and their mother — ventured into a Pasadena neighborhood Thursday afternoon and took a dip in a backyard pool before being chased out of the area by a family dog, authorities said. TV choppers followed the action, which was broadcast live on local and, for a while, on national cable channels. The videos also became a hit on social media.
    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-pasadena-bears-backyard-pool-20160901-snap-story.html

    Video at link.

    • They don’t call it the “Silly Season,” in the “news” industry, for nothing!

  • smkngman3

    “Clinton emails wiped clean after NYT story”

    A number of Hillary Clinton’s private emails were erased weeks after The New York Times published a story reporting on her use of a private email server while secretary of State, according to notes from the FBI’s investigation released on Friday.
    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/294332-clinton-emails-wiped-clean-after-nyt-story

  • smkngman3

    This Bitch has balls!

    “Spokesman: If elected, Clinton will hold press conferences”

    Hillary Clinton’s press secretary says she will hold regular press conferences if president, predicting the Democratic nominee will hold one “soon.”

    Clinton’s last formal press conference was 272 days ago.

    Campaign press secretary Brian Fallon on Friday assured ABC News podcast “Powerhouse Politics” that if elected, “Hillary Clinton will hold press conferences.”

    “The amount of interaction can only go up,” Fallon explained, noting that the press covering Clinton’s campaign will now be allowed to travel on the same plane as her.

    http://thehill.com/media/294360-spokesman-if-elected-clinton-will-hold-press-conferences

  • SpiffyTheValiant

    You mean hiding from the press isn’t a winning strategy? But I thought that clinton was going to get at least 300 electoral votes and there weren’t going to be any swing states? What happened Clintonbots? You know it’s bad when even RS has to report on it.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/trump-catches-up-to-clinton-latest-reutersipsos-poll-finds/
    Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has pulled into an effective tie with Democratic rival Hillary Clinton, erasing a substantial deficit as he consolidated support among his party’s likely voters in recent weeks, according to the latest Reuters/Ipsos national tracking poll released Friday.

    The poll showed 40 percent of likely voters supporting Trump and 39 percent backing Clinton for the week of Aug. 26 to Sept. 1. Clinton’s support has dropped steadily in the weekly tracking poll since Aug. 25, eliminating what had been a eight-point lead for her.

    • MsPythia

      It now looks like her numbers will probably fall even farther what with the revelations from this document dump — and the fact that Bleach Bit was not just used on the server, but on her brain!

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        lmao

    • s k

      This is what they are feeding the Hillary Lemmings today

      New York Times Instructs On Why All Clinton Email Stories Should Be Ignored

      By Karoli Kuns:http://crooksandliars.com/2016/09/new-york-times-instructs-why-all-clinton

      This is why you shouldn’t believe any story about the emails, or the Clinton Foundation. In their zeal to find something — anything — to tear down the Clinton Foundation, they’ll even conveniently forget an important diplomatic moment in order to gnaw at the edges of an organization doing nothing but good in the world. Why? To tear down the one sane candidate in the presidential race. Because they’ve got to be balanced!

      • smkngman3

        I couldn’t go there.

        RS was bad enough.

        • s k

          I debated putting in the link, that’s why I put her closing remarks

  • MsPythia

    This is new:

    Someone using Tor breached email account on Clinton server

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/clinton-email-server-tor-227697

    So we have a Labor Day Document dump, and we see that her server was indeed breached, and she can’t recall anything, and there was a porn phishing scheme, and Hillary clicked on it! LOL!

    • smkngman3

      PUT IN THE MAIL?

      “FBI Says a Laptop That Held Clinton’s E-Mails Has Gone Missing”

      A personal laptop computer used to archive Hillary Clinton’s e-mails when she was secretary of state went missing after being put in the mail, according to the FBI’s report on its investigation into her use of a private e-mail system.
      http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-09-02/fbi-says-a-laptop-that-held-clinton-s-e-mails-has-gone-missing

      • MsPythia

        Holy crap! These people are incredibly stupid!

        • Edwin

          stupid or flat-out lying… you decide

          • MsPythia

            Either way it’s hurting them. They sound like complete and total idiots.

          • Edwin

            It doesn’t really hurt them. So what if the public disapproves of the FBI? It’s not like they are going to be de-funded or disbanded.

          • towerofbabel

            It’s a win/win because this is a display of coercive force. “Suck it up America! Now say Yes Ma’am! Tell me another lie!”

          • towerofbabel

            “Idiot” doesn’t matter anymore. It’s just a lie and the machine is going to shove her down our throat. And, that will be their message to America–repeat our lies with conviction or suffer.

          • MsPythia

            None of us here will repeat those lies or believe them — so I guess we’ll have to be punished?

    • EdgarHF

      The news flash is Politico knows about Tor. Congratulations Politico, you are entering the 21st century. But, here come the Russians again in 3…2…1…

    • Edwin

      Click here to see hot dripping v…

      and she did

  • EdgarHF

    Some wonderful YouTube news from Jimmy Dore

    https://youtu.be/YSPOz80PyvA

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      ty

    • MsPythia

      Hey Edgar! We were talking about this here yesterday.

      • EdgarHF

        Anything bad? 🙂

        • MsPythia

          Well, we were arguing about it. I thought it was insane that Youtube was doing this, others here thought it was okay.

          • EdgarHF

            Advertising has been a used to control newspapers since the 19th century. YouTube is for all practical purposes a monopoly owned by Google. This in my mind is a signal to shut the people up.

          • MsPythia

            Exactly. That’s what I said too. It’s censorship and an attempt to silence whoever they don’t like.

          • Edwin

            Think of the children, Ms. Think of the children.

          • Edwin

            Korea already has morality police (“things against public harmony”) and it censors dissenting opinions. If you go somewhere you’re not supposed to you get this warning (and content is blocked.) [cyber-police]

            http://www.warning.or.kr/

          • MsPythia

            Yeah, I guess that’s where we’re headed too. I think that Youtube needs to be seriously challenged now by another platform that is not imposing this kind of censorship.

          • towerofbabel

            This is where the machinery of monopoly and political corruption kick into service.

          • s k

            The US is working on it

            LEAKED CATALOGUE REVEALS A VAST ARRAY OF MILITARY SPY GEAR OFFERED TO U.S. POLICE:https://theintercept.com/2016/09/01/leaked-catalogue-reveals-a-vast-array-of-military-spy-gear-offered-to-u-s-police/

          • Left of Eden

            Right. These are vague criteria and will be used to arbitrarily shut down voices which large advertisers find objectionable.

          • towerofbabel

            And they are thinking, it’s our domain we can do what we want. Without a government willing to protect the public realm and free speech, this is only the beginning. We are undergoing a coup in slow motion.

          • towerofbabel

            The oligarchs are threatened by free speech, so much so that they will cut their own throats trying to control it. This is similar to what happened to TV and Cable and the gutting of journalism. The internet is going to be converted into a propaganda organ of neoliberalism.

          • Edwin

            I think it’s insane.

    • Edwin

      Disney-fy the internet for advertisers.

    • towerofbabel

      Will this open up the market for a competitor to YouTube?

      • MsPythia

        I think it does! I hope someone is working on that right now!

      • EdgarHF

        I doubt it while we are still living in this idiocracy.

        • towerofbabel

          Kleptocracy?

      • Edwin

        Too big to fail.

    • Annaleigh

      This is hitting all sorts of channels, everything from news/politics channels, to the unsolved mystery/horror/true crime communities, to people who talk about depression or sexual assault or do videos on how to treat acne problems. It’s insane.

      • Blue Basilisk

        Youtube is going to hurt themselves badly with this

        • Annaleigh

          Yup, every tweet they have been putting out lately, the responses are nothing about anger over the guidelines.

    • EdgarHF

      Along the same lines from Jimmy Dore

      https://youtu.be/5uFw_vaPfN4

  • smkngman3

    “Clinton claims she didn’t know ‘C’ stood for ‘classified’ in emails”

    “Clinton could not give an example of how the classification of a document was determined. Rather, she stated there was a process in place before her tenure, and she relied on career foreign service professionals to appropriately mark and handle classified information,” according to the summary of her testimony by the FBI.
    http://nypost.com/2016/09/02/fbi-releases-documents-on-clinton-email-investigation/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow&sr_share=twitter

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrYc9vSVUAAyhWD.jpg

    • MsPythia

      But, but… she’s so EXPERIENCED!!!

      • smkngman3

        “Polls Shows Bernie Sanders Would Win Election By Landslide”

        Polling data shows Bernie Sanders would trounce Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump and win in a landslide if the election was held today and he was on the ticket.
        http://yournewswire.com/polls-shows-bernie-sanders-would-win-election-by-landslide/?utm_campaign=crowdfire&utm_content=crowdfire&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

        • MsPythia

          Sigh.

        • towerofbabel

          What a conventional-thinking-fool Bernie turned out to be. He should have called out the DNC and run as an Independent or with Jill.

          • s k

            He said all along he would take it to the convention, he lied

          • smkngman3

            If the Dem party had any brains they’d remove Hillary before they lose.

            Even if she wins, she will be either ineffective or totally destructive to the partys future.

          • s k

            If the economy crashes while she is in the WH, the Dems are finished for years and the market is set for another crash.

          • The Democratic party won’t remove her, because they are her. She represents exactly what the Democratic party is, now and for many years now. All else has been wishful thinking, it seems to me,.

    • And then she promptly ignore the career foreign service professionals and did what she wanted. See; Modus Operandi

    • s k

      Smokey are you in Hermine path?

      • smkngman3

        Not this time.

        A week ago it seemed so but this one made a left hook.

        I’m on the East Coast.

    • Edwin

      Aside from this being funny and just plain sad-sick, in one of my many documentaries some “big-wig guy” explained that when you get to that level (eg., SoS), regardless of markings, you should know what is classified (and what is not) just by its contents, and treat it as such: you are in the business of the nation’s security and that’s your friggin’ job.

      • towerofbabel

        How long can this ridiculous circus go on? To buy in everyone has to operate on an unbelievably low level of self-induced-dumbed-down.

        • MsPythia

          I’m wondering that too. What has been revealed is that Hillary Clinton is an idiot, and not trustworthy with sensitive information, and incompetent at her job, and can’t remember anything, and possibly brain damaged.

        • 17

          How long? Are you kidding? There are still people terrified of jet fuel and box-cutters. This shit will go on until the lamp posts start getting some use.

      • s k

        I thought her job was to overthrow Democracies like Honduras.

        • smkngman3

          She only paid attention to those parts of her job she enjoyed.

          • cathyx

            lol

      • smkngman3

        She was supposed to ASSume that they were “Born” classified!

        But she couldn’t be bothered and let her flunkies use their pathetic judgment.

        • Edwin

          she’s lazy

          • smkngman3

            Not lazy but arrogant.

            Rule do not apply to her.

          • Edwin

            lazy, arrogant, entitled… a liar, a douchebag

    • cathyx

      I thought everyone knew that C stood for Cathyx.

  • !!!!

    • MsPythia

      Yay! 😀

    • s k

      Great!

  • MsPythia

    Hacking fears over Clinton server: FBI
    reveal Hillary was sent ‘phishing’ email with porn links and ‘dark web
    browser’ was used to access another account

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3771474/Clinton-email-server-hit-dark-web-tools-Hillary-worried-hacked-getting-send-link-porn.html

  • smkngman3
  • smkngman3
    • Left of Eden

      And that ain’t Jello Brand pudding!

      • Edwin

        Bill Cosby, always bin creepy

        • towerofbabel

          I remember him from when I was a wee tot. And, I thought he was creepy then.

          • Edwin

            Me too. The guy has always set off my creep radar.

  • Edwin

    Newest C&L dingbat ‘splains: email was hard for her so back off ya meanies

    FBI Releases Clinton Documents. Let The Cherry Picking Begin!

    By smelleypee

    They show us a person who really isn’t into technology; who depended on
    others to set up her email server, and keep it running and secure. They
    also show us a person who really didn’t see email as an essential
    element in her job.

    http://crooksandliars.com/2016/09/fbi-releases-clinton-documents-let-cherry

    • Edwin

      See, ya gotta keep an eye on these stooges. Karoli’s BFF is spewing more crap.

    • MsPythia

      This just shows us how stupid Clinton and Smelly are.

      • Edwin

        And liar Karoli and bonehead-punk Amato.

    • Dosido3

      I think she’s in it for the filthy lucre as she stated.

    • cathyx

      It’s always someone else’s fault.

      • MsPythia

        Yes. And that is not a feminist position at all.

        • cathyx

          She’s an embarrassment to our gender.

          • MsPythia

            She is. To me Clinton and most of her supporters online are about as feminist as Sarah Palin, and just as ignorant and nonsensical.

          • cathyx

            Lol, good one, I think the same way. Use your femininity to suit the situation. Ugh!

          • Edwin

            —> Use your femininity to suit the situation.

            I’m afraid their is an awful lot of this. Not helping the cause.

    • smkngman3

      They also show us a person who really didn’t see National Security as an essential element in her job.

      • Shohanna

        Or her responsibility to keep people safe instead of having them blasted to death in Benghazi Libya.

    • panem et circenses

      Who’s have guessed that being Secretary of State would require a minimum level of technological acumen? This is what happens when you appoint totally unqualified people to high level positions for political reasons.

      • cathyx

        Well, what was she paying her aide to do? She figured that tech stuff was her job.

        • panem et circenses

          I was being sarcastic. I don’t believe for a second that Hillary Clinton didn’t know exactly what she was doing by setting up a secret email server immune from FOIA requests and public or legal accountability. The “she didn’t know any better” spin the sycophants over at C&L are using makes her look completely incompetent, though.

          • cathyx

            Yes, i know, so was I.

      • Edwin

        And you need to be able to spot classified information at a glance no matter how it is marked. Your job is statecraft. I would think it’s implied.

  • smkngman3

    Details on California Audit recount: Ruling affects all counties. (self.WayOfTheBern)

    submitted 7 hours ago by Grace8543

    Volunteers sought by October to observe:

    http://files.constantcontact.com/9c436dfe501/f6f3d6d4-fd69-4087-a1ec-629fc27e236c.pdf Thank you to Trustvote.org for the link.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/50twcq/details_on_california_audit_recount_ruling/

  • smkngman3

    Either HillaryClinton lied to the FBI, or lied on her State Dept. non-disclosure agreement
    https://twitter.com/ILoveBernie1/status/771805531325489152

    • Dosido3

      My hubs just moved to a new company and the first thing they did was train him on new systems. And he’ll remember. But we are just average people. We don’t have the luxury of forgetting things without consequences.

      • smkngman3

        I bet Hillary never forgot how much her “Foundation” was due with each arms shipment.

  • 17
    • cathyx

      Are you back home?

  • smkngman3
    • towerofbabel

      But Bernie said “To hell with Hillary Clinton’s emails!”

      • cathyx

        They’re a nothingburger.

        (HT to Edwin;))

        • Edwin

          ..

  • Shohanna

    So, I was omw to bed.. Long day so far. And checking the email and I found this. I have never seen this in Ky. It needs to happen SO MUCH MORE in our state vs. Florida.

    http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/9/1/1565935/-Judge-who-berated-and-jailed-a-domestic-abuse-victim-gets-her-day-in-court-and-it-s-not-pretty?detail=email&link_id=1&can_id=7f575e1cd68a0478fe7fc9b99f9838e4&source=email-judge-who-berated-and-jailed-a-domestic-abuse-victim-gets-her-day-in-courtand-its-not-pretty-2&email_referrer=judge-who-berated-and-jailed-a-domestic-abuse-victim-gets-her-day-in-courtand-its-not-pretty-2&email_subject=judge-who-berated-and-jailed-a-domestic-abuse-victim-gets-her-day-in-court-and-its-not-pretty

    And if you don’t want to click KOS..

    this is directly to the video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM7Q5M2Yuy0

    She deserves every second of that embarrassment. But I doubt very seriously it will make a difference. I also want to point out. I am pretty sure they only did this because she is a woman. I haven’t seen a male done up like this. But I have seen plenty of misconduct by male and female to last me a fucking life time.

  • Edwin
    • cathyx

      Thanks Edwin, i love him and want to carry his baby.

      Edited to add: (just kidding about the baby part, sort of)

      • MsPythia

        I have an enormous crush on him too – he’s smart, funny, and sexy.

        • cathyx

          Sigh, yes he is.

          • Edwin

            *sigh*

    • cathyx

      Well, if this doesn’t convince Hilbots that hillary is a republican, nothing will.

      • Edwin

        nothing will

        • MsPythia

          Truth. They’ve already proved that they’re brainwashed for their Dear Leader.

          • Edwin

            This video would just be a big nothingburger to them.

          • cathyx

            Squeeeee!!

          • Edwin

            ^.^

            Hey, where’s Unka?

          • cathyx

            Don’t know, why?

          • Edwin

            I don’t want him to miss out on the nothingburgers.

          • cathyx

            He might as well, it’s just a nothingburger.

          • Edwin

            Oh, my! ……..(I’m outta here, stage right.)

          • I’m everywhere, baby, Just like Jesus. Or Telly.

          • MsPythia
          • Who Else!

          • MsPythia

            I loved that show when I was a kid. I have no idea if it’s any good now because I haven’t seen it in years, but back then I always tuned in, so I’m hoping it was actually pretty good…

          • Telly Savalas was a grand actor. Kojak was a pretty typical cop show of it’s era, some good episodes, some flat, a few bad, but through it all, Telly Savalas always shined. He’s got such a varied film and TV career, it’s hard to go far without finding something spectacular he was in.

          • MsPythia

            I think what you’re describing might be what it was that drew me to that show — that I just liked him, and liked watching him doing his thing.

          • Edwin

            I used to watch it and I remember liking it, but that’s about it. And he always had suckers.

          • Just over in the music thread, posting a bunch of stuff to anger and annoy people! 😀

          • MsPythia

            😀 <3

          • Edwin

            0.0

          • MsPythia

            😀

    • s k

      I will say it again, Hillary will do more damage than Trump.

    • MsPythia

      Thanks for posting. Jimmy covers all the best stuff, always.

      • Edwin

        Do you think I was surprised to learn that many of the commenters at C&L hate Jimmy Dore? Karoli has brainwashed them with her bullshit.

        • cathyx

          Republicans hate jimmy.

        • MsPythia

          Well they hate the truth about Shillz, so it follows that Jimmy would be on their hit list.

          • Edwin

            they hate the truth

            Karoli keeps them cozy in their little bubble

    • Left of Eden

      Meanwhile at C&L, Smelly Pee is at it again.

      FBI Releases Clinton Documents. Let The Cherry Picking Begin!

      The FBI released its investigative documents on the Clinton emails, and rather than be a treasure trove for the GOP, they vindicate Hillary Clinton.

      They show us a person who really isn’t into technology; who depended on others to set up her email server, and keep it running and secure. They also show us a person who really didn’t see email as an essential element in her job.

      http://crooksandliars.com/2016/09/fbi-releases-clinton-documents-let-cherry

      I understand that as long as there is politics there will be propagandists, but is it really that difficult on all the internet, to find one with brains?

      • s k

        Did you see this one from earlier?

        This is what they are feeding the Hillary Lemmings today

        New York Times Instructs On Why All Clinton Email Stories Should Be Ignored

        By Karoli Kuns:http://crooksandliars.com/2016

        This is why you shouldn’t believe any story about the emails, or the Clinton Foundation. In their zeal to find something — anything — to tear down the Clinton Foundation, they’ll even conveniently forget an important diplomatic moment in order to gnaw at the edges of an organization doing nothing but good in the world. Why? To tear down the one sane candidate in the presidential race. Because they’ve got to be balanced!

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          Karoli Kuns: who are you going to believe? me or your lying eyes?

        • MsPythia

          It sounds exactly like brainwashing, doesn’t it?

          • s k

            That’s all it is, total propaganda

        • Edwin

          She’s such a fucking douchebag.

          • s k

            Sexist

          • Edwin

            What do you expect from a misogynist?

            (Susie Madrak told me so.)

          • s k

            Come on, the foundation has done nothing but “good in the world”…..just ask the Saudis

        • Left of Eden

          One time on C&L I caught Karoli spreading disinformation about Republicans and pointed out to her that not only was the GOP bad enough that the tactic was unnecessary, but that it drags progressives down to their level and serves our critics to dismiss all criticism from our quarter as similarly unreliable and tainted.

          • MsPythia

            And she’s such a petty and dishonest pos that she probably hated you for that.

          • Left of Eden

            I had my share of run-ins with her. It’s a wonder i was never banned.

          • s k

            She is in the wrong party

          • MsPythia

            No, she’s in the right party NOW.

          • Edwin

            Been there. She’s not a progressive she’s a propagandist. She’ll lie through her teeth to anyone about anything.

        • panem et circenses

          They could go even further and blind themselves, then they’d never have to see any of the unpleasant “lies” reality has to throw at them.

      • Edwin

        If you include the link in your post they’ll come over to snoop on what we’re saying.

        • And we’re happy for them to know we think of them, LOL.

          • Edwin

            We welcome their lurking, prying eyes. If they stick around they might learn a few things. ^_^

          • Left of Eden

            Unlikely.

          • Well, Edwin made some comments about the blog-owner over there, and linked to the article, by said blog owner, and, by some mysterious happenstance, Edwin’s original comment, and all the follow up were flagged for moderation in Disqus, by someone. The assumption must be someone looks at the referrers to his articles, in his server log reports.

          • Edwin

            The classic–> can dish it out but can’t take it scenario. It’s OK to lie about me, to stalk me, to gaslight me, to abuse me and then use all that to falsely ban me, but say one unkind thing about them and they going into conniptions.

            In case you’ve forgotten what a mealy-mouthed so and so (douchebag) Karoli is, observe her lies
            http://crooksandliars.com/2016/05/open-thread-smart-doggie

          • MsPythia

            They’re such delicate flowers they can’t handle ANY criticism of their Neoliberal Horseshit.

  • s k

    This must be why America is the greatest country on earth, according to FLOTUS:

    Is an Arkansas Town Town Operating a “Hot Check” Court as an Illegal Debtors’ Prison?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuDnCnGaLCg

  • panem et circenses
    • MsPythia

      Spot on. But only if you buy into the idea of the hierarchy does this work, and only when you find it easy to turn a blind eye to the suffering of others. Many of us don’t — can’t.

  • Just saw this today, I can highly recommend it. No flat characters, no trope-filled story-telling, no piss-poor acting.

    “A multi-dimensional interface between a comic book artist, a novelist, and a film director. Each lives in a separate reality but authors a story about one of the others.”

  • smkngman3

    “Democratic lawmakers kept a ‘dos and don’ts’ cheat sheet for dealing with Black Lives Matter activists”

    Perry describes Black Lives Matter as “a radical movement to end “anti-black racism,” and offers a guide for politicians who may be struggling to find appropriate language when discussing the Black Lives Matter movement.

    “Do not say ‘all lives matter’ nor mention ‘black on black crime,'” Perry advises. “These are viewed as red herring attacks. This response will garner additional media scrutiny and only anger BLM activists. This is the worst response.”

    Under the subheading “Tactics,” Perry writes: “When approached by BLM activists,” do “listen to their concerns” but “don’t offer support for concrete policy positions.”

    http://www.businessinsider.com/democrats-dos-and-donts-cheat-sheet-black-lives-matter-activists-2016-9

    • MsPythia

      Those fuckers make me puke with this shit. If you needed just one perfect example to demonstrate how the Dems are the new GOP, this would be a good choice.

  • smkngman3

    Obama’s latest executive order extended a cap on pay raises for soldiers

    Obama needs that money for more Corporate tax breaks!

    Besides, you can livr off food stamps!

    For the seventh year in a row, G.I. Joe and G.I. Jane won’t be getting much of a pay raise.

    President Obama on Wednesday said he will issue an executive order putting a 1.6 percent lid on payroll increases for service members, according to a report in Military Times.

    In a letter to Congress, Obama said: “I am strongly committed to supporting our uniformed service members, who have made such great contributions to our nation over more than a decade of war.

    As our country continues to recover from serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare, however, we must maintain efforts to keep our nation on a sustainable fiscal course. This effort requires tough choices, especially in light of budget constraints.”

    http://www.businessinsider.com/obamas-latest-executive-order-extended-a-cap-on-pay-raises-for-soldiers-2016-9

    • s k

      He likes the tropics, I would love to see him retire in GITMO

    • cathyx

      Anyone who joins the military these days is a moron who doesn’t know anything about current events or what our government has been doing.

      • s k

        It’s child abuse for any parent that let’s their child join our military.

      • MsPythia

        Yes. But let’s also remember that many join because there is just no other work, and they want a steady paycheck.

        • s k

          That’s why both parties love those “free trade” treaties

          • MsPythia

            Yeah, killing the economy has been a very good substitute for the draft.

          • s k

            That POS Obama lets the federal government profit from student loans

          • MsPythia

            I know. Fucker. Fraud. I’m sorry I ever volunteered so many hours and donated so much to elect him. I am so DONE with the “Democratic” Party.

    • Edwin

      I guess he doesn’t give a shit about the trillions the Pentagon cannot account for.

    • towerofbabel

      Obscene.

    • MsPythia

      Obama is a neoliberal asshole.

    • s k

      Obama is helping out payday lenders, so they can give DWS campaign cash

      • smkngman3

        Read the “Want to understand American politics?” link above.

        It’s all theater.

  • ROFL. My mom just called me to thank me, again. for making her go do her shopping at WinCo. I’ve been trying for like a year, but she’s stubborn that way. All the way through the store, she couldn’t believe how clean it was, how nice the employees were and how low the prices. Even so, when she got to the checkout and the guy gave her the total, she actually did a double-take and said, “wait, what?!?” Then, the whole way back, she couldn’t stop talking about how much she got, for so little.

    The power of employee-owned businesses. And, hey, I got a 100-count box of Otter Pops out of it (they were 3 bucks)! LOL.

    http://thecouponproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/WincoSumner.jpg

    • MsPythia

      I love this story. You’re a good son. Enjoy your treats. 😀

    • s k

      LOL, it’s amazing how fast things add up

      • She thought, based on her experience at multiple other stores, that she’d gotten about $150 worth of stuff, but her bill was $81. That’s just WinCo, in my experience!

        • s k

          I never been to a WinCo, we don’t have them here.

          • MsPythia

            Not here either, as far as I know… I go to Costco here.

          • And @MsPythia:disqus :

            They’re an employee owned, independent chain, whose every day prices are well below the sale prices of most big Kroger’s owned conglomerates or ChinaMart. Their sale prices are absolutely astounding. The only things I’ve found I can get cheaper elsewhere (and that at a locally owned chain, for reasons that are a long story) is meat and some dairy. But even then, WinCo is only a few cents more for those products.

            And they do this all while paying employees $25 and up, and giving every employee stock in the company, which itself results in amazing customer service and cleanly, well-organized stores with accurate signage.

            You might double-check, as they move into area slowly, and a medium drive will still save you money, if you shop there. (weren’t you in Nevada, @sk?)

            http://wincofoods.com/grocery-store-finder/

    • Edwin

      I go to “Well Being Mart”. This is not the one in my neighbourhood, but similar. They have fresh fruit and veg (plus other basics, like seaweed and dried squid and Cheerios. ^_-)

      https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e15/12269828_149461792077436_2002766354_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTEyNjU5MTI2MTM0ODc2NzgxNA%3D%3D.2

      • Unfortunately, Phoenix is the land of the heap-big suburb, and those kind of small urban stores basically don’t exist there. I loved them when I was living in NYC though.

        • Edwin

          That’s all Korea had when I got here; Mom and Pop shops. I loved it. You could run in and get your watch battery changed, on the spot, in front of your eyes, in about 1 minute, for $1. Every place was like that. You can go in and buy 2 screws from a bin. Hardware stores are full of crates of stuff from the factory and sold by the piece (not a pack of 25 assorted washers, you can buy the one you need for 15 cents.)

          The big box stores have been moving in, as well as the franchises. The Mom and Pop stores are dropping like flies. My local neighbourhood used to have many, but most of them are gone now.

          There were 2 little bakeries here. Then a “bakery” chain moved in and they both went under. The chain is way over-priced, over-packaged, from a factory, glitzy baking.

        • Edwin

          When I’m back in Canada I call the grocery store the amusement park. It’s like going to Disneyland these days.

  • Mmm, sugary, bad-for-me, goodness… Diabetes, here I come! 😉

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      They still make those?

    • SmotPoker

      Mama sure does spoil her baby….

      I miss that from my mom. She’d always have some thing or another she picked up for me on a whim.

  • smkngman3

    “Want to understand American politics? Watch Monday Night Raw.”

    Republican Party (with whom the Corporate Ministry is not such a bad comparison, either). It never keeps its word, implementing pro-business neoliberal policies and undermining workers’ bargaining power at every turn.

    And yet it purports to be the working class’s champion. More than that, its status as pro-labor is presented as a feature of the party’s being, as if it were an intractable physical quality.

    It is easy to think of Democratic Party doublespeak as dishonest. Doing so allows for the possibility that dishonesty can be countered by the truth (“If people just held the party to its word . . . ”). But what characterizes the Democratic Party’s (as well as the Republicans’) position is a commitment to fiction, not falsehood.

    Fiction and falsehood are distinct concepts. A lie, revealed for the deception that it is, leads to a rejection of the principles upon which it was based. A fiction, by contrast, is not broken by the discovery that it is not real. It can still act as the bearer of the hopes and fantasies of those who believe in it.

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/09/wwe-john-mcmahon-trump-clinton-smackdown-raw/

    • MsPythia

      I love you Smokey. You always bring us the best stuff. <3

      • smkngman3

        This IS a good one!

        • MsPythia

          I love Jacobinmag.com!

    • This is why we use the word “Kayfabe”

  • s k

    Good night, have fun, Dark Matter starts in a few minutes

    • smkngman3

      Later sk!

    • MsPythia

      SK <3

    • Already downloading it! 😀

      • SmotPoker

        I would too if it weren’t for my notorious bad luck. I don’t want to be the guy that goes to prison for 10 years because I downloaded a stupid Adam Sandler movie or other drivel that Hollywood shits out these days.

        Authors note: I would never download a Sandler movie. His films are such drek. He hasn’t done shit worth watching let alone “stealing” for years now. Early on he had a couple of decent flicks, but it’s been a steady ride downhill since getting his ass beat by Bob Barker….

        • That shit doesn’t happen. That’s just a fear instilled by well-paid propagandists for the media companies. Downloading music or movies is not a criminal offense.

          The worst that could happen is you’d get sued for recovery. But, if you want to avoid even that small possibility, just get a VPN. (you should have one anyways, in these times)

          • SmotPoker

            I allegedly had my own server that I would run it through. I allegedly had access to many fine private trackers with awesome drop times. You know the rules though, I can’t/won’t post the names of them here even though it’s been a while some are as popular, and thriving as ever.

            i also remember a few years back they went after some woman in Oklahoma I think or something like that, and she got hit with some serious finage. For me it’s all just best avoided, I don’t need to fuck around, and dare fate to fuck with me.

    • Edwin

      Good night.

  • smkngman3
  • smkngman3
    • panem et circenses

      For someone with such a guarded and carefully crafted public image, she ends up saying a lot of things that display zero self-awareness.

      • smkngman3

        You weren’t supposed to notice.

      • SpiffyTheValiant

        The funniest one was, “Vote your conscience.”

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          I am and always do 🙂

  • smkngman3
    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      Yet she’s doing a bang up job of getting people to dislike her lol.

    • Blue Basilisk

      He’ll have to work his ass off to lose this election. She’s blowing holes in her own ship much faster than he can.

  • smkngman3

    “CIA Abuses “Journalist” Cover To Spy On Al-Qaeda – Media Acquiesce – Endanger Real Journos”

    The State Department “can’t speak of” what Snell did in Syria – twice. Why? Is that secret? Note that Kirby does not even call that “U.S. citizen” a “journalist”, even while his keyword provider calls her such.

    Despite the reluctance of the State Department to call Snell a journalist the main stream “western” media, picking up from the State briefing, now calls her such and does not mention that Snell is obviously a spy. The BBC, CBS and NBC have reports of the issue. But none of those reports touches on the very weird circumstance of Lindsey Snell’s “rescue” and “arrest”. None of them will tell you you that she was a spy.

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/09/cia-abuses-journalist-cover-to-spy-on-al-qaeda-media-acquiesce-endanger-real-journos.html

  • Chunga

    Dudes and Dudettes, your local DJ’s are spinning some good stuff over on 17’s music thread. It’s a gas, man !!

    • Edwin

      I don’t really fit into either of those categories. I’m more of a Duderini, or even a Dudemeister. ^_-

      • Chunga

        It’s all inclusive in my book, all flavors in between. 😊

  • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

    Bah, just left Bellingham and the dining car is finally empty enough to find a seat. Stupid wifi is only strong enough here. I wonder how long it’ll last, don’t think it goes past the border.

    • Edwin

      Hiya, Toad. I guess you’re on a train (?).

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        Yep, in White Rock now just passed the peace arch.

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        Disqus is having a really hard time loading with the crappy wifi.

        • Edwin

          I wouldn’t know about that because I live in Korea. Every nook and cranny has good WiFi. ^_-

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            They use a crappy cellular modem, surprised it’s still going they usually cut it off at the border.

            And 😛 you bastich lol.

          • Edwin

            I think it’s even universal and free in the subway.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Quit rubbing it in 😛

          • Edwin

            ^.^

          • America sucks, in more ways then one.

    • Chunga

      That’s a lovely view out the window.

  • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

    Reading Madame Spiffy’s fanfic. Stupid wifi, supposed to arrive in about an hour. Moving really slow, damn Canadians not maintaining their rail properly.

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      🙂 thanks for reading.

      • SmotPoker

        Didn’t know you did such a thing. Please tell me it’s not Twilight fan fic….

  • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

    So is everyone hanging out at the music thread? Don’t really listen to music so just hanging out here.

    • SpiffyTheValiant

      <3 Hey, Toad.

      • Hey Spiffy :^)

        • SpiffyTheValiant

          <3 hai

          • What have you been doing?

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            ^^ meh stories. you?

          • Working & sleeping. Every time I layed on the couch, I fell asleep :^)

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            lmao i need that couch.

          • No hon. That’s age ;^)

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            oh lol

          • If you really are having problems sleeping.

            I recommend eating pumpkin seeds a few hours before bed, to my daughter who has issues with sleeping a full night.

            When I’m out of town on business, I’ll just take melatonin so I can relax to get to sleep.

          • SpiffyTheValiant

            cool 🙂

          • SmotPoker

            I tried pumpkin seeds, but I couldn’t keep the bowl lit, so I just stick with my cannabis. Best sleep aid ever.

          • You’re supposed to eat it, babe ;^)

          • SmotPoker

            Thank the Sky Fairy! What little I could keep lit tasted like shit….

          • :^) lol

    • 17

      You’re missin’ good times.

    • Hello toad :^)

  • 17

    ..

  • RTIII

    So, I have a great opossum tail to tell but haven’t the time now. BIG DEAL gathering tomorrow I am still cleaning up for! 🙂

    Catch yallz on the morrow – or maybe two or three days after that, as it’s a VERY busy weekend! 🙂

    Hope everyone has a great time these next several days! 🙂

  • Edwin

    977 comments

    No one posted at the kids’ site today. Hmmm. Very curious. OV goes AWOL. Guess that crown contest gets pushed back yet again. :/

  • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

    Sorry I missed everyone, lost my signal and then just hanging out with my friends here.

    Goodnight 😃

    • Edwin

      Good night, D.

  • RTIII

    OK, I NEED SOME HELP! Please!

    I am going to have a VERY short night tonight. I have a VERY important day happening tomorrow, and it starts VERY early, and I’ve worked late to prepare! I have to get up in about 4.5 hours from now!

    Trouble is, I NORMALLY don’t need any device to WAKE UP, but on a short night like tonight I may well need it – working late, must be up early – yet BOTH my normal devices to help are DEAD AS DOORNAILS! … The ONE device, my usual bed-side clock, has come up dead! But ALSO, my cell phone (that’s actually my primary device for such things these days) had its display break this evening! …SO, while it “works” I cannot give it any commands!

    So, what I’m thinking is: if someone can call me, that can serve as an “alarm clock!” 🙂

    I will not be able to answer, but that’s OK!

    It’s ALSO OK if five, or fifteen (!!) of you call – better I get up on time than not! So DO NOT WORRY!… If you can call me in the right time range, please do!

    I WOULD LIKE to be up by 6AM PACIFIC (GMT – 8 hours) but MUST be up by 8AM PACIFIC!

    If you can call me at least once – twice can’t hurt! – between these hours, that would be appreciated! … I won’t be able to answer, but the phone should ring and that’s enough!

    The number is: 510-717-6942

    Thank you,
    Richard

  • Shohanna

    Wow guess I am by myself. Ah well, such is life. Miss you guys. lol I will be quite busy because Legion dropped and I am having more fun then I have had in 10 yrs. O.O never expected that!! HAHAHA

    But I will be around. 😀

    MORNING!! <3

    Meet my Main! 😀

    • RTIII

      NOPE! I just posted too! 🙂

      • Shohanna

        Good moring RT! How are you?

        • RTIII

          GOOD EVENING! 🙂 … I’m fine, BUT, please read my post below! 🙂

          • Shohanna

            Above for me, so what time is it there? Its 4:42am here

          • RTIII

            1:43 AM here! 🙂

          • Shohanna

            Oki so you need me to wake you up in about 4 hours correct?

          • RTIII

            Yes, about that… 4 hours 15 minutes would be my target – 6AM Pacific! 🙂

          • Shohanna

            Oki Alarm set for 8:15AM my time. 😀

          • Shohanna

            Also, take that number down hon, you don’t want that to stay out there.

          • RTIII

            THANK YOU! 😀

            You can call twice if you like! … But I don’t expect I can answer – the screen on the phone is broken. 🙁

            YES, OK, will edit out the number! 🙂

          • Shohanna

            Sure thing, I will call til you hang up on me. Alright?

          • RTIII

            … How about you call until I respond here on the latest page?

            I’m pretty sure I won’t be able to pick up the phone. 🙁 BUT, if you give me 5 minutes or so between calls, I can get my ass up and to the computer and post HERE! YAY! 🙂

            Sound like a plan?

          • Shohanna

            Oh sure that sounds good. I was wondering, cause the phone is broken. I am like Duh he can’t answer. LOL

          • RTIII

            THANK YOU! Looking for your ring in around 4 hours! 🙂

            Now, I’d better get to bed!

          • Shohanna

            Oki Night sweetie!!

          • SmotPoker

            Get the fuck up, and outta of bed.

          • Shohanna

            I am not sleeping? I am wide awake and have been for 4 hours now, Where you been sleepy head?!

          • SmotPoker

            I’ve been up, and fucking around since around 5. Doing exactly fuck all since I can’t really vacuum or anything at that time of the morning….

          • Shohanna

            I love living a lone. If I want to vacuum and clean at 4am I can. 😀 My neighbors may not approve but so far no one has complained about my night time shenanigans. LOL

          • RTIII

            You’re 45 minutes early and I need the sleep!

          • Shohanna

            Oki Oki I wait. LOL

          • SmotPoker

            Not even internet married for 24 hours and you’re already stepping out on me?

          • Shohanna

            ROFLMAO!! No, RT asked for a wake up call. I happen to be awake and told him I could do it. He didn’t even answer the phone! /pout If you are going to accuse me of stepping out, I would of liked to get some kind of action for it to be classified as that. /nod.

          • SmotPoker

            Believe it or not, I considered trying to hit you up when I was in KY, but thought it might come off as a bit creepy…

          • Shohanna

            You said that before. I honestly wondered if you would. I knew you were heading in my direction. I wouldn’t have seen it as creepy! lol

            Hey I need some info if I am going to plan a trip to you. You know like info?! Yeah, I can’t plan without it. I have to know where I am going, what hotels are available, food, where the hospitals / care stations are, gas stations, and that along the way. So I can save up for the trip. (No I am not as rich as I sometimes come off as, AS if.. gah, I have to save like everyone else.)

            So how you want to do it?

    • Here’w what a raid-ready Runekeeper (a type of magic-user) looks like, in LoTRO…

      • Shohanna

        Why ruin the pic with all the gear laid out?! O.o Nice toon though.

        • Because, raiders are interested in how a character performs, its stats. I got plenty of gloopy tourist pics. LOL.

          • Shohanna

            I use to be a hard core raider. I got tired of the stupid drama. So I am hard core casual. 😀

    • RTIII

      You are 45 minutess early! I need the sleep!

    • RTIII

      OK, I’m up, thank you. 🙂

      • Shohanna

        Most welcome. I was reading on another page. LOL

  • Shohanna

    Tell your kids not to give hickeys!! O.O

    http://www.local10.com/news/weird-news/teen-dies-from-hickey

    • Edwin

      Does that mean I should stop giving them too?

      • notisaidthepig

        You ARE funny.

        • Edwin

          ^.^

      • Shohanna

        You should be aware of what they can do if you put it in the wrong spot on the neck. I would keep them off the jugular vein.

    • RTIII

      WAY back in the day, we used to give each other hickies all the damned time!

      This has to be _extremely_ rare! It MIGHT even be that the doctors are just fucking wrong about the cause of these problems people have had! They are SPECULATING! I mean, where are the scientific studies? Statistical analysies? … So far they have an unsubstantiated theory!

  • cathyx

    Good Morning. I’ve got nothing else, slow news morning I guess.

    • Shohanna

      Morning Cathyx!

      • cathyx

        Morning. You got RT up too early? He’s going to be a grump all day now, you know.

        Edit to add: RT— Just kidding

        • Shohanna

          Well, he is the one who told me 4 hours instead of 5.. hahah Ah well, I am calling him now btw.

          • RTIII

            HEY! I got MY math right, wasn’t MY screw up! 🙂

            Glad to not be late, but REALLY didn’t need my deep sleep interrupted.

            Can’t do anything about it now…

          • Shohanna

            Hahaha I asked YOU! 4 hours.. **pout**

          • RTIII

            1:45 AM to 6AM: 4 hours 15 minutes. You called roughly an hour early.

          • Shohanna

            Bah,I counted from 4:45am. =p

          • RTIII

            If you’d told me what time zone you were in – instead of telling me whatever it was for YOUR time zone – I’d have replied with the correct time in YOUR time zone! -shrug- No going back now. . . . I’m suffering from not enough REM sleep, but I’ll live. Better this than to over sleep, so I’m still glad you were willing to help! (((hugs)))

          • cathyx

            If you just relied on an alarm clock, this wouldn’t have been a problem. 😉

          • Shohanna

            ((hugs)) sorry I suck at time zones when I just wake up. LOL It’s my fault, sorry!

          • Shohanna

            I counted to 8:15 am. from 4:45am. I was 45 minutes early. =p

  • notisaidthepig

    Good morning.

    • cathyx

      Oink!

      • notisaidthepig

        Hi there, early riser! 😉

    • Shohanna

      Good Morning Noti!!

      • notisaidthepig

        Hi, Sho! Hope you are doing well today.

        • Shohanna

          Much better now. Thank ya!! <3

          • notisaidthepig

            Yellow blue tibia!

    • s k

      Morning noti, have you seen this?
      Truthdig Interview w Jill Stein:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t755ES9JFWs

      • notisaidthepig

        Hey, good morning! No, I have not seen that. Been crazy busy this week with the first week of classes. I’ll check it out this morning as I clean house. Thanks!

      • towerofbabel

        She is so much more articulate than Bernie.

  • SmotPoker

    I see that Oklahoma got rocked with a 5.6 magnitude earthquake this morning. Hell of a wake up call eh?

    • Shohanna

      OH wow, didn’t see that! Morning Smot!

    • notisaidthepig

      Is that related to fracking at all? I never think of OK as earthquake country.

      • RTIII

        Of course it is. The OK branch of the geological … um – no coffee yet … already said so about all their quakes of late.

        • notisaidthepig

          Thanks, RT. I thought I remembered that but just wanted to be sure about my outrage. Oink!

          • Edwin

            I too am Outraged. Outraged!!

      • SmotPoker

        Can’t quote you the exact percentage, but the increase in earthquakes in OK since fracking became a thing is something like 300% or more so…..

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        They’re trying to push for restrictions on it.

    • RTIII

      That’s not big enough to do much damage; they fucking deserve worse. The assholes in Omaha need to lose some houses so they get it what fucking damage they are doing.

      Same goes all across very much of the nation!

      STOP THE FUCKING FRACKING!

      The damage to our water supplies is IRREPARABLE!

    • s k

      Fracking idiots

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        Yep.

  • SmotPoker

    Don’t fuck with Amy Schuler. She’ll call your ass out, ridicule you, then throw your ass out to the parking lot.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCZceDUx4bQ

    • Shohanna
      • panem et circenses

        Never cared for her much, or Lena Dunham. They’re opportunists pretending to be feminists, and have gotten wealthy doing it. When they talk “off the cuff” you see how nasty they really are.

        https://bitchmedia.org/article/cool-girls-talking-six-most-painful-quotes-lena-dunham%E2%80%99s-amy-schumer-interview

        • Shohanna

          THANK YOU!! That’s the impression I got from both of them. From the comedy they both do! “Girls” was interesting at first, but then it turned to shit every time I turned around. I couldn’t watch it past the 3 rd season.

          And I have seen a lot of clips of Amy, and … I haven never laughed once at anything she said mostly because I could tell it was fake. :/ I thought I was the only one. I felt bad about it. I am like her comedy isn’t funny from my stand point. There is a type of understanding you gain from being a feminist. Thinking of others and understanding the paths that each of us walk and she has not walked it. Neither has Lena, and I am just sick of fake, feminists. Who apologize for the hateful people that still don’t understand why talking a certain way shows you aren’t genuine.

          Does that make sense?

          • panem et circenses

            There’s a hypocrisy in liberal “feminism”, mainly among privileged white feminists. Making apologies for their own behavior that they’d never forgive in others. That tendency toward alienation of the other combined with in-group hyper-defensiveness destroys any logical coherence.

      • SmotPoker

        Yikes.

  • Edwin

    Whoa-Nelly!!! Big event horizon. Ricki might self-drunk-post herself into a crown.

    989 comments …(in a mere 21 days) ^_-

    http://thebannedroom.tumblr.com/post/148702423272/from-here-on-forward

    • cathyx

      Everybody get their trigger fingers ready.

      • Edwin

        I can’t post there. I was one of the first few banned from the banned room.

        • cathyx

          Me neither, and i always hated that game anyway, lol.

          • Edwin

            It was fun in the beginning, but then it got to be too much of a to do. I think if we hadn’t all been banned we’d be sick to death of it by now.

            I wonder if they will do a crown as they have codified the rules in a thread already, ignore it, or put up a new thread right about now.

    • RTIII

      Except that she’ll blow it and NOT say:

      1000

      And be DQed!

      Oh, but wait, they don’t actually count the ones not trying, so ANY subsequent post – the NEXT subsequent post – no matter how much later, gets the crown!

      AAAAAAAAAAAAAhahaha, that’s so fucking stupid!

      • Edwin

        Didn’t you get banned for that? Aren’t you the reason they had to codify the rules in that weird thread they made after they gaslighted, abused and banned me?

        • RTIII

          Something sorta like that…

          Actually, the sockpuppet threatened me with banning and I just left.

          Later, they banned me for posting here, apparently.

          But yeah, I was really pissed off the Ricki came to the Chatzy chat room where I was relaxing with friends and left me a turd sandwich listing rules I’d never heard of and that they refused to share in public. It was ridiculous.

          • Edwin

            She’s a psycho. They’re both psychos. (All of them are psychos.)

  • s k

    The drone king has lost his mind.

    “Part of what I’ve tried to communicate to President Xi is that the United States arrives at its power, in part, by restraining itself,” Obama told CNN presenter Fareed Zakaria.

    “If you sign a treaty that calls for international arbitration around maritime issues, the fact that you’re bigger than the Philippines or Vietnam or other countries … is not a reason for you to go around and flex your muscles,” Obama added, according to Reuters. “You’ve got to abide by international law.”…..https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/03/g20-obama-warns-beijing-against-south-china-sea-aggression

    • Edwin

      what a fucking douchebag

      • s k

        He is delusional

        • Edwin

          He’s a professional liar.

    • RTIII

      Remarkable.

      Wish I had adequate words, but I’m still BC. (before coffee)

      • s k

        Just waking up myself.

  • Shohanna

    Be glad that you aren’t relegated to living like these beings. I thought it was quite interesting. Er don’t ask where I got the link. It’s embarrassing enough.

    http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/09/bizarre-ant-colony-discovered-in-an-abandoned-polish-nuclear-weapons-bunker/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      I read that one, freaked me out.

  • 17

    ..

  • Edwin

    Good night. See you tomorrow.

    • Shohanna

      Night night Edwin! Sweet Dreams~

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      Take care.

  • Shohanna

    Haha if you are forced to go to the ER for some stupid shit you have done to yourself. It’s best not to lie about it. They WILL find out eventually and then you really will be embarrassed. When they post your predicament on the net. LOL

    http://observer.com/2016/09/11-doctors-reveal-the-weirdest-issues-patients-tried-to-hide-from-them/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ta

    • RTIII

      The one idiot probably didn’t know what the word “urine” means – probably thinks the right word is piss.

      Never heard of “pool noodle” – wondering if I should google it or not?

      The turtle thing is just weird, but I’m from New orleans and I’ve heard of various voodoo things, so this one doesn’t surprise me too much…

      But anyone who ignores an infection so long that their PENIS gets INVERTED deserves to lose it all; what a dumb-fuck.

      • Shohanna

        Yeah pool noodles are safe, they are toys kids play with in the pool, various colors and usually about 5 to 6 ft long and about 3″ to 5″ in diameter.

      • SmotPoker

        It’s just a long floating pool toy. It’s exactly what it sounds like.

    • SmotPoker

      They got to be careful not to violate the HIPPA laws when they do that….

      • 17

        HIPPA laws…..There’s a joke.

        • SmotPoker

          They are until you fuck up, and get caught in a violation of one. My kid works in healthcare, and she’s always careful to not overshare when she is telling me a story about work.

          • 17

            Mrs 17 is in eye care.

      • Shohanna

        Personally, they are violating it even if they don’t mention a name. Someone on Fark.com posted that it was HIM in one of those telling and I couldn’t believe it.

        Some of them are unique enough that you could pick them out of a huge crowd so even if you don’t mention names and stuff the uniqueness of the case is enough to know they have been “tattled” on. That’s against HIPPA.

  • 17

    Edwin….Ricki’s talking to ya!!!!

    • RTIII

      He’s gone to bed already.

      • 17

        You got honorable mention as well.

      • cathyx

        That’s too bad, he would have loved to have seen this. It would have given him sweet dreams.

    • SmotPoker

      I escaped unscathed. You guys must have really pissed the poor dear off but good.

      She’s had it rough, and her attitude is only making life worse for her. I wish she would seek professional help. I think the best thing in the world for her right now would be to just let it go. Get offline for a bit, enjoy life rather than sucking on the bitter fruit of what went down at TBR.

  • 17

    Hey Neb…..somebody needs a “comfort” fuck. Go grock Spock.

  • RTIII

    OK, enough coffee time – time for bath, dress and get on with my day!

    MAY lurk a little as I get going… maybe!

    • RTIII

      My first guest (for my businesses “open house”) – AND a paying customer! – has already arrived! Early! 🙂

      Back MAYBE this afternoon, or then tomorrow afternoon! 🙂

      Yall have fun! 🙂

  • 17
  • 17

    I got screwed out of my rightful crown. 🙁

  • SmotPoker

    Oh my, this piece of shit pastor is something to behold. This is the same idiot that posted Hillary in black face. I’m no fan of Hillary at all, but that was beyond the pale even for a Christofascist.

    Lies about having a college degree. He lied about military service. He lied about his claim that the church server was “hacked” by someone else that posted those lies about his background.

    He gets enraged when questioned about his background with cries that he didn’t agree to this, and it was supposed to be an “off the record” interview with television cameras all around him.

    “This is not fair at all,” Burns replied. “I thought we were doing a profile and all of a sudden you’re here to try to destroy my character.” Take note that this interview was conducted by a black man, Victor Blackwell.

    He deflects his lying about his background because “he was young, and wanted to be taken seriously”.

    The good pastor Burns released a statement saying he had “overstated some details” (LIED) in his biography because, as a young man, he wanted to be taken seriously as a pastor starting up his new church in Greenville, South Carolina

    Hey asshole, everyone wants to be taken seriously. Decent people put in the work at college to become “experts” in their chosen field. They studied their asses off, they paid ridiculous credit fees, and went into debt to achieve that credibility that you in your lazy ass way tried to claim through lies. Fuck you. You’re a lying piece of shit conman. Full stop..

    In his statement, Burns also said he was under attack because “I am a black man supporting Donald Trump for president.”

    No dipshit, you’re being called out for being a lying, conniving, piece of shit with the credibility of dried up dogshit. It’s just a coincidence that you happen to support Trump. You were happy to step into the spotlight to get your moment of fame, but failed to take into consideration that the thinking people among us would do the research on your horse shit.

    I dare say you flew a bit too close to the sun with all that bullshit you were carrying around with you Copernicus…

    Fraud Exposed, And It’s Wonderful To Watch

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NykDfc_zvVE

  • 17

    Just say the word, Ricki. I can have that thing put back together in under 5 minutes.

  • SmotPoker

    Oh goodness gracious. I wish I would have remembered that he was doing his dog, and pony show today nearby. I’d have join that awesome crowd of sanity outside the church. Can’t wait to see where it all goes sideways for him. Live feed..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtQrxrs70X4

  • 17

    The Woodshed’s been rebuilt at Ricki’s request.

    • Nancy

      has she ever been there 17?

      • 17

        Yes. She shot her mouth off there and I banned her. Now I’ve un-banned her and am waiting for her to come and shoot herself in the other foot. Then I’ll ban her again.

  • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

    G’morning

    • 17

      Good afternoon, Toad 😉

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        Hola señor 😊

    • Nancy

      Daniel!

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        Hugs Nancy.

        • Nancy

          hey! happy long weekend!

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            I suppose, in Van though I do wish I had my bed here, stupid back.

          • Nancy

            oh I hope you aren’t away from it for too long then. that’s too bad.
            is this to do with that woman that is giving you trouble?

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            No, a friend was bugging me about doing something for my birthday and this was the closest to it that we both had free time.

            My back is just going through its recovery process after I lose control of my legs.

          • Nancy

            ugh…sorry to hear that!
            good you are there for fun! now I can publicly wish you a Happy Belated Birthday!

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            😄 thanks

          • Nancy

            😉
            you are so welcome!

    • Edwin

      Hi, Daniel. That looks very nice. So lush and green and near the water.

  • Nancy

    so yes, for the record…17 has said some things that I found creepy.
    many people have-including me, and that’s part of blogging on the internet.
    some people I will never feel close to or agree with them-that doesn’t mean I won’t engage with them or have conversations while on a thread.
    that clear things up?

    • 17

      No need to explain, Nancy. We’ve all hashed that out before. Just let her rant. But I’d really, really like to see those logs of hers. Wonder what’s taking so long? Perhaps it’s hard to make the timestamps match?

      • Nancy

        there are no words…seriously.

        • 17

          Screenshots, baby! Screenshots!

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Documenting teh kray kray?

          • 17

            No. I’ve got 4 copies of the past kray. I think I’m covered.

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Be careful there, don’t want to catch it 🙃

          • Nancy

            it’s all very sad actually. regardless of what she says or does-she needs to remember that she is the person that is keeping it going. why would a person do that? almost a month has gone by and we have move on…
            wtf is the point of this insanity?

          • 17

            This is exactly what she did the last time I pulled down the shed….she waited 3 days and then went ballistic. She needs attention, and apparently Neb ain’t givin’ it to her hard enough.

          • Nancy

            funny how on one hand she values and expects loyalty and confidence in her exchanges and yet is so willing to “expose” people she has had conversations with.
            this is beyond petty and childish…it’s insane to behave like this.
            no one gives a shit-it’s the internet-get a new identity and move on. seriously. no one really cares-no one knows her in real life…move on.

          • Dosido3

            Projection. Lots of it.

          • Nancy

            yes.

          • Edwin

            She’s a fucking whackjob.

            I wonder how many bottles she polished off before this screed.

          • Nancy

            even though it’s my turn-I still feel sad for that depth of damage.

          • Edwin

            I don’t feel sorry for her. She should get off the internet. She won’t though because she thrives on this shit– toying with others. No pity for her, she loves it.

            If she wanted to get well she’d seek help and stay off the internet– doctor’s orders.

          • Nancy

            I agree with everything you have said Edwin. I am sad because it will probably not happen. such a waste.

          • Edwin

            I didn’t really know her. She showed up at C&L near the end and very quickly I was her good friend and she was demanding fucking loyalty from me. Then she turned on me in a flash and went deranged-fucked-up on my ass, with Neb. Fuck her, Fuck them. I want nothing to do with her/them. There are plenty of people in the world with problems but they don’t do what she did. Fuck her. Fuck them. No sympathy. They are fucking assholes.

          • Nancy

            you were treated very badly. many others were as well. such damage caused.

          • cathyx

            I guess I”m the only one enjoying the show. Yes, i need to get a life, lol.

          • Edwin

            LOL. It’s amusing. I look in.

          • cathyx

            For me it’s the schadenfreude. I watched for a long time as everyone fawned over her, knowing what at whack job she actually was. Now i have the satisfaction of her finally being found out.

          • Edwin

            See, I didn’t know them at all. Ricki showed up at C&L just before I got banned. I didn’t know her; she was a new commenter. I knew NOTHING about her.

            Then I got banned and she invited me to TBR. I had never heard of, or met, Neb until I got to TBR. I thought, well, these two seem nice.

            Big mistake!

          • cathyx

            I didn’t know you either, before TBR, but everyone else did.

          • Edwin

            The people from C&L knew me because I posted there pretty much every day for 8~9 years. I pretty much never posted at other blogs.

            My cheerleaders are devotees from C&L. (They’re also a joke because Karoli dissed my cheerleaders right as she banned me. Something about they can fuck off too.)

            Here we go (the douchebag). This is when she was gaslighting me and LYING. Karoli can be very abusive: http://crooksandliars.com/2016/05/open-thread-smart-doggie#comment-2701000719

          • Edwin

            As far as I’m concerned her accusations amounted to a big nothingburger.

          • cathyx

            You score a point for using the word.

          • Edwin

            ^.^

          • cathyx

            I’m waiting for an opportunity on the current thread. If i can use it, then i get 2 points.

          • Edwin

            Are you starting a blog game?

          • cathyx

            I think so, and i now have 2 points to your one.

          • Edwin

            You really think you can out nothingburger me?

            (point btw)

          • cathyx

            First of all, this thread doesn’t count anymore, it’s kinda closed. And second, yes, i think i can.

          • Edwin

            All threads count. ^_^

            What about poor Unka??!

          • cathyx

            I’m still you by two, either way.

          • Edwin

            I think we should save nothingburger for a ‘rare’ and ‘unexpected’ treat, instead of driving everyone crazy. ^_^

          • cathyx

            ok. But we will start anew.

          • Nancy

            lol, why-whatever works for you cathy!

          • Edwin

            I am fine and will be fine. We all will.

            Don’t fucking cross me for no good goddamed reason. Ricki and Neb planned this shit out in advance. Its not a disagreement. I don’t forgive and I don’t forget.

          • Nancy

            it sure seems to be fucked up from the get go.
            no clue why people would do that.
            lol, I have no intention of ever crossing you Edwin! 😉

          • Edwin

            Really, I’m a pussycat; a mild-mannered gentleman.

            I just don’t care for these predatory types like Karoli and Ricki.

          • Nancy

            no one should ever take what they, and people like them, dish out.

          • Edwin

            Tell me to fuck off or whatever, but don’t play your dirty tricks with your upper-hand “mod” status. It’s unfair because the “mod” can manipulate things/comments and then ban you, as did Ricki and Karoli because they are lying douchebag-scumbag-asswipes

          • Nancy

            that’s the worst part of it-not a fair or level playing field. they have to play dirty. I have no time or respect for that.

          • Edwin

            That’s how Karoli gaslighted me. She said I attacked Smelley pee personally. I was quite sure I hadn’t because I didn’t attack the writers at C&L as a rule. But I thought what if I said something… unusual/off colour… Anyway, I asked about that and she said she had already deleted “the offending comments” (which never existed– the gaslighting). Then she banned me, based on comments she had just deleted and no one could ever see.

            See how that works?

          • Nancy

            I am so glad that I was there and watched it happen-it would be really difficult to believe that she did that had I not seen it myself.
            she is a huge liar and played like a Hillbot/republican does.
            vile bitch.

          • Edwin

            change the ‘s’ in her last name to ‘t’ and that sums it up

          • Nancy

            yup.

          • Edwin

            vile bitch works too

            ^_^

    • Edwin

      Oh, my! Yeah, went over to have a look. Guess the crowns contests are OVER. That kinda sucks. I was looking forward… (imagine just yanking the rug out from under everyone at 999. Seems un-Christian!!)

      • Nancy

        she needs to let it go and move on-get a new identity and start over.
        it’s the internet-shit happens and then we re-group and move on!

        • Edwin

          I still take the time to bitch and moan and disparage (e.g., Karoli), but really I’ve moved on. ^_^

          • Nancy

            lol. there is a huge difference in how you are handling what she did to you.

  • SmotPoker

    Sniff……Read the comment and replies: http://disq.us/p/1bjh1sw

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/8-4-million-americans-smoke-weed-everyday/comments/#disqus

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl_NpdAy3WY

    Wish I could tell some of them how much I miss them too. I made a fuckton of comments on that site until it went crazy this election season, and started banning people left, and right.

    • (((ilyas252)))

      sad to see you go.

  • all_hail_the_hypno_toad
    • Nancy

      so humbling…

  • Nancy

    some kitty humour…

    • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

      Lol

    • Hello Nancy :^) When I first read that I thought I read some kinky humor, LOL.

      • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

        Hi Stephanie.

      • Nancy

        ;-O
        morning!

        • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

          Quit yawning, you’re making me sleepy 😉

          • Nancy

            hahaha…that was “shocked face”

          • all_hail_the_hypno_toad

            Oh o.o

          • Nancy

            😉

        • Good to see you !

          • Nancy

            you as well! long weekend plans?

          • None, blissfully peaceful. Yourself?

          • Nancy

            chill and more chill. perfect!

    • Edwin

      One time (back in Canada) I put a turkey in the kitchen sink to start defrosting it and my cat ate a hole in the back of it– left a crater.

      • Nancy

        HAHAHAHAHA
        little bugger.

        • Edwin

          My partner and I decided the cooking would kill any germs and served it to a bunch of guests that night. Everyone had a good laugh at the crater.

          It was pretty funny, all of it. I caught him committing the crime- eating the crater. He looked all guilty and bolted off. I think he knew it wasn’t kitty food.

          • Nancy

            good he wasn’t sick.
            somehow I am not surprised that you went ahead and cooked it! lol…I would have too.
            got your reply re school yesterday. that sucks, sorry to hear that.

          • Edwin

            I used to have a really good thing going here. Long vacations; summer (5 weeks) and winter (10 weeks) and I did lots of travel. The school board made us go to school even when we didn’t have classes. Now it’s just another job.

            At the private schools I didn’t get paid during vacation, but I didn’t care because I had the time off!! I’m not about the money.

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